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Your self denial is understandable... Bought at the peak at 17xx psf in OCR, the URA index has headed downhill, Lakefront rental demand has fallen, Lakeville sales volume has stagnant, a EC that is 100% cheaper, for sake of your sanity, better to be in the state of self denial that to admit to be carrothead
Anyone with the slightest common sense will know that its impossible for a troll like you to know what i own what I bought and how much I pay for it.
All you are capable of doing in this forum is to make up silly self fulfilling stories to entertain yourself.
Like I said before,
troll will always be troll,
they come and they go.
Someone must be really desperate to believe is some dumb review posted by someone who obviously try to run down the project....BEWARE..dont follow the sheeps in circles.
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I remember you recommend lakeville to some readers, I see not reason why you want to do so, is there any connection between u and the developer? Don't tell me you are indirectly doing some promotion outside the showroom.
I remember you recommend lakeville to some readers, I see not reason why you want to do so, is there any connection between u and the developer? Don't tell me you are indirectly doing some promotion outside the showroom.
You pretend you are gateway buyer then set up a thread telling others to beware, I see you are setting up gateway and make people believe you are carrothead, on the other hand you've been promoting by praising other jld project. There is a motive doing all these. You had personal gain for stirring things up, Stop playing rat and mouse game. Gateway owner its time to wake up. You had an imposter, the person turn your homeland into a fighting ground.
I remember you recommend lakeville to some readers, I see not reason why you want to do so, is there any connection between u and the developer? Don't tell me you are indirectly doing some promotion outside the showroom.
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
This man is an imposter, he turned gateway upside down.
Dont want to waste my time
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
Dont want to waste my time
You are exposed.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
you can come back with a new account.
you can come back with a new account.
Btw,will your boss fired you for such a bad act?
You pretend you are gateway buyer then set up a thread telling others to beware, I see you are setting up gateway and make people believe you are carrothead, on the other hand you've been promoting by praising other jld project. There is a motive doing all these. You had personal gain for stirring things up, Stop playing rat and mouse game. Gateway owner its time to wake up. You had an imposter, the person turn your homeland into a fighting ground.
IMHO, I think many westie don't care whether he is an imposter or not so long he promote and talk good about JLD with data :banana:...rather than those that talk bad and not westie some more...:banghead:.!
IMHO, I think many westie don't care whether he is an imposter or not so long he promote and talk good about JLD with data :banana:...rather than those that talk bad and not westie some more...:banghead:.!
you can serve him as your old master i also don't care. paying $1,700 psf is your money not mine.
you can serve him as your old master i also don't care. paying $1,700 psf is your money not mine.
We know you are an empty vessel nothing what you said is worth reading.
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
We know you are an empty vessel nothing what you said is worth reading.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
imposter. out here to con others. trick people into believing.
imposter. out here to con others. trick people into believing.
You can say anything you want, make up whatever stories you like to amuse yourself.
Thats is not going to change the facts that you are just an empty vessel.
You know why?
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
You can say anything you want, make up whatever stories you like to amuse yourself.
Thats is not going to change the facts that you are just an empty vessel.
You know why?
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
this guy is here with a hidden agenda, non-stop promoting JLD, now telling others to buy lakeville.
he had surpass his duty of a property agent, he had also surpass the concern of a home buyer,
his hard work here truly tells where he belongs and who he works for.
home buyers, never never believes into paying overprice property. he is just a runner
luring deers to the tigers.
Jgateway, Singapore most overpriced OCR condo, is on track for 5% drop in valuation ... Astute investors beware!
AsiaOne
Tuesday, Oct 14, 2014
SINGAPORE - Resale prices of non-landed private homes fell 0.3 per cent in September from the previous month, SRX Property said in its flash report on Tuesday.
The lower figure was attributed to a 2.1 per cent fall in resale prices of homes in the Outside Central Region (OCR).
- See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/property/news/resale-prices-non-landed-private-homes-dip-september-volume-increases#sthash.XtfGrDMM.dpuf
Jgateway, Singapore most overpriced OCR condo, is on track for 5% drop in valuation ... Astute investors beware!
On track for 5% drop in valuation? How do you measure 5% when you dont even know the current valuation?
Sound more like an empty vessel with sour grapes rather than investor actually
Current valuation of 99-years Leasehold JGateway is probably $1400 psf only, by virtue of its small mickey mouse size and also 99-years remaining lease...
For 99-years leasehold family units in Jurong, their valuation is only about $1200 psf only for new 99-years lease (and those with less number of years of lease remaining you can scale down proportionally, i.e. if less than 10-years lease means only worth <$120 psf)...
On track for 5% drop in valuation? How do you measure 5% when you dont even know the current valuation?
Sound more like an empty vessel with sour grapes rather than investor actually
When someone consume too much sour grape juice their mind will start to hallucinate. Average price of J Gateway has always been around $1400 psf its only those fools who will keep telling the world that its $1700psf because of a handful of MM units at the top floor.
Current valuation of 99-years Leasehold JGateway is probably $1400 psf only, by virtue of its small mickey mouse size and also 99-years remaining lease...
For 99-years leasehold family units in Jurong, their valuation is only about $1200 psf only for new 99-years lease (and those with less number of years of lease remaining you can scale down proportionally, i.e. if less than 10-years lease means only worth <$120 psf)...
Having said that, please dont under estimate the power of the western dragons
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/blob/1413874/1413255220000/srx-graph-2-data.jpg
When someone consume too much sour grape juice their mind will start to hallucinate. Average price of J Gateway has always been around $1400 psf its only those fools who will keep telling the world that its $1700psf because of a handful of MM units at the top floor.
Having said that, please dont under estimate the power of the western dragons
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/blob/1413874/1413255220000/srx-graph-2-data.jpg
home buyers, never never believes into paying overprice property. this man is a runner
luring deers to the tigers. you will be eaten.
I said "CURRENT VALUATION" is $1400 psf only.
As we all know, OCR private condos are seriously OVER-PRICED!
should see JGateway drop another 20-30% below $1400 psf in next 2-3 years!
When someone consume too much sour grape juice their mind will start to hallucinate. Average price of J Gateway has always been around $1400 psf its only those fools who will keep telling the world that its $1700psf because of a handful of MM units at the top floor.
Having said that, please dont under estimate the power of the western dragons
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/blob/1413874/1413255220000/srx-graph-2-data.jpg
I said "CURRENT VALUATION" is $1400 psf only.
As we all know, OCR private condos are seriously OVER-PRICED!
should see JGateway drop another 20-30% below $1400 psf in next 2-3 years!
In 2016-7 when J Gateway top, construction for new science center, JRL, CRL and perhaps the new HSR will be in full swing and we are likely to see the completion of the new Jurong Lake Garden. And by then Westgate Tower and Jem office building will be fully occupied and this coupled with the 1100 bed hospital, Genting hotel in Jurong Gateway?
Fall by 20-30%? Then your property in the wrong side of CCR will fall by 50%.
BEWARE!
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/180/9sx6.jpg
you can serve him as your old master i also don't care. paying $1,700 psf is your money not mine.
Since you don't care why still trolling here? Although I never vest jgate but those owner has already bought their unit so what do you want them to do?
BEWARE!
With me around your talisman doesn't work. Don't use this to distract others.
Beware...more good jobs are moving to the West.
Singapore, 9 October 2014 – Minister for Trade and Industry, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, officially opened the $59 million JTC Surface Engineering Hub @ Tanjong Kling (SEH), a unique, first-of-its-kind multi-tenanted development in Singapore that integrates the entire value chain of companies within the surface engineering industry.
2. The SEH sits on a 1.9 hectare site at the heart of the newly redeveloped Tanjong Kling estate. The rejuvenated estate exemplifies the government’s efforts to ensure a sustainable supply of land and space for industrialists. The estate has been redeveloped by JTC to create new work spaces and it has landed higher value-added activities anchoring companies at the forefront of innovation such as SH Cogent, OCWS, Takasago, Pepperl + Fuchs and Givaudan; thereby creating good jobs and boosting the country’s economic competitiveness in the process.
If the govt do not relax any cooling measures, your J Gateway falling 20-30% within next 3 years is not surprising, regardless of what the govt will build in JLD...
Remember: When recession comes, previously the govt said it was due to external situation and they CANNOT do anything to reverse it! The same is still TRUE today!
Remember: Previously, when property prices CRASHED in 1998-2004, all heating up measures implemented and allowed by Govt had been proven USELESS! The same will still be TRUE today!
CCR dropped 50%? Oh gosh! I welcomed that! My cash vault is already waiting to scoup up DURIANS! :moon:
One thing for sure is that I will NEVER EVER buy OCR private condos, particularly 99-years leasehold ones which has long-term value ZERO after 99 years!
In 2016-7 when J Gateway top, construction for new science center, JRL, CRL and perhaps the new HSR will be in full swing and we are likely to see the completion of the new Jurong Lake Garden. And by then Westgate Tower and Jem office building will be fully occupied and this coupled with the 1100 bed hospital, Genting hotel in Jurong Gateway?
Fall by 20-30%? Then your property in the wrong side of CCR will fall by 50%.
This type of industry is usually associated with fine particulate air pollution and organic waster water by products, hence they are located in Jurong.
Luckily there are humdreds of sensors to monitor PM2.5 pollutants around Jgateway..
The profile of employees are usually migrant workers and technicans - huat for the nearby workers dorms!
Beware...more good jobs are moving to the West.
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Once all these construction starts, the noise and traffic will drive away tenants to greener pastures e.g. Hillview and beautyworld area where there is better MRT connectivity to town.
Capitaland is not moving into westgate. Only gov agencies are moving to JLD - they dont generate as much economic activity as private MNC companies.
The hospital in jurong serves the local, not expats or tourists, again very little spillover effect
In 2016-7 when J Gateway top, construction for new science center, JRL, CRL and perhaps the new HSR will be in full swing and we are likely to see the completion of the new Jurong Lake Garden. And by then Westgate Tower and Jem office building will be fully occupied and this coupled with the 1100 bed hospital, Genting hotel in Jurong Gateway?
Fall by 20-30%? Then your property in the wrong side of CCR will fall by 50%.
Since you don't care why still trolling here? Although I never vest jgate but those owner has already bought their unit so what do you want them to do?
smarter owners will piss him off, the foolish one will worship him like god.
sorry to say you belong to the foolish one, the person who stired, you mistook him as idol.
do you really believes he vested jgate? wake up now or you will be eaten.
the idiot have 1 task now is to see lakeville sold out. motive exposed.
If the govt do not relax any cooling measures, your J Gateway falling 20-30% within next 3 years is not surprising, regardless of what the govt will build in JLD...
Remember: When recession comes, previously the govt said it was due to external situation and they CANNOT do anything to reverse it! The same is still TRUE today!
Remember: Previously, when property prices CRASHED in 1998-2004, all heating up measures implemented and allowed by Govt had been proven USELESS! The same will still be TRUE today!
CCR dropped 50%? Oh gosh! I welcomed that! My cash vault is already waiting to scoup up DURIANS! :moon:
One thing for sure is that I will NEVER EVER buy OCR private condos, particularly 99-years leasehold ones which has long-term value ZERO after 99 years!
Perhaps the price of your property located in the wrong side of CCR has been so depressing that you have now become a new Mr. B going around the forum claiming that property prices will plunge by 20-30%. Can you show us a valuation report of J Gateway to support your claim?
I said "CURRENT VALUATION" is $1400 psf only.
As we all know, OCR private condos are seriously OVER-PRICED!
should see JGateway drop another 20-30% below $1400 psf in next 2-3 years!
JLD masterplan still has got a good 10 to 15 years ahead and with the first big wave of jobs (thousands) and companies moving into JLD in 2015, any new supply that come on stream in the next few years will easily be absorb by the surge in demand. And thats exactly the reason why URA has put up another site in JLD in the confirmed list for 2014.
At the same time, dont waste your time trying to big talk about cash vault or Birkin bag, air pollution, noise pollution fengshui etc etc because no amount of cheap talking from you is going to derail the JLD masterplan.
Considering you have been hanging around this forum since 2009, I am sure if you would have listen to other forummers humble advice to invest in OCR and MM, you would have been sitting on pretty decent profit by now, especially if you invest in JLD. Want proof? Take a look at PDF file and see for yourself (But beware, the mind boggling numbers might make your property in the wrong side of CCR look pathetic)
https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/phocadownload/oct-14-multiple-choice.pdf
Once all these construction starts, the noise and traffic will drive away tenants to greener pastures e.g. Hillview and beautyworld area where there is better MRT connectivity to town.
Capitaland is not moving into westgate. Only gov agencies are moving to JLD - they dont generate as much economic activity as private MNC companies.
The hospital in jurong serves the local, not expats or tourists, again very little spillover effect
Hillview??? Regulators is vested in that area too...
Coincidence? LOL!!!
I am vested in properties in Singapore.
It do me no good if I just purely want to talk down the property prices. Thus, I am just telling the truth about my own assessment of what is happening to private property prices in Singapore. CCR private condos already down 20-30% already. This has started to spread to OCR private condos and soon OCR will be down 20-30% or even more! (considering that they have gone up by >140% since 2009 vs only about 30% for CCR now!).
Oh by the way, thousands of jobs created in JLD also no use lah. Firstly, these are skilled workers' jobs, which will be filled by a million Malaysian workers taking HSR into Singapore every morning and taking HSR back to their Malaysia homes every evening! HSR is a boom for these Malaysians living in Malaysia but working in Singapore!
Oh no, I am not going to be stuck with JGateway at a price >$1400 psf! :banghead:
Perhaps the price of your property located in the wrong side of CCR has been so depressing that you have now become a new Mr. B going around the forum claiming that property prices will plunge by 20-30%. Can you show us a valuation report of J Gateway to support your claim?
JLD masterplan still has got a good 10 to 15 years ahead and with the first big wave of jobs (thousands) and companies moving into JLD in 2015, any new supply that come on stream in the next few years will easily be absorb by the surge in demand. And thats exactly the reason why URA has put up another site in JLD in the confirmed list for 2014.
At the same time, dont waste your time trying to big talk about cash vault or Birkin bag, air pollution, noise pollution fengshui etc etc because no amount of cheap talking from you is going to derail the JLD masterplan.
Considering you have been hanging around this forum since 2009, I am sure if you would have listen to other forummers humble advice to invest in OCR and MM, you would have been sitting on pretty decent profit by now, especially if you invest in JLD. Want proof? Take a look at PDF file and see for yourself (But beware, the mind boggling numbers might make your property in the wrong side of CCR look pathetic)
https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/phocadownload/oct-14-multiple-choice.pdf
I am vested in properties in Singapore.
It do me no good if I just purely want to talk down the property prices. Thus, I am just telling the truth about my own assessment of what is happening to private property prices in Singapore. CCR private condos already down 20-30% already. This has started to spread to OCR private condos and soon OCR will be down 20-30% or even more! (considering that they have gone up by >140% since 2009 vs only about 30% for CCR now!).
Oh by the way, thousands of jobs created in JLD also no use lah. Firstly, these are skilled workers' jobs, which will be filled by a million Malaysian workers taking HSR into Singapore every morning and taking HSR back to their Malaysia homes every evening! HSR is a boom for these Malaysians living in Malaysia but working in Singapore!
Oh no, I am not going to be stuck with JGateway at a price >$1400 psf! :banghead:
There is nothing what you said in this forum that actually demonstrate that you are actually a property investors because property investors doesnt make childish cherry picking data for comparison and neither do they waste their time talk creating pollution awareness, fengshui or some foreign workers peeing in HDB void deck
a) If you have good foresight, you wont have missed the boat on OCR
b) If you have good foresight, you wont have missed the boat on MM
c) If you have good foresight, you wont have invested in the wrong side of CCR
Enuff said and we shall revisit what you said in 2 years time.
I said "CURRENT VALUATION" is $1400 psf only.
As we all know, OCR private condos are seriously OVER-PRICED!
should see JGateway drop another 20-30% below $1400 psf in next 2-3 years!
HSR for daily commute to Singapore? How much do you think the ticket is going to cost?
smarter owners will piss him off, the foolish one will worship him like god.
sorry to say you belong to the foolish one, the person who stired, you mistook him as idol.
do you really believes he vested jgate? wake up now or you will be eaten.
the idiot have 1 task now is to see lakeville sold out. motive exposed.
IMHO, I think many westie don't care whether he is an imposter or not so long he promote and talk good about JLD with data :banana:...rather than those that talk bad and not westie some more...:banghead:.!
Like I said in my previous post that whether he vested, imposter or not is none of a concern to westie and me :drinking_coffee_ico. Paiseh to say, I don't see him as an idol too hor :playful: but I believe what I see everyday in the West personally rather than some ppl always said ; hearsay, friends say, relatives say west no good....:doh: !
We will know how far the west dragon will go after 3~5 years down the road rather than arguing at this juncture...:hornybastard: !
Good nite ..:sleep:!
Stop wasting your brain cells on big talking empty vessel...
Here is a good example about his loud mouth big talking.
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
Stop wasting your brain cells on big talking empty vessel...
Here is a good example about his loud mouth big talking.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
never never buy overpriced property, never never listen to promoter.
the job of a promoter is to get meat and feed the tigers.
this guy is here with a hidden agenda, non-stop promoting JLD, now telling others to buy lakeville.
he had surpass his duty of a property agent, he had also surpass the concern of a home buyer,
his hard work here truly tells where he belongs and who he works for.
home buyers, never never believes into paying overprice property. he is just a runner
luring deers to the tigers.
care to share who you work for?
So you are saying you have demonstrated that you are actually a property investor?
The one of a few "property investors" who don't know JLD is surrounded by heavy industries and no affluent people really want to live there to be subjected to 96% concentration of SO2 of whole Singapore being produced in Jurong West area and is not even worth $1000 psf for 99-years leasehold properties there? Questionable!
There is nothing what you said in this forum that actually demonstrate that you are actually a property investors because property investors doesnt make childish cherry picking data for comparison and neither do they waste their time talk creating pollution awareness, fengshui or some foreign workers peeing in HDB void deck
a) If you have good foresight, you wont have missed the boat on OCR
b) If you have good foresight, you wont have missed the boat on MM
c) If you have good foresight, you wont have invested in the wrong side of CCR
Enuff said and we shall revisit what you said in 2 years time.
HSR for daily commute to Singapore? How much do you think the ticket is going to cost?
So you are saying you have demonstrated that you are actually a property investor?
