View Full Version : Owners in the West beware!!
Allthepies
30-11-13, 14:02
East to West only half an hour, but away from factories is still the better option
Aiyo I dont want to get into the argument...
Ha if D15 living beside (5metre? at most) a heavy major expressway ECP is considered good and high end, we should stop arguing about factories situated 10km away....anyway the whole east side, changi away is earmarked for industrial usage.....
Patrickstar
30-11-13, 14:37
I have nothing against jurong, don't get me wrong. In fact I find jurong will a lot more to offer than many towns. As mentioned before, without the factories, jurong will be a perfect place to live.
Aiyo I dont want to get into the argument...
Ha if D15 living beside (5metre? at most) a heavy major expressway ECP is considered good and high end, we should stop arguing about factories situated 10km away....anyway the whole east side, changi away is earmarked for industrial usage.....
Please stop acting and talking like a childish idiot trying to argue something out of nothing because we all know that the western region is the one of the largest employment hub in Singapore providing good and decent jobs to people from all over Singapore and that Singaporeans will travel to all corners of Singapore just to eat and shop.
Go ask your friends and neighbour who have not been to IMM Jurong Point and Jem..
I dun wan to waste my time making u understand cos I noe u wouldnt.
n stop bringing in irrelevant points to back u up, tinking tat ppl here r so stupid n dumb until they will lose sight of the whole picture.
juz answer my qn.
jurong no suicide, no murder no dengue issit?
told u many times le, tink b4 u post.
everyone is watching wat u commented closely :47:
I dun wan to waste my time making u understand cos I noe u wouldnt.
n stop bringing in irrelevant points to back u up, tinking tat ppl here r so stupid n dumb until they will lose sight of the whole picture.
juz answer my qn.
jurong no suicide, no murder no dengue issit?
told u many times le, tink b4 u post.
everyone is watching wat u commented closely :47:
Yes it's just a broken glass door so please don't try make a mountain out of it because it still will make you sound like an idiot even if you use a new forum account.
You should ask yourself are you trying to tell us that in orchard mall they are no broken glass and that people should avoid orchard because of that.
nobody is trying to assert anything here. dun be a smart aleck n put words into others' mouths.
everyone here is contesting on yr ridiculous assertions, btw :47:
Yes it's just a broken glass door so please don't try make a mountain out of it because it still will make you sound like an idiot even if you use a new forum account.
1. due to yr passion in jld, u seems to try to make us forget wat had happened to jem since opening. so r u trying to tell us tat nothing has happen to jem before? yes/no?
2. so u r telling us tat wat happened in jem is no big deal n we r making a mountain out of nothing? yes/no?
3. u hv yet to answer me. y u claim tat other places hv dengue, suicides n murder. so jurong hv no dengue, suicides n murder issit? yes/no.
whether I hv changed my nick onot is irrelevant; i did not malign u, neither am I ashamed of my mermaid account :47:
1. due to yr passion in jld, u seems to try to make us forget wat had happened to jem since opening. so r u trying to tell us tat nothing has happen to jem before? yes/no?
2. so u r telling us tat wat happened in jem is no big deal n we r making a mountain out of nothing? yes/no?
3. u hv yet to answer me. y u claim tat other places hv dengue, suicides n murder. so jurong hv no dengue, suicides n murder issit? yes/no.
whether I hv changed my nick onot is irrelevant; i did not malign u, neither am I ashamed of my mermaid account :47:
玉格格 = mermaid?
JLD are not limited to people living in jurong because people from all over Singapore do come to Jurong for work and now to shop. In terms of spending power, Jurong has got one of the highest percentage of middle age residents, and this is the group which high spending power.
Where do you get your fact from???
玉格格 = mermaid?
as if changing name will become smarter
Where do you get your fact from???
which part of what I said you wish to dispute, and with what are you going to use to dispute what I said?
1. due to yr passion in jld, u seems to try to make us forget wat had happened to jem since opening. so r u trying to tell us tat nothing has happen to jem before? yes/no?
2. so u r telling us tat wat happened in jem is no big deal n we r making a mountain out of nothing? yes/no?
3. u hv yet to answer me. y u claim tat other places hv dengue, suicides n murder. so jurong hv no dengue, suicides n murder issit? yes/no.
whether I hv changed my nick onot is irrelevant; i did not malign u, neither am I ashamed of my mermaid account :47:
please dont make a mountain out of broken glass door and changing your account name is not going to change your nonsensical past
Anybody will brain would query for facts to backup assertions regarding (1), (2), (3), which may not be true, so we would like to know any facts to back up. :rolleyes:
which part of what I said you wish to dispute, and with what are you going to use to dispute what I said?
Originally Posted by Ringo33
JLD are not limited to people living in jurong because (1) people from all over Singapore do come to Jurong for work and now to shop. (2) In terms of spending power, Jurong has got one of the highest percentage of middle age residents, and (3) this is the group which high spending power.
please dont make a mountain out of broken glass door and changing your account name is not going to change your nonsensical past
dun tink im tat stupid to forget wat u asserted wif such comments :47:
so y din u answer my qn?
1. yr assertions r nonsenses without facts?
2. wat u asserted will auto translate into a holy truth?
3. u r still a coward who dun dare to substantiate yr claims issit?
if u dun dare to acknowledge yr shit, dun anywhere shit in the future lest ppl bring yr shit to ask u to prove its dna :47:
Anybody will brain would query for facts to backup assertions regarding (1), (2), (3), which may not be true, so we would like to know any facts to back up. :rolleyes:
Originally Posted by Ringo33
JLD are not limited to people living in jurong because (1) people from all over Singapore do come to Jurong for work and now to shop. (2) In terms of spending power, Jurong has got one of the highest percentage of middle age residents, and (3) this is the group which high spending power.
If you have brain that is still functioning, then you should be using facts and date to support your counter argument instead of1, 2 and 3.
dun tink im tat stupid to forget wat u asserted wif such comments :47:
so y din u answer my qn?
1. yr assertions r nonsenses without facts?
2. wat u asserted will auto translate into a holy truth?
3. u r still a coward who dun dare to substantiate yr claims issit?
if u dun dare to acknowledge yr shit, dun anywhere shit in the future lest ppl bring yr shit to ask u to prove its dna :47:
I think the real coward are those who like to use multiply forum account in the forum without knowing that it doesnt make you any more intelligent than before.
And yes, please keep talking about falling glasses because that pretty much what you are capable of.
If you have brain that is still functioning, then you should be using facts and date to support your counter argument instead of1, 2 and 3.
the above applies to u, since the 3 allegations were made by u, isnt it? dun think readers r dumb till the extent tat they will mistook these to be claimed by teddy! :doh:
omg! u mean u really feel ppl here r retarded meh? :doh:
I think the real coward are those who like to use multiply forum account in the forum without knowing that it doesnt make you any more intelligent than before.
And yes, please keep talking about falling glasses because that pretty much what you are capable of.
ppl who changed a new account = coward?
if not I purposely hint explictly to u, u r still not able to identify me!! :doh:
tell me how shd I describe ppl who always fail to substantiate their claims when others contest them? hero issit?
so hero, can answer my qns aldy?
if u hv made a wrong stmt, admit it. wat could be worse den being despised by women for having no balls to back up wat u hv said? :47:
I am not a jurong resident and no interest in Jurong properties, but the fact is that jurong is going to be the 2nd largest commercial district outside CBD, with multitude of amenities parks, hotels, and there are only limited land for private condo there....
Withe the amount of publicity and investment the gahmen is putting in there and the elevated ura pedestrian walkway connecting all buildings there, it's going to be damn impressive and accessible, imagine walking g from building to building without ever touching a traffic light and not exposed to the sun, rain,
I for one am is very impressed with joy masterplan although I am a D10 guy....
I am sure the residents of Jld especially JG, Ivory heights, with jurong gateway right at their door steps will enjoy convenience that only those staying within walking distance to orchard and botanic garden will enjoy....
Other than orchard and botanic garden stretch,and Jld, no precinct in Singapore offer 5 varied and different malls with a huge park, so I do rate jld very highly...
Whether it will be atas or not doesn't matter to the middle class residents there and the other 70% of singapore and as their aspirations will never take them to CCR.... so jld cater to a very different market, the plans will bring it up from lower middle class precinct to a middle to upper middle class precinct
When Dulwich College in Bukit Batok opens its door in 2015, we are going to see more expats moving to the west and this will help elevate the rental market around JLD.
Another important thing to note is that in the Master Plan 2013, URA has rezoned the entire Jurong Country Club from Sports and Recreation to Reserved Site. So our government is already thinking of expanding Jurong Gateway once existing sites are fully occupied.
which part of what I said you wish to dispute, and with what are you going to use to dispute what I said?
lol, I dont have to dispute with you, i ask where you get your fact from? If you find it hard to answer, is either words come out from you is crap or you are simply clueless of answering my question.
lol, I dont have to dispute with you, i ask where you get your fact from? If you find it hard to answer, is either words come out from you is crap or you are simply clueless of answering my question.
You don't deserve my time so please stop asking these childish questions.
You don't deserve my time so please stop asking these childish questions.
now u noe y ppl ask u to stop hard selling jld?
cos yr words lacks credibility.
u r doin a deservice to all jurong residents :47:
proud owner
01-12-13, 20:25
just curious ...
how does one check if someone has multiple accounts ?
just curious ...
how does one check if someone has multiple accounts ?
check their ip address if u hv the means.
if unable, den quite hard cos most ppl wun admit one la.
just curious ...
how does one check if someone has multiple accounts ?
Smell ?
Smell Fishy :beats-me-man::D
Smell ?
Smell Fishy :beats-me-man::D
lol ... I can go n create one more acct n i can bet u wun be able to smell my presence :47:
proud owner
01-12-13, 20:38
check their ip address if u hv the means.
if unable, den quite hard cos most ppl wun admit one la.
I eat full no shit to crap ....hahahaha
rather watch my HGTV
aiyoh still at it.. GO WEST!!! like petshop boys song also have Sing..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NZ04BG7TfA
lol ... I can go n create one more acct n i can bet u wun be able to smell my presence :47:
Leopard can't change it's spots....so your style of writing will expose yourself in the long run...:D!
Leopard can't change it's spots....so your style of writing will expose yourself in the long run...:D!
I can easily change my leopard style to panda style :tongue3:
if u wan, I can sound like a guy too :D
I can easily change my leopard style to panda style :tongue3:
if u wan, I can sound like a guy too :D
but when you open your mouth we will know you are an empty vessel loh...
btw, some concrete structure at orchard tower has fallen. should we avoid orchard now?
but when you open your mouth we will know you are an empty vessel loh...
whether Im an empty vessel or small broken sampan, I suppose Im not tat impt & famous until everyone will be eager to noe.
on the other hand, Im sure everyone will be very keen to hear from u if u considered yrself a full vessel :47:
btw, some concrete structure at orchard tower has fallen. should we avoid orchard now?
u wanna noe my stand on orchard ar? can! answer my backlogs qns I will give u a satisfactory reply!
haha! :D
p/s: dun worry Im a woman of my words; I will honour my promise wor!
but when you open your mouth we will know you are an empty vessel loh...
btw, some concrete structure at orchard tower has fallen. should we avoid orchard now?
avoid orchard and JLD at all cost.
which part of what I said you wish to dispute, and with what are you going to use to dispute what I said?
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! you even got the part of rental yield wrong!!!
please lah, you've already dug yourself (and still digging) a hole since the days when you claim that there will be a third IR at jurong
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! you even got the part of rental yield wrong!!!
please lah, you've already dug yourself (and still digging) a hole since the days when you claim that there will be a third IR at jurong
again, there is nothing worth reading..
West gate opened today, the fountains look beautiful. To be frank jurong east is changing.
JLD are not limited to people living in jurong because people from all over Singapore do come to Jurong for work and now to shop. In terms of spending power, Jurong has got one of the highest percentage of middle age residents, and this is the group which high spending power.
The percentage represents % of household earning >$10k/mth. How do you reach the conclusion that Jurong is full of moneyed middle-aged residents?
Tanglin 62%
Bukit Timah 60%
River Valley 57%
Singapore River 56%
Others 55%
Newton 52%
Mandai 48%
Marine Parade 34%
Bishan 33%
Novena 33%
Serangoon 31%
Pasir Ris 29%
Bukit Batok 26%
Bedok 25%
Clementi 24%
Punggol 23%
Downtown Core 23%
Choa Chu Kang 22%
Bukit Panjang 22%
Sengkang 21%
Hougang 21%
Tampines 21%
Sembawang 20%
Queenstown 20%
Jurong East 19%
Kallang 17%
Ang Mo Kio 17%
Toa Payoh 17%
Geylang 17%
Bukit Merah 16%
Rochor 16%
Jurong West 15%
Yishun 14%
Woodlands 14%
Changi 14%
Outram 10%
http://www.singstat.gov.sg/publications/publications_and_papers/cop2010/census_2010_release3/excel/t18-22.xls
Patrickstar
03-12-13, 00:54
I have also visited westgate, thought it was quite impressive, but I am not sure how retailers in jem, jcube n Westgate are going to survive when they are all clamouring for business from mainly jurong folks.
West gate opened today, the fountains look beautiful. To be frank jurong east is changing.
