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So poor thing. On holiday still must cut & paste.
Cannot rest for a little bit. :tongue3:
Ya lor.. Didn't know that MR B is so stress while on holiday.. On one hand seeing property price keep climbing & on the other hand worry for his rental back home..:rolleyes:
foreigners purchased down 78%....only 1.7% of foreigners here paid income tax...so almost 99% very poor & earn below $2000.....so who is the buyers in last few months?? developers themselves, developers forced suppliers to buy?? insiders?? whatever.....resale is death, why bother to look at it, if want to offer, 20-30% below valuaiton or last transacted price or just forget it.....their time is running out, globally everywhere on fire now, borrow & borrow but sure cannot pay up, just wait for tons of banks to bankrupt soon.....that is it, by then they cut 30-40% also no takers....
rental also death, tons of property for rent in propertyguru...many are there for 6-12 months & no tenants...rate is low, with maintenance, renovaiton, furniture, monthly mortgage loan, every month also a big sum....with tenants, more headache...
those try to sell low already can't sell, don't talk about those want to sell high, has to wait till the low price one to clear, they can tan ku ku for next 20 yrs....
stop buying or offer low, many will be pressured by retrenchment, pay cut, tenants, taxes, high oil price & expenses, rate hike......time flies, wait for this weekend france election, early nextmonth Greece....also new cooling measures coming, stock is death, more land sales, next month cow should dump another 10k BTO.....
holiday also qiuet now, shopping mall is empty, restaurant bo lang....
property is biggest bubble of spore...many people will bankrupt & jump down after bubble burst...personal mortagage loan of >S$120Bil, external crisis will burst this bubble like 1997 & lehman bros 2008 & this time much much bigger, no mercy, no bailout...cannot profit pocketed, lost taxpayers' foot the bill...has to have responsibility value, let them solve their own problems.....now is good time to cut price & run....later bankrupt, face it.....;););)
Every weekend drive to Plaza Singapura to send my kids for music lesson can't help but to notice the banner "For sale / rent" at the condo if I'm not mistaken 8@ Mount Sophia .... Seems like no takers for years now ... What a pity.
:scared-3:
speculator
20-04-12, 22:13
Every weekend drive to Plaza Singapura to send my kids for music lesson can't help but to notice the banner "For sale / rent" at the condo if I'm not mistaken 8@ Mount Sophia .... Seems like no takers for years now ... What a pity.
:scared-3:
I have seen a few people mentioning this.
what's the story? Basic's condo ?
Actually I think the best cooling measure is not to sell any more land for developers to build new launch, remove all current cooling measures, let the property prices go to sky (increase >10x) and then crash and sure will be very cool like Japan, don't have to do anything for next 20 years on property cooling measures because very coooooolllll! :p
I suggest tiered stamp duty on new launch. Teddybear said unfair leh.... But I think Teddy's idea of 4 yr SSD commencing from TOP is a pretty sound suggestion. Haha
speculator
20-04-12, 22:19
holiday also qiuet now, shopping mall is empty, restaurant bo lang....
property is biggest bubble of spore...many people will bankrupt & jump down after bubble burst..
Actually I like your thread. Makes all the overly bullish property investor think twice. Everybody wants to buy something cheaply but personally don't think cursing another to go bankrupt, commit suicide, jump and die is the way for me to buy something cheaply. scare of karma. but that's just a matter of personal opinion.
your thread, your words, your life, your wish.
Please continue posting the headlines. Love it. :cheers5:
This is the price to pay for overzealous in property investment.
Hope your dream will come true soon b4 you went bersek beyond cure.
When that moment come will it be another 3 years of daily shouting buy buy
buy property price is going up fast.:doh:
3 Lessons From the Sky Habitat Sale
3 Lessons From the Sky Habitat Sale
Yeah, “Sky Habitat” is right; because that’s how far the buyers of this Bishan Condo have kicked off from Earth. Sky Habitat is an official stamp; the final statement that yes, we have finally crossed the point where we have more money than brains. In this article, we examine the three lessons we desperately need to learn from Sky Habitat. There would be four, but apparently “Don’t be stupid” isn’t a choice some buyers can make:
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What is Sky Habitat?
It’s an overpriced condo in Bishan, designed by architect Moshe Safdie (also known as “Who?” to 99% of Singaporeans). You can see more on the price at H88.
At an average price of $1747 per square foot, Sky Habitat is Singapore’s most expensive suburban project. It’s also one of the most heavily marketed properties: The 3D model alone is two storeys tall, and take a look at their video flythrough. It’s the perfect backdrop to a Bond villain lifestyle.
Despite high prices, a non-central location, and being a 99 year leasehold, some buyers remain enthusiastic about the place. During the initial offering of 180 apartments, 125 were sold within the first day. Which, in a sane world, is 125 more than we’d expect.
But what can we learn from the illogical success of Sky Habitat?
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1. The Centre Cannot Hold
As H88 suggests, the “gap between suburban homes and homes in the central region are narrowing”. Right now, developers still visualize Singapore as “District 9 and the surrounding dumps”, but that’s changing.
Sky Habitat shows how property prices in out-of-central regions are beginning to climb. It’s no longer a safe bet that places like Bishan will always be cheaper, or that heartland regions will remain open to lower income earners. The intrusion of high priced projects will influence prices in the relevant district, and we might see an unsustainable price inflation.
There are significant ramifications, which might impact first time home owners a decade from now. Don’t be surprised if, 10 years down the road, you realize your moderate income won’t get you a place near your parents in Tampines.
Investors take note: Maybe it’s time to stop obsessing over Orchard and River Valley, and turn your attention elsewhere.
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2. Property Is Always Sentiment Driven
Market inefficiencies are a thing of the past, right? I mean, anyone can get accurate info on market prices, loans, and property reviews. No one needs to make uninformed purchasing decisions.
Well, too bad one connection the Internet won’t provide is a connection to reality. Whether you’re a property investor, home owner, or leech on society banker, let Sky Habitat reinforce an old lesson: When it comes to property value, sentiment is king.
If you’re making an investment, don’t just read the numbers. Regular home owners aren’t property investors, and they don’t always work on logic. As CapitaLand proves, they could fence off a clogged outhouse and sell it at $1,700 a square foot, provided the brochure’s in full colour. Learn to recognize architectural appeal and strong marketing as key factors.
If you’re a home owner, don’t get suckered by a pretty building. When your’re down to your last 50 bucks from ridiculous loan payments, the marble tiling will look a lot less attractive.
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3. Our Property Market is Hideously Inflated
This building is the equivalent of fetching your morbidly obese friend, and giving him vouchers to every buffet in town. You can practically hear the eulogy at his funeral. It’s wasteful, decadent, and suggests imminent problems.
The developers paid over $550 million for Sky Habitat’s land, which was around $118 million more than the next bidder. A huge price tag, but theirs was a confidence born of faith. Faith in our illogical spending habits, and faith in an over-inflated property market.
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Why would buyers purchase something this overpriced, when there are surrounding properties in Bishan that are cheaper? The location is the same. No matter how good Sky Habitat looks, it’s not going to be significantly more convenient. The only plausible answer is that buyers are getting presumptuous. They’ve begun to overrate the value of prestige, and are ignoring fundamentals of location and function.
This isn’t so much a lesson as an omen: If the government’s got a grip, we should see a hair trigger on those cooling measures. I’d expect, in fact I’d hope, to see another round soon. This property bubble is huge, and getting more wobbly by the day.
I do not think this is a hideous bubble especially signs from this came from public housing segment when psf hits 400 - 600 psf. It is different from 96 and 97 saga. You are not actually having physical empty HDBs from day 1 without fitting home owners in. You are seeing actual balloting numbers before commencing building of BTOs. Every few months you see balance flats being taken up. I do not see any problem of oversupply. It is at the most supplying enough for future demand. Resale is dead true, but the HDB resale ppi has been climbing up in 1 line without any fatigue. The truth is our public housing has never been once truely reflect market value although sentiment driven by interest rate and inflation. True enough, we probably may see oversupply in private markets causing correction but the bto policy is simply too strong to ensure that they do not build excessively. When interest rates adjust upwards which the SG government do not have any control, then we can rediscuss the demand portion again. The fear of oversupply in general caters more to private housing when only a segment of entire population constitute the demand
Actually I like your thread. Makes all the overly bullish property investor think twice. Everybody wants to buy something cheaply but personally don't think cursing another to go bankrupt, commit suicide, jump and die is the way for me to buy something cheaply. scare of karma. but that's just a matter of personal opinion.
your thread, your words, your life, your wish.
Please continue posting the headlines. Love it. :cheers5:
only personal moron like you think is cursing......this is norm for overleveraged in property everywhere across the world....in Spore, HK, tons of people bankrupt, commit suicide, family broken due to property crashing >50% from 1997 to 2003.....whatever be responsible, no mercy, no bailout......
That is why I said 100x here, let talk fact, analysis, news, information......BUT NO PERSONAL THINGS in this thread.....butmostly are morons here shouting personal attack & personal stuff they have....
This is the price to pay for overzealous in property investment.
Hope your dream will come true soon b4 you went bersek beyond cure.
When that moment come will it be another 3 years of daily shouting buy buy
buy property price is going up fast.:doh:
this is typical of moron.....overzealous?? who care, only you think this way, in your mind only $$, nothing else....
nothing to do with dream, only fools dream & hope like you everyday, property cheong to sky....
berealistic, go out & look at the world....global economy are collapsing everywhere in the world is true fact.....debt already too large & it will explode & cause no growth for next 20 yrs globally....this is knowledge....
real moron & $$ beast.....;););)
speculator
21-04-12, 08:21
only personal moron like you think is cursing......this is norm for overleveraged in property everywhere across the world....in Spore, HK, tons of people bankrupt, commit suicide, family broken due to property crashing >50% from 1997 to 2003.....whatever be responsible, no mercy, no bailout......
That is why I said 100x here, let talk fact, analysis, news, information......BUT NO PERSONAL THINGS in this thread.....butmostly are morons here shouting personal attack & personal stuff they have....
What is a personal moron?
You're not cursing them to crash and burn but stating a fact they will all crash and burn and jump.
My mistake then :D
speculator
21-04-12, 08:28
Fact: Singapore pledges $5b to IMF
IMF collecting so much money to buy property? :banghead:
Source
http://www.todayonline.com/Hotnews/EDC120421-0000061/Spore-pledges-S$5b-to-boost-IMF-resources
Fact: Singapore pledges $5b to IMF
IMF collecting so much money to buy property? :banghead:
Source
http://www.todayonline.com/Hotnews/EDC120421-0000061/Spore-pledges-S$5b-to-boost-IMF-resources
The $5bil of our reserve can be considered written off.
phantom_opera
21-04-12, 08:34
IMF is not charity
While basic shouting leaving Singapore ... ultra rich families in Europe are setting up office in Singapore
IMF is not charity
While basic shouting leaving Singapore ... ultra rich families in Europe are setting up office in Singapore
How to ask money back from IMF? It is always in need of cash. Maybe we can catch all our Ah Longs and send them to harass IMF.
Ya lor.. Didn't know that MR B is so stress while on holiday.. On one hand seeing property price keep climbing & on the other hand worry for his rental back home..:rolleyes:
I don't think he is on holiday. looks like he is in thailand doing the tiffany show.
regency321
21-04-12, 09:11
How to ask money back from IMF? It is always in need of cash. Maybe we can catch all our Ah Longs and send them to harass IMF.
Its a donation la, only call pledge cos sound nicer. IMF got generate profit one meh, when will countries ever get the money back?
We have no choice but to contribute, cos if whole world go into recession/depression due to Europe woes, the impact to Singapore may be far greater. Some great mathematician must have worked out and decided it is ok for us to donate $4b.
Its a donation la, only call pledge cos sound nicer. IMF got generate profit one meh, when will countries ever get the money back?
We have no choice but to contribute, cos if whole world go into recession/depression due to Europe woes, the impact to Singapore may be far greater. Some great mathematician must have worked out and decided it is ok for us to donate $4b.
And 1b as tips. :D
IMF is not charity
While basic shouting leaving Singapore ... ultra rich families in Europe are setting up office in Singapore
An example is the Spinola family of Genoa.
http://www.4-traders.com/CREDIT-SUISSE-GROUP-AG-9364979/strategies-broker-research/Europe-s-old-wealth-seeks-new-home-in-Asia-14274990/
I agree, there are many well to do Europeans and other countrymen trying to make their way to Singapore.