The one of a few "property investors" who don't know JLD is surrounded by heavy industries and no affluent people really want to live there to be subjected to 96% concentration of SO2 of whole Singapore being produced in Jurong West area and is not even worth $1000 psf for 99-years leasehold properties there? Questionable!
There is already thread on air pollution, perhaps you can divert all your baseless pollution comment in that thread
instead of polluting everywhere in the forum.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/21010-AIR-POLLUTION-THREAD/page5
Notice something is missing?....BEWARE
MORE THAN 20% OFF HISTORICAL HIGH - RESIDENTIAL
https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/price-alert/off-high
never never buy overpriced property, never never listen to promoter.
the job of a promoter is to get meat and feed the tigers.
a gentle reminder.
Thermofisher
16-10-14, 11:56
Now can buy what condo? Stocks crashing. HDB price crashing. Jobs losing. What's next?! Firesales yet? I am waiting!
a gentle reminder.
Very IMPORTANT reminder.
Dont let to blind teach you how to drive.
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
Yes we saw it!
TOP DISCOUNT are mostly 99-years leasehold properties!
Notice something is missing?....BEWARE
MORE THAN 20% OFF HISTORICAL HIGH - RESIDENTIAL
https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/price-alert/off-high
Yes we saw it!
TOP DISCOUNT are mostly 99-years leasehold properties!
Clear your your mind or your eyes will fail you.
The biggest fall is a Dist 10 FREEHOLD property at 58.2%.
3rd and 4th place are also FREEHOLD at 54.8% and 50.1%.
And you conveniently forget to tell us that the 2ND BIGGEST FALL is a 99-YEARS LEASEHOLD PROPERTY at 56%,
and the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th etc LARGEST DROPS are all 99-YEARS LEASEHOLD PROPERTIES! :mad-new:
That makes it 7 OUT OF 10 TOP BIGGEST DROP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clear your your mind or your eyes will fail you.
The biggest fall is a Dist 10 FREEHOLD property at 58.2%.
3rd and 4th place are also FREEHOLD at 54.8% and 50.1%.
Yes we saw it!
TOP DISCOUNT are mostly 99-years leasehold properties!
And you conveniently forget to tell us that the 2ND BIGGEST FALL is a 99-YEARS LEASEHOLD PROPERTY at 56%,
and the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th etc LARGEST DROPS are all 99-YEARS LEASEHOLD PROPERTIES! :mad-new:
That makes it 7 OUT OF 10 TOP BIGGEST DROP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what is the % of LH vs FH property in Singapore?
FREEHOLD District 10 CCR property suffer the biggest drop. Must be in the wrong side of CCR.
That must be very embarrassing
And btw, do you have the answer to my question? What is missing in that table?
Patrickstar
17-10-14, 00:17
I have given up trying to educate that idiot, I suggest you stop wasting your precious time on him. You expect that idiot to understand what you just said? lol....
And you conveniently forget to tell us that the 2ND BIGGEST FALL is a 99-YEARS LEASEHOLD PROPERTY at 56%,
and the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th etc LARGEST DROPS are all 99-YEARS LEASEHOLD PROPERTIES! :mad-new:
That makes it 7 OUT OF 10 TOP BIGGEST DROP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have given up trying to educate that idiot, I suggest you stop wasting your precious time on him. You expect that idiot to understand what you just said? lol....
So after spending 1 week lurking around this forum using another forum name, you have decided to reappear using your SPERM account again??
I am surprise you are not banned from this forum actually Regulators.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/22611-Should-Patrickstar-be-ban-from-this-forum
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/18201-Owners-in-the-West-beware!!/page1027?p=491933#post491933
Patrickstar
17-10-14, 02:35
Oh my goodness, I was talking to teddy about the idiot and you appeared to confirm that you are the one...lol... You are really hilarious
So after spending 1 week lurking around this forum using another forum name, you have decided to reappear using your SPERM account again??
I am surprise you are not banned from this forum actually Regulators.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/22611-Should-Patrickstar-be-ban-from-this-forum
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/18201-Owners-in-the-West-beware!!/page1027?p=491933#post491933
Patrickstar
17-10-14, 02:50
Before I forget to mention, I think this Regulators must be either your father or mother since you love this person so much to mention him/her all the time. Since you are craving for his/her presence all the time, I take it that you have been disowned, poor kid. Don't feel sad for being a waste of sperm n egg, we understand how you feel.
So after spending 1 week lurking around this forum using another forum name, you have decided to reappear using your SPERM account again??
I am surprise you are not banned from this forum actually Regulators.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/22611-Should-Patrickstar-be-ban-from-this-forum
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/18201-Owners-in-the-West-beware!!/page1027?p=491933#post491933
Oh my goodness, I was talking to teddy about the idiot and you appeared to confirm that you are the one...lol... You are really hilarious
You have been caught (see below link) Just quit the forum and bring all your SPERM talk with you.
And as you have seen the poll, majority of those who poll is in favor of you being banned from this forum. (see link)
Which mean, your vulgarity and hostility contribution to this forum is NOT WELCOME.
So please do me a favor, STOP posting in this thread.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/18201-Owners-in-the-West-beware!!/page1027?p=491933#post491933
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/22611-Should-Patrickstar-be-ban-from-this-forum
Please QUIT.
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/976x167q90/r/661/w7LzAJ.jpg
So after spending 1 week lurking around this forum using another forum name, you have decided to reappear using your SPERM account again??
I am surprise you are not banned from this forum actually Regulators.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/22611-Should-Patrickstar-be-ban-from-this-forum
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/18201-Owners-in-the-West-beware!!/page1027?p=491933#post491933
I suggest you change your indentity and come here as a new person. act tough actually shorten life, very stressful.
I suggest you change your indentity and come here as a new person. act tough actually shorten life, very stressful.
Dont waste our time, nobody is interested with your childish nonsense and lies.
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
Patrickstar
17-10-14, 12:43
"Caught"? Lol.... I seriously sympathise your current mental state. You KPKB about your lost parent nvm but please lah, don't think everybody is your parent. We understand why you have been disowned coz you are a waste of sperm n egg.
You have been caught (see below link) Just quit the forum and bring all your SPERM talk with you.
And as you have seen the poll, majority of those who poll is in favor of you being banned from this forum. (see link)
Which mean, your vulgarity and hostility contribution to this forum is NOT WELCOME.
So please do me a favor, STOP posting in this thread.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/18201-Owners-in-the-West-beware!!/page1027?p=491933#post491933
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/22611-Should-Patrickstar-be-ban-from-this-forum
"Caught"? Lol.... I seriously sympathise your current mental state. You KPKB about your lost parent nvm but please lah, don't think everybody is your parent. We understand why you have been disowned coz you are a waste of sperm n egg.
You should QUIT this forum and bring all your SPERM talk together with you.
You are not welcome in this thread or FORUM. Please see the polls REGULATORS!!
You have been caught (see below link) Just quit the forum and bring all your SPERM talk with you.
And as you have seen the poll, majority of those who poll is in favor of you being banned from this forum. (see link)
Which mean, your vulgarity and hostility contribution to this forum is NOT WELCOME.
So please do me a favor, STOP posting in this thread.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/18201-Owners-in-the-West-beware!!/page1027?p=491933#post491933
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/22611-Should-Patrickstar-be-ban-from-this-forum
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/976x167q90/r/661/w7LzAJ.jpg
Patrickstar
17-10-14, 12:59
I think you should leave all forums on the Internet alone since you are nothing more than a nuisance who constantly irritates people by accusing them of being others. Nvm being a waste of sperm n egg, but leave your insecurities at home coz we are not interested in whoever that has disowned you.
You should QUIT this forum and bring all your SPERM talk together with you.
You are not welcome in this thread or FORUM. Please see the polls REGULATORS!!
I think you should leave all forums on the Internet alone since you are nothing more than a nuisance who constantly irritates people by accusing them of being others. Nvm being a waste of sperm n egg, but leave your insecurities at home coz we are not interested in whoever that has disowned you.
Respect the opinion of the poll and stop posting in this thread. If you are smart as you think you are, go start a thread to showcase your knowledge and talent.
And please stop creating so many forum account, its very childish.
You have been caught (see below link) Just quit the forum and bring all your SPERM talk with you.
And as you have seen the poll, majority of those who poll is in favor of you being banned from this forum. (see link)
Which mean, your vulgarity and hostility contribution to this forum is NOT WELCOME.
So please do me a favor, STOP posting in this thread.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/18201-Owners-in-the-West-beware!!/page1027?p=491933#post491933
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/22611-Should-Patrickstar-be-ban-from-this-forum
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/976x167q90/r/661/w7LzAJ.jpg
Notice something is missing?....BEWARE
MORE THAN 20% OFF HISTORICAL HIGH - RESIDENTIAL
https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/price-alert/off-high
Yes something is missing - Jgateway, Singapore most overpriced OCR condo at 17xx psf, will be found in this page in next few years.
Think about it, the URA index is coming downhill since Jgateway is sold at the peak of property boom. No OCR condo is launched above 17xx psf since then. Astute investor will avoid Jgateway until it is more than 20% off its peak at 17xx psf. Expats will avoid Jgateway due to PM2.5 and SO2 concerns as evident by hundreds of enviromental sensors surronding Jgateway.
Yes something is missing - Jgateway, Singapore most overpriced OCR condo at 17xx psf, will be found in this page in next few years.
Think about it, the URA index is coming downhill since Jgateway is sold at the peak of property boom. No OCR condo is launched above 17xx psf since then. Astute investor will avoid Jgateway until it is more than 20% off its peak at 17xx psf. Expats will avoid Jgateway due to PM2.5 and SO2 concerns as evident by hundreds of enviromental sensors surronding Jgateway.
Regulators is also very vested in Hillview area...what a coincident huh??
LOL..
Please stop trolling in this forum. If you think you are smart, why not start you own thread to show the world how smart you are in investing property?
Your self denial is understandable... Bought at the peak at 17xx psf in OCR, the URA index has headed downhill, Lakefront rental demand has fallen, Lakeville sales volume has stagnant, a EC that is 100% cheaper, for sake of your sanity, better to be in the state of self denial that to admit to be carrothead
Anyone with the slightest common sense will know that its impossible for a troll like you to know what i own what I bought and how much I pay for it.
All you are capable of doing in this forum is to make up silly self fulfilling stories to entertain yourself.
Dont waste our time, nobody is interested with your childish nonsense and lies.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
Everytime I post you sure reply, this show you read all the time.
Everytime I post you sure reply, this show you read all the time.
We all know you are just an empty vessel in this forum, there is no need to pretend you are not. Perhaps keep quiet is a good option to consider
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
BT reported that
"median rentals of non-landed pri- vate homes in Jurong have fallen about 8 per cent as at Q2 2014 since the start of 2013 despite the current limited pri- vate housing stock in Jurong. This decline was larger than the 3.2 per cent fall in overall suburban rentals, against the backdrop of a large number of completions island- wide."
Beware!
Valuation of the most overpriced OCR condo is heading south soon as rental cannot justify its 17xx psf.
BT Report??
How to reading the full report instead of bits and pcs..
BEWARE!!! HOT HOT HOT
http://imageshack.com/a/img910/2268/vVMbhm.jpg
Median price of condos in Jurong only increased 60-70% since 2009?
Trying to mislead people? :mad-new:
Look at the transacted prices in 2009 lows and now, Jurong condo prices must have increased 140% or more!
Jurong condo prices seriously OVER-HEATED!
BT Report??
How to reading the full report instead of bits and pcs..
BEWARE!!! HOT HOT HOT
http://imageshack.com/a/img910/2268/vVMbhm.jpg
BT Report??
How to reading the full report instead of bits and pcs..
BEWARE!!! HOT HOT HOT
http://imageshack.com/a/img910/2268/vVMbhm.jpg
Always advertised for same developer, you must be top producer for this project? Promote JLD, one stone hit 2 birds. You had surpass the duty of a property agent. Agenda clearly spell out.
Always advertised for same developer, you must be top producer for this project? Promote JLD, one stone hit 2 birds. You had surpass the duty of a property agent. Agenda clearly spell out.
Luring the deers to the Tigers.
Always advertised for same developer, you must be top producer for this project? Promote JLD, one stone hit 2 birds. You had surpass the duty of a property agent. Agenda clearly spell out.
Dont waste our time.
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
Always advertised for same developer, you must be top producer for this project? Promote JLD, one stone hit 2 birds. You had surpass the duty of a property agent. Agenda clearly spell out.
the cocky west dragon, look at what you did.
BEWARE of the WESTERN DRAGON!!!
http://imageshack.com/a/img910/2268/vVMbhm.jpg
Don't believe West Dragon lah!
According to my Fengshui master, West Dragon is long dead.
All those talk about it is imposter!
According to my FM, turbulence coming to West! BEWARE!
BEWARE!!!
Better to listen to TOP NOTCH Fengshui Master Tan, than some Teddybear fengshui story from the wrong side of CCR
From the perspective of fengshui, Jurong, located in the western part of Singapore, falls into the category of the western dragon. According to WayOnNet Group's Top Notch Fengshui Master Tan, Western dragon is the most beautiful dragon of the five dragons. It starts from Tuas and ends at Pearl's Hill. This piece of land is also the "Land of the Flower Basket" which is also where the Golden Boy and Jade Girl fell in love. The "Land of Flower Basket" lies within the lake- Chinese and Japanese Garden and Tang Dynasty. From the perspective of fengshui, Singapore's western dragon belongs to the metal element and is therefore advantageous to the technical profession. Thus, Jurong Industrial Park is seen as well suited for light industrial activities.
The purity and simplicity of the Jurong district linger despite the introduction of the industrial sector. Traffic jams are minimal in the morning and is smoother towards the evening. Several well-known learning institutions such as National University of Singapore, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore Polytechnic and Ngee Ann Polytechnic gather in the West as well. The scenery is magnificent but unfortunately, many people fail to notice its aura. Furthermore, the Jurong district is currently experiencing a poor luck cycle in today's fortune 8 and thus has failed to develop to its best. Given its unfavourable fengshui, an allowance of at least ten to fifteen years is required for better luck to come by. Coincidentally, in ten to fifteen years, the new Jurong district will be evolved.
Till date, luxurious shopping districts, hotels, cafes and entertainment are still lacking in the West. As Jurong has been emphasizing too much on industrialization, it has overlooked those areas, which promise bright prospects. Jurong possesses the necessary conditions to be developed into a business and entertainment district. It would also be ideal if cars will be allowed to enter Lakeside, where all the entertainment lies, to ease transportation and create convenience among the people. Now is a good time to seize the opportunity to start investing in Jurong as its properties are still relatively cheap. Once the development is completed and luck starts picking up, property prices will also soar.
Don't believe West Dragon lah!
According to my Fengshui master, West Dragon is long dead.
All those talk about it is imposter!
According to my FM, turbulence coming to West! BEWARE!
west dragon disguise as a JGateway buyer,consistently promote JLD but behind telling people to buy lakeville,
these 2 projects were from same developer, anybody by now should know who he is.
buyers, never never listen to promoters and never never buy overprice property.
Never know that Master Tan is top notch!
Can give example how he is top notch?
Top notch of superstition is still superstition right?!
Don't understand why people will believe such non-sense!
BEWARE!!!
Better to listen to TOP NOTCH Fengshui Master Tan, than some Teddybear fengshui story from the wrong side of CCR
Python stuck in Jurong West drainage pipe has twisted abdomen and seems to be dying
Posted on 07 April 2014
Stomper Zilong saw the python stuck in a drainage pipe at Jurong West yesterday (Apr 6) at 9am, and fears that it is on the brink of death.
On Saturday (Apr 5), Stomper Joann noticed that a big crowd had gathered around a canal at Jurong West Street 81 to see a python which was stuck in the drainage pipe, and she called the police to rescue the snake.
It is unknown what happened after that.
Stomper Zilong said that the white gunny sack around the snake, and its twisted torso suggest that someone tried to pull the snake out of the pipe.
Said the Stomper in an email to Stomp:
"A long metal pole in the long kang (canal) could have been used to pin the snake down.
"Judging from the twisted abdomen, the python probably sustained injuries from the rescue attempt.
"The snake only managed to display sluggish movement. Life seems to be fading away for this unfortunate python."
Don't believe West Dragon lah!
According to my Fengshui master, West Dragon is long dead.
All those talk about it is imposter!
According to my FM, turbulence coming to West! BEWARE!
Python stuck in Jurong West drainage pipe has twisted abdomen and seems to be dying
Posted on 07 April 2014
Stomper Zilong saw the python stuck in a drainage pipe at Jurong West yesterday (Apr 6) at 9am, and fears that it is on the brink of death.
On Saturday (Apr 5), Stomper Joann noticed that a big crowd had gathered around a canal at Jurong West Street 81 to see a python which was stuck in the drainage pipe, and she called the police to rescue the snake.
It is unknown what happened after that.
Stomper Zilong said that the white gunny sack around the snake, and its twisted torso suggest that someone tried to pull the snake out of the pipe.
Said the Stomper in an email to Stomp:
"A long metal pole in the long kang (canal) could have been used to pin the snake down.
"Judging from the twisted abdomen, the python probably sustained injuries from the rescue attempt.
"The snake only managed to display sluggish movement. Life seems to be fading away for this unfortunate python."
This is nothing compare to Teddybear talking about foreign worker peeing.
BEWARE....
http://www.todayonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/photo_gallery_image_lightbox/public/20470675.JPG
SINGAPORE — To oversee the upcoming developments in the Jurong Lake District, the Government has set up a 14-member Steering Committee led by Minister for Culture, Community and Youth Lawrence Wong, said Deputy Prime Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam today (19 Oct).
The committee will also include Senior Minister of State for Finance and Transport Josephine Teo, Minister of State for National Development Desmond Lee and other individuals involved in urban planning, natural heritage, science and technology, among other things.
First announced at this year’s National Day Rally, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said a new Jurong Lake Gardens will be created by combining the existing Jurong Lake Park, Japanese and Chinese Gardens, as well as the new Science Centre.
Other long-term ideas for the area include further road-widening projects to relieve congestion in the Jurong Gateway area, as well as a possibility that the future Kuala Lumpur-Singapore High-Speed Rail terminus could be sited in Jurong.
Speaking at the third wave of Project Blue WaVe held at Jurong Lake Park, Mr Tharman noted how while the lake is a serene place with its own character, both the lake and gardens can be much better used.
“It must be, as Prime Minister Lee put it, a ‘people’s garden’, filled with activities and community events, and where the spirit of community gardening comes alive,” he said.