I have also visited westgate, thought it was quite impressive, but I am not sure how retailers in jem, jcube n Westgate are going to survive when they are all clamouring for business from mainly jurong folks.
Yup, heard from few shops in JEM complaining about their business, wondering how are they going to sustain.
dun nid to worry for jem or westgate, they hv rich middle age resident R33 to patronise their business :47:
Yup, heard from few shops in JEM complaining about their business, wondering how are they going to sustain.
only foodcourt will survive.
The percentage represents % of household earning >$10k/mth. How do you reach the conclusion that Jurong is full of moneyed middle-aged residents?
Tanglin 62%
Bukit Timah 60%
River Valley 57%
Singapore River 56%
Others 55%
Newton 52%
Mandai 48%
Marine Parade 34%
Bishan 33%
Novena 33%
Serangoon 31%
Pasir Ris 29%
Bukit Batok 26%
Bedok 25%
Clementi 24%
Punggol 23%
Downtown Core 23%
Choa Chu Kang 22%
Bukit Panjang 22%
Sengkang 21%
Hougang 21%
Tampines 21%
Sembawang 20%
Queenstown 20%
Jurong East 19%
Kallang 17%
Ang Mo Kio 17%
Toa Payoh 17%
Geylang 17%
Bukit Merah 16%
Rochor 16%
Jurong West 15%
Yishun 14%
Woodlands 14%
Changi 14%
Outram 10%
http://www.singstat.gov.sg/publications/publications_and_papers/cop2010/census_2010_release3/excel/t18-22.xls
thanks kool for providing this fact to shut ringo up. if you cant backup your on quote, you always will get backfired.
stalingrad
03-12-13, 09:23
Yup, heard from few shops in JEM complaining about their business, wondering how are they going to sustain.
If few shops complained, most of them will survive, if not all. Then, what is your problem with JEM?
Yup, heard from few shops in JEM complaining about their business, wondering how are they going to sustain.
Still early days, when the hospital and the office building is ready and occupied, there will be more people in the area
U have to take population in each estate and multiply by % to get absolute number.... Then it will make sense...
http://www.citypopulation.de/Singapore.html
Name Adm. CD C 2000-06-30 r CD C 2010-06-30 r
i
Ang Mo Kio NE 180,112 179,297
i
Bedok E 284,318 294,519
i
Bishan C 89,746 91,298
i
Bukit Batok W 126,200 144,198
i
Bukit Merah C 148,299 157,122
i
Bukit Panjang W 96,031 128,734
i
Bukit Timah C 64,361 70,314
i
Choa Chu Kang W 136,105 173,291
i
Clementi W 90,864 91,874
i
Downtown Core C 4,624 3,722
i
Geylang C 118,565 120,690
i
Hougang NE 203,402 216,697
i
Jurong East W 88,883 88,118
i
Jurong West W 203,838 267,524
i
Kallang C 92,099 99,559
i
Marine Parade C 46,306 47,318
i
Newton C 6,147 6,242
i
Novena C 42,823 46,640
i
Outram C 22,228 19,859
i
Pasir Ris E 116,245 133,863
i
Punggol NE ... 59,386
i
Queenstown C 97,684 98,502
i
River Valley C 9,403 8,206
i
Rochor C 17,994 15,664
i
Sembawang N 31,418 72,732
i
Sengkang NE 60,870 167,054
i
Serangoon NE 122,205 124,782
i
Tampines E 252,448 261,743
i
Tanglin C 13,769 17,293
i
Toa Payoh C 121,004 124,653
i
Woodlands N 186,805 245,109
i
Yishun N 176,689 185,214
The percentage represents % of household earning >$10k/mth. How do you reach the conclusion that Jurong is full of moneyed middle-aged residents?
Tanglin 62%
Bukit Timah 60%
River Valley 57%
Singapore River 56%
Others 55%
Newton 52%
Mandai 48%
Marine Parade 34%
Bishan 33%
Novena 33%
Serangoon 31%
Pasir Ris 29%
Bukit Batok 26%
Bedok 25%
Clementi 24%
Punggol 23%
Downtown Core 23%
Choa Chu Kang 22%
Bukit Panjang 22%
Sengkang 21%
Hougang 21%
Tampines 21%
Sembawang 20%
Queenstown 20%
Jurong East 19%
Kallang 17%
Ang Mo Kio 17%
Toa Payoh 17%
Geylang 17%
Bukit Merah 16%
Rochor 16%
Jurong West 15%
Yishun 14%
Woodlands 14%
Changi 14%
Outram 10%
http://www.singstat.gov.sg/publications/publications_and_papers/cop2010/census_2010_release3/excel/t18-22.xls
It is normal for some shops to close down in the inital one year, then new tenants will come in after that...
Just as long you see lotsa shoppers in the mall then its a matter of tenant mix only and once the mall has settled down it will be business as usual...
Do you rememver vivo city when they first opened? it was an empty mall with lotsa complains about car park direction signs etc, see what happen now! boom town charlie!
Capitamall sure crowded, which capitamall you see not crowded and not doing well?
It is normal for some shops to close down in the inital one year, then new tenants will come in after that...
Just as long you see lotsa shoppers in the mall then its a matter of tenant mix only and once the mall has settled down it will be business as usual...
Do you rememver vivo city when they first opened? it was an empty mall with lotsa complains about car park direction signs etc, see what happen now! boom town charlie!
Capitamall sure crowded, which capitamall you see not crowded and not doing well?
With Jcube and Imm also under them, they can also provide free shuttle bus between the 3 shopping mall to cater to those who are lazy to walk
Patrickstar
03-12-13, 14:24
Big time retailers can afford to leverage on the other outlets that are profitable, first time business owners/retailers are the ones that will shut first. Till now I wonder how those shops selling hp cases can survive on the ground floor paying exorbitant rent.
Yup, heard from few shops in JEM complaining about their business, wondering how are they going to sustain.
Big time retailers can afford to leverage on the other outlets that are profitable, first time business owners/retailers are the ones that will shut first. Till now I wonder how those shops selling hp cases can survive on the ground floor paying exorbitant rent.
allowing imaginations to run a little wilder, they may be shell companies for ah longs or SS activities
Patrickstar
03-12-13, 15:44
Think for cover up any hdb shophouse can liao, cheaper in rent also
allowing imaginations to run a little wilder, they may be shell companies for ah longs or SS activities
Huat ah!!
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Huat ah!!
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CMA shares will move up with rental income from two additional malls in Singapore. Hope to have better dividends in the next quarter. :)
thanks kool for providing this fact to shut ringo up. if you cant backup your on quote, you always will get backfired.
dont waste my time
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1570/6kr1.jpg
that's all you can muster? using capitaland's slides??
:doh::doh:
directly from HDB, jurong E not even in top 5. plus, u really trust that JEM's going to cannibalize jurong point's and west mall's clientele without competition?
kam gong
2008TownsAverageMedianBukit Timah8,0536,560Punggol7,6336,569Bishan7,3596,420Pasir Ris7,2765,887SengKang6,7535,648Sembawang6,5615,252Jurong East6,3225,175Queenstown5,9853,999Choa Chu Kang5,9195,064Clementi5,8873,986Bukit Panjang5,8494,662Woodlands5,8074,637Tampines5,7664,484Serangoon5,7374,790Marine Parade5,7184,206Jurong West5,6334,710Toa Payoh5,5834,258Hougang5,5614,425Bukit Batok5,4474,110Yishun5,3874,208Bedok4,9703,825Bukit Merah4,9503,478Kallang/Whampoa4,7783,144Ang Mo Kio4,5973,551Geylang4,1653,077
URA even create a new video presentation for Jurong Lake District...
dont pray pray..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq7SOYpCUeo
URA even create a new video presentation for Jurong Lake District...
dont pray pray..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq7SOYpCUeo
:cheers4:!
Allthepies
07-12-13, 10:33
Great news for humble residents in the West!!!:):):):)
So shiok... ultra convenience....
When govt is pouring so much money into jurong it will huat. Never underestimate its potiential.
was there last night and like what I saw
some shops still under reno
West cheong arrhh !!!
Govt also poured so much money into Punggol, Never underestimate its potential! (even though we know it has been >15 years already and still nothing much out of it)... :doh:
When govt is pouring so much money into jurong it will huat. Never underestimate its potiential.
Govt pour even more $ in marina area. All CCR huat arh...
Govt also poured so much money into Punggol, Never underestimate its potential! (even though we know it has been >15 years already and still nothing much out of it)... :doh:
Teddy, punggol21 never really happened
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punggol_New_Town
However, Punggol 21 did not materalise fully as Singapore's economy was affected by the Asian economic crisis in 1997. Although construction began the next year, it was stopped when demand for new flats fell sharply. Plans were again delayed when the construction industry in Singapore experienced financial troubles in 2003. As a result, only some 16,000 flats, out of the 80,000 planned units, have been built as at 2007. There is only one shopping mall in the estate, Punggol Plaza, and there are no recreational facilities like cinemas or swimming pools.
Govt also poured so much money into Punggol, Never underestimate its potential! (even though we know it has been >15 years already and still nothing much out of it)... :doh:
which part of JLD has not work since it was announced in 2008.
Teddy, punggol21 never really happened
.
..which is just a gd example, that when gov "announced bold plans" for X Y or Z, th success of it depends totally on many factors, mostly external. Success is not a given.
It's alright to believe in this JLD story. It is also completely right to doubt it. I am on the negative side. Certain factors of jurong had been there for the last 30 yrs. it takes decades to be transformed. If SG remains prosperous in the next decade, this could be possible, however the same transformation can also be seen in many other parts of SG too if we are so lucky to remain "oasis of SE Asia". Jurong is hardly the last frontier of SG.
..which is just a gd example, that when gov "announced bold plans" for X Y or Z, th success of it depends totally on many factors, mostly external. Success is not a given.
It's alright to believe in this JLD story. It is also completely right to doubt it. I am on the negative side. Certain factors of jurong had been there for the last 30 yrs. it takes decades to be transformed. If SG remains prosperous in the next decade, this could be possible, however the same transformation can also be seen in many other parts of SG too if we are so lucky to remain "oasis of SE Asia". Jurong is hardly the last frontier of SG.
Brudder, honestly.... When external calamities happen... Like afc, SARS, etc... All monies will be used for revival purposes (by govt).... It's survival mode....
When major recession happens, everything drops... Property prices, stocks, loss of jobs, etc....
The question is when is the next major recession??? Hahahaha
..which is just a gd example, that when gov "announced bold plans" for X Y or Z, th success of it depends totally on many factors, mostly external. Success is not a given.
It's alright to believe in this JLD story. It is also completely right to doubt it. I am on the negative side. Certain factors of jurong had been there for the last 30 yrs. it takes decades to be transformed. If SG remains prosperous in the next decade, this could be possible, however the same transformation can also be seen in many other parts of SG too if we are so lucky to remain "oasis of SE Asia". Jurong is hardly the last frontier of SG.
Could you pin point to us what exactly in the URA JLD master plan that you are doubting? I guess not.
..which is just a gd example, that when gov "announced bold plans" for X Y or Z, th success of it depends totally on many factors, mostly external. Success is not a given.
It's alright to believe in this JLD story. It is also completely right to doubt it. I am on the negative side. Certain factors of jurong had been there for the last 30 yrs. it takes decades to be transformed. If SG remains prosperous in the next decade, this could be possible, however the same transformation can also be seen in many other parts of SG too if we are so lucky to remain "oasis of SE Asia". Jurong is hardly the last frontier of SG.
Im oso on the negative side, not becos I dun believe in JLD story, but rather, I believe a person makes money at the point where he buys a ppty, n not at the point of selling it.
JLD can cont'd to grow, but if the selling price of JG is high till a point where the mkt cannot digest, how fantastic JLD story oso gonna be juz another fairy tale.
Brudder, honestly.... When external calamities happen... Like afc, SARS, etc... All monies will be used for revival purposes (by govt).... It's survival mode.... a
It *doesn't* have to be recession. There is nothing special abt SG that it must be rich all the time. Thailand has huge potential if not because of politics. Malaysia, can well be better than SG in so many areas, once the leader wakes up and be bold. And others. It is already tough for us to keep status quo. Whatever grand URA plan, is a plan. Nothing goes according to plan. I personally would love to see JLD to be a success, because that would mean many other areas will be success too. I'm just not that excited about it, and certainly will not bet big on it.
Alot of people still don't understand. If u put water and fertilizer on the land, trees, plants, flowers, grass will grow. If u pour money into the land u see value will grow too.
It *doesn't* have to be recession. There is nothing special abt SG that it must be rich all the time. Thailand has huge potential if not because of politics. Malaysia, can well be better than SG in so many areas, once the leader wakes up and be bold. And others. It is already tough for us to keep status quo. Whatever grand URA plan, is a plan. Nothing goes according to plan. I personally would love to see JLD to be a success, because that would mean many other areas will be success too. I'm just not that excited about it, and certainly will not bet big on it.
This is a picture of Jurong East MRT in 2008. So why not tell which part of the plan was not being executed?
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8461/9ou2.jpg
This is updated from URA.
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/1774/4jyy.jpg
it is same as Malaysia lor.
Last time pour money into JB "city centre", so value grow.
Then shift focus to JB Iskandar, so value there now grow.