Despite the 10%ABSD, there are still foreigners buying out properties!
We are in a fortunate situation whereby the global demand of our properties fall exceeds the supply. And the current cooling measures are all targetted at protecting our citizens from being priced out by 1) Investors hogging on to properties in hoping of ripping the next buyer of (quite a few forumers here are responsible for this) 2) foreigners trying to get into Singapore and crowd the locals out.
If you dont understand what I am saying, trying checking out some places in US, where the Chinese are effectively pricing out the Americans. The situation is bad, and resentment is huge! Places like California, San Jose, Sunnyvale (hope I spell correctly), etc.
DKSG
foreigners purchased down 78%....only 1.7% of foreigners here paid income tax...so almost 99% very poor & earn below $2000.....so who is the buyers in last few months?? developers themselves, developers forced suppliers to buy?? insiders?? whatever.....resale is death, why bother to look at it, if want to offer, 20-30% below valuaiton or last transacted price or just forget it.....their time is running out, globally everywhere on fire now, borrow & borrow but sure cannot pay up, just wait for tons of banks to bankrupt soon.....that is it, by then they cut 30-40% also no takers....
rental also death, tons of property for rent in propertyguru...many are there for 6-12 months & no tenants...rate is low, with maintenance, renovaiton, furniture, monthly mortgage loan, every month also a big sum....with tenants, more headache...
those try to sell low already can't sell, don't talk about those want to sell high, has to wait till the low price one to clear, they can tan ku ku for next 20 yrs....
stop buying or offer low, many will be pressured by retrenchment, pay cut, tenants, taxes, high oil price & expenses, rate hike......time flies, wait for this weekend france election, early nextmonth Greece....also new cooling measures coming, stock is death, more land sales, next month cow should dump another 10k BTO.....
holiday also qiuet now, shopping mall is empty, restaurant bo lang....
property is biggest bubble of spore...many people will bankrupt & jump down after bubble burst...personal mortagage loan of >S$120Bil, external crisis will burst this bubble like 1997 & lehman bros 2008 & this time much much bigger, no mercy, no bailout...cannot profit pocketed, lost taxpayers' foot the bill...has to have responsibility value, let them solve their own problems.....now is good time to cut price & run....later bankrupt, face it.....;););)
rich foreigners is here??? Bo XiLai's wife?? more likely all the black, grey & dirty money laundry is here....probably spore is the most money laundry in the world to push up property price....China & other countries should take action & recover all these $$......
some come but more local are leaving for good.....
no need to shout for foreigners FT/FW/rich or poor.....all these will eventually come & go, here is not their home, these are all opportunists, speculate, that is why stop buying now....they buy, later they will sell, unlike local sporean we need a shelter, when property market collapse you will know who dump & run, very short term.....
rich, very few come, spore is not for them, small, hot & humid, they will have more fun at nice weather & huge country, easily get bored & not many of their kind here, not much activities to do here....business?? all in northern aisa....what market we have here?? financial? our stock market is totally a follower, we don't lead anything in this world, we have no say of any of these markets, so big one will not come here.....
poor & those in HDB, mostly are uncivilised, they will only create more social problems, not worth at all.....only lower spore standard & in recession, you will see the real colour like PIIGS today....
they are totally different from immigrants from early 20th century.....spore is a small dot, no space for all these rubbish, human needs space if not physical conflict, stress.....if spore grow to 6 millions, I will migrate, they can have spore, I can give it to them, no problem....many sporean already left in last few yrs, many will do so as this is no more a country they once know......
today with 40% are 'new comers', mixtures of all colour, religious, culture, language....this is a very dabgerous sign of a society, original sporean already not going to protect the country, loyal to the country as the govt is not taking care of them, why they care about the country...talk is cheap, see what they do & action....just like all the fake & fraud data...wait for the hard truth....
very vey few will die for spore now, unlike 80s, 90s....if tsunami in spore, all will run away, no one will go down to nuclear reactor if we have 1.....Japan, korea & Taiwan are totally different, they have heart & soul for the country, they have very little foreigners....when in crisis & recession, all will know, spore will like Dubai, foreigners will all pack with their luggages & head towards changi airport....spore is just a hotel eventually, the way they plan it........;););)
This reminds me of the song :
There was a time when people say that Singapore wont make,
But we did ...
There was a time when troubles seems to much to take,
But we did ...
Anyway, enough of emo, hot news from the ground !
Just back from viewing a few resale units in various districts, and guess what ? Resale demand is slowly creeping back! There are at least a few viewers within the 30 mins I was in each of these resale units viewing. Most people started to realise that if I am going to pay $1,700 psf, I might as well get Freehold East Coast rather than 99LH Bishan!
So watch this space, the spike in Singapore property demand is going to be obivous in the very near future.
But of course if you subscribe to the 50% crash in 2 years time (from dont know which point in time), then you better not buy and wait out.
DKSG
Reporting "Live" from various older, TOP projects!
HK property market will be at all time high next week.
It is going up so fast this year, more to come.
speculator
21-04-12, 20:39
rich foreigners is here??? Bo XiLai's wife?? more likely all the black, grey & dirty money laundry is here....probably spore is the most money laundry in the world to push up property price....China & other countries should take action & recover all these $$......
some come but more local are leaving for good.....
The Fact is;
Singapore is AAA rated by all Rating Agencies including China's 大公
Do a count and see how many Asian Countries are of the same rating.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_credit_rating
If what Basic is right, then these people will think our "Washing Machine" is safer, reputable brand and better. It doesn't damage their "Laundry" and will therefore continue to send their "Dirty Laundry" here for cleaning. :banana:
HK property market will be at all time high next week.
It is going up so fast this year, more to come.
That's scary..:scared-3: Cos MR B use to take HK property mkt as the benchmark for S'pore property mkt.. Does that mean that our property price will follow suit??:scared-4:
That's scary..:scared-3: Cos MR B use to take HK property mkt as the benchmark for S'pore property mkt.. Does that mean that our property price will follow suit??:scared-4:
Singapore CONFIRM will follow suit. Just that the pace of increase will be moderated. Remember, Sg is a far more stable market than HK.
DKSG
奧柏200伙 不足4小時沽清
【經濟日報專訊】信置（00083）及市建局合作發展的大角咀奧柏．御峯昨日開售，可供發售的200伙於三個半小時內沽清。發展商隨即兩度加推200伙，平均呎價10,234元。
While we are informed that China is seeing 50% declines in property prices (by Ah B), HK is painting a different picture. 200 units were snapped up within 3.5 hours after the doors are opened.
Developer are holding back the other units for better pricing.
This is scary man (to Ah B!)
DKSG
PS : Got from this website so that you all can verify : http://hk.realestate.yahoo.net/propertynews/1334962772.html
speculator
21-04-12, 23:21
奧柏200伙 不足4小時沽清
【經濟日報專訊】信置（00083）及市建局合作發展的大角咀奧柏．御峯昨日開售，可供發售的200伙於三個半小時內沽清。發展商隨即兩度加推200伙，平均呎價10,234元。
While we are informed that China is seeing 50% declines in property prices (by Ah B), HK is painting a different picture. 200 units were snapped up within 3.5 hours after the doors are opened.
Developer are holding back the other units for better pricing.
This is scary man (to Ah B!)
DKSG
PS : Got from this website so that you all can verify : http://hk.realestate.yahoo.net/propertynews/1334962772.html
what is the psf? maybe selling cheaply (fire sale)
里昂：5年咪掂 地產股
利率趨升 樓價長遠淡
HK?? king of HK property analyst, 里昂.don't touch HK property & property stock for next 5 yrs...I said next 20 yrs....
those news shouted by developers themselves...can totally ignored.....
sky habitat also shouted strong sell....I can assure 3 yrs later, still have tons unsold....that is why govt must come out rule to sell all wihtin 1 yr, if not must force them to cut price to sell or confiscate.....really waste of resources.....
phantom_opera
22-04-12, 08:03
香港是全球空氣污染最嚴重的城市之一﹐與開羅和墨西哥城等城市不相上下。香港是亞洲霧霾天氣最嚴重的城市之一﹐空氣質量排在北京和新德里後。
HK property is still so hot despite the quality of air .. location location location :rolleyes:
上海:多个豪宅楼价狂跌40%
2012年4月18日
杭州开发商亏本卖楼
2012年4月19日
上海房价已连续8个月下跌 二手房跌幅超过新房
2012年4月20日
武汉四川等地已有上千家房企消失
2012年4月20日
sure....shanghai I was there last yr & this yr....many down 30-40% yet still no buyers now....Beijing is the same....
developers even sells below cost....this is free market, weak & overleveraged, must let them bankrupt....
across china easily, 5000 developers bakrupt now.....let it be....;););)
US official: Chinese firm suspected in missile-linked sale to North Korea
April 21st, 2012
Kyodo quotes a Japanese gov’t official today saying:”we understand that the (#DPRK nuke) test can be conducted at any time.”
April 21st, 2012
Russian Pacific Fleet’s flagship Varyag, a slava-class guided missile cruiser, arrived at a naval base in Qingdao of east China on Saturday for a joint exercise with the Chinese navy.
April 21st, 2012
Report: N. Korea nuclear test may come within 2 weeks
April 21st, 2012
read yourself.....has to pay back wan....fight with philipines or US-led better??.......;););)
Gerald Celente says the global debt bubble is about to implode and Great Depression II to begin
April 21st, 2012
Forget next year’s “fiscal cliff”… Another big shock could be coming much sooner
April 21st, 2012
The Kondratieff Cycle Wave Strikes Back
April 20th, 2012
GARY SHILLING: Here’s Why The US Is About To Plunge Into A New Recession
April 20th, 2012
this is US...coming....;););)
Spain is About to Enter a Full-Scale Collapse
April 21st, 2012
Dutch prime minister confirms austerity talks have collapsed
April 21st, 2012
One Reason This Will Be A Huge Week For Spain…
April 21st, 2012
I’m not trying to ruin your day with this. But ignore what is going on in Spain at your own risk.
April 20th, 2012
Spanish and Italian borrowing costs already at unsustainable levels
April 19th, 2012
this is Europe...much worse...anytime now.....;););)
Robert Fitzwilson: We Are Witnessing The Largest Financial Bubble In History
April 19th, 2012
bubble will start to burst from this yr.....those who bought or hold tight tight to your property, when price crashing down, you will regret, heart pain, see all paper gain vaporised...already too late, gone is gone, another 20 yrs also cannot see it back again.....by then , you will shout why so stupid, why miss to sell, why hold....why....or if...or why I did not sell or....hahaaaa...normal lah, this is norm of failures...see the future, that is the difference.....
resale & rental already death, want to run now also late, unless you willing to cut lost....cut 20-30% & sell fast or let the situation develop to make you regret later.....cut lost is also very important, once detect wrong, get out fast instead of letting lost grow till it kill you....no need to dream & hope, act, act fast......
no buyers now, only fools buy now unless still have fooler fool around.....stop buying, wait & let time do it for you.....;););)
phantom_opera
22-04-12, 09:48
Asking price in hdb and OCR for resale is up after sky habitat and katong regency stunt ha ha
Asking price in hdb and OCR for resale is up after sky habitat and katong regency stunt ha ha
hahaaaaa....joker, low price alreday can't sell, hang there for 4-6 months, can't sell, still want to sell high?? COV down, valuation down, tons selling >10% below valuation now, still no takers.....you can ask for double price, who care....up price & CM fast is a better choice....
CCR, many already down 20-40%....OCR, new one below $750 psf...soon will be below $650 psf....OCR resale hope to sell above $700, can hold till market crash & regret for life.....norm....;)
Came across about this interesting thread when I was pondering about the asset class (real estate) which inevitably forms an integral part of most people's portfolio.
My simple view is this, one needs to differentiate between the roof over your head and investment property. Never play with the roof over your head. Buying the roof over your head hoping for a huge gain in near term is a futile speculation. Selling the roof over your head hoping for a huge crash in future is a more even dangerous game.
Of course if it's not the roof over your head, the dynamics and considerations are different. But never be too stubborn in one direction. Don't be a senseless bull or an overly stubborn bear. Nobody can single handedly defy trend or gravity. Flexibility and an acute, logical sense of analysis will save a lot of heartache when it comes to investing.