The challenge, he noted, is to ensure the natural feel and sense of heritage of the place is retained but also inject life and enable many more to enjoy the place.
As development work for the new Jurong Lake Gardens gets underway, Project Blue WaVe will then bring communities together in year-long ground-up environment conservation efforts.
A separate Water-Venture Committee for Jurong Lake will also gather inputs from residents, and facilitate eco-themed activities and educational programmes. They are expected to engage up to 5,000 residents, young families and youths in the next few months.
BEWARE....
Lure the deers to the tiger.
Most likely lure all people to JLD, then a few years later move focus to develop say Woodlands, keep shifting to sell land at good and high price (just like >10 years ago the focus is on Punggol, so did Punggol's property price fly to the sky? :pig:)
Lure the deers to the tiger.
Most likely lure all people to JLD, then a few years later move focus to develop say Woodlands, keep shifting to sell land at good and high price (just like >10 years ago the focus is on Punggol, so did Punggol's property price fly to the sky? :pig:)
Why dont you start a thread about woodland regional center?
Owners in the WEST BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!
TITLE: Jurong West on dengue alert after 12 new cases in two weeks
POSTED: 19 Oct 2014 22:15
Twelve new dengue cases have been reported at Jurong West Street 52 and Corporation Road, bringing the total number of cases there to 36 and making it the biggest dengue cluster.
SINGAPORE: In just the past two weeks, 12 new dengue cases have been reported at Jurong West Street 52 and Corporation Road.
This brings the total number of cases there to 36 - making it the biggest dengue cluster.
As of last Friday (Oct 17), 26 cases were reported at Jurong West Street 52, of which 14 came from Block 518. Ten more cases were reported at Corporation Road.
Some residents suspect that an abandoned police station in the vicinity could have become a mosquito breeding ground. "There are a lot of weeds growing in the drain next to the carpark and I believe it's waterlogged but we have no way of getting in to take a look. So, I hope the relevant authorities will come and clear it," said a resident.
Residents also expressed their concern over the rise in the number of cases.
BEWARE....
When a district keeping hitting the news headline you need to BEWARE!!!
Jobs and more Jobs.
IN THE biggest office leasing deal for a new suburban project so far this year, CPG Corporation has taken a lease of 83,000 sq ft at Westgate Tower next to Jurong East MRT Station. The group will move out from Novena Square, where it occupies its present office of about 80,000 sq ft under a lease that expires in Q1 2016.
The infrastructure and building development and management services provider, formerly the Public Works Department (PWD) of Singapore, is expected to move into Westgate Tower in the fourth quarter of next year. CPG is said to have inked a 10-year lease.
Westgate Tower, a Green Mark Platinum building with Grade A office specifications, received Temporary Occupation Permit earlier this month and the owner, a joint venture between Sun Venture and Low Keng Huat, is likely to start handing space to tenants in December.
Including the CPG lease, about 60 per cent of Westgate Tower is leased.
JLL brokered the CPG leasing deal. Its head of leasing Chris Archibold said: "We are a strong believer in the Jurong story as a successful new out-of-town office hub, given its transportation links, volume of retail and presence of a large residential catchment." He also sees strong demand for the space CPG is vacating in Novena Square, given that the area has always been popular among occupiers.
Other tenants that have signed up at Westgate Tower include serviced office operator Just Office, Lockheed Martin, United Overseas Bank, MEA Technologies, Future Lab and Joss Offshore which is involved in the shipping business.
CPG will occupy the top five office floors (levels 21 to 25) in Westgate Tower, which has 20 levels of offices totalling about 305,000 sq ft net lettable area. Asking rents in the building are between S$6.50 and S$6.90 per square foot a month, depending on the square footage requirement and the level.
Offices span levels six to 25 of the 27-storey building. The office lobby is on level two. Office floor plates at Westgate Tower are about 8,700 sq ft-8,800 sq ft (on levels six to eight) and 15,855-16,700 sq ft on levels nine to 25.
The building's Grade A office specs include a good floor-to-ceiling height of 2.8 metres and raised floor system.
The office tower is part of the mixed development Westgate project developed by CapitaLand, CapitaMalls Asia and CapitaMall Trust.
In January, the trio sold the 20 levels of offices to the Sun Venture-Low Keng Huat tie-up at S$579.4 million, which works out to about S$1,900 per square foot (psf) of net saleable area. The seven-storey shopping centre in the Westgate project opened its doors in December last year.
When Singapore God for Prosperity talk you need to BEWARE!!
When big guns join forces to develop a project you need to BEWARE....
IIRC, the last time this happen was then Singapore was developing the IR project.
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sites/default/files/styles/large_popup/public/articles/2014/10/20/BT_20141020_LKJURONG20_1327114.jpg?
A STEERING committee comprising members of the public and private sectors has been formed to oversee developments in the Jurong Lake District and its surrounding areas.
The 14-member committee will be headed by Lawrence Wong, Minister for Culture, Community and Youth and Second Minister for Ministry of Communications and Information, said Deputy Prime Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam.
He was speaking at a grassroots event on Sunday morning at Jurong Lake where over 700 Jurong residents had gathered to participate in a line-up of environmental conservation activities.
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Plans are afoot to give Jurong Lake District a fresh makeover with the development of Jurong Lake Gardens with a new Science Centre and other longer-term possibilities around the lake as announced by Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong in his National Day Rally speech this year.
The Jurong Lake District has also been suggested as a possible site for the terminus of the proposed high-speed rail line between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur.
"Since the 2008 Master Plan, we have developed commercial and residential spaces at Jurong Gateway. Now, we are in a new phase of this transformation that will change the image of Jurong," Mr Tharman said.
The government is also studying further plans to improve the Jurong Lake District and its surrounding areas.
"One idea is to integrate the Pandan Reservoir area south of the AYE with Jurong Lake District to form a larger and more cohesive area," he said. "We could create new housing options for Singaporeans, near the waterfront and beautiful parks."
The government will also study how to improve accessibility between Jurong Lake District and surrounding residential and business nodes, Mr Tharman added. "For instance, we could make cycling a choice mode, with more dedicated cycling paths and park connectors, linking up Jurong and areas such as Pandan and Teban Gardens estates, Tengah New Town, Clean Tech Park, NTU and Bulim and Tengah industrial estates."
He noted that these are ambitious plans involving many agencies and requiring close partnership with the private sector and local community, which is why the steering committee is necessary.
Also in this committee are Senior Minister of State for Finance and Transport Josephine Teo, and Minister of State for National Development Desmond Lee, as well as executive director for Centre for Liveable Cities Khoo Teng Chye, Housing and Development Board CEO Cheong Koon Hean, and Koh Boon Hwee, who is chairman of several companies including Yeo Hiap Seng Ltd and Far East Orchard Ltd.
The committee will look at all the options, and gather ideas and feedback from the local community before the plans are finalised.
Over the next one to two years, it will study the plans for the areas in and around Jurong Lake District to ensure its vibrancy and opportunities for jobs, learning and recreation.
Early next year, NParks will be inviting the public to give ideas that will be incorporated into the brief for the masterplan design competition for Jurong Lake Gardens, slated to be bigger than Bishan-Ang Mo Kio Park.
"The new Jurong Lake Gardens will not be developed in a rush," Mr Tharman said. "We will take care that it retains its special character."
The development will take place in phases over several years, starting with the completion of Jurong Lake Destination Park on the western shore of the lake in 2017.
When Singapore God for Prosperity talk you need to BEWARE!!
When big guns join forces to develop a project you need to BEWARE....
IIRC, the last time this happen was then Singapore was developing the IR project.
straight to the point (buyers, please buy lakeville......... i beg you) why keep blowing trumpet and divert attention to JLD?
invigorated
20-10-14, 10:10
When a district keeping hitting the news headline you need to BEWARE!!!
Jobs and more Jobs.
Ringo, I always find it ironic that you use the word 'BEWARE'.
In most dictionaries, BEWARE means 'to be on one's guard / to be wary'. There are negative connotations to the word that goes against the positive message that you want to drive across.
straight to the point (buyers, please buy lakeville......... i beg you) why keep blowing trumpet and divert attention to JLD?
As I have said many times before. Please stop trolling in this thread, we already know you are just an empty vessel big talking in this forum.
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
Ringo, I always find it ironic that you use the word 'BEWARE'.
In most dictionaries, BEWARE means 'to be on one's guard / to be wary'. There are negative connotations to the word that goes against the positive message that you want to drive across.
When someone who has been hibernating away from this forum for a long period suddenly start to engage in Patrickstar favorite topic. you better BEWARE!!
invigorated
20-10-14, 10:25
ah... so you've finally learnt how to use the word 'beware'.
I agree that I am rather inactive in this forum but that doesnt necessitate that I am a clone, if that is what you are trying to insinuate. Not everyone is free enough like u to argue everyday with others on JLD. We have a life.
I'm just pointing out an inaccuracy and your response says much about your openness to logic and criticism.
REALLY HAVE TO BEWARE!!!
4 arrested over 'HDB brothel'
Saturday, September 6, 2014 - 08:00
Lim Yi Han
The Straits Times
A man and three women were arrested on Tuesday for allegedly carrying out prostitution activities in a Housing Board flat in Jurong West.
Neighbours had raised concerns that a brothel was being run in their midst.
A spokesman for the police said they responded to a call for assistance at 8.45pm. They went to the fifth-storey flat at Block 669B, where the four suspects were arrested.
The owner of the flat, who wanted to be known only as Madam Chai, told The Straits Times that she had rented the flat out to four men and two women on Monday for around $3,000 a month. They were all from China.
The 60-year-old said: "In our contract, we stated that there must be no immoral activities. I did tell my neighbours to keep a lookout on the number of men and women entering the flat.
"Now that police are involved, I chased the other tenants out immediately.
"I don't want this sort of hanky-panky to happen again. I don't want to rent out my flat any more - once bitten, twice shy."
One neighbour told Chinese evening daily Lianhe Wanbao that there are secondary schools in the vicinity, and he did not want students to be exposed to such illicit activities. He said he hoped that police will step up security in the estate.
Police investigations are ongoing.
The maximum penalty for living on a prostitute's earnings is a five-year jail term and $10,000 in fines
This article was first published on Sep 4, 2014.
Get a copy of The Straits Times or go to straitstimes.com for more stories.
beware
bɪˈwɛː/Submit
verb
be cautious and alert to risks or dangers.
"shoppers were warned to beware of cut-price fakes"
synonyms: be on your guard, watch out, look out, mind out, be wary, be careful, be cautious, be on the lookout, be on the alert, keep your eyes open, keep a sharp lookout, be on the qui vive; take care, take heed, have a care, take it slowly, look where you're going, tread carefully, proceed with caution; informalwatch your step, keep an eye out, keep your eyes peeled/skinned, look before you leap, think twice; school slangcave; fore; ware
More great things is coming to JLD......BEWARE!!
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I am not doubting that JLD will not grow but it will take a while to grow as Tharman mention in his address yesterday at JLD that they will be in phases. Lots of cleaning up to do but there will be an addition of new ports in the western scorpion tail.
More great things is coming to JLD......BEWARE!!
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I am not doubting that JLD will not grow but it will take a while to grow as Tharman mention in his address yesterday at JLD that they will be in phases. Lots of cleaning up to do but there will be an addition of new ports in the western scorpion tail.
The commercial sides of JLD are already firing in all cylinder and companies and jobs are starting to move in.
What will take time is to develop is transportation infrastructure and the lakeside garden and one of reason why
they are taking their time is because there are some very important project in the pipeline that could possibility
change the plan for the garden.
It is likely to have several SER programmes in the jurong east area in the next few years. JLD will still be in heavy engineering and logistic based related industry. I am not sure if the existing expats in oil and gas industry working at Jurong Island are attracted to this area. They probably know too well that they may not want their family to be in close proximity to jurong island or pulau bukom. First project in JLD will only complete in 2017. It will take quite a long while to be developed.
The commercial sides of JLD are already firing in all cylinder and companies and jobs are starting to move in.
What will take time is to develop is transportation infrastructure and the lakeside garden and one of reason why
they are taking their time is because there are some very important project in the pipeline that could possibility
change the plan for the garden.
It is likely to have several SER programmes in the jurong east area in the next few years. JLD will still be in heavy engineering and logistic based related industry. I am not sure if the existing expats in oil and gas industry working at Jurong Island are attracted to this area. They probably know too well that they may not want their family to be in close proximity to jurong island or pulau bukom. First project in JLD will only complete in 2017. It will take quite a long while to be developed.
JLD is a commercial center. Dont confuse that with Jurong and Tuas and Jurong is a big place, distant from JLD to Tuas is around the same distant from JLD to Marina Bay.
Jurong Gateway is fast becoming a hot spot for shoppers, more and more tourist are starting to venture into JLD to shop instead of Orchards.
Air pollution? Those who understand them will take you it make no difference when the entire southern sea line are polluted with bunkers fumes from ships
The commercial sides of JLD are already firing in all cylinder and companies and jobs are starting to move in.
What will take time is to develop is transportation infrastructure and the lakeside garden and one of reason why
they are taking their time is because there are some very important project in the pipeline that could possibility
change the plan for the garden.
you promote so hard what are you actually trying to sell? if you want buyers to grab some left over properties please say so. be direct.
show this hotel for what??
you are not a good actor. mask always fell off, maybe you should switch to do stunt.
you promote so hard what are you actually trying to sell? if you want buyers to grab some left over properties please say so. be direct.
show this hotel for what??
you are not a good actor. mask always fell off, maybe you should switch to do stunt.
stop making up stories to amused yourself. Go start a thread if you think you are so smart.
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
Do look at the other "centres" namely, Changi Business Park, Aerospace in the Selelar area, etc. Each of them has its own theme. JLD has its own theme too. They cannot be relocating all the heavy - oil and gas industry to the east or the north as it is feasible.
JLD is a commercial center. Dont confuse that with Jurong and Tuas and Jurong is a big place, distant from JLD to Tuas is around the same distant from JLD to Marina Bay.
Jurong Gateway is fast becoming a hot spot for shoppers, more and more tourist are starting to venture into JLD to shop instead of Orchards.
Air pollution? Those who understand them will take you it make no difference when the entire southern sea line are polluted with bunkers fumes from ships
Do look at the other "centres" namely, Changi Business Park, Aerospace in the Selelar area, etc. Each of them has its own theme. JLD has its own theme too. They cannot be relocating all the heavy - oil and gas industry to the east or the north as it is feasible.
There is no theme for JLD, it just going to be the largest commercial hub outside CBD and it will also be turn into a world class attraction, lifestyle, educational, healthcare, retail transport hub as well, something you cant find in any of the the above.
Plus, in the east, there are already heaving industry, its located at pasir gudang, and bunker fumes are extremely toxic too, and they are all along southern coast line. If you wish to talk about pollution, you can actually do it in the other thread.
You are like my children when they are much younger. Ignore things that they do not want to see or hear. Besides the hardware and software, it requires the peopleware to make things happen. You will know by looking at the amount of investment in $ terms. World class attraction in Jurong area? D you mean the park? Bird park already scheduled to move. Healthcare? It is only NG TF hospital for general public. How to compare with Novena? This can go on.....
There is no theme for JLD, it just going to be the largest commercial hub outside CBD and it will also be turn into a world class attraction, lifestyle, educational, healthcare, retail transport hub as well, something you cant find in any of the the above.
Plus, in the east, there are already heaving industry, its located at pasir gudang, and bunker fumes are extremely toxic too, and they are all along southern coast line. If you wish to talk about pollution, you can actually do it in the other thread.
You are like my children when they are much younger. Ignore things that they do not want to see or hear. Besides the hardware and software, it requires the peopleware to make things happen. You will know by looking at the amount of investment in $ terms. World class attraction in Jurong area? D you mean the park? Bird park already scheduled to move. Healthcare? It is only NG TF hospital for general public. How to compare with Novena? This can go on.....
JLD Masterplan is not your childhood masak masak. This is a very comprehensive and ambitious masterplan that has been keeping many government agencies very busy and something which has been spoke about in many of PM Lee speeches.
a) In this context, the "peopleware" you talking about is actually the Software, while the building and infrastructure are the hardware. Please do note use that again because if you are referring to people just say people, dont need to be peopleware. In terms of people, a huge wave of jobs are moving into JLD and you will be able to read about it in the coming MONTHS not years or decade. Beside hardware and software, JLD is also looking into embracing technology to develop JLD into a model energy efficient and high density district which can be use to transplant into other part of Singapore
b) In terms of $, there is no need to second guess how much money have been pump into JLD by both government and private companies. One trip around the JLD you will be able to see what is already buzzing in JLD and a look at the masterplan will tell you what are coming on stream.
c) Government agency are working hard to transform JLD into world class attraction and this vision has already been mentioned many time by Isawaran and STB who are both responsible for bringing F1 and IR into Singapore. The new science center will be one of them and there are other mega attractions which will be coming soon.
d) NTFH and JCH has a combine of 1100 beds which is similar in size to the NUH and many of the medical suites at Vision Exchange has already been sold at over $3000psf, plus a big dental clinic chain has recently make a very aggressive acquisition into JLD. And that is not going to be end because when HSR is confirmed, rest assure that private healthcare provider will jump in to sell medical services to Malaysian who will travel to Singapore by HSR.
Perhaps you should teach yourself not to speculate on things which you are not familiar.
Please see my response within brackets:
JLD Masterplan is not your childhood masak masak. This is a very comprehensive and ambitious masterplan that has been keeping many government agencies very busy and something which has been spoke about in many of PM Lee speeches.
a) In this context, the "peopleware" you talking about is actually the Software, while the building and infrastructure are the hardware. Please do note use that again because if you are referring to people just say people, dont need to be peopleware. In terms of people, a huge wave of jobs are moving into JLD and you will be able to read about it in the coming MONTHS not years or decade. Beside hardware and software, JLD is also looking into embracing technology to develop JLD into a model energy efficient and high density district which can be use to transplant into other part of Singapore [How can peopleware be software? People are responsive and adaptive to mood swing, etc. They are psycho-social in nature. How come Singaporeans are upset with too many foreigners in their vicinity? Do they feel threaten?...There is a lot of new ideas and technologies applied in JLD and they are pilot projects. JLD is like the guinea pig. It will be implemented island wide if successful. Do you see that foreign partners are putting their money here. Why not as garment. Did you see why MND and URA is not moving but only BCA?]
b) In terms of $, there is no need to second guess how much money have been pump into JLD by both government and private companies. One trip around the JLD you will be able to see what is already buzzing in JLD and a look at the masterplan will tell you what are coming on stream. [Yes, I have mentioned earlier that it will grow but it takes time. Get FH instead of leasehold property. ]
c) Government agency are working hard to transform JLD into world class attraction and this vision has already been mentioned many time by Isawaran and STB who are both responsible for bringing F1 and IR into Singapore. The new science center will be one of them and there are other mega attractions which will be coming soon. [Bro, it is HPL from Ong Beng Seng who brought F1 here but with garment blessing.]
d) NTFH and JCH has a combine of 1100 beds which is similar in size to the NUH and many of the medical suites at Vision Exchange has already been sold at over $3000psf, plus a big dental clinic chain has recently make a very aggressive acquisition into JLD. And that is not going to be end because when HSR is confirmed, rest assure that private healthcare provider will jump in to sell medical services to Malaysian who will travel to Singapore by HSR. [Hospital nearby is good and bad. Remember SARs in 2003. People are staying away from hospital. Imagine ambulance with siren passing your place day in day out. HSR is still questionable?]