Next time will shift focus to JB Jaskandar, value there will next grow too!
But what happened to JB city centre now? I think you should know the answer! Do you want to be stuck with a property with JB city centre where there are few buyers? Is there any price to predict what will happen to Iskandar as well once focus shift to Jaskandar?
The same lesson can be learned and apply to Punggol -> Marina Bay -> JLD -> Greater Marina Area -> ???
Alot of people still don't understand. If u put water and fertilizer on the land, trees, plants, flowers, grass will grow. If u pour money into the land u see value will grow too.
it is same as Malaysia lor.
Last time pour money into JB "city centre", so value grow.
Then shift focus to JB Iskandar, so value there now grow.
Next time will shift focus to JB Jaskandar, value there will next grow too!
But what happened to JB city centre now? I think you should know the answer! Do you want to be stuck with a property with JB city centre where there are few buyers? Is there any price to predict what will happen to Iskandar as well once focus shift to Jaskandar?
The same lesson can be learned and apply to Punggol -> Marina Bay -> JLD -> Greater Marina Area -> ???
Dont degrade and insult Singapore property investors by comparing Singapore to Malaysia government execution record.
Alot of people still don't understand. If u put water and fertilizer on the land, trees, plants, flowers, grass will grow. If u pour money into the land u see value will grow too.
some lands r barren, btw :tongue3:
tis analogy is not suitable to describe the debate here.
it is same as Malaysia lor.
Last time pour money into JB "city centre", so value grow.
Then shift focus to JB Iskandar, so value there now grow.
Next time will shift focus to JB Jaskandar, value there will next grow too!
But what happened to JB city centre now? I think you should know the answer! Do you want to be stuck with a property with JB city centre where there are few buyers? Is there any price to predict what will happen to Iskandar as well once focus shift to Jaskandar?
The same lesson can be learned and apply to Punggol -> Marina Bay -> JLD -> Greater Marina Area -> ???
reminds me of last time they oso pour our hard earned $ in suzhou industrial park. so wat happened?
the moral is tat pour money nid not necc always be profitable.
as for msia, even got cfm plus chopped I oso wun invest.
Y?
rm is a depreciating currency agst s$. no matter wat, u aldy incur a translation loss.
reminds me of last time they oso pour our hard earned $ in suzhou industrial park. so wat happened?
the moral is tat pour money nid not necc always be profitable.
as for msia, even got cfm plus chopped I oso wun invest.
Y?
rm is a depreciating currency agst s$. no matter wat, u aldy incur a translation loss.
So in Singapore context....
When the economy is booming, Pour money means - more upside vs other regions....
When economy bad, u think pour money will have any effect??? People will be losing job, worrying about next meal, etc....
So everything needs to be done on a holistic fashion....
Masterplan 2013 will only be good if the economy is doing well.... If it drops, then stocks will drop and properties will drop and coe will drop....
reminds me of last time they oso pour our hard earned $ in suzhou industrial park. so wat happened?
the moral is tat pour money nid not necc always be profitable.
as for msia, even got cfm plus chopped I oso wun invest.
Y?
rm is a depreciating currency agst s$. no matter wat, u aldy incur a translation loss.
Please stop talking nonsense lah. If you keep quiet no one will say you are a mute..
So exactly how much have government pump into Jurong Gateway?
From your chart, Jurong household average monthly income is only $142 above national average, so why do you need to exaggerate to say that "In terms of spending power, Jurong has got one of the highest percentage of middle age residents"
dont waste my time
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1570/6kr1.jpg
I have also visited westgate, thought it was quite impressive, but I am not sure how retailers in jem, jcube n Westgate are going to survive when they are all clamouring for business from mainly jurong folks.
The westage is indeed cannibalizing JEM - the Robinson in JEM is eerily quiet on Sat nite
So in Singapore context....
When the economy is booming, Pour money means - more upside vs other regions....
When economy bad, u think pour money will have any effect??? People will be losing job, worrying about next meal, etc....
So everything needs to be done on a holistic fashion....
Masterplan 2013 will only be good if the economy is doing well.... If it drops, then stocks will drop and properties will drop and coe will drop....
of cos when economy is bad, u pour how much oso not much impact. wat Im highlighting is tat it doesnt mean tat u pour, u will see capital appreciation.
u dun tell me if my child is stupid, by hiting top teachers i can groom him to be a talent? :doh:
Please stop talking nonsense lah. If you keep quiet no one will say you are a mute..
So exactly how much have government pump into Jurong Gateway?
is tis the quality of calibre n upbringing tat u hv inherited? :doh:
wat a shame! :D
The westage is indeed cannibalizing JEM - the Robinson in JEM is eerily quiet on Sat nite
Yesterday i visited both Westgate, Jem & Jcube. I prefer Jem it has most trendy shops and dining area. Also, at night Jem dining look more cousy to dine at. However, i think they should introduce some good famous dining pubs selling beer/wine to chill out and stuff. This will surely make the place more vibrant at night. My second best is Jcube iceskating they should have many such activity sports in surrounding malls and it will surely make the mall special for kids. Too bad the Westgate kids corner not up yet and many of the shops cater Japfood and some shops never heard before (looks new local spring-ups)not many international shops are open either. However there were a few retail shops offering 50%. Most of my shopping was at Jem,
Mark & Spencer was great, i hope they introduce Metro too. It's always nice to shop at Metro. At Westgate i have seen so many Challenger malls. It's puzzling, why so many of them, got mini challenger someore..eyesore...
In overall the Jem Christmas deco was nice... Westgate has a nice colourful fountain. Nice to see kids playing with water... Once the
J-Gateway is built the ambience of the place will look great!!!
From your chart, Jurong household average monthly income is only $142 above national average, so why do you need to exaggerate to say that "In terms of spending power, Jurong has got one of the highest percentage of middle age residents"
becos we suspected tat he is vested in JG (till date he has yet to hv balls to admit), so he nid to hard sell n exaggerate the effects of JLD.
u cannot tell him orchard/RV has the largest number of high earners wor! later he will say tat u r stupid :p
if u dun wanna incur his wrath, u nid to sing praises of Jurong. Not true nvm, juz dun criticise can liao.
n when he give u promises tat the rental yield in JG will be one of the highest in sg, u cannot say tat is unrealistic n misleading. later he will shoot u for being a greenhorn cos u oni hv 1 ppty.
do expect to hear more of these fm him until he get rid of his JG! :D
is tis the quality of calibre n upbringing tat u hv inherited? :doh:
wat a shame! :D
obviously your parents forget to teach you not to KONG JIAO Wei. thats why till today you keep sprouting nonsense after nonsense.
Dont believe.
Tell us how much did government pour into Jurong Gateway loh. Dont know right??
of cos when economy is bad, u pour how much oso not much impact. wat Im highlighting is tat it doesnt mean tat u pour, u will see capital appreciation.
u dun tell me if my child is stupid, by hiting top teachers i can groom him to be a talent? :doh:
If your kid stupid, u get tutor it helps a mile... If u your child stupid and suffer from ADD/ADHD, tutor is useless... U need to study and learn how to impart skills...;)
This is a picture of Jurong East MRT in 2008. So why not tell which part of the plan was not being executed?
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8461/9ou2.jpg
This is updated from URA.
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/1774/4jyy.jpg
Jg looks like a old engine radiator.
If your kid stupid, u get tutor it helps a mile... If u your child stupid and suffer from ADD/ADHD, tutor is useless... U need to study and learn how to impart skills...;)
helps a lot, I agree, but to catch up nia. Wanna groom them fm borderline to A, hard, if not impossible. even if the stupid child is very hardworking oso cannot hit distinction.
helps a lot, I agree, but to catch up nia. Wanna groom them fm borderline to A, hard, if not impossible. even if the stupid child is very hardworking oso cannot hit distinction.
Nature vs Nurture....
When u have no nature, u need to work damn hard... I have seen many who did not do well in primary school did extremely well in secondary...
Some mature later....
I also believe academic is not the end point... I have seen many street wise doing so much better... Those with EQ did better than those with IQ... Hahahaha
obviously your parents forget to teach you not to KONG JIAO Wei. thats why till today you keep sprouting nonsense after nonsense.
Dont believe.
Tell us how much did government pour into Jurong Gateway loh. Dont know right??
i dunno n not interested to noe if yr parents got teach u to talk so much cock, shit, ill mannerism onot. but judging by yr past track records, even if they oni teach u basic skills nia, u hv alrdy surpassed their expectations.
well done! U really done yr parents proud :D
i dunno n not interested to noe if yr parents got teach u to talk so much cock, shit, ill mannerism onot. but judging by yr past track records, even if they oni teach u basic skills nia, u hv alrdy surpassed their expectations.
well done! U really done yr parents proud :D
stop focusing on the side show, just tell us how much have the government pour into Jurong Gateway over the last 5 years since JLD masterplan was announced,
stop focusing on the side show, just tell us how much have the government pour into Jurong Gateway over the last 5 years since JLD masterplan was announced,
how much they pour in can change the fact tat till now JG remains the highest priced condo in jurong meh?
if can affect, y dun u go n petition govt to pour in more resources so tat we can see some capital appreciation in JG?
So lucky, yr greenhorn fwen de rcr unit which was launched around the time of JG may not hv as many development as JLD but now alrdy enjoyed abt $100psf increase in mkt value wor :cheers5:
how much they pour in can change the fact tat till now JG remains the highest priced condo in jurong meh?
if can affect, y dun u go n petition govt to pour in more resources so tat we can see some capital appreciation in JG?
So lucky, yr greenhorn fwen de rcr unit which was launched around the time of JG may not hv as many development as JLD but now alrdy enjoyed abt $100psf increase in mkt value wor :cheers5:
you mean you dont have a clue about how much the government has pump into JLD and you are going around saying the government is putting too much money in JLD just like Suzhou?
KONG JIAO WEI??? aka TALKING COCK!!??
Why am I not surprise at all.
Like I said before, dont waste time changing your account name, because it will still sound like an empty vessel talking cock.
you mean you dont have a clue about how much the government has pump into JLD and you are going around saying the government is putting too much money in JLD just like Suzhou?
KONG JIAO WEI??? aka TALKING COCK!!??
Why am I not surprise at all.
Like I said before, dont waste time changing your account name, because it will still sound like an empty vessel talking cock.
dun be angry la, Robert33 shushu.
mayb due to the super high potential of JLD, tat ec plot at yuan ching might be selling at a higher price den JG wor! :scared-1: liddat u oso can hv some capital appreciation liao mah :D
dun be angry la, Robert33 shushu.
mayb due to the super high potential of JLD, tat ec plot at yuan ching might be selling at a higher price den JG wor! :scared-1: liddat u oso can hv some capital appreciation liao mah :D
Please stay focus. I am asking you a simple question.
HOW MUCH DID GOVERNMENT PUMP IN JLD. And how is that compare to SUZHOU?
If you dont know just say you dont know and dont need to kong jiao wei.
Allthepies
08-12-13, 21:31
I must say that I regretted not buying J-gateway at 1700psf. During launch time, I felt that at 1700psf there should not be much meat left.
However recently I visited Westgate and saw the two malls seamleasly connected together with Jurong East MRT. And all future development there will be connected together including J-gateway, I immediately realise that J-Gateway will worth much more during TOP if there is no recession.
I was there over the weekend. Westgate layout is a little unique as it has got the open air and aircon section. I will reserve my comment after Jan 2014 when all the shops are open.
However what I certain is that Jurong Gateway has got the best shopping and dining alternative outside CBD, and there are no suburban hub that can rival Jurong Gateway now or anytime soon.
And the best part is that, the J Gateway story is still WIP. According to URA plan, they will be at least 1 or 2 more mix commercial site right next to JE MRT station, so we can expect more shopping mall coming up.
Jurong will never be like Punggol,Punggol are all plans, while jurong plans are all tendered out and I progress, so definitely it will boom, Genting hotel on the way, big box the next to come up, just hope big box have a good anchor tenant, once the elevated walkway is up, connecting all buildings will be really cool...
My only disappointment is that science e centre plans was delayed, if not ura would have extended the waterways to the current science centre jurong town hall road....
The n it will be really cool....
But for those who doubt jurong potential and progress, do go down and drive around and you will see the developments, massive
Jurong will never be like Punggol,Punggol are all plans, while jurong plans are all tendered out and I progress, so definitely it will boom, Genting hotel on the way, big box the next to come up, just hope big box have a good anchor tenant, once the elevated walkway is up, connecting all buildings will be really cool...
My only disappointment is that science e centre plans was delayed, if not ura would have extended the waterways to the current science centre jurong town hall road....
The n it will be really cool....
But for those who doubt jurong potential and progress, do go down and drive around and you will see the developments, massive
I totally agreed :cheers5:.
Should go down to see and feel personally rather than being here as a keyboard hero to talk down JLD :47: .
But for those who doubt jurong potential and progress, do go down and drive around and you will see the developments, massive
I totally agreed :cheers5:.
Should go down to see and feel personally rather than being here as a keyboard hero to talk down JLD :47: .
nobody is doubting JLD potential here. Im bashing abt the overpriced JG :47:
I must say that I regretted not buying J-gateway at 1700psf. During launch time, I felt that at 1700psf there should not be much meat left.