Just my :2cents:
Where are the "tons"? Have a few friends looking for them? Pls PM me. :D
hahaaaaa....joker, low price alreday can't sell, hang there for 4-6 months, can't sell, still want to sell high?? COV down, valuation down, tons selling >10% below valuation now, still no takers.....you can ask for double price, who care....up price & CM fast is a better choice....
CCR, many already down 20-40%....OCR, new one below $750 psf...soon will be below $650 psf....OCR resale hope to sell above $700, can hold till market crash & regret for life.....norm....;)
Where are the "tons"? Have a few friends looking for them? Pls PM me. :D
Ya. I also have many many friends looking to buy.
Putting money in bank now is the worse thing to do.
If market crash, US print, Europe print, everything will be inflated away.
Only physical assets like PROPERTIES will withstand the inflation like we have seen in the last few years.
Resale market in Singapore is coming alive again in the next few months. Yesterday, went to view a few resale units and am VERY VERY surprised to see at least 2-3 groups of people viewing the same units (I went to a few in a various districts). So I reckon from this observation that resale market is going to pick up real soon.
Singapore property market is likely to inch up 1-3% within the next quarter. People will realise that resale has so much more value when compared to new sales.
If someone or Ah B, happens to spot those asking 10%-20% below last done, PLLEEAASEEE tell us here. We gotta help those sellers out. Else they have to ask for 50% below last done. That will be bad for their families. At 20%, I got a few kind hearted friends willing to help these sellers already.
A good deed a day, keeps the devil away!
DKSG
PS: Those I viewed yesterday, all asking for at least 5% above last done. Though net net, I suspect 3% can still get.
奧柏200伙 不足4小時沽清
【經濟日報專訊】信置（00083）及市建局合作發展的大角咀奧柏．御峯昨日開售，可供發售的200伙於三個半小時內沽清。發展商隨即兩度加推200伙，平均呎價10,234元。
While we are informed that China is seeing 50% declines in property prices (by Ah B), HK is painting a different picture. 200 units were snapped up within 3.5 hours after the doors are opened.
Developer are holding back the other units for better pricing.
This is scary man (to Ah B!)
DKSG
PS : Got from this website so that you all can verify : http://hk.realestate.yahoo.net/propertynews/1334962772.html
Confirmed with my HK friend, this is certainly not Fire Sale.
If Fire Sale can create such interest, then wont be fire anymore lor.
Ah B ; Comment on this ? Is this a once off incident ? HK market on overall is down how many percent ? What you project to be the decline in the next 1-2 quarters and next 1-2 years ?
DKSG
Project is 87% sold and each person is limited to buy only 2 units !
That is much more stringent than those I see here in Sg. The latest I saw is each person is limited to 6 units of commercial spaces in some new developments.
DKSG
PS: Gosh! The market is getting hot!!!
Where are the "tons"? Have a few friends looking for them? Pls PM me. :D
MISSED THE BOAT EXPERT MR B is referring to China property market lah..
As usual, he is good in diverting attention & confuse ppl..:D
Confirmed with my HK friend, this is certainly not Fire Sale.
If Fire Sale can create such interest, then wont be fire anymore lor.
Ah B ; Comment on this ? Is this a once off incident ? HK market on overall is down how many percent ? What you project to be the decline in the next 1-2 quarters and next 1-2 years ?
DKSG
stupid moronic dog, if you have money why don't buy 1 in HK & list down here, we will help you to track, see you lost 50% or 80% in 3 yrs from now....if no money, then dump all you have to buy the developers shares & put down here....as I have said below this morning.....
reak stupid moron......;););)
里昂：5年咪掂 地產股
利率趨升 樓價長遠淡
HK?? king of HK property analyst, 里昂.don't touch HK property & property stock for next 5 yrs...I said next 20 yrs....
those news shouted by developers themselves...can totally ignored.....
sky habitat also shouted strong sell....I can assure 3 yrs later, still have tons unsold....that is why govt must come out rule to sell all wihtin 1 yr, if not must force them to cut price to sell or confiscate.....really waste of resources.....
only fools will buy....CCR tons selling for $1400-1800 psf, who will buy a HDB area for $1300-1400 psf, not many fools around, that is why need to advertise $mil in TV, govt media day & night to cxxxx fools.....hahaaaa.....real fool will also buy CCR. many CCR already down 20-40%, run road liao, no more foreigners buying, smart one took profit, fools buy peak & sell bottom in last 1-2 yrs, those buy now deserve to bankcrupt.....;););)
MISSED THE BOAT EXPERT MR B is referring to China property market lah..
As usual, he is good in diverting attention & confuse ppl..:D
hahaaa...rubbish rat, this morning your little rat eat your shyt in your HDB hole or vice versa....I thought you have poisoned all your little rats not to dirty this world & waste food?? kill them lah, do a good deed for human....;););)
hahaaa...rubbish rat, this morning your little rat eat your shyt in your HDB hole or vice versa....I thought you have poisoned all your little rats not to dirty this world & waste food?? kill them lah, do a good deed for human....;););)
HDB?? Oh too bad, I sold my 5-rm couple of year ago when it was $400k..
I should have listen to your advise to "hold tight tight".. till $800k.. & now $900k.. :(
Gerald Celente says the global debt bubble is about to implode and Great Depression II to begin
April 21st, 2012
Forget next year’s “fiscal cliff”… Another big shock could be coming much sooner
April 21st, 2012
The Kondratieff Cycle Wave Strikes Back
April 20th, 2012
GARY SHILLING: Here’s Why The US Is About To Plunge Into A New Recession
April 20th, 2012
this is US...coming....;););)
ah cow is useless, no guts or even worse than MBT on developers side....
still dare not come out with cooling measures...the longer he delays, more victims & the crash will be harder.....
take S$mil, do nothing, sitting on it....do or not, whatever will be will be....when time comes, not doing anything now, will noly make thing much worse....be a man, responsible to it......;););)
Ah B !
Dont worry, in time to come I will list down those units I buy and how much I made so far. Actually my D9/D10 (cant be too specific here) unit is FOC to me! Cos it is bought based on the profits made in property market itself!
It is ok that people here have different views of the market, no need to call names. U present your facts, we present out facts, then we see what comes true at the end of the day.
For me, if I am wrong, I will gladly admit it, if market really, crash 50% in 2 years time like you say, I will admit you are right!
But since your projection has such looong time lag, it is difficult to say if you are right or not. And since property is such large sum investments, it pays to track the market on a quarter to quarter basis.
What is your view of the next 1-3 quarters till end 2012 ? Market will start to show signs of decline due to the various factors you mentioned ?
Or no, market will still show signs of improvement until end 2013 (which is your 2 year), then crash due to Spain/Italy/European countries disorderly default ? You believe Spain's default will trigger the world recession ?
So if Spain successfully adverted the default, will it mean the world is saved ? Or there will be another factor we need to consider ?
Think analytically, dont just shout headlines based on some mini website of doomsayers. Then we can discuss meaningfully here.
I believe most people here wish that market will really crash, most people here shld have at least 50% of their reserves in cash. So dont disappoint us lor!
What we probably disagree is the 50% crash. If you say 15%, many will agree or hope with you one.
DKSG
PS : Back from a few showflats, Ripple Bay - Sold like 500+ units in April itself ! Sky Habitat says inching towards 200 units ! And a few of those quiet showflats (eg Minton, etc) are all showing signs of revival ! Resale units are seeing many more viewers than 2-3 months ago!
Ah B !
Dont worry, in time to come I will list down those units I buy and how much I made so far. Actually my D9/D10 (cant be too specific here) unit is FOC to me! Cos it is bought based on the profits made in property market itself!
It is ok that people here have different views of the market, no need to call names. U present your facts, we present out facts, then we see what comes true at the end of the day.
For me, if I am wrong, I will gladly admit it, if market really, crash 50% in 2 years time like you say, I will admit you are right!
But since your projection has such looong time lag, it is difficult to say if you are right or not. And since property is such large sum investments, it pays to track the market on a quarter to quarter basis.
What is your view of the next 1-3 quarters till end 2012 ? Market will start to show signs of decline due to the various factors you mentioned ?
Or no, market will still show signs of improvement until end 2013 (which is your 2 year), then crash due to Spain/Italy/European countries disorderly default ? You believe Spain's default will trigger the world recession ?
So if Spain successfully adverted the default, will it mean the world is saved ? Or there will be another factor we need to consider ?
Think analytically, dont just shout headlines based on some mini website of doomsayers. Then we can discuss meaningfully here.
I believe most people here wish that market will really crash, most people here shld have at least 50% of their reserves in cash. So dont disappoint us lor!
What we probably disagree is the 50% crash. If you say 15%, many will agree or hope with you one.
DKSG
PS : Back from a few showflats, Ripple Bay - Sold like 500+ units in April itself ! Sky Habitat says inching towards 200 units ! And a few of those quiet showflats (eg Minton, etc) are all showing signs of revival ! Resale units are seeing many more viewers than 2-3 months ago!
hahaa...stupid joker....I am not interested in your past...said wahtever, anyone can self-claimed they make S$bil in the past, who care...from the way you presented yourself in this thread, you are the most panic & worry, ask you to get lost to your bull thread, you have never failed to come back everyday just show how desperate you are, & worry of the content of this thread....then start your own thread....you are overleveraged & you are gamble more than you can take....that is all you have??....
Just list down what you buy today, stock & property, price & quantity which we can verify now & moving forward, then this is real....others, self-claimed what you like, it's all your personal joke.....
property down >50% before 2015....still firm & confidence.....
start your own thread if people interested in your content, they will view....I will not even bother to read a single post there, will not post there & will not name calling here.....I have never started 1 single name calling yet....only reply & defend myself....seen many call my nick all over in this forum almost every threads....hahaaaa....all these morons rubbishes.....real hopeless & shamelesss.....;););)
hahaa...stupid joker....I am not interested in your past...said wahtever, anyone can self-claimed they make S$bil in the past, who care...from the way you presented yourself in this thread, you are the most panic & worry, ask you to get lost to your bull thread, you have never failed to come back everyday just show how desperate you are, & worry of the content of this thread....then start your own thread....you are overleveraged & you are gamble more than you can take....that is all you have??....
Just list down what you buy today, stock & property, price & quantity which we can verify now & moving forward, then this is real....others, self-claimed what you like, it's all your personal joke.....
property down >50% before 2015....still firm & confidence.....
start your own thread if people interested in your content, they will view....I will not even bother to read a single post there, will not post there & will not name calling here.....I have never started 1 single name calling yet....only reply & defend myself....seen many call my nick all over in this forum almost every threads....hahaaaa....all these morons rubbishes.....real hopeless & shamelesss.....;););)
....wah who is self claiming all the time......FYI you do not own the thread.....its a free forum, we come in as we please....hahaha sad....trying to claim virtual property is it?
Didn't I say those holding cash will see their value go down the drain?
People always think hold cash is safest, but that is a fallacy, especially with almost ZERO bank interest and official inflation rate >5% (actual inflation you will feel on the ground will be even very much higher)!
But then again, what to do? Buy properties that people think under-valued (not new launch), govt then slam with lots of cooling measures but yet didn't do anything much that target the new launch specifically that is the one in bubblish stage and allow "deferred payment scheme" for new launch purchase.... :doh:
Buy shares, bought only see them drop 2 days up 1 day, drop 3 days up 2 day, get heart-attack! :mad:
Hi bro,I agreed with what you said about inflation
Buy bonds, well, get locked in long term and see that transacted price up and down and cannot sell when need money without losing money. :banghead:
Buy Investment-linked products, REITs, endowment funds, units trusts etc and get ripped off with sales charges & annual managements fees, before make money and lost money upfront! :simmering:
Ha ha ha! Govt don't want you to make easy money? You all better work hard harder hardest, fast, faster, fastest, work more efficient, most efficient, work more productive, most productive! (officially you are supposed to work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week for a total of 40 hours a week - Actually to achieve better and better productivity and efficiency and by cutting staff to make 1 staff do originally 2 people's job, people end up working 80 hours or more a week! The youngs think they earn a lot nowsadays, but little did they realize that is because they put in 80 hours a week effort vs yester-years people only working 40 hours a week!:hell-hath-no-fury:
Hi bro,i agreed that other investment products are not that lucrative compared with investing in ppty.Inflation also eats up buying value of cash in bank.I am in dilemma as i have some spare cash sitting in the bank for more than a year doing nothing.I am like you,advocate of prime area,waiting whether to go in now or not for resale unit,pls advise.
speculator
22-04-12, 22:48
Sometimes a thread might be popular and frequently visited not because people are secretly fearful of its doomsday predictions or agree blindly with overly skewed views, but because sensation sells and one is curious, intrigued and occasional amused by the 'logic' behind these extreme views.