Perhaps you should teach yourself not to speculate on things which you are not familiar. [I am just a simple but realistic person]
Please see my response within brackets:
It is half empty or half full, depending on how one wants to see it...
Please see my response within brackets:
[How can peopleware be software? People are responsive and adaptive to mood swing, etc. They are psycho-social in nature. How come Singaporeans are upset with too many foreigners in their vicinity? Do they feel threaten?...There is a lot of new ideas and technologies applied in JLD and they are pilot projects. JLD is like the guinea pig. It will be implemented island wide if successful. Do you see that foreign partners are putting their money here. Why not as garment. Did you see why MND and URA is not moving but only BCA?]
There is no such thing as a PEOPLEWARE in the context to describing human resources in a city. On the other hand Hardware and Software is a common terminology use to describe Infrastructure and human capital respectively. So please stop arguing for the sake of arguing by diverting your talk into what mood swing and human biology.
The only people who actually talk about foreigners in JLD are actually the trolls in this forum, they are not a good representation of Singapore as whole. Is IBM not a foreign company?
[Yes, I have mentioned earlier that it will grow but it takes time. Get FH instead of leasehold property. ]
The discussion is about how much money have been pump into JLD, why are you talking about FH or LH? Off topic again.
[Bro, it is HPL from Ong Beng Seng who brought F1 here but with garment blessing.]
OBS is the one who run the F1 show in Singapore, its the government agencies like STB that pay for the hosting fee. Without STB and Iswaran, F1 will never happen in Singapore regardless if you have 10 or 20 OBS.
[Hospital nearby is good and bad. Remember SARs in 2003. People are staying away from hospital. Imagine ambulance with siren passing your place day in day out. HSR is still questionable?]
This is discussion is about the presence of healthcare facilities compare to Novena, and you are again going off topic to talk about SARS and ambulance
[I am just a simple but realistic person]
Yes you are and thats the reason why you sounded so childish and vulnerable.
I got an island with one place call CBD very expensive.
I ask myself why not make a few more place call CBD and move some of my administration there.
This way I got a few expensive CBD and one very expensive CBD.
Westgate, brand new office building, only fetching 6.5psf/mth?
Somemore can sign 10 yr deal to lock in at this rate?
This is as cheap as any OCR office leasing rate e.g tampines or changi, way cheaper than one-north metropolis or novena.
I thought westgate can fetch 8psf but surprised to see its low pricing
It confirms that office leasing rate gets cheaper as it moves from CCR to RCR to OCR, never mind proclamation of 2nd largest commercial centre.
The residential pricing will reflect in this way too - as memtioned, condo rentals are coming down in jurong. Coupled with Singapore most overpriced OCR valuation at 17xx psf, rental yields of Jgateway will disappoint- astute imvestors beware.
One office building of 300k sq feet is enough to get Mr Ringo so excited.
3million sq feet of office space coming soon in CBD. Should the CCR owners get 10x more excited?
Westgate, brand new office building, only fetching 6.5psf/mth?
Somemore can sign 10 yr deal to lock in at this rate?
This is as cheap as any OCR office leasing rate e.g tampines or changi, way cheaper than one-north metropolis or novena.
I thought westgate can fetch 8psf but surprised to see its low pricing
It confirms that office leasing rate gets cheaper as it moves from CCR to RCR to OCR, never mind proclamation of 2nd largest commercial centre.
The residential pricing will reflect in this way too - as memtioned, condo rentals are coming down in jurong. Coupled with Singapore most overpriced OCR valuation at 17xx psf, rental yields of Jgateway will disappoint- astute imvestors beware.
I am not sure who exactly are you trying to impress with such no head no tail comment.
a) Its pointless to talk about rent psf without factoring in the cost psf. Its as good as saying buying luxury condo for rental investment is good because psf is highest in Singapore.
b) Westgate rent as cheap as Tampines and Changi? Which office tower in those area command $6.5psf rental??
And btw, are you aware the Regulators aka Patrickstar is also vested in Hillview area?
One office building of 300k sq feet is enough to get Mr Ringo so excited.
3million sq feet of office space coming soon in CBD. Should the CCR owners get 10x more excited?
300,000sqft of office space here is referring to Westgate Tower, which is just one of the many development within the JLD.
And here you are using 3,000,000 sq feet of office space coming to CBD to compare with Westgate.
Westgate vs CBD??? Does it even make sense.
Never mind if it doesnt.
Under the JLD masterplan, when completed, JLD will have more than 5,000,000 sqft of office space and
I think any sensible person who are vested around JLD area should be excited.
Again, this is a good example why I say its pointless for troll to operate so many fakes forum accounts when its always
the same nonsense again and again.
Only JEM, Westgate and sim lian building is in pipeline, where is the 5m sq feet of office space? Maybe another 20years in the making?
If JLD office space is so valuable, why Capitaland choose to divest westgate? Why Sim Lian choose to sell the building piece-wise like a MM?
JEM is mostly leased by gov agencies, Sim Lian will be occupied by SMEs given its MM unit strata sale. Very little expat-driven rental demand.
Now, make sense? can you make a head and tail now? If not, just remember Jgateway is Singapore most overpriced OCR at 17xx psf and it will fall in valuation in next few years... astute investors beware
Please stop flipping prata leh....old habit cannot change right? LOL
One office building of 300k sq feet is enough to get Mr Ringo so excited.
3million sq feet of office space coming soon in CBD. Should the CCR owners get 10x more excited?
300,000sqft of office space here is referring to Westgate Tower, which is just one of the many development within the JLD.
And here you are using 3,000,000 sq feet of office space coming to CBD to compare with Westgate.
Westgate vs CBD??? Does it even make sense.
Never mind if it doesnt.
Under the JLD masterplan, when completed, JLD will have more than 5,000,000 sqft of office space and
I think any sensible person who are vested around JLD area should be excited.
Again, this is a good example why I say its pointless for troll to operate so many fakes forum accounts when its always
the same nonsense again and again.
Bro, Still around. Go for a break and have a good night sleep dreaming of Jurong Lake Dream (JLD).
There is no such thing as a PEOPLEWARE in the context to describing human resources in a city. On the other hand Hardware and Software is a common terminology use to describe Infrastructure and human capital respectively. So please stop arguing for the sake of arguing by diverting your talk into what mood swing and human biology.
The only people who actually talk about foreigners in JLD are actually the trolls in this forum, they are not a good representation of Singapore as whole. Is IBM not a foreign company?
The discussion is about how much money have been pump into JLD, why are you talking about FH or LH? Off topic again.
OBS is the one who run the F1 show in Singapore, its the government agencies like STB that pay for the hosting fee. Without STB and Iswaran, F1 will never happen in Singapore regardless if you have 10 or 20 OBS.
This is discussion is about the presence of healthcare facilities compare to Novena, and you are again going off topic to talk about SARS and ambulance
Yes you are and thats the reason why you sounded so childish and vulnerable.
Capitaland could have injected Westgate into its Reits, but choose to sell it? Why?
Sim Lian could have kept the Vision Exchange building for recurring income, but choose to sell it? Why?
Maybe they know what we dont know.
Given its such attractive cheap OCR pricing at 6psf for a Grade A building in the middle of JLD, how come only 60% leased when it is already TOP?
If you believe Ringo glorious western dragon theory, it should have been 100% leased up prior TOP.
Capitaland could have injected Westgate into its Reits, but choose to sell it? Why?
Sim Lian could have kept the Vision Exchange building for recurring income, but choose to sell it? Why?
Maybe they know what we dont know.
Given its such attractive cheap OCR pricing at 6psf for a Grade A building in the middle of JLD, how come only 60% leased when it is already TOP?
If you believe Ringo glorious western dragon theory, it should have been 100% leased up prior TOP.
Regulators could have just stick to one forum account instead of creating so many dummy account talking about the same thing. Why?
And btw, since when has Westgate Tower given the TOP? Are you confusing Westgate Tower with Westgate Shopping Mall?
Like I said before, stop flipping prata in this forum and there is no need to operate so many forum account to troll in this thread.
One office building of 300k sq feet is enough to get Mr Ringo so excited.
3million sq feet of office space coming soon in CBD. Should the CCR owners get 10x more excited?
300,000sqft of office space here is referring to Westgate Tower, which is just one of the many development within the JLD.
And here you are using 3,000,000 sq feet of office space coming to CBD to compare with Westgate.
Westgate vs CBD??? Does it even make sense.
Never mind if it doesnt.
Under the JLD masterplan, when completed, JLD will have more than 5,000,000 sqft of office space and
I think any sensible person who are vested around JLD area should be excited.
Again, this is a good example why I say its pointless for troll to operate so many fakes forum accounts when its always
the same nonsense again and again.
The future of Singapore is now available in JLD.....
SINGAPORE: From Thursday (Oct 23) till Nov 1, you will be able take a ride on driverless buggies at the Chinese and Japanese Gardens as part of the Smart and Connected Jurong Lake District Pilots and Trials initiative.
The Singapore-MIT Alliance for Research and Technology (SMART) will begin deploying two driverless vehicles to ferry the public free of charge. Those interested can book the vehicles via smartnusav.com.
The buggies feature vehicle-to-vehicle communications that will allow each vehicle to sense where the other vehicle is. They are fitted with about S$30,000 worth of technology and can ferry up to three passengers per trip.
The SMART-NUS team aims to fulfil 100 trips within this trial period and will consolidate feedback to improve the driverless mobility experience.
Coming JLD to Marina Bay? Thats massive....BEWARE
SINGAPORE — The planning process for developments in Singapore’s largest commercial and regional district outside the city will be akin to that for the Marina Bay area, said Minister for Culture, Community and Youth Lawrence Wong, who leads the steering committee for Jurong Lake District that was announced yesterday.
While the first phase of these plans — the Jurong Lake Gardens — is expected to be completed in 2017, other developments will take longer, the way the Marina Bay district took well over a decade to develop. “This is not a routine planning process,” said Mr Wong, who was speaking to reporters on the sidelines of Project Blue WaVe, a community event at Jurong Lake yesterday morning. “This will not be a short-term thing … If you look at what we did for Marina Bay, (it) went on for quite a number of years.”
Mr Wong, who is also Member of Parliament for West Coast GRC, added: “Of course the setting here in Jurong Lake District is different, but I think in the same way, what we are planning to do for Jurong Lake District is very much about having conviction and faith in Singapore’s future and thinking about how we can make it even better.”
Planning for the extension of the financial district into Marina Bay began in the late 1990s and culminated with the official opening of Marina Bay Financial Centre last year, capping a series of developments in the area that include Gardens by the Bay.
Announcing the formation of the 14-member steering committee, Deputy Prime Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam, who is also Member of Parliament for Jurong GRC, said the committee would drive and coordinate the developments of the Jurong Lake District. “These are ambitious plans involving many agencies and requiring close partnership with the private sector and community,” he said.
Members of the committee include Mrs Josephine Teo, Senior Minister of State (Finance and Transport), Mr Desmond Lee, Minister of State (National Development), Mr Edmund Cheng, deputy chairman and deputy managing director of Wing Tai Holdings, Dr Shawn Lum, president of Nature Society (Singapore) and Dr Tan Wee Kiat, chief executive officer of Gardens by the Bay.
First announced at this year’s National Day Rally, plans for Jurong Lake District include a new Jurong Lake Gardens created by combining the existing Jurong Lake Park, Japanese and Chinese Gardens. The Gardens will house the new Science Centre and a committee will be formed to oversee this.
Other longer-term plans for the area include better connectivity with a new integrated transport hub at Jurong East MRT Station, upgraded North-South and East-West lines and two new MRT lines. There will also be further road-widening projects to relieve congestion in the Jurong Gateway area.
The future Kuala Lumpur-Singapore High-Speed Rail terminus could be also sited in Jurong.
The challenge, noted Mr Tharman yesterday, is to ensure that the “natural feel and sense of heritage” of the area is retained while injecting life and enabling many more Singaporeans to enjoy the place.
He also announced a new Water-Venture Committee (Jurong Lake) under Project Blue WaVe yesterday, which will not only engage more residents in water and adventure sports, but also facilitate ground-up eco-themed activities and educational programmes.
The committee will also complement development plans in the area by leveraging the grassroots network to better understand and support residents’ needs.
How long does it take to move thousands of people with 3 at a time?
The future of Singapore is now available in JLD.....
The future of Singapore in the form of only 2 driverless vehicles? Maybe in JLD only..
The future of Singapore is now available in JLD.....
Smart and Connected Jurong Lake District (JLD)....the future is near.
Take a ride into the future in free driverless buggies trial at Chinese, Japanese gardens
SINGAPORE - Visitors to the Chinese and Japanese Gardens will be able to take a ride into the future when a trial of two driverless buggies begins on Thursday.
Powered by an electric battery, the modified golf buggies have a top speed of 10km/h, can hold up to three people and use sensors to guide them around pre-programmed pathways. Passengers just click on a control panel to set them in motion.
They will be available to hire for free as part of a week-long trial aimed at generating awareness before they are rolled out as a new means of transport.
It is part of the Smart and Connected Jurong Lake District (JLD) Pilots and Trials Initiative, which was launched by the Infocomm Development Authority of Singapore, in collaboration with other government agencies.
URA : The vision for Jurong Lake District is to be a leading model for Singapore in developing a mixed-use urban district that is sustainable, smart and connected.
SMART and CONNECTED Jurong Lake District
JLD is going to be more high tech than CBD???
BEWARE!!
https://www.ida.gov.sg/~/media/Files/About%20Us/Newsroom/Media%20Releases/2014/0617_smartnation/AnnexC_sn.pdf
SMART and CONNECTED Jurong Lake District
JLD is going to be more high tech than CBD???
BEWARE!!
https://www.ida.gov.sg/~/media/Files/About%20Us/Newsroom/Media%20Releases/2014/0617_smartnation/AnnexC_sn.pdf
9354 beware of deer hunter.
9355
9354 beware of deer hunter.
Only JEM, Westgate and sim lian building is in pipeline, where is the 5m sq feet of office space? Maybe another 20years in the making?
If JLD office space is so valuable, why Capitaland choose to divest westgate? Why Sim Lian choose to sell the building piece-wise like a MM?
JEM is mostly leased by gov agencies, Sim Lian will be occupied by SMEs given its MM unit strata sale. Very little expat-driven rental demand.
Now, make sense? can you make a head and tail now? If not, just remember Jgateway is Singapore most overpriced OCR at 17xx psf and it will fall in valuation in next few years... astute investors beware
Ditto.
Caveat emptor.
Ditto.
Caveat emptor.
Welcome back to condosingapore..
beware
bɪˈwɛː/Submit
verb
be cautious and alert to risks or dangers.
"shoppers were warned to beware of cut-price fakes"
synonyms: be on your guard, watch out, look out, mind out, be wary, be careful, be cautious, be on the lookout, be on the alert, keep your eyes open, keep a sharp lookout, be on the qui vive; take care, take heed, have a care, take it slowly, look where you're going, tread carefully, proceed with caution; informalwatch your step, keep an eye out, keep your eyes peeled/skinned, look before you leap, think twice;
Next time I will ask them LIVE to give us more information about pollution, toxic gases like SO2 etc in the West and Jurong area.........
Smart and Connected Jurong Lake District (JLD)....the future is near.
URA : The vision for Jurong Lake District is to be a leading model for Singapore in developing a mixed-use urban district that is sustainable, smart and connected.
Next time I will ask them LIVE to give us more information about pollution, toxic gases like SO2 etc in the West and Jurong area.........
Your pollution talk is not potent lah. Its like firing blanks during field training.
Beware! Dengue cases are multiplying in the west.
Your pollution talk is not potent lah. Its like firing blanks during field training.
Beware! Dengue cases are multiplying in the west.
Dont degrade yourself.
I only share facts and it is on yesterday's news and today's paper.
Dont degrade yourself.
I only share facts and it is on yesterday's news and today's paper.
When people start talking about pollution dengue Mrt noise and some BS micro macro environment, you better BEWARE.
Something very big must be happening in JLD that is making them feel like they have MTB
When people started singing about how good JLD is, how much potential it has and how it will become the 2nd CBD and how good those are to the prices of property there, BEWARE!
Thing may not be as rosy as they painted, just like Punggol or even Payar Lebar as 2nd CBD in the past!
They must be baiting to sell to the next CARROT HEAD!
When people start talking about pollution dengue Mrt noise and some BS micro macro environment, you better BEWARE.
Something very big must be happening in JLD that is making them feel like they have MTB
When people start talking about pollution dengue Mrt noise and some BS micro macro environment, you better BEWARE.
Something very big must be happening in JLD that is making them feel like they have MTB
Today evening drove pass Teban reservoir, the place as pack as little India, something really big going to happen in the west. This really excites r33. Today very quiet wonder is he celebrating deepavali?
Today evening drove pass Teban reservoir, the place as pack as little India, something really big going to happen in the west. This really excites r33. Today very quiet wonder is he celebrating deepavali?
Empty vessel now want to make fun of skin color? You should be ashamed of yourself. RACIST!!
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
Bewar. more big news coming...
TOKYO: Malaysia will start finalising details with Singapore on the upcoming High Speed Rail (HSR) project in the first quarter of next year.
Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) chairman Tan Sri Syed Hamid Albar said this to Malaysian and Singaporean reporters at the High-Speed Rail Conference 2014 here today.
The conference is held in commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the Tokaido Shinkansen (Tokaido bullet train).
"As far as the feasibility study is concerned, we have submitted it (report)to the (Malaysian) government and they have accepted it. It will go to both the Prime Ministers (of Malaysia and Singapore).