I immediately realise that J-Gateway will worth much more during TOP if there is no recession.
hmm ... so if say no recession, how much do u tink can one expect upon top? $2000psf? or $2200psf?
nobody is doubting JLD potential here. Im bashing abt the overpriced JG :47:
hmm ... so if say no recession, how much do u tink can one expect upon top? $2000psf? or $2200psf?
Why bash? You have not been proven right either.
After last night's event, I have further doubts on Jurong East and the west. The sheer size of migrant workers gathered there on weekends is as large if not larger than Little India.
Why bash? You have not been proven right either.
bashing on R33 lol ....
After last night's event, I have further doubts on Jurong East and the west. The sheer size of migrant workers gathered there on weekends is as large if not larger than Little India.
Designate Chua Chu Kang Cemetary for their meeting venue next time.
Patrickstar
09-12-13, 11:52
Bro, that is a very shallow thinking. Just because got a few malls beside an ocr project doesnt make that project worth buying at sgd1700psf.
I must say that I regretted not buying J-gateway at 1700psf. During launch time, I felt that at 1700psf there should not be much meat left.
However recently I visited Westgate and saw the two malls seamleasly connected together with Jurong East MRT. And all future development there will be connected together including J-gateway, I immediately realise that J-Gateway will worth much more during TOP if there is no recession.
Bro, that is a very shallow thinking. Just because got a few malls beside an ocr project doesnt make that project worth buying at sgd1700psf.
I tot u said say "Just because got a few malls beside an ocr project doesnt make the project sellable at $2000psf"
it is simply too big a risk to take.
Ringo33 VS Regulator
Jurong gateway condo VS Mackenzie 88 (Little India).
Someone few months ago argued Mackenzie will rose higher than Jurong. I don't even dare to stay at Mackenzie or go little india now.
Ringo33 VS Regulator
Jurong gateway condo VS Mackenzie 88 (Little India).
Someone few months ago argued Mackenzie will rose higher than Jurong. I don't even dare to stay at Mackenzie now.
hmmm I remember tis.
wonder if one day riot break out in Jurong, wat will u say?
hmmm I remember tis.
wonder if one day riot break out in Jurong, wat will u say?
So many IF might as well say riot break out at Bartley. :D
So many IF might as well say riot break out at Bartley. :D
it doesn't matter. gurkas is less den 5 mins walk away ;)
if u ask me now given $1700psf will I buy M88 or JG, my answer is M88 :D
like wat Patrick has correctly point out, a mere few malls doesn't auto make an overpriced ocr resi justifiable.
R33 has repeatedly stressed to live near where one work, which in general, I agree.
if given a choice, everyone would rather take 20mins travelling time to work, who is so stupid to take 1hr to work?
BUT, it is kinda short sighted to move to location A simply becos u r working in location A now.
y?
becos who can guarantee tat u will forever work in location A? if one day u change job to location X on the extreme end, does tat means tat one hv to shift home again? :doh:
tat's y many ppl stress "location! location! location!" :p
if I stay some where near to city, I do not nid to worry if I am working in changi today or Jurong a couple of years later :D
If minton condo far from mrt and amenities one bedder can hit above $1400psf i don't see why jurong gateway can't go $1700psf.
Allthepies
09-12-13, 12:29
Bro, that is a very shallow thinking. Just because got a few malls beside an ocr project doesnt make that project worth buying at sgd1700psf.
it not just a few malls, pls go there and feel it yourself, it's the whole area that is undergoing transformation :D:D:D:D
another area that is undergoing transformation is Marina Bay/South area loh, for that area you need to pay 2000 to 4000psf??? :D:D:D
If minton condo far from mrt and amenities one bedder can hit above $1400psf i don't see why jurong gateway can't go $1700psf.
r u telling us tat minton resale is selling like hotcakes now? :D
another area that is undergoing transformation is Marina Bay/South area loh, for that area you need to pay 2000 to 4000psf??? :D:D:D
so would u pay $2000psf for Jurong (best proj) or Marina Bay/South (lousiest proj)? :D
Allthepies
09-12-13, 12:31
nobody is doubting JLD potential here. Im bashing abt the overpriced JG :47:
hmm ... so if say no recession, how much do u tink can one expect upon top? $2000psf? or $2200psf?
close to 1mil for 1 bedder and >1.2mil for 2bedders
close to 1mil for 1 bedder and >1.2mil for 2bedders
wah! u predict JG upon TOP to be closed to 1 mil! tat means is min $2000psf wor!
quote u 1st :p
When I walked into Fitness First at Westgate, my opinion of Jurong East changed.
Allthepies
09-12-13, 12:34
r u telling us tat minton resale is selling like hotcakes now? :D
so would u pay $2000psf for Jurong (best proj) or Marina Bay/South (lousiest proj)? :D
For 2000psf new launch at Marina Bay/South, it is definitely not the lousiest unit, it is probably the biggest unit, >2000sqft?
New launch MM at Marina Bay/South wont be at $2000psf.
Allthepies
09-12-13, 12:35
wah! u predict JG upon TOP to be closed to 1 mil! tat means is min $2000psf wor!
quote u 1st :p
wait for TOP to see :D
Patrickstar
09-12-13, 12:39
Just two questions for you, despite all this transformation, is jurong considered a prime District? Is jurong land more expensive than land in any of the prime districts?
it not just a few malls, pls go there and feel it yourself, it's the whole area that is undergoing transformation :D:D:D:D
another area that is undergoing transformation is Marina Bay/South area loh, for that area you need to pay 2000 to 4000psf??? :D:D:D
When I walked into Fitness First at Westgate, my opinion of Jurong East changed.
so u r very impressed by JE rite?
so I suppose u will be very willing to pay at least $2000psf for JG when TOP hor :D
Little india alot of shop houses that are conservative not allow to tear down. With that kind of environment it is hard to see any prospect. But downtown line will make a difference.
Btw not all jurong gateway condo are sold at $1700psf. Most are about $1500psf to $1600psf on average.
so u r very impressed by JE rite?
so I suppose u will be very willing to pay at least $2000psf for JG when TOP hor :D
Impressed DOES NOT EQUAL TO Willingness to purchase
Impressed DOES NOT EQUAL TO Willingness to purchase
nah! nah! nah!
hear tat? :D
When I walked into Fitness First at Westgate, my opinion of Jurong East changed.
In my sentence, there is no IMPRESSED or WILLINGNESS TO PAY too.
WOW
In my sentence, there is no IMPRESSED or WILLINGNESS TO PAY too.
WOW
wah! wah! wah! ... liddat machiam a guy telling me Im very gd n virtuous yet refuse to marry me wor! :(
Allthepies
09-12-13, 13:04
Just two questions for you, despite all this transformation, is jurong considered a prime District? Is jurong land more expensive than land in any of the prime districts?
prime district already >2000psf currently, in time to come it will move to >3000psf, >4000psf...
I have never compare Jurong to prime, I'm just stating that the future living environment in Jurong East is going to improve dramatically as compared to Jurong East 5 years ago.
there wont be anymore residential plot or at most 1 more plot in Jurong East MRT if I remember correctly, hence J-Gateway is going to be the only 1 or 2 modern condo there...
all these give J-gateway a high chance of appreciating in price....
i'm not vested, just stating my honest opinion...
Allthepies
09-12-13, 13:06
Is Tanah Merah prime land then?
The Glade
22 Oct 2013 6 Bedok Rise #XX-XX New Sale 592 Strata 1,647 975,000 HDB
big size 1 bedder 592sqft transacted at 1647psf!
prime district already >2000psf currently, in time to come it will move to >3000psf, >4000psf...
I have never compare Jurong to prime, I'm just stating that the future living environment in Jurong East is going to improve dramatically as compared to Jurong East 5 years ago.
there wont be anymore residential plot or at most 1 more plot in Jurong East MRT if I remember correctly, hence J-Gateway is going to be the only 1 or 2 modern condo there...
all these give J-gateway a high chance of appreciating in price....
i'm not vested, just stating my honest opinion...
I tink when prime becomes >3000psf, >4000psf... Jurong cannot be below $2000psf.
I tink the qn mark is more of if there is no recession or ppty crash, but prime remains at the current level. will Jurong prices shoot up to above $2000psf & became on par wif prime bo?
Is Tanah Merah prime land then?
The Glade
22 Oct 2013 6 Bedok Rise #XX-XX New Sale 592 Strata 1,647 975,000 HDB
big size 1 bedder 592sqft transacted at 1647psf!
I tot many months back we hv alrdy said urban vista is exp?! :doh:
btw, glades is not moving well wor ...
Allthepies
09-12-13, 13:09
Urban Vista 1714psf??!!!!
https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/images/markers/marker_purple.png OPTIMA @ TANAH MERAH (https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/trends-and-analysis/residential?p=optima-tanah-merah) 99 Yrs FROM 2008 2012 - 1,412 1,412 1,412 2.68 5.16 7.78 4.4 https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/images/markers/markerA.png THE TANAMERA (https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/trends-and-analysis/residential?p=the-tanamera) 99 Yrs FROM 1990 1994 455 846 915 967 2.30 2.89 3.47 3.8 https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/images/markers/markerB.png STRATFORD COURT (https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/trends-and-analysis/residential?p=stratford-court) 99 Yrs FROM 1995 1998 498 929 929 929 1.68 2.83 3.48 3.7 https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/images/markers/markerC.png PALMWOODS (https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/trends-and-analysis/residential?p=palmwoods) 99 Yrs FROM 1996 1999 447 960 960 960 2.52 2.86 3.35 3.6 https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/images/markers/markerD.png EAST MEADOWS (https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/trends-and-analysis/residential?p=east-meadows) 99 Yrs FROM 1998 2002 267 853 971 1,031 2.81 3.36 4.00 4.2 https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/images/markers/markerE.png CASA MERAH (https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/trends-and-analysis/residential?p=casa-merah) 99 Yrs FROM 2006 2009 168 1,191 1,237 1,299 2.33 3.44 5.60 3.3 https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/images/markers/markerF.png URBAN VISTA (https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/trends-and-analysis/residential?p=urban-vista) 99 Yrs FROM 2012 Uncompleted 269 1,101 1,457 1,714 - - - - https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/images/markers/markerG.png THE GLADES (https://www.squarefoot.com.sg/trends-and-analysis/residential?p=the-glades) 99 Yrs FROM 2013 Uncompleted 215 1,252 1,493 1,663 - - - -
Allthepies
09-12-13, 13:14
I tot many months back we hv alrdy said urban vista is exp?! :doh:
btw, glades is not moving well wor ...
why not moving well?
reason 1: too many condo in the areas
reason 2: too little amenities
reason 3: government has no big plan for the area
reason 4: at this psf, better buy J-Gateway or top up for Duo Residences or top up more for Marina Bay/South :D
why not moving well?
reason 1: too many condo in the areas
reason 2: too little amenities
reason 3: government has no big plan for the area
reason 4: at this psf, better buy J-Gateway :D:D
:D
I actually agree wif u, if die die hv to choose between UV & JG, I will oso choose JG.
JG:
not as many condo in Jurong.
govt hv super big plans
many amenities.
I oni hv 1 qn. JG has to price it's rental at min $3100-3200 for 1 bedder in order to conservatively fetch a 5% rental yield. who is the target tenants?
Wild Falcon
09-12-13, 14:00
Unless you consider renting to the indian workers who work at the business park prime tenants.
Is Tanah Merah prime land then?
The Glade
22 Oct 2013 6 Bedok Rise #XX-XX New Sale 592 Strata 1,647 975,000 HDB
big size 1 bedder 592sqft transacted at 1647psf!
I tot u said say "Just because got a few malls beside an ocr project doesnt make the project sellable at $2000psf"
it is simply too big a risk to take.
Hi sis,
No risk no gain leh :rolleyes:.
Hi sis,
No risk no gain leh :rolleyes:.
no need to talk to 玉格格 about JLD and J Gateway wan la
stubborn as a bull :ashamed1::D
wait 玉格格 tells you to "See No Touch" ....:D:cheers1:
no need to talk to 玉格格 about JLD and J Gateway wan la
stubborn as a bull :ashamed1::D
wait 玉格格 tells you to "See No Touch" ....:D:cheers1:
wat see no touch?
u sibeh double std leh.
since u r a west supporter & feel tat JG is not overpriced, y din u buy den :47:
Hi sis,
No risk no gain leh :rolleyes:.
but u buy others is no risk got nothing to lose leh :D
wat see no touch?
u sibeh double std leh.
since u r a west supporter & feel tat JG is not overpriced, y din u buy den :47:
walau
you think I print money ahh ?
now tell you la...Regret big time...can or not :D:scared-4:
trying to get rid of my JB properties to channel it here
walau
you think I print money ahh ?
now tell you la...Regret big time...can or not :D:scared-4:
trying to get rid of my JB properties to channel it here
regret isist? nvm wat, missed the boat still hv expensive boat :D u can always buy from them at $2000psf when JG TOP wat :47:
regret isist? nvm wat, missed the boat still hv expensive boat :D u can always buy from them at $2000psf when JG TOP wat :47:
me aiming Marina South now
was telling myself
Must be one of the owner there one day :cheers1::cheers1:
I must work hard...doubly hard...Jia You !!! :D
me aiming Marina South now
was telling myself
Must be one of the owner there one day :cheers1::cheers1:
I must work hard...doubly hard...Jia You !!! :D
dun sidetrack. tell me r u willing to pay $2ooopsf for JG onot? *evil*
Allthepies
09-12-13, 16:31
I actually agree wif u, if die die hv to choose between UV & JG, I will oso choose JG.