Mr B, please don't flame me though I expect you to call me a moron but can you outline what are the steps and strategies you had taken to express that excessively pessimistic view of yours? Surely you cannot be hanging on a tree in changi park like a bat like what some of those so called morons are proclaiming? Are you renting now waiting for that 50% crash which will 100% happen in your view? I am really curious. Call me a curious moron if you like. ;)
I am also berry curious too. I am about to renter the Mkt after waiting for so long. About to renter when this thread started. Sometime what my not so educated friends say also true. Don't over analyse.
I am also berry curious too. I am about to renter the Mkt after waiting for so long. About to renter when this thread started. Sometime what my not so educated friends say also true. Don't over analyse.
Yes. Buy Resale Condo and old Landed.
Sometimes a thread might be popular and frequently visited not because people are secretly fearful of its doomsday predictions or agree blindly with overly skewed views, but because sensation sells and one is curious, intrigued and occasional amused by the 'logic' behind these extreme views.
Mr B, please don't flame me though I expect you to call me a moron but can you outline what are the steps and strategies you had taken to express that excessively pessimistic view of yours? Surely you cannot be hanging on a tree in changi park like a bat like what some of those so called morons are proclaiming? Are you renting now waiting for that 50% crash which will 100% happen in your view? I am really curious. Call me a curious moron if you like. ;)
haha.....stupid moron....it all in this thread, it just you are living in denial, that is why all of you keep coming back with same rubbish questions with answer.....only when it unfold big way, I will assure you, all morons will read this thread like bible.....when you start to appreciate it, too late......all already gone.....
all of you don't bother, why should I....that is why I said, don't waste time.....move on....time will come in next 1-3 yrs before 2015, property will down >50%......;););)
Yes. Buy Resale Condo and old Landed.
resale already death, whether is condo or landed or HDB....COV down, valuation down, almost all sell below valuation now....all these will spiral down over time from now....
rental also death....
only fools buy now....OCR new unit selling below $750....who would pay >$700 for old condo. 10-30 yrs old.....
same to CCR.....
If don't cut price & sell now....wait for down >50% or force sell or auction by banks later.....
Beware: A Chinese Recession Is Coming – Forbes
April 21st, 2012
Move production to the United States from China
April 20th, 2012
China set for stormy seas as it’s current account surplus has declined sharply
April 19th, 2012
Russian Is Massing Troops On Iran’s North Border And Waiting for Western Attack
April 21st, 2012
this is China & Russia.....conflict between western world & old communist block getting bigger now....ar least western world bully will not success so easily...over time, they will lose out due to economic & political power...the world is changing fast....that is why a topple is here sooner than everyone think.....;););)
Big win for Hollande but even more stunning victory for extreme right winger Le Pen, which only proves that nationalism is back in Europe with a vengeance.
April 22nd, 2012
SARKOZY LOSES: Hollande won between 28 and 30% of the vote in the first round, to Sarkozy’s 24 to 27.5
April 22nd, 2012
let kick out sarkozy 1st...merkel is the next one to be gone later.....still have 3 more election for Europe next month....mostly will change govt....global in a wave to change govt, policy, reverse all nonsense in past 3 yrs on the way....
China is changing in July/August....then US in Nov.....
FED will be gone....time to unwind all printed $$, hot money will be gone, rate will shoot, you will know what happen by then....
ah cow is still sleeping.....real hopeless....mai kia, just do it....
haha.....stupid moron....it all in this thread, it just you are living in denial, that is why all of you keep coming back with same rubbish questions with answer.....only when it unfold big way, I will assure you, all morons will read this thread like bible.....when you start to appreciate it, too late......all already gone.....
all of you don't bother, why should I....that is why I said, don't waste time.....move on....time will come in next 1-3 yrs before 2015, property will down >50%......;););)
Please stick to your original predicitions unless you yourself have gone into denial and don't believe in them anymore.....
The facts are here:
Posted on 30 Oct 2011 (post #31)
can you read??...
now down 10-20% from 1-2 moths ago....
1-2 yrs later...will be down 40% from 1-2 months ago....
don't shout any number what you like.....
Posted in Mar 2012 (Post #9590)
STI go below 1000 & property price down >50% in 2-3 yrs time before 2015....
Basic has started this thread in Oct 2011 with the heading that property price is coming down fast.
His earlier post on 30 Oct 2011 stated that prices will fall 10% to 20% from 1 to 2 mths before Oct 11. Index as at end 3Q 2011 was 205.7
Index as at end 4Q was 206.2. Index for 1Q 2012 was 206
His FIRST prediction of 10% to 20% down NOW (i.e. Oct/Nov 2011) is already WRONG Hence he HAS FAILED for first prediction.
Originally Posted by basic
human being is insane till this stage....nobody wantfailure but must have gut to face failure....up/down, male/female, hot/cold, boom/burst.....all is nature, why we cannot face hard truth??....
He obviously doesn’t practice what he preaches to face the hard truth to admit FAILURE because in his most recent post starting from 3 weeks ago in Mar 2012 to now, he no longer mentions the first prediction and has in fact changed his second prediction to >50% in 2 to 3 yrs time.
I only operate on facts. Name calling/taunting and flood posting of news will not change the current grading of this thread unless evidence of statistics from official sources supporting his assertations are received and verified.
Based on his original prediction , I am afraid that he has lost all credibility for his FIRST prediction and the current grade for his second prediction is still : FAIL
Spain Is An Absolute Disaster
April 22nd, 2012
Spain is Greece… Only Bigger and Worse
April 22nd, 2012
Spain is Doomed; Why Austerity is Destroying Europe
April 22nd, 2012
Unemployment among Europe’s young people has soared by 50% since the financial crisis of 2008.
April 22nd, 2012
PIIGS are gone case....why we still loan them money?? only make things worse....stop supporting them, let them fight back themselves, learn how to fish....
stop using Euro, stop dealing with Euro zone, let them be competitive, let them want to work 7 get back to work hard....may need 1-2 generaitons, but that is the only way.....
globally will collapse 1st to rebuild....print to hyperinflaiton then collapse to hyperdeflation....why let them pull down globally, let them sink alone, stop printing, instead hike rate to kill them then they have the will to fight for their survival....
the time has come.....will see many country, bank, corporatiom...down 1 by 1....crash the Euro.....
at least will see half a millions foreigners leaving spore, if can make it 1 million will be nice...their service is not required due to bad jobs, look at hole in the road, pipe leaking, building cracking, bus drivers drive to no where, mrt breakdown, hospital wrong presciption, wrong communication, build & tear down & build.....many will be sent home, terminate visa, no renewal of any permit, PR....same to PMET & many foreigners & their family....all can go home & get lost.....;););)
Pl
stupid moron...eat shyt lah....hahaaaa....;););)
“$6.3tn wiped off stock markets in 2011″ – FT.com
April 22nd, 2012
40% stock movement is about to move the other direction quickly
April 22nd, 2012
buy property in last 1-2 yrs lost money as no buyer now, can't sell unless you want to cut lost & sell 20-30% below valuation...many bought & let seller forfeit option $$ in last few months, just to make market hot in #, all these rubbish tricks, many more to come....
buy stock also lost money....STI may look ok but majority below 2011, even 2010 price now....global lost US$6.3trillion...most printed $$ already evaporated...this yr will be much worse....May is coming, more bad news everyday, once crash down, all will short till Dow go below 3500 using printed $$.....
rubbish think they are smarter than market & all get killed....then keep borrowing to whack harder....all is debt, just wait for crash, all bankrupt...what lambogini or $20mil property, all is loan...globally is the same, all these real human rubbish.....time is here for them to hump down soon.....;););)
haha.....stupid moron....it all in this thread, it just you are living in denial, that is why all of you keep coming back with same rubbish questions with answer.....only when it unfold big way, I will assure you, all morons will read this thread like bible.....when you start to appreciate it, too late......all already gone.....
all of you don't bother, why should I....that is why I said, don't waste time.....move on....time will come in next 1-3 yrs before 2015, property will down >50%......;););)
Swee!!!!!! We will revisited this on 31st Dec 2014 at 11pm lol....
But prices must drop below 2011 prices hor..... not lower than 2014 Nov prices ah.....
If drop 50% I SURE BUY MORE AH!!!!!!
Unemployment among Europe’s young people has soared by 50% since the financial crisis of 2008.
April 22nd, 2012
Bloody Monday: Markets Are Falling After A Horrible Weekend For Europe
April 22nd, 2012
with Dutch in trouble....PIIGS cry till no more tears, will fight back...France go all the way to stop printing & go against Germany & EU....
once Europe crash hard....spore property will run like no tomorrow....all will dump at any price as long as got takers....but cow, your responsibility now is still to launch 10k-15k of BTO to cover last few yrs rubbish horse short fall...also to dump out as many land sales as possible to cover lost in revenue in next few yrs.....
time is here....no buyer now, wait some more as 120k-150k of sellers out there to exit at the same time...so let them cut price for you or if need to buy, at least down 20-30% from last gtransacted price....it's better to stop buying, don't fall into developers trap of all kinds of rubbish news to make you excited...actually is empty shell, sing & clap themselves to xxxxx fools.....property to down >50% before 2015....CCR already take lead to down, OCR is definitely not worth the value now, below $600 psf will be able to get in next 1-2 yrs easily.... ;););)
speculator
23-04-12, 16:01
Swee!!!!!! We will revisited this on 31st Dec 2014 at 11pm lol....
But prices must drop below 2011 prices hor..... not lower than 2014 Nov prices ah.....
If drop 50% I SURE BUY MORE AH!!!!!!
Hope to buy Reflections at Keppel tower 2B
20+ high floor with sea view at $500 psf!
Compare to current $2000+ psf now I could maybe buy 4 units!
:D
with spare change to buy Basic a meal
Hope to buy Reflections at Keppel tower 2B
20+ high floor with sea view at $500 psf!
Compare to current $2000+ psf I could maybe buy 4 units!
:D
with spare change to buy Basic a meal
Then OCR 150 psf? Then HDB? 75 psf!!! Then construction cost, How? Land cost How? Workers salary, how? Shareholders' dividend how? Then entire Singapore how?
Hope to buy Reflections at Keppel tower 2B
20+ high floor with sea view at $500 psf!
Compare to current $2000+ psf now I could maybe buy 4 units!
:D
with spare change to buy Basic a meal
you can eat my dog shyt......worth more than your regular meal.....:):):)
Then OCR 150 psf? Then HDB? 75 psf!!! Then construction cost, How? Land cost How? Workers salary, how? Shareholders' dividend how? Then entire Singapore how?
That has been what I have been trying to tell MR B...
CCR - 1k psf
OCR - 600psf
HDB in CCR location: 400psf
HDB is OCR location: 250psf
Brand new HDB: 150 psf
Land cost- -100 psf (assuming construction costs in 250psf)
:cheers4:
That has been what I have been trying to tell MR B...
CCR - 1k psf
OCR - 600psf
HDB in CCR location: 400psf
HDB is OCR location: 250psf
Brand new HDB: 150 psf
Land cost- -100 psf (assuming construction costs in 250psf)
:cheers4:
this is your scenario, not mine.....that anyhow arrow.....
If CCR $1k....OCR will below $450.....
HDB land cost not 100 psf....HDB construction also not $250 psf....
Unemployment among Europe’s young people has soared by 50% since the financial crisis of 2008.