"Two committees have already been established - a technical and a joint ministerial committee," he said.
Singapore is still in the midst of its own feasibility study and is expected to complete it early next year.
Syed Hamid said the government was currently assessing the best HSR system for Malaysia to adopt based on the ones from Europe, China and Japan.
It was not merely the technology that was being studied but the human capital and cultural mindset behind it as well, he added.
On the lack of rail specialists in Malaysia, he said more universities have been offering courses on rail engineering in preparation for the country's changing public transport landscape.
He admitted that the HSR "was a whole new level" in rail technology but assured that local rail engineers would be sent for overseas training once the government had decided the country from which the technology would be sourced from.
Syed Hamid said seven HSR stops have been confirmed on Malaysia's side, namely Kuala Lumpur, Putrajaya, Seremban, Ayer Keroh, Batu Pahat, Muar and Nusajaya. - BERNAMA
BEWARE!!! Big things are coming to the West.
Economists bullish on impact of RM34 bil KL-S'pore rail project
Full article: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=384361:economists-bullish-on-impact-of-rm34-bil-kl-spore-rail-project&Itemid=3#ixzz3Gw3Sk747
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KUALA LUMPUR - The RM38.4 billion Kuala Lumpur-Singapore high-speed rail project should not be seen only as a transportation upgrade but one should also observe the domino effect it would have on both Malaysia and its neighbour.
Economic analyst Hoo Ke Ping said the project, once completed, would benefit both countries and “we would enter a new phase of tourism by having more foreign tourists coming into Malaysia.
“Although the project is concentrated mainly in Johor, neighbouring states, such as Malacca, Negri Sembilan and Kuala Lumpur, would also benefit from it,” he told Business Times yesterday.
“We could expect an increase in property growth as well as other sectors as the result of the rail construction.”
Hoo also dismissed the notion that more Malaysians would be working in Singapore once the project was completed.
“I think quite the opposite will happen. More Singaporeans would be coming over to Malaysia for obvious reasons, such as shopping and a lower currency exchange rate.
“Singapore had already imposed a ruling that businesses could only employ foreigners for jobs offering salaries of more than US$12,000 (RM39,000). So, the speculation is baseless.”
On a related matter, Hoo said with the Kuala Lumpur-Singapore airline route being one of the most profitable course, local carriers should start mulling over other route possibilities.
“Maybe local airline companies, such as Malaysia Airlines and AirAsia, should strategise to find replaceable routes that could bring in as much profit as the Kuala Lumpur-Singapore route.”
An economist, who wished to remain anonymous, said the impact of such a project would be good in terms of connectivity between Singapore, a developed economy, and Malaysia, a fast developing economy, which, in turn, would spur growth in both countries.
“Singapore is a financial epicentre, and since Malaysia aspires to be an Islamic financial hub, the improved connectivity should ease networking and the allocation of resources between the two countries.
“The multiple stops in the rail link would also accelerate local businesses at nearby areas.” -NST
Decision on the location of HSR station is in Singapore court. It will come in from second link.
Track alignment for high-speed link finalised
23 OCTOBER 2014 @ 8:20 AM
JOHOR BARU: Johor has finalised the track alignment of the high-speed rail link project connecting Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.
State Public Works, Rural and Regional Development Committee chairman Datuk Hasni Mohammad told the New Straits Times that the track would run on the western side of the North-South Expressway whereas KTM Berhad’s track would run on
the eastern side of the expressway.
He said in Johor, the transit stations would be located between Sungai Mati and Bukit Pasir in Muar, Ayer Hitam in Batu Pahat and Nusajaya in Iskandar Malaysia before running across the Johor Straits through the Second Link to Singapore.
The Nusajaya stop, Hasni added, was quite close to the Second Link Expressway in Tanjung Kupang, enabling the track to run parallel with the Second Link when crossing over the straits into the city-state.“The track alignment is expected to be the main agenda to be discussed during the 11th Malaysia-Singapore Joint Ministerial Committee meeting to be held next month.”
Hasni said the Transport Ministry had already completed its final stage of discussion with stakeholders in Johor, such as the land office, local authorities and district offices, as well as non-governmental organisations.
“One will notice that the track will avoid passing by big cities in Johor. However, all stations would have feeder buses to the nearest cities or towns.
“We will try to avoid passing by private land to minimise land acquisitions.
“At the Nusajaya station, it will be linked to the central business district in Johor Baru and vice versa by transit coaches and existing public transport.”
Hasni said it had not been decided whether there would be direct service between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.
Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak and Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong jointly announced the 330km project in February last year, which is set to change the land transportation landscape between the two capital cities.
According to transport industry players, the project is expected to affect the shuttle flight service between Changi Airport and the Kuala Lumpur International Airport or Klia2, depending on its fare structure.
This is in view that it may be faster to travel between the two cities by high-speed rail, taking into consideration the time it takes to travel to the airport, the wait before the flight, as well as flight times.
Location of the last Malaysia station in Johor.
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Location of last HSR staton in Malaysia (Johor).
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Location of last HSR staton in Malaysia (Johor).
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what a disapointment for Ringo33.
what a disapointment for Ringo33.
Do you even understand the meaning of last HSR station in Malaysia
Like i said many times before, dont waste time commenting on things which you are clueless.
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
I hope Singapore would not be building a white elephant for Singapreans and facilitate Malaysians to come to steal jobs from Singaporeans while they go home every evening to live in Johor or even Malacca!
Decision on the location of HSR station is in Singapore court. It will come in from second link.
Track alignment for high-speed link finalised
23 OCTOBER 2014 @ 8:20 AM
JOHOR BARU: Johor has finalised the track alignment of the high-speed rail link project connecting Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.
State Public Works, Rural and Regional Development Committee chairman Datuk Hasni Mohammad told the New Straits Times that the track would run on the western side of the North-South Expressway whereas KTM Berhad’s track would run on
the eastern side of the expressway.
He said in Johor, the transit stations would be located between Sungai Mati and Bukit Pasir in Muar, Ayer Hitam in Batu Pahat and Nusajaya in Iskandar Malaysia before running across the Johor Straits through the Second Link to Singapore.
The Nusajaya stop, Hasni added, was quite close to the Second Link Expressway in Tanjung Kupang, enabling the track to run parallel with the Second Link when crossing over the straits into the city-state.“The track alignment is expected to be the main agenda to be discussed during the 11th Malaysia-Singapore Joint Ministerial Committee meeting to be held next month.”
Hasni said the Transport Ministry had already completed its final stage of discussion with stakeholders in Johor, such as the land office, local authorities and district offices, as well as non-governmental organisations.
“One will notice that the track will avoid passing by big cities in Johor. However, all stations would have feeder buses to the nearest cities or towns.
“We will try to avoid passing by private land to minimise land acquisitions.
“At the Nusajaya station, it will be linked to the central business district in Johor Baru and vice versa by transit coaches and existing public transport.”
Hasni said it had not been decided whether there would be direct service between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.
Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak and Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong jointly announced the 330km project in February last year, which is set to change the land transportation landscape between the two capital cities.
According to transport industry players, the project is expected to affect the shuttle flight service between Changi Airport and the Kuala Lumpur International Airport or Klia2, depending on its fare structure.
This is in view that it may be faster to travel between the two cities by high-speed rail, taking into consideration the time it takes to travel to the airport, the wait before the flight, as well as flight times.
I hope Singapore would not be building a white elephant for Singapreans and facilitate Malaysians to come to steal jobs from Singaporeans while they go home every evening to live in Johor or even Malacca!
a) Is there any reason why Johorian would want to take HSR instead of their motobike?
b) Do you want to make a guess how much will it cost to take HSR from say Melacca to Singapore? last i was told that it will cost about the same as budget airline from KL to Singapore. So do you think that Malaysia can afford to spend $100 everyday to commute to work?
We say many times already.
People bought Jurong MM for $1,7xx +- then realised Bishan/Thomson selling SAME OR LOWER PRICE !!!
OMG! So no choice have to do 24/7 damaged control.
But I dont know what is the objective ? Since nobody will sell now and cause the valuation to fall back to it's righful amount, which maybe just $1,4xx...
Jurong MM same or higher price than Bishan/Thomson MM.
That is the root cause.
DKSG
Let's say Parc Oasis leasehold.. the 23-yrs old.. now max. at $800-$1000psf..
And new launch at OCR 99-yr leasehold sold to carrothead at $1500-$1700psf..
So after 23-yrs.. new launch OCR 99-yr leasehold can reach $3000psf??
BEWARE!!!!!
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Let's say Parc Oasis leasehold.. the 23-yrs old.. now max. at $800-$1000psf..
And new launch at OCR 99-yr leasehold sold to carrothead at $1500-$1700psf..
So after 23-yrs.. new launch OCR 99-yr leasehold can reach $3000psf??
look at it this way
when PO was launched it was around 400kplus to 500k
if bought for investment with a 10% down payment
with a 15 years loan
the loan would have been paid off from the rental collected
therefore the last 6 to 7 years, PO generating passive income from rental
Let's say Parc Oasis leasehold.. the 23-yrs old.. now max. at $800-$1000psf..
And new launch at OCR 99-yr leasehold sold to carrothead at $1500-$1700psf..
So after 23-yrs.. new launch OCR 99-yr leasehold can reach $3000psf??
BEWARE....Dont let the troll fool you with wrong information. There is no OCR condo in Singapore that is selling at $1500 to $1700psf...YET....
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AssetRichMoneyPoor
25-10-14, 15:12
People are already so tired of your ranting and raving in the west.
Patrickstar, sunrise, DCC already can't be bothered with your idiosyncratic postings.
Only you are blind to see it
People are already so tired of your ranting and raving in the west.
Patrickstar, sunrise, DCC already can't be bothered with your idiosyncratic postings.
Only you are blind to see it
If you are tired, you should stop clicking on this thread.
You have been caught (see below link) Just quit the forum and bring all your SPERM talk with you.
And as you have seen the poll, majority of those who poll is in favor of you being banned from this forum. (see link)
Which mean, your vulgarity and hostility contribution to this forum is NOT WELCOME.
So please do me a favor, STOP posting in this thread.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/18201-Owners-in-the-West-beware!!/page1027?p=491933#post491933
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/22611-Should-Patrickstar-be-ban-from-this-forum
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BEWARE....Dont let the troll fool you with wrong information. There is no OCR condo in Singapore that is selling at $1500 to $1700psf...YET....
Wow!! Really got CARROT HEAD paid $1600 to $1700psf for OCR condo!!! Somemore 99-yrs leasehold only!!! :emmersed:
9534
Wow!! Really got CARROT HEAD paid $1600 to $1700psf for OCR condo!!! Somemore 99-yrs leasehold only!!! :emmersed:
9534
You dont need to keep repeating yourself. We already know the truth.
Let's say Parc Oasis leasehold.. the 23-yrs old.. now max. at $800-$1000psf..
And new launch at OCR 99-yr leasehold sold to carrothead at $1500-$1700psf..
So after 23-yrs.. new launch OCR 99-yr leasehold can reach $3000psf??
BEWARE....Dont let the troll fool you with wrong information. There is no OCR condo in Singapore that is selling at $1500 to $1700psf...YET....
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/299x439q90/r/538/FMgrNg.jpg
You dont need to keep repeating yourself. We already know the truth.
BEWARE....Dont let the troll fool you with wrong information. There is no OCR condo in Singapore that is selling at $1500 to $1700psf...YET....
Everyone already know the truth.. got CARROT HEAD paid for $1600 to $1700psf for OCR condo leasehold from developer.. Later will try their luck of put it into resale market asking for $1500 to $1700psf????
How come I don't know?? :beats-me-man:
9534
Everyone already know the truth.. got CARROT HEAD paid for $1600 to $1700psf for OCR condo leasehold from developer.. Later will try their luck of put it into resale market asking for $1500 to $1700psf????
How come I don't know?? :beats-me-man:
9534
Stop making up story to amused yourself. We already know the truth.
Let's say Parc Oasis leasehold.. the 23-yrs old.. now max. at $800-$1000psf..
And new launch at OCR 99-yr leasehold sold to carrothead at $1500-$1700psf..
So after 23-yrs.. new launch OCR 99-yr leasehold can reach $3000psf??
BEWARE....Dont let the troll fool you with wrong information. There is no OCR condo in Singapore that is selling at $1500 to $1700psf...YET....
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/299x439q90/r/538/FMgrNg.jpg
What kind of lie is that????
Project Name
Street Name
Type
Postal
District
Market
Segment
Tenure
No. of
Units
Price
($)
Area
(Sqft)1
Type of
Area2
Floor Level
Unit Price
($psf)3
Date of Option
Exercised / Sales
Agreement Signed
J GATEWAY GATEWAY DRIVE Condominium 22 OCR 99 yrs lease commencing from 2012 1 1,194,300 710 Strata 31 to 35 S$1,681 Sep-13
J GATEWAY GATEWAY DRIVE Condominium 22 OCR 99 yrs lease commencing from 2012 1 854,700 495 Strata 31 to 35 S$1,726 Sep-13
You dont need to keep repeating yourself. We already know the truth.
BEWARE....Dont let the troll fool you with wrong information. There is no OCR condo in Singapore that is selling at $1500 to $1700psf...YET....
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/299x439q90/r/538/FMgrNg.jpg
J Gateway average price is $1487.50psf so go figure who is lying.
while you are free you can also see how LH property price appreciate over time.
Ringo ah, I think you should get them to check out the transacted prices for Seahill, Centro Residences, Midtown Residences, Urban Vista, Hillion Residences and many other 99LH OCR projects. They will get a shock. By their definition, all are carrot heads liao.......hahahaha
Everyone already know the truth.. got CARROT HEAD paid for $1600 to $1700psf for OCR condo leasehold from developer.. Later will try their luck of put it into resale market asking for $1500 to $1700psf????
How come I don't know?? :beats-me-man:
9534
Stop making up story to amused yourself. We already know the truth.
BEWARE....Dont let the troll fool you with wrong information. There is no OCR condo in Singapore that is selling at $1500 to $1700psf...YET....
Oh! So is confirmed that everyone here already know the truth.. That really got CARROT HEAD paid for $1600 to $1700psf for OCR leasehold condo units to buy from the developer..
And from your info, later these CARROT HEAD with try their very best to sell their units in the resale mkt at $1500 to $1700..
Thanks for your quick confirmation! :cool:
BEWARE!!!
The planning process for developments in Singapore’s largest commercial and regional district outside the city will be akin to that for the Marina Bay area, said Minister for Culture, Community and Youth Lawrence Wong
akin : similar or related
AssetRichMoneyPoor
26-10-14, 06:41
BEWARE!!!
akin : similar or related
IMH referral case. 4am don't sleep still online to post this.
BEWARE!!!
akin : similar or related
Owners, beware of unsound neighbor.
IMH referral case. 4am don't sleep still online to post this.
Unfortunately some layman who claim to know this and that doesnt even know what EC is all about.
i've mentioned before lake life take up will be healthy due to shortage of EC for many years. These are pure upgraders not investors/speculators per say.
Unfortunately some layman also like to brag that he has got ESP to know when MND or MOF will announce cooling measure. As for J Gateway, we all know that the project was launch on the working Friday and the entire project were pretty much fully sold before CM announcement on the same day evening.
Totally unlike J Gateway sold out due herd mentality (imminent announcement of another CM, fear of being left out further and took the plunge).
When someone has got a brain of a sheep, you better BEWARE!
AssetRichMoneyPoor
26-10-14, 13:47
Quote/unquote, copy and paste all you want. You do not have good grasp of English language and poor diction interpretation is something I can't help.
However it's obvious you suffer from lunacy and I can recommend IMH for you.
In totality, you are one holed up lunatic individual.
Quote/unquote, copy and paste all you want. You do not have good grasp of English language and poor diction interpretation is something I can't help.
However it's obvious you suffer from lunacy and I can recommend IMH for you.
In totality, you are one holed up lunatic individual.
Obviously you cant even tell the difference between first timer and upgraders despite your desperate attempt to brag about knowing this and that.
From 2 March 2012, the developers will set aside 70% of the supply for first-timers during the initial launch period.
i've mentioned before lake life take up will be healthy due to shortage of EC for many years. These are pure upgraders not investors/speculators per say.
Unfortunately some layman also like to brag that he has got ESP to know when MND or MOF will announce cooling measure. As for J Gateway, we all know that the project was launch on the working Friday and the entire project were pretty much fully sold before CM announcement on the same day evening.
Totally unlike J Gateway sold out due herd mentality (imminent announcement of another CM, fear of being left out further and took the plunge).
clemdale24
26-10-14, 14:50
oh god the longer this thread goes on the more sorry i feel for J gateway buyers.
what a poor decision! they will live to regret it. if jurong one day hits 1700psf as a norm, RCR and CCR investors will huat even more than them.
bad bad bad decision by them... orbigood :D:D
im young. ive got many many more 10 years in my life. i think i will live to see that day.
oh god the longer this thread goes on the more sorry i feel for J gateway buyers.
what a poor decision! they will live to regret it. if jurong one day hits 1700psf as a norm, RCR and CCR investors will huat even more than them.
bad bad bad decision by them... orbigood :D:D
im young. ive got many many more 10 years in my life. i think i will live to see that day.
You sounded like a office boy
...As for J Gateway, we all know that the project was launch on the working Friday and the entire project were pretty much fully sold before CM announcement on the same day!
Last time one sifu advised me.. After a few years of bull run & when you started to see auntie/uncle rushing in (even is weekdays) to buy... That's a good indication to sell & not buy
No wonder J-Gateway is the project which had given that clear indication :concern: Coz thereafter pty price began to go down..
9 out of 10 times those have long queue & 1 day sell out one mostly will lose money because market in euphoria
Last time one sifu advised me.. After a few years of bull run & when you started to see auntie/uncle rushing in (even is weekdays) to buy... That's a good indication to sell & not buy
No wonder J-Gateway is the project which had given that clear indication :concern: Coz thereafter pty price began to go down..
When our ministers start comparing JLD to Marina Bay you will need to pay attention.
The planning process for developments in Singapore’s largest commercial and regional district outside the city will be akin to that for the Marina Bay area, said Minister for Culture, Community and Youth Lawrence Wong
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/299x439q90/r/674/UxXAwa.jpg
They also compare Punggol Waterfront supposed to be even better than East Coast wah, never see Punggol property prices become more expensive than East Coast??????
When our ministers start comparing JLD to Marina Bay you will need to pay attention.