JG:
not as many condo in Jurong.
govt hv super big plans
many amenities.
I oni hv 1 qn. JG has to price it's rental at min $3100-3200 for 1 bedder in order to conservatively fetch a 5% rental yield. who is the target tenants?
yup i agree it may be a stretch for $3100-$3200 for a 1 bedder there, at this rental, one could probably rent an older studio/1bedder in nice area of the city.
coming back to the target of achieving 5% yield, I must say most if not all purchases today is unable to meet the 5% yield... I'm still looking very very hard to spot one.
dun sidetrack. tell me r u willing to pay $2ooopsf for JG onot? *evil*
you ask me this question some more
I don't give you tips :simmering::scared-5:
yup i agree it may be a stretch for $3100-$3200 for a 1 bedder there, at this rental, one could probably rent an older studio/1bedder in nice area of the city.
coming back to the target of achieving 5% yield, I must say most if not all purchases today is unable to meet the 5% yield... I'm still looking very very hard to spot one.
so I will be back to the qn "y buy JG?" since might not get the 5% rental yield n capital appreciation is oso a stetch too.
btw, there r quite a low of ocr projects able to fetch a 5% yield due to the low initial outlay.
you ask me this question some more
I don't give you tips :simmering::scared-5:
chey! wat tips hv u given me b4? :doh:
chey! wat tips hv u given me b4? :doh:
Oh issit never give you tips
then give you a Big Kiss lor
M U A K !!!
next time no more muak if ask that question again :D:D
dun sidetrack. tell me r u willing to pay $2ooopsf for JG onot? *evil*
dont kong jiao wei lah. change name also the same.
clemdale24
09-12-13, 20:42
If minton condo far from mrt and amenities one bedder can hit above $1400psf i don't see why jurong gateway can't go $1700psf.
plenty of better condos than minton and JG in the city fringe are selling at 1300-1500psf. look at boon keng, potong pasir and bartley areas. they are way better. city fringe, near mrt, amenities nearby, good accessibility by expressways.
plenty of better condos than minton and JG in the city fringe are selling at 1300-1500psf. look at boon keng, potong pasir and bartley areas. they are way better. city fringe, near mrt, amenities nearby, good accessibility by expressways.
The are plenty....for sure, then why not drop some names and tell us what you mean by "better" so that we know you are not speaking in tongues.
For shoe box units, 2000 is possible when top....
plenty of better condos than minton and JG in the city fringe are selling at 1300-1500psf. look at boon keng, potong pasir and bartley areas. they are way better. city fringe, near mrt, amenities nearby, good accessibility by expressways.
Ok, so which other better condo in boon keng, potong pasir and bartley areas are within walking distance to 5 shopping mall, hospital, MRT & bus interchange and HDB town center
Ok, so which other better condo in boon keng, potong pasir and bartley areas are within walking distance to 5 shopping mall, hospital, MRT & bus interchange and HDB town center
"PLENTY" BEWARE!!
Ok, so which other better condo in boon keng, potong pasir and bartley areas are within walking distance to 5 shopping mall, hospital, MRT & bus interchange and HDB town center
so u r telling me a person who pays 2.4k rental for an ocr unit near mrt n interchange wif 1 shopping mall, 1 hospital n 1 hdb centre will now be willing to pay $700 more for JG cos it is near 4 extra malls?
sounds stupid to me leh, I can use tis $700 to go to these 4 malls to shop liao.
so u r telling me a person who pays 2.4k rental for an ocr unit near mrt n interchange wif 1 shopping mall, 1 hospital n 1 hdb centre will now be willing to pay $700 more for JG cos it is near 4 extra malls?
sounds stupid to me leh, I can use tis $700 to go to these 4 malls to shop liao.
Stop all the jiao wei lah.
Tell us how much money did government pour into Jurong Gateway so far and how is that comparable to SuZhou?
Stop all the jiao wei lah.
Tell us how much money did government pour into Jurong Gateway so far and how is that comparable to SuZhou?
I find it very amusing.
u claimed tat I tok cock yet u kept asking me qns.
so does tat means u like to listen to cock tales arh?
haha
I find it very amusing.
u claimed tat I tok cock yet u kept asking me qns.
so does tat means u like to listen to cock tales arh?
haha
change name for what. still talking cock as usual.
JLD = Suzhou? Show us the money!!!
Obviously JLD is not Suzhou lah. 1 is the investor got attracted there and got conned, 1 is willing buyer but got conned, how can be the same? Only the willing buyer is stupid lah! :beats-me-man:
change name for what. still talking cock as usual.
JLD = Suzhou? Show us the money!!!
Patrickstar
09-12-13, 23:16
The way you put it is so hilarious, but I agree with you :D
Obviously JLD is not Suzhou lah. 1 is the investor got attracted there and got conned, 1 is willing buyer but got conned, how can be the same? Only the willing buyer is stupid lah! :beats-me-man:
Obviously JLD is not Suzhou lah. 1 is the investor got attracted there and got conned, 1 is willing buyer but got conned, how can be the same? Only the willing buyer is stupid lah! :beats-me-man:
the real stupid ones are those who MTB on shoebox and OCR property. There are statistic to support that actually, so dont need to argue.
The way you put it is so hilarious, but I agree with you :D
dont need to hide behind a fake account to bootlick because the boot will still taste like the same shit it has been stepping on.
Near bus interchange for what? So polluted! :doh:
Near HDB town center for what? So cheapskate! :p
Near 5 shopping malls for what if they do not fulfill the purpose and many shops overlap same things and don't have sufficient varieties and/or don't target the correct audience? :beats-me-man:
Ok, so which other better condo in boon keng, potong pasir and bartley areas are within walking distance to 5 shopping mall, hospital, MRT & bus interchange and HDB town center
Obviously JLD is not Suzhou lah. 1 is the investor got attracted there and got conned, 1 is willing buyer but got conned, how can be the same? Only the willing buyer is stupid lah! :beats-me-man:
Teddy
you so funny lei
might as well say Master Plan 2008 development at JLD and J Gateway are fake :D:D
Near bus interchange for what? So polluted! :doh:
Near HDB town center for what? So cheapskate! :p
Near 5 shopping malls for what if they do not fulfill the purpose and many shops overlap same things and don't have sufficient varieties and/or don't target the correct audience? :beats-me-man:
What people selling a CCR property located within walking distant to Jelita or Cold Storage MRT etc they will make a big hoo haa about it.
So when it comes to OCR property location next to several big malls with international brand, it become cheapskate
perhaps the cheapest part of your body is your stupid brain.
Outside CBD, Holland Village, East Coast Rd/Katong, Dempsey or Robertson/Clark quay offers much more interesting and unique dining experiences than those franchised dining offerings in Jurong Gateway.
I was there over the weekend. Westgate layout is a little unique as it has got the open air and aircon section. I will reserve my comment after Jan 2014 when all the shops are open.
However what I certain is that Jurong Gateway has got the best shopping and dining alternative outside CBD, and there are no suburban hub that can rival Jurong Gateway now or anytime soon.
And the best part is that, the J Gateway story is still WIP. According to URA plan, they will be at least 1 or 2 more mix commercial site right next to JE MRT station, so we can expect more shopping mall coming up.
Outside CBD, Holland Village, East Coast Rd/Katong, Dempsey or Robertson/Clark quay offers much more interesting and unique dining experiences than those franchised dining offerings in Jurong Gateway.
Jurong Gateway is the largest commercial hub outside CBD that offer the widest and the best suburban malls in Singapore.
Unfortunately, Jurong Gateway doesnt have the whores that you can find at Ochard Tower, Joo Chiat, Katong, Geylang night clubs. so in that aspect, I got to agree with you that Jurong Gateway is not comparable.
Ok, so which other better condo in boon keng, potong pasir and bartley areas are within walking distance to 5 shopping mall, hospital, MRT & bus interchange and HDB town center
My tampines friends say their town centre got Tampines Mall, Century Square and Tampines 1. There's a ikea, courts, giant megamall with lots of carpark spaces under 5 minutes drive.
Okaya agree there is no hospital in tampines town centre, but there will be downtown line coming in 2017.
Jurong Gateway is the largest commercial hub outside CBD that offer the widest and the best suburban malls in Singapore.
Unfortunately, Jurong Gateway doesnt have the whores that you can find at Ochard Tower, Joo Chiat, Katong, Geylang night clubs. so in that aspect, I got to agree with you that Jurong Gateway is not comparable.
We are talking about dining venues outside CBD, and Mr Ringo has to degenerate the discussion into whores? Alamak
Haha ... I think I should "never argue with an idiot, or he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."
My tampines friends say their town centre got Tampines Mall, Century Square and Tampines 1. There's a ikea, courts, giant megamall with lots of carpark spaces under 5 minutes drive.
Okaya agree there is no hospital in tampines town centre, but there will be downtown line coming in 2017.
My jurong friend tell me that within 5 to 10 mins walk, they can go to 4 big shopping malls, 2 hospitals, 2 big cinemas chain, Isetan, NTUC Xtra, Giant, Cold Storage, Robinson, NTUC, National Library, Borders, Kinokuniya, Science Center, Hotel, country club, park, garden, MRT station and plenty of work,
And yes, 5 to 10 WALK, and there will be CRL and JRL line by 2025
We are talking about dining venues outside CBD, and Mr Ringo has to degenerate the discussion into whores? Alamak
Haha ... I think I should "never argue with an idiot, or he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."
You were talking about dining venues, I am talking about Jurong Gateway as a whole. So no difference if I choose to talk about whore right? Which part of the whore that I said what wrong btw?
You were talking about dining venues, I am talking about Jurong Gateway as a whole. So no difference if I choose to talk about whore right? Which part of the whore that I said what wrong btw?
hahahahaha ..... i am not going to argue with an idiot, or he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
hahahahaha ..... i am not going to argue with an idiot, or he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
being a copy cat is not going to get you anywhere, and I am sure you tampines friend will can attest to that. so please learn to be original learn to tell facts instead of lies.
Outside CBD, Holland Village, East Coast Rd/Katong, Dempsey or Robertson/Clark quay offers much more interesting and unique dining experiences than those franchised dining offerings in Jurong Gateway.
Hi k00L
You must be a food lover
bet you will come to J Gateway some day and find your favourite
you will be spoilt for choice if you are :D
clemdale24
10-12-13, 06:41
Ok, so which other better condo in boon keng, potong pasir and bartley areas are within walking distance to 5 shopping mall, hospital, MRT & bus interchange and HDB town center
Eight riversuites, sennett, sant ritz, venue residences, bartley ridge/ residencees... or if will ur willing to pay 1700psf can even buy citysquare residences in farrer park.
No one needs 5 shopping malls. thats retarded. its not as if u spend monday to friday in the malls - 1 mall per day. all u need is one suburban, rather basic mall. all the shops are so generic anw, u can only buy that much clothes and that much food. in fact i think nowadays the older generation (>50 yo) do not like going to malls so much, only once in a while.
hospital? i do NOT want to live next to a hospital. the idea of that... doesnt seem to sit with me very well. im sure im not the only one. if its a pvt hospital like mount elizabeth, yes maybe. but if u r talking about jurong hospital, no thanks. even tan tock seng... i dont want a condo directly next to it. a 10min walk from it would be so much better. even a 10min drive wouldnt matter.
mrt interchange? yes of course its good. but exposed tracks? NO THANKS. imagine the continuous noise for about 18hours per day, the dust, the unsightly tracks... bad. bad. bad.
bus interchange? well... who cares abt this. as long as it is near a few bus stops with good connectivity around the island, who cares bus interchange or not?
hdb town centre - the aforementioned condos are all near town centres save for the bartley ones.
Jurong Gateway is the largest commercial hub outside CBD that offer the widest and the best suburban malls in Singapore.
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kam gong, IS jurong the largest commercial hub, outside of CBD yet?
dining experience? what's so special about dining in a shopping mall with cookie cutter restaurants that you can get elsewhere easily? oh wait, jurong residents must be really deprived for all these years and ignorant that they can easily get their food fix all around singapore
Eight riversuites, sennett, sant ritz, venue residences, bartley ridge/ residencees... or if will ur willing to pay 1700psf can even buy citysquare residences in farrer park.