April 22nd, 2012
Bloody Monday: Markets Are Falling After A Horrible Weekend For Europe
April 22nd, 2012
with Dutch in trouble....PIIGS cry till no more tears, will fight back...France go all the way to stop printing & go against Germany & EU....
once Europe crash hard....spore property will run like no tomorrow....all will dump at any price as long as got takers....but cow, your responsibility now is still to launch 10k-15k of BTO to cover last few yrs rubbish horse short fall...also to dump out as many land sales as possible to cover lost in revenue in next few yrs.....
time is here....no buyer now, wait some more as 120k-150k of sellers out there to exit at the same time...so let them cut price for you or if need to buy, at least down 20-30% from last gtransacted price....it's better to stop buying, don't fall into developers trap of all kinds of rubbish news to make you excited...actually is empty shell, sing & clap themselves to xxxxx fools.....property to down >50% before 2015....CCR already take lead to down, OCR is definitely not worth the value now, below $600 psf will be able to get in next 1-2 yrs easily.... ;););)
1)The Dutch governing coalition collapsed on Saturday when far-right politician Geert Wilders pulled out of budget cut talks, saying it was not in the Netherlands’ interest to meet the deficit limit of three per cent imposed by the new European fiscal pact
2)The Czech government faces a test of its ability to continue governing after an ambitious fiscal tightening programme splintered the ruling coalition and brought tens of thousands of protesters on to the streets of Prague at the weekend.
On May 6 the Greek government is likely to collapse, and Nicolas Sarkozy will be ousted as president of France
the right-wing Slovakia government collapsed in March
how long can german government take care all these newly form european government, will they fight against the will of mighty german?
hollande (likely France new president) said he will abandon the agreement between france and german once he is elected, he will have his own plan...
Europe is going to collapse very soon....same to spore property price...once Europe hit the jackpot, property here will plunge down fast, many will run for their life, anyhow dump as long as got buuyers....those still hope, can continue to hold till bank auction & force sell at bottom price, no mercy....the game for this yr already started.....DAX already down>10% in last 1 month.....PIIGS stock market almost at STI 1100 level now if you compared to last yr peak....just whack all down...stop helping them, let them fight for their own survive & learn how to fish.....all hands off....;););)
speculator
23-04-12, 21:18
you can eat my dog shyt......worth more than your regular meal.....:):):)
so unfriendly. :mad:
I sincerely and seriously wants to buy you a lavish meal if I get my $500 psf Reflections
so unfriendly. :mad:
I sincerely and seriously wants to buy you a lavish meal if I get my $500 psf Reflections
apologised.....:D:D
Army chief: IDF prepared for Iran strike
April 22nd, 2012
6 reasons why a war in South China Sea appears to be imminent
April 22nd, 2012
Iran war, south china sea, N korea with Japan.....many war developing...many in Asia, get ready for a fire & whack down Spore property price like 1991 Iraq war.....
many sellers already down their selling price...many try to sell 10% below valuaiton, still no buyers....better cut more & fast before all these global issues to shut down all doors for exit...developers also panic, many developers will bankrupt like in China, already >5000 developers bankrupt....let them be, no bailout, no mercy, free market rule....
ah cow seem like is working with developers now, so quiet.....if that is the case, that will be very bad to govt....if govt work with developers to skin their citizens, then voters will know what to do in 2016....even all ministers kneel down also no cure anymore......
situation turns real bad today....from Europe to US to Asia & China......let do it.....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
speculator
23-04-12, 22:09
apologised.....:D:D
Cheers............ :cheers4:
so unfriendly. :mad:
I sincerely and seriously wants to buy you a lavish meal if I get my $500 psf Reflections
miser leh
I will buy him 4d3n maldives if I can get $550psf :D
The Future Is Unknown, But We Know the Unsustainable Will Implode
April 23rd, 2012
Awful economic news from Europe and Asia: Spain enters recession, confidence hits a record low in Italy, Chinese PMI continued to signal contraction, Dutch government collapses
April 23rd, 2012
“I Do Not Believe, Any Longer, That The Catastrophe Can Be Avoided”- Mark Grant
April 23rd, 2012
already very clear liao....no more hope, global economy collapse is unavoidable now...run for your life now before too late....
Property to down >50% & STI will go below 1000 before 2015.....starting from this yr, let see how soon will we see these, 2014? 2013?....the eralier the better, then recover will be faster....if drag on then there will be no recovery in next 20 yrs....then many people will not see their price again in their life time.....
don't hope anymore, price crash is imminent now....just how soon & how fast....
many let go their option money in last few months...smart one, many more will do so in coming months when situation deteriorate...
situation will be 100x worse than lehman bros yet lehman case, spore property down 30%, 6 months after lehman bankrupt.....this time will be worse & no return anymore as printed $$ will have no effect anymore...it will backfire instead....
hold tight tight, if you think printed $$ will help.....FED likely to close down by then, situaiton will be super ugly....oyu can continue to hope & dream, price sure crash....be responsible by then, no bailout, no mercy....just wipe out everything till bankrupt.....huge retrenchment in europe will come very soon...same to spore....no more tenants & buyers for property, only people dump at any cost to avoiod deeper lost till nothing......:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
this is your scenario, not mine.....that anyhow arrow.....
If CCR $1k....OCR will below $450.....
HDB land cost not 100 psf....HDB construction also not $250 psf....
Now about 2k for CCR mah..... so 50% drop become 1k lah?
wrong meh?
S&P500 AT 800 BY YEAR END WITH BANKS AND APPLE THE WORST PERFORMERS
April 23rd, 2012
It’s 1936 All Over Again – The Obama 2012 campaign is channeling the ghost of Franklin D. Roosevelt in the Depression.
April 23rd, 2012
IMF Tells US to Sort Out Debt, Quickly
April 23rd, 2012
US & Dow are the most fake & fraud market in the world today.....they try so hard to push up market, try to tell the world, nothing has happened....no debt, no unemployment, everybody is happy & no issues.....but they can't change the reality, they can only fake data, fake market....this useless beast....
US itself in big trouble, whether is debt, deficit, unemployment, property, retirement, poverty, social problems.....they can fake whatever but if whole world is crashing down in Europe, china, Japan....see how are they going to tell the world, they worth so much, in actual fact they worth much much less...collapse....
a coward fake & fraud, a chow ah qua act, real shameful to US & americans....no need to look up on american, spit on them really...tell them they are a shame although their govt & FED did it, but they are responsible...
global picture is real ugly now, they can live in denial or lies or....but reality will swallow them all 1 fine day....situation is real bad, print & print but no growth, money like stolen & lost, debt become super huge....nobody will trust them & anyone anymore due to they don't care about their problem.....no need to wait long, just few months down the road, all will explode....last night DAX down 3% is just a beginning...more to come....Dax down >10% now, Dow only 2-3% & refuse to go down, same to STI, let see how long can they hold....all the rubbish rotten apple Iphone, junk.....
ah cow still so quiet & sitting on his problem....spore property is death, same as Dow, manipulated & trade among themselves....foreigners are leaving, borrowing is super high, only fools buy now, it's not sustainable, those bought in last 1-2 yrs, can’t sell now as no buyers, unless they willing to cut lost & sell at lost, piece 20-30% below valuation…..Spore is totally not competitive now, who will come to pay so much 7 there are tons of places to go with much lower cost & much higher standard of living……same to STI, who will buy?? only our govt buy themselves…..;););)
S&P500 AT 800 BY YEAR END WITH BANKS AND APPLE THE WORST PERFORMERS
April 23rd, 2012
It’s 1936 All Over Again – The Obama 2012 campaign is channeling the ghost of Franklin D. Roosevelt in the Depression.
April 23rd, 2012
IMF Tells US to Sort Out Debt, Quickly
April 23rd, 2012
US & Dow are the most fake & fraud market in the world today.....they try so hard to push up market, try to tell the world, nothing has happened....no debt, no unemployment, everybody is happy & no issues.....but they can't change the reality, they can only fake data, fake market....this useless beast....
US itself in big trouble, whether is debt, deficit, unemployment, property, retirement, poverty, social problems.....they can fake whatever but if whole world is crashing down in Europe, china, Japan....see how are they going to tell the world, they worth so much, in actual fact they worth much much less...collapse....
a coward fake & fraud, a chow ah qua act, real shameful to US & americans....no need to look up on american, spit on them really...tell them they are a shame although their govt & FED did it, but they are responsible...
global picture is real ugly now, they can live in denial or lies or....but reality will swallow them all 1 fine day....situation is real bad, print & print but no growth, money like stolen & lost, debt become super huge....nobody will trust them & anyone anymore due to they don't care about their problem.....no need to wait long, just few months down the road, all will explode....last night DAX down 3% is just a beginning...more to come....Dax down >10% now, Dow only 2-3% & refuse to go down, same to STI, let see how long can they hold....all the rubbish rotten apple Iphone, junk.....
ah cow still so quiet & sitting on his problem....spore property is death, same as Dow, manipulated & trade among themselves....foreigners are leaving, borrowing is super high, only fools buy now, it's not sustainable, those bought in last 1-2 yrs, can’t sell now as no buyers, unless they willing to cut lost & sell at lost, piece 20-30% below valuation…..Spore is totally not competitive now, who will come to pay so much 7 there are tons of places to go with much lower cost & much higher standard of living……same to STI, who will buy?? only our govt buy themselves…..;););)
hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhaha........................I should laugh myself to the bank then as I jsut sold above valuation (as I told you last week).....but ya....its just my self-claim...for now...but let the URA update their infor first before you say that.
Europe Slumps To Three-Month Lows As Spain Nears 2009 Lows
04/23/2012
CITI: 2 Big Things Could Go Wrong In The Next 11 Days
April 23rd, 2012
The perfect ‘reality-check’ storm hit Europe
April 23rd, 2012
sure...the perfect storm for Europe is here, also to global unless those who just want to fake & support for whatever reasons....
almost all Europe are bankrupt now...they will need more $$, but who will give to these fools??....let them fight their own life....
all euurope market are crashing down....shortist sure has upper hands now...more advantages as reality is really that bad....those living in denial will be crashed hard eventually.....
fake market like Dow & STI normally has no volume, volatility & death.....asia market only starts at 9.30am when HSI starts, all, currency,commodity, future stock index alive after 9.30am....same to spore property, a fake market, a death one, will crash down much worse when hard truth reveal.....;););)
hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhaha........................I should laugh myself to the bank then as I jsut sold above valuation (as I told you last week).....but ya....its just my self-claim...for now...but let the URA update their infor first before you say that.
moron laughing....
as I said, said what you like, self-claimed whatever in cyber....
real moron....;);););)
North Korea threatens ‘nationwide sacred war’ to wipe out S. Korea
April 23rd, 201
North Korean military warns of “special actions” soon
April 23rd, 2012
NKorean army vows to turn Seoul to ashes
April 23rd, 2012
korea penisula....south china sea....middle east....war...sure fight just a matter of time....
Europe in fire....stock, property all crash, no growth, no money & bankrupt.....
global change govt...all previous agreement all not valid, stop printing, reversed all policies....
inflation everywhere but pay cut & high unemployment....austerities, no money, barter trade & commit suicide....
currency war...cds rate...yield...taxes...fight & conflict will be lose-lose in near future... ;););)
Please stick to your original predicitions unless you yourself have gone into denial and don't believe in them anymore.....
The facts are here:
Posted on 30 Oct 2011 (post #31)
Posted in Mar 2012 (Post #9590)
Basic has started this thread in Oct 2011 with the heading that property price is coming down fast.
His earlier post on 30 Oct 2011 stated that prices will fall 10% to 20% from 1 to 2 mths before Oct 11. Index as at end 3Q 2011 was 205.7
Index as at end 4Q was 206.2. Index for 1Q 2012 was 206
His FIRST prediction of 10% to 20% down NOW (i.e. Oct/Nov 2011) is already WRONG Hence he HASFAILED for first prediction.
He obviously doesn’t practice what he preaches to face the hard truth to admit FAILURE because in his most recent post starting from 3 weeks ago in Mar 2012 to now, he no longer mentions the first prediction and has in fact changed his second prediction to >50% in 2 to 3 yrs time.
I only operate on facts. Name calling/taunting and flood posting of news will not change the current grading of this thread unless evidence of statistics from official sources supporting his assertations are received and verified.
Based on his original prediction , I am afraid that he has lost all credibility for his FIRST prediction and the current grade for his second prediction is still : FAIL
From the beginning of this "cannot make it" thread.. I have already got use to MISSED THE BOAT EXPERT MR B's twist & turn / divert attention / act blur tactics.. :D
From the beginning of this "cannot make it" thread.. I have already got use to MISSED THE BOAT EXPERT MR B's twist & turn / divert attention / act blur tactics.. :D
all these forever being personal moron.....
moron rat, so let your little rats eat poison so that don't dirty this world.....;);););)
Dont moron here moron there!
The facts are here for all of us to see !
Ripple Bay sold more than 500 units in April with the help Leticia!