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/299x439q90/r/674/UxXAwa.jpg
Wah someone from this forum register a forum account using ringo33 and post nonsence in sky scraper city forum.
This must be the same person who registered nultiple fake forum account to troll in this forum.
What a loser
Wah someone from this forum register a forum account using ringo33 and post nonsence in sky scraper city forum.
This must be the same person who registered nultiple fake forum account to troll in this forum.
What a loser
if that the case you have to beware!
HSR to start service only in 2022 or 2023?
It may take even longer judging from Malaysia airport episode
Malaysia’s Land Public Transport Commission Chairman Syed Hamid Albar said completion of a high-speed rail link between KL and Singapore may take 6-7 years once construction starts by 2016, finishing two to three years later than the 2020 deadline announced earlier. The project will use government land as much as possible to avoid property- acquisition disputes. The high- speed rail may operate four times hourly with two services, one non-stop and the other that will transit cities and towns in four Malaysian states.
Selling price of lakelife lower than expected
857psf JLD EC vs 17xx psf JLD condo . A EC psf that is less than half price of Jgateway !!
No other district has such wide differentials between new EC and new condo...
Beware!
SINGAPORE — Lake Life, the first executive condominium (EC) offering in Jurong in 17 years, has been priced at an average of S$857 per square foot (psf) for the 546-unit project, well below the indicative pricing as its developers seek to secure demand amid stricter financing rules.
The consortium of developers led by Evia Real Estate had earlier said units at Lake Life EC could be priced at S$880psf to S$890psf amid strong interest in the project. However, after analysing the profiles of its 1,853 e-applicants — a record high for an EC development — it found that the purchasing ability of the potential buyers was lower than expected.
“Most developers would target at least a 10 per cent margin, but then today we have the MSR (Mortgage Servicing Ratio), and looking at the buyers’ income levels and ability to borrow, I’m very reluctant to cross S$1.1 million for most units,” Evia’s managing partner Vincent Ong said yesterday.
“There’s also the risk that there’s still a lot of stock in the market — for private units, BTO (Build-to-Order) flats and ECs. I could have taken the position to price higher after receiving a record number of applications, but after our calculations, we have to price with buyers’ affordability in mind,” he added.
Mr Ong said the price level translates to a margin of around 6 per cent. The consortium paid S$272.84 million in July last year for the 217,298 sq ft site at Yuan Ching Road/Tao Ching Road that Lake Life sits on. At around S$418 psf per plot ratio, it is the most expensive EC land to date.
Several months after the record bid, the government announced in December last year that EC purchases would be subject to the 30 per cent MSR cap, a rule that many property analysts said would hit demand for the hybrid public-private homes.
Lake Life’s show flats will open tomorrow and Mr Ong hopes to secure buyers for at least half of the units on offer this weekend.
“While Lake Life is on the higher end of the spectrum, its lower selling price as compared to that of a private condominium means buyers will stand to reap even more returns in the future when taking into account the anticipated appreciation in market value when the EC is fully privatised,” he said.
This has got nothing to do with JLD, it has got to do with the holding power of developer. What this mean is that buyer who buy this project is going to HUAT when they complete the 5 years MOP.
Really? You give them GUARANTEE that they will HUAT when they complete the 5 years MOP?
Let's see, after complete 5 years MOP means some time in 2022, wah lau!
By then, the govt's focus is now on developing some other "regional CBDs", like example Woodlands, or Changi ! People and the MEDIA will be talking and blowing trumpet and how much people will HUAT and how the QUALITY of life will be by "investing" in WLD, CLD, who will still remember JLD??? :scared-3:
This has got nothing to do with JLD, it has got to do with the holding power of developer. What this mean is that buyer who buy this project is going to HUAT when they complete the 5 years MOP.
Really? You give them GUARANTEE that they will HUAT when they complete the 5 years MOP?
Let's see, after complete 5 years MOP means some time in 2022, wah lau!
By then, the govt's focus is now on developing some other "regional CBDs", like example Woodlands, or Changi ! People and the MEDIA will be talking and blowing trumpet and how much people will HUAT and how the QUALITY of life will be by "investing" in WLD, CLD, who will still remember JLD??? :scared-3:
Before that....
As we all know, OCR private condos are seriously OVER-PRICED!
should see JGateway drop another 20-30% below $1400 psf in next 2-3 years!
Maybe they worried those who are interested may not be able to get loan if it is $psf is higher. It could also be a marketing gimmick to drop price just before sale commences.
Selling price of lakelife lower than expected
857psf JLD EC vs 17xx psf JLD condo . A EC psf that is less than half price of Jgateway !!
No other district has such wide differentials between new EC and new condo...
Beware!
SINGAPORE — Lake Life, the first executive condominium (EC) offering in Jurong in 17 years, has been priced at an average of S$857 per square foot (psf) for the 546-unit project, well below the indicative pricing as its developers seek to secure demand amid stricter financing rules.
The consortium of developers led by Evia Real Estate had earlier said units at Lake Life EC could be priced at S$880psf to S$890psf amid strong interest in the project. However, after analysing the profiles of its 1,853 e-applicants — a record high for an EC development — it found that the purchasing ability of the potential buyers was lower than expected.
“Most developers would target at least a 10 per cent margin, but then today we have the MSR (Mortgage Servicing Ratio), and looking at the buyers’ income levels and ability to borrow, I’m very reluctant to cross S$1.1 million for most units,” Evia’s managing partner Vincent Ong said yesterday.
“There’s also the risk that there’s still a lot of stock in the market — for private units, BTO (Build-to-Order) flats and ECs. I could have taken the position to price higher after receiving a record number of applications, but after our calculations, we have to price with buyers’ affordability in mind,” he added.
Mr Ong said the price level translates to a margin of around 6 per cent. The consortium paid S$272.84 million in July last year for the 217,298 sq ft site at Yuan Ching Road/Tao Ching Road that Lake Life sits on. At around S$418 psf per plot ratio, it is the most expensive EC land to date.
Several months after the record bid, the government announced in December last year that EC purchases would be subject to the 30 per cent MSR cap, a rule that many property analysts said would hit demand for the hybrid public-private homes.
Lake Life’s show flats will open tomorrow and Mr Ong hopes to secure buyers for at least half of the units on offer this weekend.
“While Lake Life is on the higher end of the spectrum, its lower selling price as compared to that of a private condominium means buyers will stand to reap even more returns in the future when taking into account the anticipated appreciation in market value when the EC is fully privatised,” he said.
AssetRichMoneyPoor
31-10-14, 12:50
HSR to start service only in 2022 or 2023?
It may take even longer judging from Malaysia airport episode
Malaysia’s Land Public Transport Commission Chairman Syed Hamid Albar said completion of a high-speed rail link between KL and Singapore may take 6-7 years once construction starts by 2016, finishing two to three years later than the 2020 deadline announced earlier. The project will use government land as much as possible to avoid property- acquisition disputes. The high- speed rail may operate four times hourly with two services, one non-stop and the other that will transit cities and towns in four Malaysian states.
When we talk about Malaysia government land development and oil&gas production, we always talk about budget burst and project delay.
With HSR, it's no surprise. It is still a good addition thou. Concentration in the west can take HSR while concentration in the east can take flights.
AssetRichMoneyPoor
31-10-14, 12:53
Selling price of lakelife lower than expected
857psf JLD EC vs 17xx psf JLD condo . A EC psf that is less than half price of Jgateway !!
No other district has such wide differentials between new EC and new condo...
Beware!
SINGAPORE — Lake Life, the first executive condominium (EC) offering in Jurong in 17 years, has been priced at an average of S$857 per square foot (psf) for the 546-unit project, well below the indicative pricing as its developers seek to secure demand amid stricter financing rules.
The consortium of developers led by Evia Real Estate had earlier said units at Lake Life EC could be priced at S$880psf to S$890psf amid strong interest in the project. However, after analysing the profiles of its 1,853 e-applicants — a record high for an EC development — it found that the purchasing ability of the potential buyers was lower than expected.
“Most developers would target at least a 10 per cent margin, but then today we have the MSR (Mortgage Servicing Ratio), and looking at the buyers’ income levels and ability to borrow, I’m very reluctant to cross S$1.1 million for most units,” Evia’s managing partner Vincent Ong said yesterday.
“There’s also the risk that there’s still a lot of stock in the market — for private units, BTO (Build-to-Order) flats and ECs. I could have taken the position to price higher after receiving a record number of applications, but after our calculations, we have to price with buyers’ affordability in mind,” he added.
Mr Ong said the price level translates to a margin of around 6 per cent. The consortium paid S$272.84 million in July last year for the 217,298 sq ft site at Yuan Ching Road/Tao Ching Road that Lake Life sits on. At around S$418 psf per plot ratio, it is the most expensive EC land to date.
Several months after the record bid, the government announced in December last year that EC purchases would be subject to the 30 per cent MSR cap, a rule that many property analysts said would hit demand for the hybrid public-private homes.
Lake Life’s show flats will open tomorrow and Mr Ong hopes to secure buyers for at least half of the units on offer this weekend.
“While Lake Life is on the higher end of the spectrum, its lower selling price as compared to that of a private condominium means buyers will stand to reap even more returns in the future when taking into account the anticipated appreciation in market value when the EC is fully privatised,” he said.
Lakelife avg price 850psf
Lakeville avg price 1200psf
J Gate ave price 1500psf
all are just 99 year condominiums, different regulations but the same after 10 years.
The truth is out there, i feel the most for one particular set of buyers.
http://m.stproperty.sg/property-news-details/spw-insights/what-are-the-hdb-estates-with-the-cheapest-flats-near-mrt-stations/a/186347
In HDB market, Jurong east HDB flats psf is one of the low end among Singapore HDB district, even lower than punggol
In Condo market, Jgateway is one of the most expensive OCR condo ever launched in Singapore history.
Serious mispricing here.... if JLD is so enticing, all Jurong real estate market will reprice higher, irregardless of HDB, EC or Condo.
Not so. Jgateway valuation is like a sore thumb sticking out.... astute investors beware
http://m.stproperty.sg/property-news-details/spw-insights/what-are-the-hdb-estates-with-the-cheapest-flats-near-mrt-stations/a/186347
In HDB market, Jurong east HDB flats psf is one of the low end among Singapore HDB district, even lower than punggol
In Condo market, Jgateway is one of the most expensive OCR condo ever launched in Singapore history.
Serious mispricing here.... if JLD is so enticing, all Jurong real estate market will reprice higher, irregardless of HDB, EC or Condo.
Not so. Jgateway valuation is like a sore thumb sticking out.... astute investors beware
HDB surrounding JE MRT station are all over 25-30 years old while those in punggol are mostly new.
If you want to know what newer HDB flat near JE MRT cost, go check out Toh Guan. many are selling >$500psf.
http://www.stproperty.sg/view/hdb-directory/286c-toh-guan-road-603286/view-price-trend-analysis/transactions/21696813
HDB surrounding JE MRT station are all over 25-30 years old while those in punggol are mostly new.
If you want to know what newer HDB flat near JE MRT cost, go check out Toh Guan. many are selling >$500psf.
http://www.stproperty.sg/view/hdb-directory/286c-toh-guan-road-603286/view-price-trend-analysis/transactions/21696813
What talking u? HDB flats in marine parade are equally old if not older n yet they are still selling @ premium prices...
Regardless of how old the HDB flats, if it's in good location, people will still buy @ premium prices..
What talking u? HDB flats in marine parade are equally old if not older n yet they are still selling @ premium prices...
Regardless of how old the HDB flats, if it's in good location, people will still buy @ premium prices..
a) Would a new HDB flat in Marine Parade cost more than the old one?
b) Have you not read the below comparison before "what talking you"?
In HDB market, Jurong east HDB flats psf is one of the low end among Singapore HDB district, even lower than punggol
a) Would a new HDB flat in Marine Parade cost more than the old one?
b) Have you not read the below comparison before "what talking you"?
I was talking about a 30yr old HDB flat in marine parade compared to a 30yr old HDB in jurong..
GET IT?
I was talking about a 30yr old HDB flat in marine parade compared to a 30yr old HDB in jurong..
GET IT?
I was talking about 30 years old Jurong East HDB vs 10 years old Punggol flat. GET IT?
More and more foreign workers housed in Jurong dorms... Huat for the dormitory operators!
As the sun sets on Tuas, a remote area in a remote industrial estate gets busy.
Male workers clad in T-shirts or overalls stained with mud and grime get off covered lorries and file into factory buildings.
They are not reporting for work but going home after calling it a day at shipyards and construction sites all over Singapore.
Welcome to Tuas View Square, a 500m stretch of road where more than 10 factories have been refurbished into dormitories for foreign workers. It has become a kind of mini dormitory town and a home away from home to more than 5,000 workers, mainly from India and Bangladesh. It's almost a little Little India.
About five years ago, the scene at sunset would have been one of workers from Singapore and Malaysia filing out of the factories in casual attire after changing out of grey, white and blue uniforms.
Then, factories owned by multinational companies churned out goods like electronic parts and chemicals, said shopkeepers in the area.
But as companies relocated to cheaper locations overseas, the factories were turned into dorms by construction and marine firms over the last five years.
There are about 700 factory-converted dorms for foreign workers in industrial estates across Singapore. They house an estimated 100,000 or more foreign workers - about 25 per cent of the work permit holders in lower-skilled jobs in sectors such as construction and marine.
This dorm town in Tuas View Square, where Singapore's largest rubbish incinerator is in sight, is as far from anyone's backyard as can be. While barbed wire on fences or gantries remain, the security measures are unnecessary: Hardly anyone from outside visits.
In the evenings, some denizens of this nearly all-male town - there are only a handful of women, mainly shopkeepers - sit cross-legged on roadside kerbs to chat and drink beer.
The men, some clad in shirts and sarongs, also go on bicycles to visit friends in other dorms.
"I like the quiet," said an Indian shipyard worker. "I am around languages and people I know."
Some dorms have canteens where curries and rice are served round the clock; others house mini-marts and phone shops.
Some Singaporeans do brisk business here selling groceries and mobile phone cards. Mr Jonathan Koh, who is in his late 30s, said each night he and his two staff serve a few hundred workers, who spend $20 to $30 each to top up their phone cards.
"Business is quite good. There are few mobile phone shops here and it takes too long for the workers to travel outside," he said.
Dorm operators have had good business too. A bed in dorms here now costs around $250 a month per worker, up from $100 to $150 five years ago, say employers.
While the area has a relaxed atmosphere, the conditions in the factory dorms are not as good as those in purpose-built dorms, which cost more and have better facilities.
There is an obvious lack of recreational facilities, an issue also raised by a committee that looked into the Dec 8 Little India riots.
A Malaysian who works for a drinks company in Tuas View Square said: "The workers spend most of their free time sitting outside the dorms. There should be sports facilities for them."
Mr K. Ganesh, 49, who runs a mini-mart and canteen, said every night, hundreds of workers come by to buy a few cans of beer each. They munch on murukku as they watch old Tamil movies on large screens. "The workers do hard work. They have a few cans of beer to relax," he said.
The Straits Times wanted to go inside the rooms, but a few owners of the buildings in Tuas View Square declined requests to visit.
Some of the dorms look neat and clean from the outside. However, most of the factory-converted premises appear cramped.
Rows of damp uniforms hang on dusty window louvres. Some windows are boarded up, others show double-decker beds.
Of 20 workers interviewed, only a few said their living areas were clean. Most complained of filth. There are rats, ants and mosquitoes in their rooms, said the men. The pests are drawn to the food left around as there are no storage areas or refrigerators.
A Bangladeshi worker said: "The rats bite our feet when we sleep at night. We set up rat traps but haven't caught any so far."
Another worker said: "My home in India is much cleaner."
Others are frustrated by the lack of toilets, which often get choked. "We have to wait for more than an hour every night and in the morning to use the toilet," said a worker from India.
Some of the dorms have kitchens, which the men say are dirty most of the time. Cleaners wash the dorms infrequently.
But it's not all bad.
While this dormitory town is far from residential areas, it is near workplaces such as the shipyards in Jurong.
[email protected]
[email protected]
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/more-singapore-stories/story/tuas-view-square-home-away-home-foreign-workers-20141031#sthash.c7l4Lkdh.dpuf
I was talking about 30 years old Jurong East HDB vs 10 years old Punggol flat. GET IT?
30yrs old hdb flat in jurong resale price vs 30yrs old hdb flat in marine parade ...this is a no brainer as to which will command a much higher resale price !
30yrs old hdb flat in jurong resale price vs 30yrs old hdb flat in marine parade ...this is a no brainer as to which will command a much higher resale price !
I know, its like comparing Jurong condo to Nassim, CCR vs RCR vs OCR. Then again, who doesnt know. You think you smart? Or just pointlessly childish?
When forummer start making racist and degrading remarks about foreigners who help build this country, you need to BEWARE.
As the saying goes, leopard will not change it spot regardless of which forum account they use.
More and more foreign workers housed in Jurong dorms... Huat for the dormitory operators!
As the sun sets on Tuas, a remote area in a remote industrial estate gets busy.
Male workers clad in T-shirts or overalls stained with mud and grime get off covered lorries and file into factory buildings.
They are not reporting for work but going home after calling it a day at shipyards and construction sites all over Singapore.
Welcome to Tuas View Square, a 500m stretch of road where more than 10 factories have been refurbished into dormitories for foreign workers. It has become a kind of mini dormitory town and a home away from home to more than 5,000 workers, mainly from India and Bangladesh. It's almost a little Little India.
About five years ago, the scene at sunset would have been one of workers from Singapore and Malaysia filing out of the factories in casual attire after changing out of grey, white and blue uniforms.
Then, factories owned by multinational companies churned out goods like electronic parts and chemicals, said shopkeepers in the area.
But as companies relocated to cheaper locations overseas, the factories were turned into dorms by construction and marine firms over the last five years.
There are about 700 factory-converted dorms for foreign workers in industrial estates across Singapore. They house an estimated 100,000 or more foreign workers - about 25 per cent of the work permit holders in lower-skilled jobs in sectors such as construction and marine.
This dorm town in Tuas View Square, where Singapore's largest rubbish incinerator is in sight, is as far from anyone's backyard as can be. While barbed wire on fences or gantries remain, the security measures are unnecessary: Hardly anyone from outside visits.
In the evenings, some denizens of this nearly all-male town - there are only a handful of women, mainly shopkeepers - sit cross-legged on roadside kerbs to chat and drink beer.
The men, some clad in shirts and sarongs, also go on bicycles to visit friends in other dorms.