No one needs 5 shopping malls. thats retarded. its not as if u spend monday to friday in the malls - 1 mall per day. all u need is one suburban, rather basic mall. all the shops are so generic anw, u can only buy that much clothes and that much food. in fact i think nowadays the older generation (>50 yo) do not like going to malls so much, only once in a while.
hospital? i do NOT want to live next to a hospital. the idea of that... doesnt seem to sit with me very well. im sure im not the only one. if its a pvt hospital like mount elizabeth, yes maybe. but if u r talking about jurong hospital, no thanks. even tan tock seng... i dont want a condo directly next to it. a 10min walk from it would be so much better. even a 10min drive wouldnt matter.
mrt interchange? yes of course its good. but exposed tracks? NO THANKS. imagine the continuous noise for about 18hours per day, the dust, the unsightly tracks... bad. bad. bad.
bus interchange? well... who cares abt this. as long as it is near a few bus stops with good connectivity around the island, who cares bus interchange or not?
hdb town centre - the aforementioned condos are all near town centres save for the bartley ones.
there is a reason why some love J-gateway,
pay high high prices to live beside exposed MRT tracks
get haunted by noise pollution everyday till insomnia and depression
everyday can go to the malls to enjoy the crowd and jostling and get a lagi worse quality of life
can find no peace so have to go makan at restaurants to destress
develop health problems but everyday can go see doctor since it's only a 10min walk away
My previous list is not complete, let's make it more complete:
Near bus interchange for what? So polluted! :doh:
Near HDB town center for what? So cheapskate! :p
Near 5 shopping malls for what if they do not fulfill the purpose and many shops overlap same things and don't have sufficient varieties and/or don't target the correct audience? :beats-me-man:
Near MRT station for what if the station and track and above ground and the noise is getting from terrible to worse as they ages? :(
Near hospital for what when it is a public one and it will not have sufficient rooms and sufficient experienced hands-on doctors and waiting time and appointment to see the doctors are super long? :o
Do you see any real prime CCR property listing it's selling points as being near bus interchange and near above ground MRT station and near HDB town center? :rolleyes:
What people selling a CCR property located within walking distant to Jelita or Cold Storage MRT etc they will make a big hoo haa about it.
So when it comes to OCR property location next to several big malls with international brand, it become cheapskate
perhaps the cheapest part of your body is your stupid brain.
Ok, so which other better condo in boon keng, potong pasir and bartley areas are within walking distance to 5 shopping mall, hospital, MRT & bus interchange and HDB town center
My previous list is not complete, let's make it more complete:
Near bus interchange for what? So polluted! :doh:
Near HDB town center for what? So cheapskate! :p
Near 5 shopping malls for what if they do not fulfill the purpose and many shops overlap same things and don't have sufficient varieties and/or don't target the correct audience? :beats-me-man:
Near MRT station for what if the station and track and above ground and the noise is getting from terrible to worse as they ages? :(
Near hospital for what when it is a public one and it will not have sufficient rooms and sufficient experienced hands-on doctors and waiting time and appointment to see the doctors are super long? :o
Do you see any real prime CCR property listing it's selling points as being near bus interchange and near above ground MRT station and near HDB town center? :rolleyes:
If you are worry about road traffic pollution, then you better no live along orchard road because there will be more buses and cars passes that area as compared to any interchange in Singapore.
So again, dont be so cheapskate, go fix your brain.
there is a reason why some love J-gateway,
pay high high prices to live beside exposed MRT tracks
get haunted by noise pollution everyday till insomnia and depression
everyday can go to the malls to enjoy the crowd and jostling and get a lagi worse quality of life
can find no peace so have to go makan at restaurants to destress
develop health problems but everyday can go see doctor since it's only a 10min walk away
There is reason why people like to troll in the forum with multiple forum account.
Eight riversuites, sennett, sant ritz, venue residences, bartley ridge/ residencees... or if will ur willing to pay 1700psf can even buy citysquare residences in farrer park.
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This retard is telling us these are better. Can you tell us what are they better than J Gateway?
Rental yield, capital gain, or because retard just "THINK" its better but could explain why?
This retard is telling us these are better. Can you tell us what are they better than J Gateway?
Rental yield, capital gain, or because retard just "THINK" its better but could explain why?
KAM GONG! show everyone proof of J Gateway's rental yield and capital gains first, before you start asking for comparisons
Right now,
J Gateway - rental yield, zilch. capital gain, zilch. Even HDB will trump you, by use of mathematical logic
If you are worry about road traffic pollution, then you better no live along orchard road because there will be more buses and cars passes that area as compared to any interchange in Singapore.
So again, dont be so cheapskate, go fix your brain.
KAM GONG, obviously you haven't been down paterson hill or orchard boulevard.
plus, do you see overhead exposed MRT tracks along orchard road?
KAM GONG, think before you smack yourself in the face again. oh wait, forgot you aren't capable of higher intellect reasoning
Eight riversuites, sennett, sant ritz, venue residences, bartley ridge/ residencees... or if will ur willing to pay 1700psf can even buy citysquare residences in farrer park.
No one needs 5 shopping malls. thats retarded. its not as if u spend monday to friday in the malls - 1 mall per day. all u need is one suburban, rather basic mall. all the shops are so generic anw, u can only buy that much clothes and that much food. in fact i think nowadays the older generation (>50 yo) do not like going to malls so much, only once in a while.
hospital? i do NOT want to live next to a hospital. the idea of that... doesnt seem to sit with me very well. im sure im not the only one. if its a pvt hospital like mount elizabeth, yes maybe. but if u r talking about jurong hospital, no thanks. even tan tock seng... i dont want a condo directly next to it. a 10min walk from it would be so much better. even a 10min drive wouldnt matter.
mrt interchange? yes of course its good. but exposed tracks? NO THANKS. imagine the continuous noise for about 18hours per day, the dust, the unsightly tracks... bad. bad. bad.
bus interchange? well... who cares abt this. as long as it is near a few bus stops with good connectivity around the island, who cares bus interchange or not?
hdb town centre - the aforementioned condos are all near town centres save for the bartley ones.
Sour grapes beyond logic, if living near 5 malls is a negative, why then do Singaporeans flood the malls almost 7 days a week after work and during rest days? some driving for miles even, I guess most Singaporeans are retarded. Malls are NEVER ENOUGH in Singapore, let alone suburban ones.
Bus interchange is also a much vaunted selling point for MOST people, due to extreme convenience.
Exposed tracks a big sell down? But this is part of Singapore living, same as lving next to the road.
Open your eyes and don't argue for the sake of arguing.
R33 should go to Blk 424 Ang Mo Kio Ave 8 not far from Centro Residence and experience the noise level during the peak hour (frequency of trains). There is only two tracks here. Four tracks can be worst.
KAM GONG, obviously you haven't been down paterson hill or orchard boulevard.
plus, do you see overhead exposed MRT tracks along orchard road?
KAM GONG, think before you smack yourself in the face again. oh wait, forgot you aren't capable of higher intellect reasoning
R33 should go to Blk 424 Ang Mo Kio Ave 8 not far from Centro Residence and experience the noise level during the peak hour (frequency of trains). There is only two tracks here. Four tracks can be worst.
All these talk about mrt track, bus interchange pollution bla bla are nothing more than small kids whinning about not having the candies.
If you can be jumping up and down because of 1 residential project with 1 floor of commercial space outside EG, the what about 4 to 5 big malls right at your door steps.
whats your logic?
Sour grapes beyond logic, if living near 5 malls is a negative, why then do Singaporeans flood the malls almost 7 days a week after work and during rest days? some driving for miles even, I guess most Singaporeans are retarded. Malls are NEVER ENOUGH in Singapore, let alone suburban ones.
Bus interchange is also a much vaunted selling point for MOST people, due to extreme convenience.
Exposed tracks a big sell down? But this is part of Singapore living, same as lving next to the road.
Open your eyes and don't argue for the sake of arguing.
sorry, i disagree that frequenting shopping malls equals to a desire to live in the malls. the reasons are starkly different (and obvious), unless there are those who love to turn their private abode into a crowd-totting area. secondly, there are those who only head to the mall on a need-to basis, i.e. NOT everyone wants or loves to go to malls. personally, i don't even head down to orchard road during the weekends, cos' it is simply too crowded
exposed track isn't the same as living next to a road. go try and you will know, the noise from the trains will convince you.
Teddybear, are you not going to talk about foreigner workers in Jurong as well...
Oh wait, perhaps after what happen in Little India, Teddybear suddenly lose interest in that.
sorry, i disagree that frequenting shopping malls equals to a desire to live in the malls. the reasons are starkly different (and obvious), unless there are those who love to turn their private abode into a crowd-totting area. secondly, there are those who only head to the mall on a need-to basis, i.e. NOT everyone wants or loves to go to malls. personally, i don't even head down to orchard road during the weekends, cos' it is simply too crowded
exposed track isn't the same as living next to a road. go try and you will know, the noise from the trains will convince you.
Dont gong jiao wei lah....you wont know how sweet the grapes unless you got the chance to taste it.
Sour grapes beyond logic, if living near 5 malls is a negative, why then do Singaporeans flood the malls almost 7 days a week after work and during rest days? some driving for miles even, I guess most Singaporeans are retarded. Malls are NEVER ENOUGH in Singapore, let alone suburban ones.
Bus interchange is also a much vaunted selling point for MOST people, due to extreme convenience.
Exposed tracks a big sell down? But this is part of Singapore living, same as lving next to the road.
Open your eyes and don't argue for the sake of arguing.
The japanese community living in the west are so happy to have isetan supermarket at Westgate. Expect more Japanese tenant to want to live in the west in the coming years.
Obviously JLD is not Suzhou lah. 1 is the investor got attracted there and got conned, 1 is willing buyer but got conned, how can be the same? Only the willing buyer is stupid lah! :beats-me-man:
the ppl here always say JLD until got dragon got phoenix. but when asked who's willing to buy JG at 2k psf, ppl siam here hide there excuses many many.
when ask if tenants r willing to pay $700 more for 4 extra malls, R33 try his means to drop the subject.
wat a 60.1! :rolleyes:
the ppl here always say JLD until got dragon got phoenix. but when asked who's willing to buy JG at 2k psf, ppl siam here hide there excuses many many.
when ask if tenants r willing to pay $700 more for 4 extra malls, R33 try his means to drop the subject.
wat a 60.1! :rolleyes:
perhaps dont want competition le?
if too many people say they willing to buy at 2k psf, sellers asking for $2100.
if too tenants r willing to pay $700 more, then landlords asking for $800 more.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=448500&postcount=48
The japanese community living in the west are so happy to have isetan supermarket at Westgate. Expect more Japanese tenant to want to live in the west in the coming years.
Yes, agree. The whole of Singapore would gladly pay an arm and a leg to live within walking distance of any mall, but strangely there are forummers here who don't agree and yet calling others retarded, strange, strange.
the ppl here always say JLD until got dragon got phoenix. but when asked who's willing to buy JG at 2k psf, ppl siam here hide there excuses many many.
when ask if tenants r willing to pay $700 more for 4 extra malls, R33 try his means to drop the subject.
wat a 60.1! :rolleyes:
Many say ccr cheap I buy.... So now ccr cheap, u see people rushing in to buy????
:banghead:
perhaps dont want competition le?
if too many people say they willing to buy at 2k psf, sellers asking for $2100.
if too tenants r willing to pay $700 more, then landlords asking for $800 more.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=448500&postcount=48
tis I dunno, oni time will tell.
u juz ask yrself these qns fm the pov of a tenant lor.
if u r rich enuff to oay > $3k for rental, would u rather choose to live in a more atas place onot?
u r not a woman tats y u dunno :p
they will not shop at the same mall every week. tats y we r flying to hk, bkk, taipei cos we love shopping in every corner of the world! :D
a mere 5 malls in JLD will not be able to tie us down! ;)
Many say ccr cheap I buy.... So now ccr cheap, u see people rushing in to buy????
:banghead:
bro, u outdated liao leh! :tongue3: now the slogon is quantum! quantum! quantum!
cheap psf nid not necc translate into an affordable quantum.
for a shoebox, the current digestible amt is 1 mil.
bro, u outdated liao leh! :tongue3: now the slogon is quantum! quantum! quantum!
cheap psf nid not necc translate into an affordable quantum.
for a shoebox, the current digestible amt is 1 mil.
dont gong jiao wei lah. A J Gateway selling at $1700psf for a <500sqft unit, its still below $850k, so does that mean it has got potential for $1m?
bro, u outdated liao leh! :tongue3: now the slogon is quantum! quantum! quantum!
cheap psf nid not necc translate into an affordable quantum.
for a shoebox, the current digestible amt is 1 mil.
I think u outdated leh....
It is not only about quantum... its about ABSD and SSD.... hahahahahaha
The investors are making sure they get solid units because they dont want to kanna ABSD and kana stuck with SSD as well....
You still can get many 1mil shoeboxes in CCR... So how do you account for that???? Food for thought...:D
clemdale24
10-12-13, 09:53
Sour grapes beyond logic, if living near 5 malls is a negative, why then do Singaporeans flood the malls almost 7 days a week after work and during rest days? some driving for miles even, I guess most Singaporeans are retarded. Malls are NEVER ENOUGH in Singapore, let alone suburban ones.
Bus interchange is also a much vaunted selling point for MOST people, due to extreme convenience.
Exposed tracks a big sell down? But this is part of Singapore living, same as lving next to the road.
Open your eyes and don't argue for the sake of arguing.
Flooding the malls after work and on rest days doesnt mean that i want to live directly next to a mall. look at those rich ppl in watten, tanglin, sixth avenue, do they want to live nx to a mall? NO. yes its somewhat convenient, but i think ur overestimating how often ppl visit malls. ppl who do... mostly do not have a nice quiet peaceful home to go home to. thats why they spend their time in the malls. this speaks loads about jurong houses as a whole.
and please dont BS abt bus interchanges. it has never been a selling point for any property. They are ugly and noisy on the outside, and smelly on the inside. convenience can be found via buses even without a bus interchange. PLUS, bus interchanges are ALWAYS crowded, no doubt the same for the jurong one.