Katong Regency is nearly SOLD OUT within April itself (left 4 units I think)
Other launches are also doing very well as people generally expect the market to stay firm or show signs of gradual appreciation from now till 2-3 years down the road.
Instead of 50% crash within the next 2 years, people expecting at least a 5-15% gain in the same period. This sentence is my own opinion. Not facts. haha!
Facts! Facts! Facts!
In April, it is likely we see new sales crossing 2,000 mark again.
Whats more impressive is that resale market is also showing signs of revival in April. We should see more sales in the resale market taking place.
DKSG
PS : The only happy thing for Ah B is ... rental market is showing signs of moderation. Rentals should be down 5% within the next 3 months. Heng Ah! (for Ah B).
White paper: Singapore needs to take in 20,000 – 25,000 new citizens each year
http://temasektimes.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/white-paper-singapore-needs-to-take-in-20000-25000-new-citizens-each-year/
How does this pcs of news help !!!
White paper: Singapore needs to take in 20,000 – 25,000 new citizens each year
http://temasektimes.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/white-paper-singapore-needs-to-take-in-20000-25000-new-citizens-each-year/
How does this pcs of news help !!!
In addition from 2005 to 2010, on average there are 24,284 couples married yearly. They need a love nest.
The median age for groom is 30 and bride is 27.7. Should be financially strong to affort one already. Can be hdb, EC or condo depending on income.
And based on 2011 figures, there are 532k PR in Singapore and 1.39mil non-residence.
No wonder people still buying and buying or renting out.
Ah B are you married? Act fast & buy one before it's too late. Dr Doom say so not me.
tick tock tick tock...... his third prediction.... 50% down before 2015......2.5 years to go.....
Over and above that, even the high end segment which all have been saying is dying dying dead ... is showing signs of life!
Over the weekend, Paterson Suites sold all buy 2 units of the remainder of their stocks.
I think they throw in some discounts, but the results we see if that is latent demand out there in the market.
There are many people waiting on the sidelines with ALOT of cash. No where else to park their money. Inflation is eroding away all the cash balances in the bank account.
My $200K in the bank, lost like $15K already due to inflation over the last 2 years! And many others facing the same problem!
Imagine over the next 5 years, if inflation stays at 5%, you stand to lose 25% of your savings!!! Over 10 years how ? then what Ah B says will be true ... there is be 50% discount ... but this time, it is your CASH balance that is being discounted!
DKSG
Stay Calm and Cool
(PS : Despite your cash, which you used to pay rental, being eroded and eaten up ?!)
Jim Sinclair: Gold is officially replacing the US dollar June 28th.
April 23rd, 2012
CNY vs USD: where next?
April 23rd, 2012
If June 28 is true, that will be very nice.....that means US$ print or not, nobody care anymore.....that day will come if bernanke continues...
of course euro will come 1st.....once euroe & Yen weaken, global rate will start to shoot up....
CNY...sure, we need more reserved currency in the world....more choice, then money in US$ will be lesser, then US$ will down faster....
2012 is a important yr as all these bubble started to burst, it will take some times, but we need to start some where....
Spore property has no buyers now, foreigners are not buying, new CM will also drive local to stop buying 2nd & above unit...
>$120bil of residential mortgage loan in spore, once property bubble burst in coming months to yrs, bank will be super ugly to squeeze debtors to dry dry....foreigners are leaving, super few visa/work permit/employment pass/PR to be issued, many will have to leave in July, many will not have rental to support their loan payment, retrenchment already started, no buyer & hard to sell unless willing to sell 20% below valuaiton, only fools buy now....total population will go down from here instead of up.....
global definitely in crisis trouble, explode anytime, buyer will want to wait for crisis hit to press price down another 15-30% from here....wait patiently sure happen in next few months....
official data already said property down consecutively 3 months....quarterly also down...match perfectly to timing of this thread....
many CCR property already down 20-40%......
OCR new units also down from $1000 to below $750 psf now....many want to sell low price & 10% below valuation also can't sell, those hope to sell high will have to wait 20 yrs later......
If you buy property or stock in last 1-2 yrs, generally, you lose money now...property, no buyers now, only trade among themselves, then claim sale void, can't sell unless you want to cut lost & sell at lost now....
stock...those here will know...many still stuck like crab, holding Cosco above $2...many more Ezra, noble, YZJ, sakari, IndoAgri, capland, wing tai....tons, penny even worse......
stop buying....wait patiently...property will down >50% in 2-3 yrs before 2015.....movong forward, price will drift down every quarter, year...so hold on longer will be cheaper....
many sale today is by insider, trade among developers, that is why we see many unit return after sale....also many sold unit, you will see they advertise to sell again....there is many tricks developers can use to boost the # to make market excited & fever....to xxxx fools & moron....per URA site, there is still 40k unsold new units in the market...but actual # is much higher than this as many from A ro B to C & back to market again...tons of them....that is why ah cow must enforce any unsold units after 1 yr must be taxed super high or confiscate or...so not to waste of resources, lying down there do nothing till recession come, developers bankrupt.....;););)
Dont moron here moron there!
DKSG
PS : The only happy thing for Ah B is ... rental market is showing signs of moderation. Rentals should be down 5% within the next 3 months. Heng Ah! (for Ah B).
stupid moron....want to rent your backside huh....forever tell lies....
you are the most panic rubbish.....;););)
moron laughing....
as I said, said what you like, self-claimed whatever in cyber....
real moron....;);););)
...hahhahhhahahhahhahahah you are acquiring a taste for sour grapes....
speculator
24-04-12, 19:08
White paper: Singapore needs to take in 20,000 – 25,000 new citizens each year
http://temasektimes.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/white-paper-singapore-needs-to-take-in-20000-25000-new-citizens-each-year/
How does this pcs of news help !!!
This is the official paper from The National Population and Talent Division (NPTD). Didn't know the existence of such dept until I did a google search
https://www.nptd.gov.sg/content/dam/nptd/Occasional%20Paper%20-%20Citizen%20Population%20Scenarios.pdf
p.s. Look like basic don't have many friends here. :)
This is the official paper from The National Population and Talent Division (NPTD). Didn't know the existence of such dept until I did a google search
https://www.nptd.gov.sg/content/dam/nptd/Occasional%20Paper%20-%20Citizen%20Population%20Scenarios.pdf
p.s. Look like basic don't have many friends here. :)
Joke aside, seriously this subject needs a separate thread.
Is this the 1st time we have some "official" data on projected immigrant intake ?
This is the official paper from The National Population and Talent Division (NPTD). Didn't know the existence of such dept until I did a google search
https://www.nptd.gov.sg/content/dam/nptd/Occasional%20Paper%20-%20Citizen%20Population%20Scenarios.pdf
p.s. Look like basic don't have many friends here. :)
KING OF ALL FAILURE MR B from condosg only has a good friend who is KING OF ALL FAILURE MR SMARIAN from sghouse.. but just too bad that the "cannot make it" thread created by MR SMARIAN (below) is going to close shop soon.. so MR B invited MR SMARIAN come over to help him to do copy & paste since MR SMARIAN is also a copy & paste expert of bad news over at sghouse..:D
http://www.sg-house.com/classifieds/buy-and-sell-private-apartment-condominium/1243648-price-decreasing-for-singapore-property-280.html
speculator
24-04-12, 20:40
KING OF ALL FAILURE MR B from condosg only has a good friend who is KING OF ALL FAILURE MR SMARIAN from sghouse.. but just too bad that the "cannot make it" thread created by MR SMARIAN (below) is going to close shop soon.. so MR B invited MR SMARIAN come over to help him to do copy & paste since MR SMARIAN is also a copy & paste expert of bad news over at sghouse..:D
http://www.sg-house.com/classifieds/buy-and-sell-private-apartment-condominium/1243648-price-decreasing-for-singapore-property-280.html
that forum is interesting. everyone else in there are selling properties with 1 thread by David Lim (Price decreasing for singapore property !) having the highest hit. :D
more interestingly, the thread started from 2008. People whom I know and had invested in 2009 already had millions of dollars sitting in their account. :D
honestly didn't know about that forum
Astronotus oscellatus
24-04-12, 20:42
Joke aside, seriously this subject needs a separate thread.
Is this the 1st time we have some "official" data on projected immigrant intake ?
25000 to 30000 is a joke!
100000 per year is closer to reality.
This is the official paper from The National Population and Talent Division (NPTD). Didn't know the existence of such dept until I did a google search
https://www.nptd.gov.sg/content/dam/nptd/Occasional%20Paper%20-%20Citizen%20Population%20Scenarios.pdf
p.s. Look like basic don't have many friends here. :)
this is nothing lah....they said it so many time, 20-25k/yr, why said again?? very simple, they are afraid now, very worry people will vote them out in 2016, so they have to speak out loud & clear to all voters, what they are doing....
they are scared....this is good....
what is 20-25k/yr in......500k of foreign workers are going out soon from this july.....more to come....;););)
this is nothing lah....they said it so many time, 20-25k/yr, why said again?? very simple, they are afraid now, very worry people will vote them out in 2016, so they have to speak out loud & clear to all voters, what they are doing....
they are scared....this is good....
what is 20-25k/yr in......500k of foreign workers are going out soon from this july.....more to come....;););)
very nice...if they bring in 25001 citizen in 1 yr...they break their promise, vote them out in 2016....many will do so....;);););)
Scary Math & The Dow Fall Off a Cliff Here – Rick Rule
April 23rd, 2012
“The costs and risks of maintaining the eurozone system are already immense and rising.
April 23rd, 2012
Euro-Region Debt Rises to Highest in Currency’s History
April 23rd, 2012
Tweet From PIMCO’s Bill Gross: Financial markets floating on an ocean of credit. Central banks must continue to write checks or the ship will sink.
April 23rd, 2012
the global ship will sure sink....starting from this yr...it will sink to the bottom in 2015.....so be patient..... ;););)
speculator
24-04-12, 21:25
this is nothing lah....they said it so many time, 20-25k/yr, why said again?? very simple, they are afraid now, very worry people will vote them out in 2016, so they have to speak out loud & clear to all voters, what they are doing....
they are scared....this is good....
what is 20-25k/yr in......500k of foreign workers are going out soon from this july.....more to come....;););)
Must put up numbers and write detailed report to convince the people :D
more to come but why specifically July? July 2012?
Must put up numbers and write detailed report to convince the people :D
more to come but why specifically July? July 2012?
can you read?? 500k out...only 25k in....so what is the nett out of spore??....
more original sporean leave spore now....Australia alone, got 50k of ex-sporean....many govt scholar stay back in US after graduation....much more....
spore is no more a competitive country to be after all these yrs of inflation due to property, food & transportation....only 1.7% of foreigners here are paying taxes...mostly are rubbish uncivilised PRC, indian, bangla, pinnoy....all these already lower down spore srandard, create tons of social problems, death bodies every corner of spore, build all kind of nonsense building, road with tons of defect....wait for recession to come to see the real colour & impact.....
of course original sporean also give up of spore, no more loyalty, no more fight for spore, no one will carry guns to protect spore in danger, sacrify their life if country need them, no way now, many also plan to leave.....they can give away spore to these rubbish incomers....
govt has to pay for all these since they created all these rubbish incomers issue....I can tell you next SARS, no one will sacrify for spore..... ;););)
Leasing demand for S’pore residential properties remains robust
http://lushhomemedia.com/2012/04/25/leasing-demand-for-spore-residential-properties-remains-robust/
Rental going up :scared-1: ... so Prices going up :scared-1: .
this is nothing lah....they said it so many time, 20-25k/yr, why said again?? very simple, they are afraid now, very worry people will vote them out in 2016, so they have to speak out loud & clear to all voters, what they are doing....
they are scared....this is good....
what is 20-25k/yr in......500k of foreign workers are going out soon from this july.....more to come....;););)
Wow. 500k foreign workers leaving in July. Are you serious.:doh:
Did you mistaken the seasonal birds migration in africa and post wrongly here?
Leasing demand for S’pore residential properties remains robust
http://lushhomemedia.com/2012/04/25/leasing-demand-for-spore-residential-properties-remains-robust/
Rental going up :scared-1: ... so Prices going up :scared-1: .
only fools listen to these rubbish analyst with conflict of interest....
he probably has proerty kena stick can't rent out for last 9 months....if you call him to rent for him, he will kneel down to say thank you.....;););)
Wow. 500k foreign workers leaving in July. Are you serious.:doh:
Did you mistaken the seasonal birds migration in africa and post wrongly here?
stupid moron....twist & distort forever....."FROM"....