"I like the quiet," said an Indian shipyard worker. "I am around languages and people I know."
Some dorms have canteens where curries and rice are served round the clock; others house mini-marts and phone shops.
Some Singaporeans do brisk business here selling groceries and mobile phone cards. Mr Jonathan Koh, who is in his late 30s, said each night he and his two staff serve a few hundred workers, who spend $20 to $30 each to top up their phone cards.
"Business is quite good. There are few mobile phone shops here and it takes too long for the workers to travel outside," he said.
Dorm operators have had good business too. A bed in dorms here now costs around $250 a month per worker, up from $100 to $150 five years ago, say employers.
While the area has a relaxed atmosphere, the conditions in the factory dorms are not as good as those in purpose-built dorms, which cost more and have better facilities.
There is an obvious lack of recreational facilities, an issue also raised by a committee that looked into the Dec 8 Little India riots.
A Malaysian who works for a drinks company in Tuas View Square said: "The workers spend most of their free time sitting outside the dorms. There should be sports facilities for them."
Mr K. Ganesh, 49, who runs a mini-mart and canteen, said every night, hundreds of workers come by to buy a few cans of beer each. They munch on murukku as they watch old Tamil movies on large screens. "The workers do hard work. They have a few cans of beer to relax," he said.
The Straits Times wanted to go inside the rooms, but a few owners of the buildings in Tuas View Square declined requests to visit.
Some of the dorms look neat and clean from the outside. However, most of the factory-converted premises appear cramped.
Rows of damp uniforms hang on dusty window louvres. Some windows are boarded up, others show double-decker beds.
Of 20 workers interviewed, only a few said their living areas were clean. Most complained of filth. There are rats, ants and mosquitoes in their rooms, said the men. The pests are drawn to the food left around as there are no storage areas or refrigerators.
A Bangladeshi worker said: "The rats bite our feet when we sleep at night. We set up rat traps but haven't caught any so far."
Another worker said: "My home in India is much cleaner."
Others are frustrated by the lack of toilets, which often get choked. "We have to wait for more than an hour every night and in the morning to use the toilet," said a worker from India.
Some of the dorms have kitchens, which the men say are dirty most of the time. Cleaners wash the dorms infrequently.
But it's not all bad.
While this dormitory town is far from residential areas, it is near workplaces such as the shipyards in Jurong.
[email protected]
[email protected]
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/more-singapore-stories/story/tuas-view-square-home-away-home-foreign-workers-20141031#sthash.c7l4Lkdh.dpuf
When forummer start making racist and degrading remarks about foreigners who help build this country, you need to BEWARE.
As the saying goes, leopard will not change it spot regardless of which forum account they use.
Which part of the strait times article is making racist and degrading remarks about foreigners?
I am very happy to see more and more foreign workers housed in good dormitories in Jurong.
More and more foreign workers, after hard day of work, can now enjoy their off-day in Westgate and JEM shopping centres, or Jurong lake. There are now buses ferrying them from dormitories to Westgate and JEM on weekends for shopping.
As the sun sets on Tuas, a remote area in a remote industrial estate gets busy.
Male workers clad in T-shirts or overalls stained with mud and grime get off covered lorries and file into factory buildings.
They are not reporting for work but going home after calling it a day at shipyards and construction sites all over Singapore.
Welcome to Tuas View Square, a 500m stretch of road where more than 10 factories have been refurbished into dormitories for foreign workers. It has become a kind of mini dormitory town and a home away from home to more than 5,000 workers, mainly from India and Bangladesh. It's almost a little Little India.
About five years ago, the scene at sunset would have been one of workers from Singapore and Malaysia filing out of the factories in casual attire after changing out of grey, white and blue uniforms.
Then, factories owned by multinational companies churned out goods like electronic parts and chemicals, said shopkeepers in the area.
But as companies relocated to cheaper locations overseas, the factories were turned into dorms by construction and marine firms over the last five years.
There are about 700 factory-converted dorms for foreign workers in industrial estates across Singapore. They house an estimated 100,000 or more foreign workers - about 25 per cent of the work permit holders in lower-skilled jobs in sectors such as construction and marine.
This dorm town in Tuas View Square, where Singapore's largest rubbish incinerator is in sight, is as far from anyone's backyard as can be. While barbed wire on fences or gantries remain, the security measures are unnecessary: Hardly anyone from outside visits.
In the evenings, some denizens of this nearly all-male town - there are only a handful of women, mainly shopkeepers - sit cross-legged on roadside kerbs to chat and drink beer.
The men, some clad in shirts and sarongs, also go on bicycles to visit friends in other dorms.
"I like the quiet," said an Indian shipyard worker. "I am around languages and people I know."
Some dorms have canteens where curries and rice are served round the clock; others house mini-marts and phone shops.
Some Singaporeans do brisk business here selling groceries and mobile phone cards. Mr Jonathan Koh, who is in his late 30s, said each night he and his two staff serve a few hundred workers, who spend $20 to $30 each to top up their phone cards.
"Business is quite good. There are few mobile phone shops here and it takes too long for the workers to travel outside," he said.
Dorm operators have had good business too. A bed in dorms here now costs around $250 a month per worker, up from $100 to $150 five years ago, say employers.
While the area has a relaxed atmosphere, the conditions in the factory dorms are not as good as those in purpose-built dorms, which cost more and have better facilities.
There is an obvious lack of recreational facilities, an issue also raised by a committee that looked into the Dec 8 Little India riots.
A Malaysian who works for a drinks company in Tuas View Square said: "The workers spend most of their free time sitting outside the dorms. There should be sports facilities for them."
Mr K. Ganesh, 49, who runs a mini-mart and canteen, said every night, hundreds of workers come by to buy a few cans of beer each. They munch on murukku as they watch old Tamil movies on large screens. "The workers do hard work. They have a few cans of beer to relax," he said.
The Straits Times wanted to go inside the rooms, but a few owners of the buildings in Tuas View Square declined requests to visit.
Some of the dorms look neat and clean from the outside. However, most of the factory-converted premises appear cramped.
Rows of damp uniforms hang on dusty window louvres. Some windows are boarded up, others show double-decker beds.
Of 20 workers interviewed, only a few said their living areas were clean. Most complained of filth. There are rats, ants and mosquitoes in their rooms, said the men. The pests are drawn to the food left around as there are no storage areas or refrigerators.
A Bangladeshi worker said: "The rats bite our feet when we sleep at night. We set up rat traps but haven't caught any so far."
Another worker said: "My home in India is much cleaner."
Others are frustrated by the lack of toilets, which often get choked. "We have to wait for more than an hour every night and in the morning to use the toilet," said a worker from India.
Some of the dorms have kitchens, which the men say are dirty most of the time. Cleaners wash the dorms infrequently.
But it's not all bad.
While this dormitory town is far from residential areas, it is near workplaces such as the shipyards in Jurong.
I was talking about 30 years old Jurong East HDB vs 10 years old Punggol flat. GET IT?
Valuation of 30yr old jurong east HDB is less than 10yr old Punggol flat.
Are you saying that, in next 25years when JLD is fully developed, valuation of 30yr old Jgateway will be less than 10yr old Punggol condo?
Only low life human beings will engage in such discussion and certainly speaks plenty of a low life person character.
The distant from Tuas to JLD is the same distant from JLD to Orchard.
So tell us what are you driving at?
Which part of the strait times article is making racist and degrading remarks about foreigners?
I am very happy to see more and more foreign workers housed in good dormitories in Jurong.
More and more foreign workers, after hard day of work, can now enjoy their off-day in Westgate and JEM shopping centres, or Jurong lake. There are now buses ferrying them from dormitories to Westgate and JEM on weekends for shopping.
As the sun sets on Tuas, a remote area in a remote industrial estate gets busy.
Male workers clad in T-shirts or overalls stained with mud and grime get off covered lorries and file into factory buildings.
They are not reporting for work but going home after calling it a day at shipyards and construction sites all over Singapore.
Welcome to Tuas View Square, a 500m stretch of road where more than 10 factories have been refurbished into dormitories for foreign workers. It has become a kind of mini dormitory town and a home away from home to more than 5,000 workers, mainly from India and Bangladesh. It's almost a little Little India.
About five years ago, the scene at sunset would have been one of workers from Singapore and Malaysia filing out of the factories in casual attire after changing out of grey, white and blue uniforms.
Then, factories owned by multinational companies churned out goods like electronic parts and chemicals, said shopkeepers in the area.
But as companies relocated to cheaper locations overseas, the factories were turned into dorms by construction and marine firms over the last five years.
There are about 700 factory-converted dorms for foreign workers in industrial estates across Singapore. They house an estimated 100,000 or more foreign workers - about 25 per cent of the work permit holders in lower-skilled jobs in sectors such as construction and marine.
This dorm town in Tuas View Square, where Singapore's largest rubbish incinerator is in sight, is as far from anyone's backyard as can be. While barbed wire on fences or gantries remain, the security measures are unnecessary: Hardly anyone from outside visits.
In the evenings, some denizens of this nearly all-male town - there are only a handful of women, mainly shopkeepers - sit cross-legged on roadside kerbs to chat and drink beer.
The men, some clad in shirts and sarongs, also go on bicycles to visit friends in other dorms.
"I like the quiet," said an Indian shipyard worker. "I am around languages and people I know."
Some dorms have canteens where curries and rice are served round the clock; others house mini-marts and phone shops.
Some Singaporeans do brisk business here selling groceries and mobile phone cards. Mr Jonathan Koh, who is in his late 30s, said each night he and his two staff serve a few hundred workers, who spend $20 to $30 each to top up their phone cards.
"Business is quite good. There are few mobile phone shops here and it takes too long for the workers to travel outside," he said.
Dorm operators have had good business too. A bed in dorms here now costs around $250 a month per worker, up from $100 to $150 five years ago, say employers.
While the area has a relaxed atmosphere, the conditions in the factory dorms are not as good as those in purpose-built dorms, which cost more and have better facilities.
There is an obvious lack of recreational facilities, an issue also raised by a committee that looked into the Dec 8 Little India riots.
A Malaysian who works for a drinks company in Tuas View Square said: "The workers spend most of their free time sitting outside the dorms. There should be sports facilities for them."
Mr K. Ganesh, 49, who runs a mini-mart and canteen, said every night, hundreds of workers come by to buy a few cans of beer each. They munch on murukku as they watch old Tamil movies on large screens. "The workers do hard work. They have a few cans of beer to relax," he said.
The Straits Times wanted to go inside the rooms, but a few owners of the buildings in Tuas View Square declined requests to visit.
Some of the dorms look neat and clean from the outside. However, most of the factory-converted premises appear cramped.
Rows of damp uniforms hang on dusty window louvres. Some windows are boarded up, others show double-decker beds.
Of 20 workers interviewed, only a few said their living areas were clean. Most complained of filth. There are rats, ants and mosquitoes in their rooms, said the men. The pests are drawn to the food left around as there are no storage areas or refrigerators.
A Bangladeshi worker said: "The rats bite our feet when we sleep at night. We set up rat traps but haven't caught any so far."
Another worker said: "My home in India is much cleaner."
Others are frustrated by the lack of toilets, which often get choked. "We have to wait for more than an hour every night and in the morning to use the toilet," said a worker from India.
Some of the dorms have kitchens, which the men say are dirty most of the time. Cleaners wash the dorms infrequently.
But it's not all bad.
While this dormitory town is far from residential areas, it is near workplaces such as the shipyards in Jurong.
Valuation of 30yr old jurong east HDB is less than 10yr old Punggol flat.
Are you saying that, in next 25years when JLD is fully developed, valuation of 30yr old Jgateway will be less than 10yr old Punggol condo?
I am saying that you should just shut up and stop sprouting nonsense in this forum,
One office building of 300k sq feet is enough to get Mr Ringo so excited.
3million sq feet of office space coming soon in CBD. Should the CCR owners get 10x more excited?
300,000sqft of office space here is referring to Westgate Tower, which is just one of the many development within the JLD.
And here you are using 3,000,000 sq feet of office space coming to CBD to compare with Westgate.
Westgate vs CBD??? Does it even make sense.
Never mind if it doesnt.
Under the JLD masterplan, when completed, JLD will have more than 5,000,000 sqft of office space and
I think any sensible person who are vested around JLD area should be excited.
Again, this is a good example why I say its pointless for troll to operate so many fakes forum accounts when its always
the same nonsense again and again.
Only low life human beings will engage in such discussion and certainly speaks plenty of a low life person character.
The distant from Tuas to JLD is the same distant from JLD to Orchard.
So tell us what are you driving at?
Why lowly? Afterall, foreign workers build our nation
There are many foreign workers dormitories in Jurong, not just Tuas.
The nearest foreign workers dormitory is Jurong Penjuru Dormitory which is less than 3km from Jgateway..
With Tuas nearer to JLD than to Orchard, transport is provided for foreign workers to JEM and Westgate.. see more and more of them enjoying time off in JLD ...
Under the JLD masterplan, when completed, JLD will have more than 5,000,000 sqft of office space and
I think any sensible person who are vested around JLD area should be excited.
Under Woodland masterplan, when completed, Woodlands will have more than 7,000,000 sqft of commercial space..
So woodland residents should be more excited
Everone huat ah!
http://www.ura.gov.sg/uol/master-plan/View-Master-Plan/master-plan-2014/master-plan/Regional-highlights/north-region/north-region
Under Woodland masterplan, when completed, Woodlands will have more than 7,000,000 sqft of commercial space..
So woodland residents should be more excited
Everone huat ah!
http://www.ura.gov.sg/uol/master-plan/View-Master-Plan/master-plan-2014/master-plan/Regional-highlights/north-region/north-region
You obviously can't tell the difference between commercial and office space right?
not surprising actually.
Thought we will have another Singapore's regional CBD - Woodlands Lake District or WLD from 2022?
You obviously can't tell the difference between commercial and office space right?
not surprising actually.
I know, its like comparing Jurong condo to Nassim, CCR vs RCR vs OCR. Then again, who doesnt know. You think you smart? Or just pointlessly childish?
Just trying to point out to someone who thought he knows alot which in fact he's talking cock half the time n which no one listens to what he says.... LOL
Just trying to point out to someone who thought he knows alot which in fact he's talking cock half the time n which no one listens to what he says.... LOL
Like we dont already know that CCR or RCR property are more expensive that OCR.
Marine Parade vs. Jurong....LOL!!
Sometime back someone actually compare Grange Road condo to JLD condo. I guess he must be smarter than you then?? LOL
Like we dont already know that CCR or RCR property are more expensive that OCR.
Marine Parade vs. Jurong....LOL!!
Sometime back someone actually compare Grange Road condo to JLD condo. I guess he must be smarter than you then?? LOL
Maybe u are right but at least not as stupid as u...
LOL...
Like we dont already know that CCR or RCR property are more expensive that OCR.
Jgateway is Singapore most expensive OCR topping 17xx psf, surpassing most of the RCR recent resales, and only marginally cheaper than prime freehold in CCR.
Tharman already said that recent correction is not meaningful
So expect further correction by 10-15% for singapore most overpriced OCR Jgateway
AssetRichMoneyPoor
03-11-14, 12:29
Jgateway is Singapore most expensive OCR topping 17xx psf, surpassing most of the RCR recent resales, and only marginally cheaper than prime freehold in CCR.
Tharman already said that recent correction is not meaningful
So expect further correction by 10-15% for singapore most overpriced OCR Jgateway
Something we already know but someone is still deluded.
Jgateway is Singapore most expensive OCR topping 17xx psf, surpassing most of the RCR recent resales, and only marginally cheaper than prime freehold in CCR.
Tharman already said that recent correction is not meaningful
So expect further correction by 10-15% for singapore most overpriced OCR Jgateway
You are wrong leh. Seahill FEO already selling at 19xxpsf.
In RCR Echelon $2500psf,
In CCR prime >$4000psf.
Overpriced? Why no one is selling?
Something we already know but someone is still deluded.
We? As in how many of you?
AssetRichMoneyPoor
04-11-14, 15:38
We? As in how many of you?
Lakelife avg price 850psf
Lakeville avg price 1200psf
J Gate ave price 1500psf
all are just 99 year condominiums, different regulations but the same after 10 years.
The truth is out there, i feel the most for one particular set of buyers.
How many "we"? Do your maths and you will understand. It's not too difficult really.
Lakelife avg price 850psf
Lakeville avg price 1200psf
J Gate ave price 1500psf
all are just 99 year condominiums, different regulations but the same after 10 years.
The truth is out there, i feel the most for one particular set of buyers.
How many "we"? Do your maths and you will understand. It's not too difficult really.
property is really not your cup of tea, so please dont try to force it.
Using multiple forum account doesnt multiple your brain power. Thats something you need to know.
Lakelife avg price 850psf
Lakeville avg price 1200psf
J Gate ave price 1500psf
all are just 99 year condominiums, different regulations but the same after 10 years.
The truth is out there, i feel the most for one particular set of buyers.
How many "we"? Do your maths and you will understand. It's not too difficult really.
And you know which condo sold out in one day with many disappointed that they did not managed to buy on that day?
And you know which condo sold out in one day with many disappointed that they did not managed to buy on that day?
And do you know these people now all smile in relief when they never managed to buy after knowing J gateway buyers buy during peak with current property down cycle?
And do you know these people now all smile in relief when they never managed to buy after knowing J gateway buyers buy during peak with current property down cycle?
Nope, they are still disappointed and waiting for return units. U can check with Hutton agents
Nope, they are still disappointed and waiting for return units. U can check with Hutton agents
Ha ha ! Is a joke still got some people believe in agents' words now.
Ha ha ! Is a joke still got some people believe in agents' words now.
Those listen to r33 are "kam tow tir"
BEWARE , J GATEWAY is rising!!
Westgate lobby is just at the door step.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5602/15068862803_c8a44ba75b_c.jpg
BEWARE , J GATEWAY is rising!!
Westgate lobby is just at the door step.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5602/15068862803_c8a44ba75b_c.jpg
Never buy overprice property.
first post in this forum, with such comment, I can't help but think that u have just given away your......
if Lakeville, 4km away, is currently transacted at about 1350-1450 psf for those less than 1000sqf unit, how much do you think j gateway should be valued at logically? u don't need to think too hard to have your answer...
Ha ha ! Is a joke still got some people believe in agents' words now.
Those listen to r33 are "kam tow tir"
959395929591
Never buy overprice property.
We all know you are just an empty vessel.
Loads of big talk and lies.