YES EXPOSED TRACKS IS A BIG SELLDOWN. first thing i look for when buying a place is - NO EXPOSED TRACKS near my home. to see it may be ok. to hear it is DEFINITE NO WAY. and Im not alone. part of singaporean living my a**. if it is then why dont i seen the downtown line and thomson line and upcoming ERL being built above ground? since its so singaporean then why dont the gov just built it abvoe ground? cheaper also what? what a load of BS. basically its bcos its ugly and noisy. yes, ugly and noisy. theres not one thing good abt exposed tracks. it is not the same living next to a road. every 5min a train comes chugging in - and thats 1 track. imagine 4 tracks: u either have 1 train every 1.25 mins, or the volume of 4 trains combined together every 5min, or anything in btw. wake up and kid yourself not.
and the hospital....... please, god no, not in my backyard (NIMBY). down the street, yes maybe, if its an atas hospital in an atas area. not jurong general hospital in jurong. no.
Dont gong jiao wei lah....you wont know how sweet the grapes unless you got the chance to taste it.
KAM GONG! arguing for the sake of arguing.
why don't you convince those living in nassim park, oei tiong ham that they should live a better life by turning their GCBs into mall concepts? live with perpetual crowd and noise.
I think u outdated leh....
It is not only about quantum... its about ABSD and SSD.... hahahahahaha
The investors are making sure they get solid units because they dont want to kanna ABSD and kana stuck with SSD as well....
You still can get many 1mil shoeboxes in CCR... So how do you account for that???? Food for thought...:D
wat toking u? absd n ssd will be incurred regardless of which one u choose leh!
if really got such pricing, isnt it attractive for those into resale? imagine 1 mil mount sophia fh vs 1 mil JG lh? :D
The japanese community living in the west are so happy to have isetan supermarket at Westgate. Expect more Japanese tenant to want to live in the west in the coming years.
got isetan supermarket means japanese tenant want to live in the west?!?!??! WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
kam gong!!!! this is truly epic. ikea flagship store in queenstown and tampines means the scandinavians in singapore all congregate around these neighbourhoods.
dont gong jiao wei lah. A J Gateway selling at $1700psf for a <500sqft unit, its still below $850k, so does that mean it has got potential for $1m?
1mil JG shoebox! haha! :D
Eight riversuites, sennett, sant ritz, venue residences, bartley ridge/ residencees... or if will ur willing to pay 1700psf can even buy citysquare residences in farrer park..
Then why are these condo not sold out on preview day like JG?
Jonathan0503
10-12-13, 10:16
prime district already >2000psf currently, in time to come it will move to >3000psf, >4000psf...
I have never compare Jurong to prime, I'm just stating that the future living environment in Jurong East is going to improve dramatically as compared to Jurong East 5 years ago.
there wont be anymore residential plot or at most 1 more plot in Jurong East MRT if I remember correctly, hence J-Gateway is going to be the only 1 or 2 modern condo there...
all these give J-gateway a high chance of appreciating in price....
i'm not vested, just stating my honest opinion...
My opinion is that all the other condos around Jurong with value less then JG will appreciate first until they are close to the value of JG before we see any upside for JG
got isetan supermarket means japanese tenant want to live in the west?!?!??! WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
kam gong!!!! this is truly epic. ikea flagship store in queenstown and tampines means the scandinavians in singapore all congregate around these neighbourhoods.
Kam gong, first of all IKEA is not a supermarket, it is a furniture store, convenience is not so important.
I agree that if Isetan Supermarket opens in JLD area, more Japanese would move there, meaning those already in other parts of West, not those in Changi or others, those would move to JLD area once their leases runs out, what is so funny about that?
Flooding the malls after work and on rest days doesnt mean that i want to live directly next to a mall. look at those rich ppl in watten, tanglin, sixth avenue, do they want to live nx to a mall? NO. yes its somewhat convenient, but i think ur overestimating how often ppl visit malls. ppl who do... mostly do not have a nice quiet peaceful home to go home to. thats why they spend their time in the malls. this speaks loads about jurong houses as a whole.
and please dont BS abt bus interchanges. it has never been a selling point for any property. They are ugly and noisy on the outside, and smelly on the inside. convenience can be found via buses even without a bus interchange. PLUS, bus interchanges are ALWAYS crowded, no doubt the same for the jurong one.
YES EXPOSED TRACKS IS A BIG SELLDOWN. first thing i look for when buying a place is - NO EXPOSED TRACKS near my home. to see it may be ok. to hear it is DEFINITE NO WAY. and Im not alone. part of singaporean living my a**. if it is then why dont i seen the downtown line and thomson line and upcoming ERL being built above ground? since its so singaporean then why dont the gov just built it abvoe ground? cheaper also what? what a load of BS. basically its bcos its ugly and noisy. yes, ugly and noisy. theres not one thing good abt exposed tracks. it is not the same living next to a road. every 5min a train comes chugging in - and thats 1 track. imagine 4 tracks: u either have 1 train every 1.25 mins, or the volume of 4 trains combined together every 5min, or anything in btw. wake up and kid yourself not.
and the hospital....... please, god no, not in my backyard (NIMBY). down the street, yes maybe, if its an atas hospital in an atas area. not jurong general hospital in jurong. no.
Ha ha like this also want to argue, going by your logic, HDB flats near town centres, meaning near malls, shops, exposed MRT tracks, bus interchange all should cost less.....but heck no....everyone is retarded, except you.
In one fell swoop, I don't prove you wrong but property buyers in Singapore prove you wrong.
Also dunno why the ultra rich want to pay so much to stay smack in the middle of Orchard Road too, they too must be stupid, going by your logic, no one wants to stay too near malls, then apts directly upstairs the ION must be worthless, so I wonder why they command sky high rents, all stupid?
Cheers.
Patrickstar
10-12-13, 11:28
With the jld all condos in the area have already moved up in price by several hundred psf. JG has still not moved anywhere and still untested whether it will have the same or better percentage gain as the surrounding older projects. I personally doubt that JG will see much cap gain.
My opinion is that all the other condos around Jurong with value less then JG will appreciate first until they are close to the value of JG before we see any upside for JG
Hi k00L
You must be a food lover
bet you will come to J Gateway some day and find your favourite
you will be spoilt for choice if you are :D
I did come by last weekend, didnt find anything I liked , luckily there's long beach seafood at IMM - quality is comparable to that of east coast (minus the sea breeze).. better luck next time
Kam gong, first of all IKEA is not a supermarket, it is a furniture store, convenience is not so important.
I agree that if Isetan Supermarket opens in JLD area, more Japanese would move there, meaning those already in other parts of West, not those in Changi or others, those would move to JLD area once their leases runs out, what is so funny about that?
KAM GONG! if you can claim that a supermarket is an important draw factor without proof, what is stopping me from claiming that a furniture retailer is equally important.
secondly, don't cold storage, jason's and all the higher-end supermarket carry japanese import groceries/food? unless you are implying that there is such a dearth in the market that a supermarket will draw japanese to relocate near it.
thirdly, Meidi-ya existed all these years and is still going strong. moreover, the robertson area is populated with so many japanese joints so won't japanese gravitate towards the neighbourhood, using your logic?
like i have always advised, think before you type
My opinion is that all the other condos around Jurong with value less then JG will appreciate first until they are close to the value of JG before we see any upside for JG
That a fair statement. JG pricing is a outlier compared to nearby jurong condos.
Even the resale hdb flats price and rental in jurong still priced below the taopayoh, bishan, kallang, queenstown and redhill.
If HDB were to release BTO in Jurong gateway, will the price be higher than that of Queenstown BTO? Very unlikely
KAM GONG! if you can claim that a supermarket is an important draw factor without proof, what is stopping me from claiming that a furniture retailer is equally important.
secondly, don't cold storage, jason's and all the higher-end supermarket carry japanese import groceries/food? unless you are implying that there is such a dearth in the market that a supermarket will draw japanese to relocate near it.
thirdly, Meidi-ya existed all these years and is still going strong. moreover, the robertson area is populated with so many japanese joints so won't japanese gravitate towards the neighbourhood, using your logic?
like i have always advised, think before you type
Not just supermarket dufus, work place as well, anyway why bother to reply you, Liang Court area does have a sizable Japanese community, why argue with facts?
Buying Japanese food at Cold Storage? Means Cold Storage can attract Japanese to stay nearby? just proves that you obviously do not know how Japanese think.
Hey in the end neither Ringo or I may be right, but neither would you, so just relax and let events pan out. 3 years later, let's revisit our posts OK? Are you man enough? Or you just want to keep arguing to prove a point?
being a copy cat is not going to get you anywhere, and I am sure you tampines friend will can attest to that. so please learn to be original learn to tell facts instead of lies.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=248390&postcount=9639 23rd Mar 2012.
I agree - copy cats are terrible & never get anywhere :scared-4:
how much they pour in can change the fact tat till now JG remains the highest priced condo in jurong meh?
if can affect, y dun u go n petition govt to pour in more resources so tat we can see some capital appreciation in JG?
So lucky, yr greenhorn fwen de rcr unit which was launched around the time of JG may not hv as many development as JLD but now alrdy enjoyed abt $100psf increase in mkt value wor :cheers5:
玉格格 - Why don't you just ask R33 how much money he has poured into JLD? That will shut him up.
So far he talks about JG all day & night long but when asked if he bought he avoids the question.
I think we all know how much he has invested in JLD - $0 - maybe his HDB if he stays in that area...........
But the topic is OWNERS in the west on CONDO singapore - so I cannot really wonder what he's doing on this site or thread as he doesn't seem to qualify.
Maybe some kind of public service to push up the price for those smart enough to buy in before the JLD hype to push up our existing property prices for us. Hey, someone may read this thread and believe all his over hyped BS he drones on about :beats-me-man:
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=248390&postcount=9639 23rd Mar 2012.
I agree - copy cats are terrible & never get anywhere :scared-4:
that is the way to beat a snake.
KAM GONG! arguing for the sake of arguing.
why don't you convince those living in nassim park, oei tiong ham that they should live a better life by turning their GCBs into mall concepts? live with perpetual crowd and noise.
only kamgong will compare J Gateway to GCBs...some call it kong jiao wei.
玉格格 - Why don't you just ask R33 how much money he has poured into JLD? That will shut him up.
So far he talks about JG all day & night long but when asked if he bought he avoids the question.
I think we all know how much he has invested in JLD - $0 - maybe his HDB if he stays in that area...........
But the topic is OWNERS in the west on CONDO singapore - so I cannot really wonder what he's doing on this site or thread as he doesn't seem to qualify.
Maybe some kind of public service to push up the price for those smart enough to buy in before the JLD hype to push up our existing property prices for us. Hey, someone may read this thread and believe all his over hyped BS he drones on about :beats-me-man:
I am still waiting for your explanation on best and worst street of Singapore.
ALL FART NO SHIT I guess?
Then why are these condo not sold out on preview day like JG?
r u trying to tell us tat 100% sold out means it is gd?
fyi, inflora is almost all sold out on vvip too. can I conclude tat it is a gd project? :ashamed1:
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=248390&postcount=9639 23rd Mar 2012.
I agree - copy cats are terrible & never get anywhere :scared-4:
The worst copy here I ever read is when someone come to this thread and teach us about Property 101.
"Better to buy the worst house in the best street than the best house in the worst street." He even went as far as throwing some big names like Donald Dumpty or something just to prove his he right.
Best street - River Valley, Worst Street, Jurong.
But then again, when ask real example and explanation on why capital gain and rental yield in the worst street is performing way better than the "best street" he when MIA.
perhaps you should be telling yourself stop all that ALL FART NO SHIT...
My opinion is that all the other condos around Jurong with value less then JG will appreciate first until they are close to the value of JG before we see any upside for JG
tis I agree.
tat means to say, perhaps JG make a capital appreciation of say $110k fm now till 2017, other newly launched projects as JG alrdy make a higher amount during tis same period.
so why I feel tat it is risky to invest in JG?
if JG huat, other projects will oso huat.
if JG din huat, u buy other lower value ocr u thank god n buddha liao.
I agree that if Isetan Supermarket opens in JLD area, more Japanese would move there, meaning those already in other parts of West, not those in Changi or others, those would move to JLD area once their leases runs out, what is so funny about that?
omg! wat a ridiculous remark!
u r telling us tat ppl will shift their homes as and when they change jobs?! :banghead:
how many times in yr life u change jobs vs u shift hse can I ask? :47:
r u trying to tell us tat 100% sold out means it is gd?
fyi, inflora is almost all sold out on vvip too. can I conclude tat it is a gd project? :ashamed1:
Dont talk jiao wei.
Are you trying to tell us that a project that was sold out in 1 day is NO GOOD?