Frankly speaking, no offence to anyone here, have heard business owners(some big ones) in certain sectors still feel the heat, not everyone is doing welll although u see COE, property prices going up...:o risk is still there..
Quote:
Originally Posted by proper-t
Pl
stupid moron...eat shyt lah....hahaaaa....;););)
Why don't you quote my whole post? Are you afraid of the FACTS that are posted in there?
Why do you keep repeating the same old slurs and rude responses.
Do you not have ANY facts to substantiate your views and counter my points in a logical manner?
Being a principled moron is imho better than being a gutless FAILURE who won't face hard truths and live in constant denial.
My entire post is reproduced here for those who want to know the TRUE facts....
Posted on 30 Oct 2011 (Post#31)
can you read??...
now down 10-20% from 1-2 moths ago....
1-2 yrs later...will be down 40% from 1-2 months ago....
don't shout any number what you like.....
Posted in Mar 2012 (Post #9590)
STI go below 1000 & property price down >50% in 2-3 yrs time before 2015....
Basic has started this thread in Oct 2011 with the heading that property price is coming down fast.
His earlier post on 30 Oct 2011 stated that prices will fall 10% to 20% from 1 to 2 mths before Oct 11. Index as at end 3Q 2011 was 205.7
Index as at end 4Q was 206.2. Index for 1Q 2012 was 206
His FIRST prediction of 10% to 20% down NOW (i.e. Oct/Nov 2011) is already WRONG Hence he HAS FAILED for first prediction.
Originally Posted by basic
human being is insane till this stage....nobody wantfailure but must have gut to face failure....up/down, male/female, hot/cold, boom/burst.....all is nature, why we cannot face hard truth??....
He obviously doesn’t practice what he preaches to face the hard truth to admit FAILURE because in his most recent post starting from 3 weeks ago in Mar 2012 to now, he no longer mentions the first prediction and has in fact changed his second prediction to >50% in 2 to 3 yrs time.
I only operate on facts. Name calling/taunting and flood posting of news will not change the current grading of this thread unless evidence of statistics from official sources supporting his assertations are received and verified.
Based on his original prediction , I am afraid that he has lost all credibility for his FIRST prediction and the current grade for his second prediction is still : FAIL
stupid moron....twist & distort forever....."FROM"....
I see. From July onwards every month got how many foreigner leaving?
10 leaving every month? 100? 1000? or 100k?
And got replacement or not?
Pls lah. Show figures & timelime. From July until when?
Why don't you quote my whole post? Are you afraid of the FACTS that are posted in there?
...
real stupid moron....brainless retarded....
can't read.... property down >50% in next 2-3 yrs before 2015.....;););)
I see. From July onwards every month got how many foreigner leaving?
10 leaving every month? 100? 1000? or 100k?
And got replacement or not?
Pls lah. Show figures & timelime. From July until when?
moron...1 sentence also can't read well, what else....
who are you....real stupid moron fool....;););)
Euro Crisis Deepens: Cost of Spain’s Housing Bust Could Force a Bailout; Spain and Italy borrowing rates soar in latest auctions; D-Day May 6
April 24th, 2012
Guest Post: What Happens When All The Money Vanishes Into Thin Air?
04/24/2012
WSJ: Legendary investor George Soros said today that the troubles Europe faces are as serious as those that caused the Soviet Union to collapse
April 24th, 2012
Europe property market is basically collapse, sameas US, property price down to 10 yrs low now....why print so much $$, still cannot push up property price?? all printed $$ come from thin air, gone with thin air....
same to spore property market, use printed $$ to blow bubble will only end up big crash....
next will be stock market...now all knows Dow is supported by printed $$, bernanke cannot see Dow go down so must support....all the fake data from govt to company result, close eyes you also know all result will be super strong.....such fake accounting is much worse than S chips empty shell when hard truth is out...coming soon, will see in this yr.....
George soros also see acollapse of Europe...at his ages of 80+, no point for him to tell lies because of $$, do something right for the world....
stop buying spore porperty, wait for a few months to see hard truth to unfold 1 by 1...2 more weeks, sarkozy step down, new french president will turn the tide of last few yrs, stop prinitng...more will come with 3 more europe countries election....many more europe countries will sink to the bottom.....;););)
moron...1 sentence also can't read well, what else....
who are you....real stupid moron fool....;););)
Ok I'm a moron according to your moron dictionary. That's why need you to enlighten me.
real stupid moron....brainless retarded....
can't read.... property down >50% in next 2-3 yrs before 2015.....;););)
I have read the entire thread and that's why I have posted the facts below as originally written by YOURSELF....
Are you afraid to quote my entire thread because it exposes how gutless you are to admit the facts?
Why can't you admit that your first prediction is already wrong and that you have changed your second prediction to extend your time frame because there is a high probability that your second prediction may also be wrong as well?
Posted on 30 Oct 2011 (Post#31)
can you read??...
now down 10-20% from 1-2 moths ago....
1-2 yrs later...will be down 40% from 1-2 months ago....
don't shout any number what you like.....
Posted in Mar 2012 (Post #9590)
STI go below 1000 & property price down >50% in 2-3 yrs time before 2015....
Basic has started this thread in Oct 2011 with the heading that property price is coming down fast.
His earlier post on 30 Oct 2011 stated that prices will fall 10% to 20% from 1 to 2 mths before Oct 11. Index as at end 3Q 2011 was 205.7
Index as at end 4Q was 206.2. Index for 1Q 2012 was 206
His FIRST prediction of 10% to 20% down NOW (i.e. Oct/Nov 2011) is already WRONG Hence he HAS FAILED for first prediction.
Originally Posted by basic
human being is insane till this stage....nobody wantfailure but must have gut to face failure....up/down, male/female, hot/cold, boom/burst.....all is nature, why we cannot face hard truth??....
He obviously doesn’t practice what he preaches to face the hard truth to admit FAILURE because in his most recent post starting from 3 weeks ago in Mar 2012 to now, he no longer mentions the first prediction and has in fact changed his second prediction to >50% in 2 to 3 yrs time.
I only operate on facts. Name calling/taunting and flood posting of news will not change the current grading of this thread unless evidence of statistics from official sources supporting his assertations are received and verified.
Based on his original prediction , I am afraid that he has lost all credibility for his FIRST prediction and the current grade for his second prediction is still : FAIL
Bud Conrad: Interest Rates Have Nowhere To Go But Up
April 24th, 2012
Banking On Fear: Why the Policy of Stuffing the Banks With Money Does Not Help the Real Economy
April 24th, 2012
Financial Crisis Mode: Get Ready To Short The Banks, Again
April 24th, 2012
sure...interest rate has no way to go only up from here......once stop printing, rate will shoot up like crazy....printing effect is diminishing now...bernanke shouted 5-10x QE3, but nothing happen so far, why?? hands tied, only use mouth now, let see what he shouted like crazy man tonight....print money will push up inflation, that is why Spore orinted a lot & inflaiton at 5.3% now, inflation will push up interest rate unless you ponzi scheme & print more to push rate down again & go on till stop printing, rate becomes double digits...coming soon....
printing will not help real economy, Japan printed for 20 yrs...property crash down 90%....
same to Europe & Us today....print will not help unemployment, business, economy....only drive inflation....make bubble burst badly...
bank has money but country no economy...if banks mis-managed their money, they will bankrupt & caused all corporaiton to bankrupt...in spore term, all property will crash hard....global property alreday crash except 1 or 2.....if spore banks still loan out mortgage at 1-2% rate, property is definitely not sustainable now, not affordable because printed $$ don't drive salary & income up...once burst, banks will bankrupt all borrowers 1st before they default.....
no mercy, no bailout, we have to face it & be responsible to it....if govt do it, then vote them down & investigate all banks transaction link to politicians...
all the manipulation, fake data & fraud accounting will be expposed.....whatever will be will be.....act accordingly....
ah cow is sleeping now.....hopeless....;););)
phantom_opera
25-04-12, 12:23
Interest rate has no way but up after another N years
SIBF3M:IND 0.37750
N is ????
Interest rate has no way but up after another N years
SIBF3M:IND 0.37750
N is ????
N<1.....
no need to shout by how much....once up, interest rate will start it up cycle & uptrend to >2 digits eventually.....take how long?? not to all of you.....;););)
20%, how to pay back debt?? that is why global down for >20 yrs......
N<1.....
no need to shout by how much....once up, interest rate will start it up cycle & uptrend to >2 digits eventually.....take how long?? not to all of you.....;););)
20%, how to pay back debt?? that is why global down for >20 yrs......
This statement is also nicely framed.
Ah B prediction is : Interest rates will hit > 10% within the next 12 months!
Please correct me if I am wrong. Else next time people say you anyhow talk again.
DKSG
very nice...if they bring in 25001 citizen in 1 yr...they break their promise, vote them out in 2016....many will do so....;);););)
So you mean if I drive 91 km/h on CTE they must jail me ar ?
What country you from ? Communist ?
If they bring in 25001 workers, and our economy improves tremendously, everyone benefit from the improvement, property prices goes up gradually, all citizens get a share of the country's success, I say BRING THEM IN !
DKSG
PS : if they bring 25001 in and we ship AH B out, then just nice net net 25000!
This statement is also nicely framed.
Ah B prediction is : Interest rates will hit > 10% within the next 12 months!
Please correct me if I am wrong. Else next time people say you anyhow talk again.
DKSG
no need to shout by how much....once up, interest rate will start it up cycle & uptrend to >2 digits eventually.....take how long?? not to all of you.....
real moron....can't read...anyhow distort & twisted....
real stupid rubbish fool......;););)
So you mean if I drive 91 km/h on CTE they must jail me ar ?
What country you from ? Communist ?
If they bring in 25001 workers, and our economy improves tremendously, everyone benefit from the improvement, property prices goes up gradually, all citizens get a share of the country's success, I say BRING THEM IN !
DKSG
PS : if they bring 25001 in and we ship AH B out, then just nice net net 25000!
forever stupid moron fool.....
compare # & speed.....real brainless retarded....
forever stupid moron fool.....
compare # & speed.....real brainless retarded....
Our Singapore property market is showing signs of increased interest as the global economic worries are forcing many people to park their monies here.
Locals are also getting more confident about the economy (compared to 6 months ago). It is likely that we see a gradual, steady property market for the next 2 years vs the 50% crash as predicted by Ah B.
Over the weekends, we continue to see strong sales in places like Ripple Bay and others. Resale market is also showing early signs of revival after being dormant for a few quarters.
High end condos developers are sensing the increasing interest and are preparing to launch their new or previously launched condos in the coming weeks.
We have seen strong interest in Paterson Suites and CDL is preparing to launch UP @ Robertson Quay in the coming weeks also.
Hey! Guys! Read my prediction, I am sure I am more accurate that Ah B!
DKSG
Last year, Ah B shouted like the moron he is calling himself, saying that Greece is going to collapse and the world will be thrown into recession. then what happened ?
Then he shouted Spain will collapse shortly after in Nov/Dec last year, and the whole world will collapse, then what happened ?
Say things must look at heave and earth, dont anyhow say.
DKSG
Our Singapore property market is showing signs of increased interest as the global economic worries are forcing many people to park their monies here.
Locals are also getting more confident about the economy (compared to 6 months ago). It is likely that we see a gradual, steady property market for the next 2 years vs the 50% crash as predicted by Ah B.
Over the weekends, we continue to see strong sales in places like Ripple Bay and others. Resale market is also showing early signs of revival after being dormant for a few quarters.
High end condos developers are sensing the increasing interest and are preparing to launch their new or previously launched condos in the coming weeks.
We have seen strong interest in Paterson Suites and CDL is preparing to launch UP @ Robertson Quay in the coming weeks also.
Hey! Guys! Read my prediction, I am sure I am more accurate that Ah B!
DKSG
srupid moron...must be inn panic now cannot unload your rubbish property....I said many times, those bull post in my thread is most desperate & worry rubbish, they are so concern about my posting....
post in bull thread, why try to confiuse & mess up...let people decide & choose what they want to read....just want to take a ride on my big views & viewer thread....real rubbish opportunist, shameless & hopeless rubbish fool.....
not only morom...now become LIAR KING.....try to unload your unwanted baby to fools, naive & newbies.......
go & create your own thread, I will not post a simgle post, not even readthem....don;t waste my time with all your stupid rubbish.....;););)
Last year, Ah B shouted like the moron he is calling himself, saying that Greece is going to collapse and the world will be thrown into recession. then what happened ?