He knows nuts on JLD, I travel to jurong to work for 30 years, i step the land more than him and i wanted to tell him
jld actually develops very slowly if once recalls there from 30 years back. Our PM gets disappointed after visiting the place.
it has become his duty now to push and make the plan works. not to forget he also need to develop other areas to please all
citizens, JLD huat other place were also huat. its a matter of time rolls, one day he will find other area develops better when
other tells him to "beware"
Please dont let the troll fool you into believe that he knows about JLD, what he know about JLD is probably less than many in this forum.
a) Jurong Lake District masterplan was launch in 2008, not 30 years ago. You cant dispute that because we know thats a fact.
b) 30 years back, who was the PM? Which PM has ever talk about decentralization of CBD 30 years ago?
c) Name me a district in Singapore outside CBD that can rival JLD at the moment. I mean one district, I am not saying a combination of many district.
Like I said before, what you said are just pure baseless speculation, so please dont take it as facts.
You have just validated my point that you are nothing more than an empty vessel trolling in this forum, thats the reason why you are unable to challenge what I wrote.
first post in this forum, with such comment, I can't help but think that u have just given away your......
if Lakeville, 4km away, is currently transacted at about 1350-1450 psf for those less than 1000sqf unit, how much do you think j gateway should be valued at logically? u don't need to think too hard to have your answer...
Both overpriced becos located in Jurong. Cannot justify the high prices.
don't u study economics before? even if u have not, don't u know logic? if overpriced, it will not be sold off in a day. besides, overprice or not it is relative to time.
if I know you are willing to buy a camry at 150K, will I sell u C180 at 130K?? when ppl buy at 130k, u will say the seller is stupid, and when the seller can sell at 180k, u say the buyer is stupid.
Don't u get it? the pricing is fixed with some rules that you cannot comprehend....not everything that u don't understand is wrong...
I am not vested, but please keep an open mind. there a few more clowns that try to make negative comments with their own opinions but, once enough, don't need to go on and keep repeating it. ppl can hear and see.
Both overpriced becos located in Jurong. Cannot justify the high prices.
Both overpriced becos located in Jurong. Cannot justify the high prices.
There is a reason troll in this forum need to keep using new forum accounts to sprout nonsense in this thread, its because they need to distant themselves from
their earlier nonsensical comment.
When you are poor, of course you cant justify living in Singapore, not to mention investing in private property.
And like I said before, using multiple forum account is not going multiply your brain power.
don't u study economics before? even if u have not, don't u know logic? if overpriced, it will not be sold off in a day. besides, overprice or not it is relative to time.
if I know you are willing to buy a camry at 150K, will I sell u C180 at 130K?? when ppl buy at 130k, u will say the seller is stupid, and when the seller can sell at 180k, u say the buyer is stupid.
Don't u get it? the pricing is fixed with some rules that you cannot comprehend....not everything that u don't understand is wrong...
I am not vested, but please keep an open mind. there a few more clowns that try to make negative comments with their own opinions but, once enough, don't need to go on and keep repeating it. ppl can hear and see.
So those who write negative remarks of J gateway are clowns.
Those who support J gateway are smart.
What kind of logic are you promoting? Still have the cheek to say "keep an open mind" lol.
Your good friend r33 every single second promoting Jurong ain't we heard enough?
How come you didn't ask him to shut up when he's actually acting like the biggest clown here?
I never say cannot make negative comments....and I never say he is not a clown :)
and I say, be logical...
So those who write negative remarks of J gateway are clowns.
Those who support J gateway are smart.
What kind of logic are you promoting? Still have the cheek to say "keep an open mind" lol.
Your good friend r33 every single second promoting Jurong ain't we heard enough?
How come you didn't ask him to shut up when he's actually acting like the biggest clown here?
So those who write negative remarks of J gateway are clowns.
Those who support J gateway are smart.
What kind of logic are you promoting? Still have the cheek to say "keep an open mind" lol.
Your good friend r33 every single second promoting Jurong ain't we heard enough?
How come you didn't ask him to shut up when he's actually acting like the biggest clown here?
There are some really serious bitching between you and Regulators in this thread?
Cant believe you guys can actually be repeating the same scumbag statement over and over again for almost 10 pages.
This stuff is serious and I hope you will spare us those nonsense here.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/14768-8-increment-for-teachers-possibly-next-the-poly-ite-and-uni-impact-on-properties/page24
Btw, where have you been hibernating?
Very high price in this project but potential is there I must say.
Once if a lifetime opportunity. In 20 years time, you will cursing at yourself for MTB on JLD Masterplan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq7SOYpCUeo
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/180/9sx6.jpg
One and only residential development within Jurong Gateway; the 2nd CBD of Singapore
Got money also cannot buy now because no one is selling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbcOM8fpv3k
One and only residential development within Jurong Gateway; the 2nd CBD of Singapore
Got money also cannot buy now because no one is selling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbcOM8fpv3k
What so proud surrounded by so many hdb flats? The malls also cannot make it.
Beware of those who drum up irrational beliefs and expectations of market participants
There are many URA slick marketing videos for each regional centre
Woodland regional centre is Next Big Thing in masterplan 2014
7,000,000 commercial space too. There are many opportunities everywhere, timing is important
Why curse yourself for MTB? Those who bought the very peak of the property market in Jul 2013 should be worried. URA index is down by 3-4% since then. Jurong rental also coming down.
J-gateway sold overnight means good buy? Warren Buffett says 'Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2BEmuxWVn4
Beware of those who drum up irrational beliefs and expectations of market participants
There are many URA slick marketing videos for each regional centre
Woodland regional centre is Next Big Thing in masterplan 2014
7,000,000 commercial space too. There are many opportunities everywhere, timing is important
Why curse yourself for MTB? Those who bought the very peak of the property market in Jul 2013 should be worried. URA index is down by 3-4% since then. Jurong rental also coming down.
J-gateway sold overnight means good buy? Warren Buffett says 'Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful'
You are contradicting yourself here. The same MM in JLD is going at close to $3k.
If you still insist WRC has got better potential, then go start a thread. (which I doubt you would, because you are just an empty vessel)
Brand new OCR MM going for 1.6k a month
www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/18163777/for-rent-parc-rosewood
OCR 3-bedroom rental inching towards neighbouring HDB 5-room rental if maintainance/sinking funds are considered. So some OCR HDB renters moving to 3-bedroom condo, but not OCR MM due to family size
OCR tenants (young couples) working in CBD are now moving to RCR
The straits times reported that
"These are tough times, the supply of homes for rent is more than demand," said property agent Peter Wan, 49.
A client, who owns a two-bedder at The Lakefront Residences in Lakeside Drive near Jurong, found a tenant only after he dropped asking rents from $3,800 a month to "below $3,000", said Mr Wan. There were 762 rental listings on online portal PropertyGuru for the 629-unit project.
- See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/property/condo-rents-fall-again-prices-units-sold-edge#sthash.gw4Giuz4.dpuf
Looks like 3k MM in OCR Jurong is going to be a tough call...
Lakefront MM transacted rental going as low as 2400 recently as seen in URA
You are contradicting yourself here. The same MM in JLD is going at close to $3k.
If you still insist WRC has got better potential, then go start a thread. (which I doubt you would, because you are just an empty vessel)
The straits times reported that
"These are tough times, the supply of homes for rent is more than demand," said property agent Peter Wan, 49.
A client, who owns a two-bedder at The Lakefront Residences in Lakeside Drive near Jurong, found a tenant only after he dropped asking rents from $3,800 a month to "below $3,000", said Mr Wan. There were 762 rental listings on online portal PropertyGuru for the 629-unit project.
- See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/property/condo-rents-fall-again-prices-units-sold-edge#sthash.gw4Giuz4.dpuf
Looks like 3k MM in OCR Jurong is going to be a tough call...
Lakefront MM transacted rental going as low as 2400 recently as seen in URA
Cherry picking data is pointless.
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,200 800 to 900 Aug-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,700 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,500 800 to 900 Aug-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,600 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,600 900 to 1000 Aug-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 2,900 900 to 1000 Aug-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,400 800 to 900 Jul-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 4 5,200 1500 to 1600 Jul-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,000 1400 to 1500 Jul-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,600 900 to 1000 Jul-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 4,000 900 to 1000 Jul-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,000 400 to 500 Jul-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,000 1400 to 1500 Jun-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,000 1400 to 1500 Jun-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,300 1200 to 1300 Jun-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,550 1000 to 1100 Jun-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,750 1000 to 1100 Jun-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,750 1400 to 1500 Jun-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,350 1000 to 1100 Jun-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,350 1300 to 1400 May-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,600 1000 to 1100 May-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,200 1100 to 1200 May-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,000 1100 to 1200 May-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,300 1200 to 1300 May-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,700 900 to 1000 May-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1200 to 1300 May-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 4 5,500 1600 to 1700 May-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,800 900 to 1000 May-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,600 1200 to 1300 May-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,200 400 to 500 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,300 1000 to 1100 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,200 1100 to 1200 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,600 1000 to 1100 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,100 800 to 900 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,600 900 to 1000 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,500 900 to 1000 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1200 to 1300 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,000 1200 to 1300 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,800 800 to 900 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,200 800 to 900 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,000 1100 to 1200 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,200 1200 to 1300 Apr-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,000 1200 to 1300 Mar-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 4 4,800 1300 to 1400 Mar-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,300 1200 to 1300 Mar-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,800 1000 to 1100 Mar-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,300 1200 to 1300 Mar-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 4 5,800 1300 to 1400 Mar-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,400 800 to 900 Mar-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,500 1000 to 1100 Mar-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,100 800 to 900 Feb-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,500 900 to 1000 Feb-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 4 4,600 1500 to 1600 Feb-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 2,700 400 to 500 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,280 1200 to 1300 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 2,800 400 to 500 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,850 1200 to 1300 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1100 to 1200 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,600 900 to 1000 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,700 1000 to 1100 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 4,200 800 to 900 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 4,200 1000 to 1100 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 2,700 400 to 500 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 2,600 400 to 500 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,600 900 to 1000 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,400 1000 to 1100 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,700 900 to 1000 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,600 900 to 1000 Jan-14
CASPIAN LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,400 1200 to 1300 Jan-14
cherry-picking? Then you can read this "median rentals of non-landed private homes in Jurong have fallen about 8 per cent as at Q2 2014 since the start of 2013 despite the current limited private housing stock in Jurong. This decline was larger than the 3.2 per cent fall in overall suburban rentals, against the backdrop of a large number of completions island- wide."
cherry-picking? Then you can read this "median rentals of non-landed private homes in Jurong have fallen about 8 per cent as at Q2 2014 since the start of 2013 despite the current limited private housing stock in Jurong. This decline was larger than the 3.2 per cent fall in overall suburban rentals, against the backdrop of a large number of completions island- wide."
Jurong is a big place. Which part of jurong you talking about?
I am still waiting for you to start a thread of Woodland Regional Center. What talking you so long? Lack of substance and content?
Jurong is a big place indeed, inclusive of Jurong Island!
We sure know Jurong this region itself contains 96% of all SO2 in Singapore! :sulkiness:
Jurong is a big place. Which part of jurong you talking about?
I am still waiting for you to start a thread of Woodland Regional Center. What talking you so long? Lack of substance and content?
Jurong is a big place indeed, inclusive of Jurong Island!
We sure know Jurong this region itself contains 96% of all SO2 in Singapore! :sulkiness:
There is already a thread of pollution., any reason why are you not using that as a platform for showcase you knowledge on pollution?
Perhaps the lack of facts and substance?
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/21010-AIR-POLLUTION-THREAD/page5?highlight=Pollution
Lakelife avg price 850psf
Lakeville avg price 1200psf
J Gate ave price 1500psf
all are just 99 year condominiums, different regulations but the same after 10 years.
The truth is out there, i feel the most for one particular set of buyers.
How many "we"? Do your maths and you will understand. It's not too difficult really.
Personally I also find J Gateway overpriced and expensive. However in all fairness J Gateway's premium pricing isn't anything new. There are just some people who can afford to buy overpriced properties and the importance is to determine IF there are still demand from people who wants to buy a piece or prime development/over priced or whatever you call it.
So let's do a comparison with:
Paterson Residence or The Paterson SGD2,200 to ,2300 average psf
The Metz SGD2,600 average psf
The Orchard Residence SGD3,700 average psf
Plus the former projects are all FH whereas the Orchard Residence is LH99~ Sometimes it's not just about $ and cents. Demand can come in many form.
My stake on this is "Human is not always logical Creature". As long as Ringo33 happy with the purchase then the case is closed. He has all the right to spend His money they way He want it. We have no right to judge Him.
My stake on this is "Human is not always logical Creature". As long as Ringo33 happy with the purchase then the case is closed. He has all the right to spend His money they way He want it. We have no right to judge Him.
Trumpet carrier.
Its important to point out that J Gateway average price is around 1450psf and its only a handful of MM units located at the top floors with unblock view of the lake that are
being sold at $1700psf.
If you study the masterplan for JLD you will know that J Gateway is perhaps the one and only residential site which is located within the Jurong Gateway; a commercial enclave
which is to become the 2nd CBD of Singapore. J Gateway overpriced or not, that is for the market to decided however judging by the overwhelming response., limited supply
of residential property around JLD and the wave of new companies and jobs moving into JLD, there is no reason why believe what some are saying that J Gateway price will fall by 20-30%. in 2 to 3 years.
When J Gateway TOP, it will become a residential landmark of the west. BEWARE
As we all know, OCR private condos are seriously OVER-PRICED!
should see JGateway drop another 20-30% below $1400 psf in next 2-3 years!
Its important to point out that J Gateway average price is around 1450psf and its only a handful of MM units located at the top floors with unblock view of the lake that are
being sold at $1700psf.
If you study the masterplan for JLD you will know that J Gateway is perhaps the one and only residential site which is located within the Jurong Gateway; a commercial enclave
which is to become the 2nd CBD of Singapore. J Gateway overpriced or not, that is for the market to decided however judging by the overwhelming response., limited supply
of residential property around JLD and the wave of new companies and jobs moving into JLD, there is no reason why believe what some are saying that J Gateway price will fall by 20-30%. in 2 to 3 years.
When J Gateway TOP, it will become a residential landmark of the west. BEWARE
I doubt!
Probably only people living in jurong will agree but not the rest of the majority living elsewhere.
Imo,jurong will always be jurong perceived to be far, not so conveniently located n less atas..
I doubt!
Probably only people living in jurong will agree but not the rest of the majority living elsewhere.
Imo,jurong will always be jurong perceived to be far, not so conveniently located n less atas..
Otherwise why do always say song song gao jurong! And no other place.
I doubt!
Probably only people living in jurong will agree but not the rest of the majority living elsewhere.
Imo,jurong will always be jurong perceived to be far, not so conveniently located n less atas..
Like in any investment, there will always be first mover and late comers.
Jurong and Jurong Lake District has already been transformed, and thats the reason why government is pumping so much money and effort into developing the entire JLD.
Having said that, i dont blame you for not having foresight because if everyone has got the foresight then there will be very little opportunity to make money.
The first mover are those who purchased Jurong condos in 2008 when the JLD is first announced, and they have done well.
Unfortuately, Jgateway is the late comer of the JLD. The property index peaked at the point when jgateway is sold in jul 2013, and has been declining. More "meaningful" correction needed according to Tharman.
2008- be greedy when others are fearful
2013- be fearful when others are greedy
Foresight may or may not correct, but timing definitely wrong
Like in any investment, there will always be first mover and late comers.
Jurong and Jurong Lake District has already been transformed, and thats the reason why government is pumping so much money and effort into developing the entire JLD.
Having said that, i dont blame you for not having foresight because if everyone has got the foresight then there will be very little opportunity to make money.
The first mover are those who purchased Jurong condos in 2008 when the JLD is first announced, and they have done well.
Unfortuately, Jgateway is the late comer of the JLD. The property index peaked at the point when jgateway is sold in jul 2013, and has been declining. More "meaningful" correction needed according to Tharman.
2008- be greedy when others are fearful
2013- be fearful when others are greedy
Foresight may or may not correct, but timing definitely wrong
Totally agreed!! :applause:
Allthepies
07-11-14, 16:44
just buy if any scary cat wants to let go of JLD condo 10-20% below market price : ) the development plan for JLD is so loud and clear that it is very difficult to miss it : )
If u have more money, of course u should go for Marina One : )
Trumpet carrier.
Most people hang around this forum because none of us have magical Crystal Ball.
We just want to share knowledge and learn from other people knowledge. No more and no Less.
Why make it so personal which is not good for our blood pressure :black_eyed:
The first mover are those who purchased Jurong condos in 2008 when the JLD is first announced, and they have done well.
Unfortuately, Jgateway is the late comer of the JLD. The property index peaked at the point when jgateway is sold in jul 2013, and has been declining. More "meaningful" correction needed according to Tharman.
2008- be greedy when others are fearful
2013- be fearful when others are greedy
Foresight may or may not correct, but timing definitely wrong
This is a typical armchair big talk trying to act smart.
JLD Masterplan was first announce in 2008, since then only 4 projects was launched
Caspian was launch in 2009
Lakefront was launch in 2010
J Gateway was launch in 2013
Lakeville was launch in 2014
So I am not sure what 2008 project he is talking about here. Plus, there is only 1 residential site within Jurong Gateway, so I am not sure what exactly can you buy before J Gateway was launch.
Plus when you join this forum in May 2013, perhaps you have missed the golden years of property? Or is this just one of your many forum account that you are using to troll around this forum?
AssetRichMoneyPoor
07-11-14, 22:40
Lakelife avg price 850psf
Lakeville avg price 1200psf
J Gate ave price 1500psf
all are just 99 year condominiums, different regulations but the same after 10 years.
The truth is out there, i feel the most for one particular set of buyers.
Readers should be reminded of these average pricing with Jgate MM going all the way to 17XX psf and facing MRT tracks what not.
Sold at the peak of last cycle and may have to wait out another 10-15 years. There's a long time counting your eggs to hatch.
Like in any investment, there will always be first mover and late comers.
Jurong and Jurong Lake District has already been transformed, and thats the reason why government is pumping so much money and effort into developing the entire JLD.
Having said that, i dont blame you for not having foresight because if everyone has got the foresight then there will be very little opportunity to make money.
I wouldn't blame u also for having the wrong foresight. Doesn't mean that gahmen's pumping in $ into that area it will turn out to be successful. Maybe many many many years from now jurong may turn out to be good but not in the near foreseeable future i reckon.
Jurong will always be the jurong we all know, a far n less desirable place to many....
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