With the jld all condos in the area have already moved up in price by several hundred psf. JG has still not moved anywhere and still untested whether it will have the same or better percentage gain as the surrounding older projects. I personally doubt that JG will see much cap gain.
it is not merely old condos in Jurong, newly launched condos in other parts of sg oso alrdy see a modest unrealised capital gain wif newer launches in their vicinity yet there is not a comparable new project to beat JG's record.
the oni possible way for a fast capital appreciation is for a new launch in Jurong.
only kamgong will compare J Gateway to GCBs...some call it kong jiao wei.
kam gong! it wasn't even a comparison of your prized investment against GCB. to begin with, jurong can't even compare with orchard, but then again we aren't expecting pea-brains to comprehend that.
omg! wat a ridiculous remark!
u r telling us tat ppl will shift their homes as and when they change jobs?! :banghead:
how many times in yr life u change jobs vs u shift hse can I ask? :47:
My dear... it is a very highly possible chance that people shift home when they shift jobs....
This units are tenanted out... If an expat working in the east moves to the west, they will most likely shift to the west.... Instead of wasting time commuting...
Likewise for schools... If you look at Anchorage, in the early days, there were many Japs, Koreans and Ang mo... Today, there are many Indians... Guess why????:confused::confused::confused:
If you look at woodlands, many Americans - Guess why???
If you look at West Coast, many Japs - guess why???
So there are variables at play here... work, school, community, etc....
Even Singaporeans w kids shift to places near where their kids will study or are studying...
Open up your mind...
kam gong! it wasn't even a comparison of your prized investment against GCB. to begin with, jurong can't even compare with orchard, but then again we aren't expecting pea-brains to comprehend that.
Totally waste of time talking to idiot who go as far as comparing J Gateway in JURONG to Good Class Bungalow in District 10.
I hope now you understand what I created my signature. Its for people like you who like to waste other people's time talking cock.
玉格格 - Why don't you just ask R33 how much money he has poured into JLD? That will shut him up.
So far he talks about JG all day & night long but when asked if he bought he avoids the question.
I think we all know how much he has invested in JLD - $0 - maybe his HDB if he stays in that area...........:
tis type of mission impossible task u ask me to do is like insult my intelligence leh! :(
if a person dun even hv guts to admit tat he has vested in JG, u still expect him to tell u how much he has pump into JLD?:doh:
I tink a more fruitful response to him would be:
b4 u cont'd to behave like a guru, do u hv any proven track record to sic onot? we do not wan to waste time learning from someone who has not make any money in the ppty market wor! :47:
Not just supermarket dufus, work place as well, anyway why bother to reply you, Liang Court area does have a sizable Japanese community, why argue with facts?
Buying Japanese food at Cold Storage? Means Cold Storage can attract Japanese to stay nearby? just proves that you obviously do not know how Japanese think.
Hey in the end neither Ringo or I may be right, but neither would you, so just relax and let events pan out. 3 years later, let's revisit our posts OK? Are you man enough? Or you just want to keep arguing to prove a point?
so thanks for slapping yourself in the face, kam gong! re-visit the earlier posts and see for yourself who claimed that a supermarket will attract people to move near it.
arguments kenna punched a big hole and then you add in workplace and now try to push the discussion aside.
i don't need to argue to prove a point, simply because claiming people will move near a supermarket is pointlessly stupid.
so thanks for slapping yourself in the face, kam gong! re-visit the earlier posts and see for yourself who claimed that a supermarket will attract people to move near it.
arguments kenna punched a big hole and then you add in workplace and now try to push the discussion aside.
i don't need to argue to prove a point, simply because claiming people will move near a supermarket is pointlessly stupid.
there are absolutely nothing what you said here that you can prove you are any smarter than a petulant primary school kid.
Wrong forum dude!!
My dear... it is a very highly possible chance that people shift home when they shift jobs....
This units are tenanted out... If an expat working in the east moves to the west, they will most likely shift to the west.... Instead of wasting time commuting...
Likewise for schools... If you look at Anchorage, in the early days, there were many Japs, Koreans and Ang mo... Today, there are many Indians... Guess why????:confused::confused::confused:
If you look at woodlands, many Americans - Guess why???
If you look at West Coast, many Japs - guess why???
So there are variables at play here... work, school, community, etc....
Even Singaporeans w kids shift to places near where their kids will study or are studying...
Open up your mind...
there is a big, big diff between "very high possibilty tat ppl will shift homes when they shift jobs" vs " ppl will shift homes whenever they shift jobs" :47:
btw, tenants will often shift to a home nearer to work place, I totally agree. but locals leh? u tink we r still in the era of meng mu san qian? :D
tis type of mission impossible task u ask me to do is like insult my intelligence leh! :(
if a person dun even hv guts to admit tat he has vested in JG, u still expect him to tell u how much he has pump into JLD?:doh:
I tink a more fruitful response to him would be:
b4 u cont'd to behave like a guru, do u hv any proven track record to sic onot? we do not wan to waste time learning from someone who has not make any money in the ppty market wor! :47:
Dont side track to kong jiao wei.
if you want to compare JLD to Suzhou project, then tell us how much have Singapore government pump in JLD vs, the money they spend in Suzhou.
If you dont know say dont know, dont need to kong jiao wei.
And whats up with using so many forum accounts?
r u trying to tell us tat 100% sold out means it is gd?
fyi, inflora is almost all sold out on vvip too. can I conclude tat it is a gd project? :ashamed1:
Well, Inflora almost sold out, not sold out. Nonetheless, the reason behind Inflora good performance is its price which is less than 1k psf. But JG, as quote by u is 1700 psf and yet it was sold out on preview
My dear... it is a very highly possible chance that people shift home when they shift jobs....
This units are tenanted out... If an expat working in the east moves to the west, they will most likely shift to the west.... Instead of wasting time commuting...
Likewise for schools... If you look at Anchorage, in the early days, there were many Japs, Koreans and Ang mo... Today, there are many Indians... Guess why????:confused::confused::confused:
If you look at woodlands, many Americans - Guess why???
If you look at West Coast, many Japs - guess why???
So there are variables at play here... work, school, community, etc....
Even Singaporeans w kids shift to places near where their kids will study or are studying...
Open up your mind...
These expat families who choose to move to outskirts for kids education tend to pick large condo resort-style units or landed with quiet facing for rental.
What the point to move to JG MM unit with 18 hours of mrt track noise, bus interchange noise? The dining in jem or westgate dont appeal to them, they prefer the more laid back spacious atmosphere in holland v, dempsey or robertson quay.
omg! wat a ridiculous remark!
u r telling us tat ppl will shift their homes as and when they change jobs?! :banghead:
how many times in yr life u change jobs vs u shift hse can I ask? :47:
Self stay owners may not but tenants do indeed shift when they change jobs and when leases run out and they want variety....you stupid or what? Don't know what are you doing in the Condo forums if you don't know this basic fact.
These expat families who choose to move to outskirts for kids education tend to pick large condo resort-style units or landed with quiet facing for rental.
What the point to move to JG MM unit with 18 hours of mrt track noise, bus interchange noise? The dining in jem or westgate dont appeal to them, they prefer the more laid back spacious atmosphere in holland v, dempsey or robertson quay.
well according to some moron/s, supermarket does wonders in attracting people to relocate near it
so thanks for slapping yourself in the face, kam gong! re-visit the earlier posts and see for yourself who claimed that a supermarket will attract people to move near it.
arguments kenna punched a big hole and then you add in workplace and now try to push the discussion aside.
i don't need to argue to prove a point, simply because claiming people will move near a supermarket is pointlessly stupid.
I said when their leases run out, or maybe newly arrived, high possibility those already in the West or work in the West may shift nearer to amenities, basic property fact...which part do you not understand?
there is a big, big diff between "very high possibilty tat ppl will shift homes when they shift jobs" vs " ppl will shift homes whenever they shift jobs" :47:
btw, tenants will often shift to a home nearer to work place, I totally agree. but locals leh? u tink we r still in the era of meng mu san qian? :D
There are so many variables here....
We are talking about tenants.... or are we talking about locals?????
I damn :confused::confused::confused::confused:
Jonathan0503
10-12-13, 15:34
Dont talk jiao wei.
Are you trying to tell us that a project that was sold out in 1 day is NO GOOD?
Also cannot prove that a project that is sold in 1 day is good until it can be proven that the buyers enjoyed comparatively higher capital gain or rental returns in the shortest time
well according to some moron/s, supermarket does wonders in attracting people to relocate near it
according to some moron, their brain can only process one subject at a time
So if you talk about malls, supermarket, hotels, hospital, commercial tower, parks, attraction and over 3000 MNCs located in the west. they will have to first talk about one subject at at time.
e.g. if you talk about 3000mnc, the moron will have to ask the same question 3000 times with 3000 different company names.
And yes, thats why I created the signature..
Also cannot prove that a project that is sold in 1 day is good until it can be proven that the buyers enjoyed comparatively higher capital gain or rental returns in the shortest time
When a project is sold out within 1 day, that can only mean there are more demand than supply and that buyers see value in what they are buying.
Based on what I gather so far, there are some agent marketing JG subsale at >$2000psf.
So is that good or bad?
I said when their leases run out, or maybe newly arrived, high possibility those already in the West or work in the West may shift nearer to amenities, basic property fact...which part do you not understand?
before you invite me to insult you further, which part of the moron's statement do you not understand then?
"The japanese community living in the west are so happy to have isetan supermarket at Westgate. Expect more Japanese tenant to want to live in the west in the coming years."
before you invite me to insult you further, which part of the moron's statement do you not understand then?
"The japanese community living in the west are so happy to have isetan supermarket at Westgate. Expect more Japanese tenant to want to live in the west in the coming years."
Thats if your insult is even credible or carry any weight. ultimately who in the world doesnt know about the act and behave like a computer warrior who goes around calling people name.
I think you are giving yourself too much credit lah.
before you invite me to insult you further, which part of the moron's statement do you not understand then?
"The japanese community living in the west are so happy to have isetan supermarket at Westgate. Expect more Japanese tenant to want to live in the west in the coming years."
I agree with it. Anything wrong? You have seen locals buying their homes near market, same difference. And usually tenants are attracted by having convenient amenities, if in future the whole Singapore is dotted with Japanese supermarkets, then they may not be attracted to the West because of it.
I agree with it. Anything wrong? You have seen locals buying their homes near market, same difference. And usually tenants are attracted by having convenient amenities, if in future the whole Singapore is dotted with Japanese supermarkets, then they may not be attracted to the West because of it.
sigh, if you agree with it then go read all the posts leading up to this and see why you're slapping yourself.
Thats if your insult is even credible or carry any weight. ultimately who in the world doesnt know about the act and behave like a computer warrior who goes around calling people name.
I think you are giving yourself too much credit lah.
then please enlighten us on your nonsensical claims on J-gateway's non-existent rental yield and capital gain
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Originally Posted by Ringo33 http://forums.condosingapore.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php?p=450964#post450964)
This retard is telling us these are better. Can you tell us what are they better than J Gateway?
Rental yield, capital gain, or because retard just "THINK" its better but could explain why?
KAM GONG! show everyone proof of J Gateway's rental yield and capital gains first, before you start asking for comparisons
Right now,
J Gateway - rental yield, zilch. capital gain, zilch. Even HDB will trump you, by use of mathematical logic
Thats if your insult is even credible or carry any weight. ultimately who in the world doesnt know about the act and behave like a computer warrior who goes around calling people name.
I think you are giving yourself too much credit lah.
Although I don't agree with many of your hard sell points on JLD, I really laugh at these 12 year olds :)
Cheers
sigh, if you agree with it then go read all the posts leading up to this and see why you're slapping yourself.
Dun know, dun care....got better things to do.
Cheers
Although I don't agree with many of your hard sell points on JLD, I really laugh at these 12 year olds :)
Cheers
Have you noticed many people who are most critical about the JLD plan in this thread has already "left" and return with new account name.
Why? They are starting to see the potential in JLD. :D
JLD is a BRICK AND MORTAL success story, there is no need to hard sell
Well, Inflora almost sold out, not sold out. Nonetheless, the reason behind Inflora good performance is its price which is less than 1k psf. But JG, as quote by u is 1700 psf and yet it was sold out on preview
Im telling u, gd sales on vvip nid not necc means it is a gd proj.
Look at duo.
issit all sold on vvip?
JG is not even comparable!
Self stay owners may not but tenants do indeed shift when they change jobs and when leases run out and they want variety....you stupid or what? Don't know what are you doing in the Condo forums if you don't know this basic fact.
precisely tenants will always be on the move!
so all tenants who currently work in jurong will work there forever! ?! :banghead:
labelling others stupid doesnt make yr reasoning sounds any smarter, it merely make u sounds like roberto33 :47:
Im telling u, gd sales on vvip nid not necc means it is a gd proj.
Look at duo.
issit all sold on vvip?
JG is not even comparable!
comparing JG to DUO?
That dude who you have been bootlicking also say DUO is better buy, but then disappear liao. Where is he huh?
Have you noticed many people who are most critical about the JLD plan in this thread has already "left" and return with new account name.
Why? They are starting to see the potential in JLD. :D
JLD is a BRICK AND MORTAL success story, there is no need to hard sell
when we return wif new nick, we tell u explicitly cos we noe tat u r not as smart as those who can detect it readily.
But having changed my nick I still fail to see yr jld super potential den intended leh.
so wats the conclusion of yr tis non constructive post? :47:
comparing JG to DUO?
That dude who you have been bootlicking also say DUO is better buy, but then disappear liao. Where is he huh?
JG to DUO is machiam 宫女 to 太后 。
now u noe y yr JG fully sold on vvip oso cannot 山鸡变凤凰? :D
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