Then he shouted Spain will collapse shortly after in Nov/Dec last year, and the whole world will collapse, then what happened ?
Say things must look at heave and earth, dont anyhow say.
DKSG
stupid moron, go to Greece & Spain & see for yourself....rat in hole, frog in well....real moron....
Greece is not bankrupt now?? you know the seriousness of the problem?? you think this kind of thing happen everyday?? ONCE IN YOUR LIFE TIME.....such a long term thing, it will take time to unfold, you will never see such depression in your life time anymore, not even your son & daughter......
real moron...wasting my time with all your rubbish nonsense....
this most desperate moron rubbish in this thread.....;););)
Steve Keen: “The pain that’s being imposed by these austerity programs … is so extreme that at some point there’s going to be a break in the political compact, We’re replaying the 1930′s once more … “
April 24th, 2012
Ron Paul Versus The FED
April 24th, 2012
WORSE: Greek economy to shrink 5 percent
April 24th, 2012
so Greece GDP will down 5% this yr or more....same to PIIGS....if banks use printed $$ to loan to these countries, sure no way to get back....then baks will be bankrupt....same to Spore porperty market, once plunging down....those mortgage loan money is like loan to Greece, once kena retrench due to global crisis or no more rental income or family problems or sickness or accidents or ......that is it....crash it.....
politically is going to be very unstable, uncertain, this will create more problems, 1930 depression will be back soon....
also hope Ron Paul can crash FED down....whatever FED will be gone in next few yrs.....
spore politically will become unstable in next few yrs...also too many foeigners,now almost 40-45% now, once recession, these rubbish will show theirreal colour...if their basic needs is not meet, then will see death body everywhere in spore everyday....social instability will be the biggest problem of spore moving forward....no coubtry with tons of foreigners end well....all topple...
what you expect spore property price to be?? crash hard by then....no need to wait too long, already started to unfols now...in progress...look globally, anytime it can just collapse....May is coming, most dangerous months of the yr is coming back again....;););)
srupid moron...must be inn panic now cannot unload your rubbish property....I said many times, those bull post in my thread is most desperate & worry rubbish, they are so concern about my posting....
post in bull thread, why try to confiuse & mess up...let people decide & choose what they want to read....just want to take a ride on my big views & viewer thread....real rubbish opportunist, shameless & hopeless rubbish fool.....
not only morom...now become LIAR KING.....try to unload your unwanted baby to fools, naive & newbies.......
go & create your own thread, I will not post a simgle post, not even readthem....don;t waste my time with all your stupid rubbish.....;););)
Intelligent moron, must be panic now that positive news is creeping back into the market and yet have not bought any unit at 40% discount after selling your unit(s)!
I said many times, you can post your things and we can post our facts, your constant posting shows your desperation and concerns about the positive news that is reported each day in the news!
We have to post here to educate readers (though most of them are already smart enough to see through the rubbish cut and paste you did). Let people decide what they want to read!
No one owns any thread in this forum. It is open, democratic and allows everyone to share their views!
Since you always say people make personal comments, we catch you here making personal comments about other people's investment also! Catcha!
We are not as shameless and opportunist as someone here who create a thread to post micro headlines.
We are here to educate, inform, share, and make our property market a healthy sustainable one!
Buy now! Before prices start inching up again like it has been in the last 2 years!
DKSG
Intelligent moron, must be panic now that positive news is creeping back into the market and yet have not bought any unit at 40% discount after selling your unit(s)!
I said many times, you can post your things and we can post our facts, your constant posting shows your desperation and concerns about the positive news that is reported each day in the news!
We have to post here to educate readers (though most of them are already smart enough to see through the rubbish cut and paste you did). Let people decide what they want to read!
No one owns any thread in this forum. It is open, democratic and allows everyone to share their views!
Since you always say people make personal comments, we catch you here making personal comments about other people's investment also! Catcha!
We are not as shameless and opportunist as someone here who create a thread to post micro headlines.
We are here to educate, inform, share, and make our property market a healthy sustainable one!
Buy now! Before prices start inching up again like it has been in the last 2 years!
DKSG
real rubbish panic opportunist....real shameless rubbish.....
he knows if he starts a new thread, nobody will read his rubbish....shyt at other's home, real hopeless moron rubbish.....no shame at all....
such no confidence rubbish, what do you expect from him.....bring you to ho lan, that is all.....;););)
Steve Keen: “The pain that’s being imposed by these austerity programs … is so extreme that at some point there’s going to be a break in the political compact, We’re replaying the 1930′s once more … “
April 24th, 2012
Ron Paul Versus The FED
April 24th, 2012
WORSE: Greek economy to shrink 5 percent
April 24th, 2012
so Greece GDP will down 5% this yr or more....same to PIIGS....if banks use printed $$ to loan to these countries, sure no way to get back....then baks will be bankrupt....same to Spore porperty market, once plunging down....those mortgage loan money is like loan to Greece, once kena retrench due to global crisis or no more rental income or family problems or sickness or accidents or ......that is it....crash it.....
politically is going to be very unstable, uncertain, this will create more problems, 1930 depression will be back soon....
also hope Ron Paul can crash FED down....whatever FED will be gone in next few yrs.....
spore politically will become unstable in next few yrs...also too many foeigners,now almost 40-45% now, once recession, these rubbish will show theirreal colour...if their basic needs is not meet, then will see death body everywhere in spore everyday....social instability will be the biggest problem of spore moving forward....no coubtry with tons of foreigners end well....all topple...
what you expect spore property price to be?? crash hard by then....no need to wait too long, already started to unfols now...in progress...look globally, anytime it can just collapse....May is coming, most dangerous months of the yr is coming back again....;););)
spore printed a lot of $$ in last few yrs....spore is print & anyhow loan out as miortgage loan to drive porperty.....US dare not loan out, all keep inside banks & dare not circulate....that is the difference, that is why our inflation is much higher, 5.3%.....
all these printed $$, no real economy effect, except blow bubble & inflation.....so all pay, salary & income are unchanged, keep driving by borrowing thru' loan.....once burst, property price crash, bubble evaporate, but all the S$130B loan has to pay back....
once property price crash, $$ evaporate.....shortage of $$ in the market & banks...if banks is in trouble, they need liquidity....rate will shoot to sky....
of course govt can print more to supply, thi si commit suicide effect....end up worse than Greece as Spore is only 1 dot....Asean will kill spore instead of helping....
tons of bankrupt in spore by then.....
Last year, Ah B shouted like the moron he is calling himself, saying that Greece is going to collapse and the world will be thrown into recession. then what happened ?
Then he shouted Spain will collapse shortly after in Nov/Dec last year, and the whole world will collapse, then what happened ?
Say things must look at heave and earth, dont anyhow say.
DKSG
I'm not surprise as all along KING OF FAILURE MR B's prediction forever cannot make it lor.. so whatever he predicted, you can read & just forget it!! :D
Singapore interest rates is inching down again !
And rentals are firming up moderately by 1-3%
Rental income is firming, cost of owning properties is inching down!
Now is one of the best times to own a property for rental!
DKSG
PS : The above comments does not mean I have or have not any rental properties. Deliberately dont want to give indication so that people here cannot BBBBB personal.
Bud Conrad: Interest Rates Have Nowhere To Go But Up
April 24th, 2012
Banking On Fear: Why the Policy of Stuffing the Banks With Money Does Not Help the Real Economy
April 24th, 2012
Financial Crisis Mode: Get Ready To Short The Banks, Again
April 24th, 2012
sure...interest rate has no way to go only up from here......once stop printing, rate will shoot up like crazy....printing effect is diminishing now...bernanke shouted 5-10x QE3, but nothing happen so far, why?? hands tied, only use mouth now, let see what he shouted like crazy man tonight....print money will push up inflation, that is why Spore orinted a lot & inflaiton at 5.3% now, inflation will push up interest rate unless you ponzi scheme & print more to push rate down again & go on till stop printing, rate becomes double digits...coming soon....
printing will not help real economy, Japan printed for 20 yrs...property crash down 90%....
same to Europe & Us today....print will not help unemployment, business, economy....only drive inflation....make bubble burst badly...
bank has money but country no economy...if banks mis-managed their money, they will bankrupt & caused all corporaiton to bankrupt...in spore term, all property will crash hard....global property alreday crash except 1 or 2.....if spore banks still loan out mortgage at 1-2% rate, property is definitely not sustainable now, not affordable because printed $$ don't drive salary & income up...once burst, banks will bankrupt all borrowers 1st before they default.....
no mercy, no bailout, we have to face it & be responsible to it....if govt do it, then vote them down & investigate all banks transaction link to politicians...
all the manipulation, fake data & fraud accounting will be expposed.....whatever will be will be.....act accordingly....
ah cow is sleeping now.....hopeless....;););)
go to propertyguru, tons of porperty for rental, many is there for 6-12 months, still can't rent out....cut price also no takers....need to cut deeper not for new comers, but those already here to switch house....
rental is death now....from July, few 100k of FW/FT/foreigners.PR, govt is not going to renew their visa, all will be sending back...rental is giong to crash big way on the way....,..
Interest rate up cycle is going to start very soon, inflation will also push interest rate to higher level unless govt keep printing $$ & go into a commit suicide spiral......tonight if no QE3 from FED, then it will have to wait till next yr....by then global market already crash....market today cannot survive anymore without money printing....money printing only delay & kick can down the road but CAN become super large each time.....all bubble going to burst very very soon.....;););)
I'm not surprise as all along KING OF FAILURE MR B's prediction forever cannot make it lor.. so whatever he predicted, you can read & just forget it!! :D
hahaaaa....all these moron rubbish panic opportunist....real shameless rubbish.....
he knows if he starts a new thread, nobody will read his rubbish....shyt at other's home, real hopeless moron rubbish.....no shame at all....
such no confidence rubbish, what do you expect from him.....bring you to ho lan, that is all....
this moron rat poison his little rat so not to dirty this world....well done, rubbish rat.....;););)
JIM ROGERS: Something Is Wrong In The Stock Market And You Better Be Worried
April 24th, 2012
What Data Can We Trust?
April 24th, 2012
Why the next massive bubble could be far worse than anyone expects
April 24th, 2012
sure....global stock market is going to crash real soon....penny rubbish is playing now, once over, that is it, crash down hard...
no data can be trusted now as all the panic rubbish is pushing hard yet market go no where with all these printed $$ to push....even corporate result data are not trustable, close eye alos know alll major one will beat expectation....why fake?? because the situation is real bad now, once the last straw to crash the market, you will know the hard truth of all these nonsense.....
this coming bubble burst will be the largest in last 120 yrs....combination of property, currency, bonds, debt, derivative.....after that the debt burden will press will economy to can't even crawl in next 20 yrs....
spore porperty will be wiped off....many will bankrupt...all with mortgage loan, get ready to clean your backside....
resale already death, no buyers now...low price one in the market can't sell, high price is a big joke....once come may-sept, stock plunging down, can say bye bye & wait for bank to auction or force sell off....property will down >50% in 2-3 yrs before 2015.....;););)
hahaaaa....all these moron rubbish panic opportunist....real shameless rubbish.....
he knows if he starts a new thread, nobody will read his rubbish....shyt at other's home, real hopeless moron rubbish.....no shame at all....
such no confidence rubbish, what do you expect from him.....bring you to ho lan, that is all....
this moron rat poison his little rat so not to dirty this world....well done, rubbish rat.....;););)
Wah! The above post is really, personal shameless, dirty, rubbish, hopeless and moronic man!
Tonight QE3 ?! Hurray! More money to inflat our property market.
Rental market is holding firm. Where got units in the market for more than 6 months cannot rent ? U talking about ? St Thomas Suites ? 8 Napier ?
These units, people rather hold out for the rental they want than rent out cheaply. And the fact that they are in the market for more than 6 months without reducing the asking rent significantly, means they have holding power.
Just like developers, if they want $1,600 psf, they hold until they get it.
Land in scarce in Singapore. Wait long long, sure can get! Sometime no need wait too long. Just look at Paterson Suites, they hold 2 years, they get it!
Many foreigners holding on to SIngapore properties now treat the properties like crown jewels, refuse to sell, coz they know once sell, buy back will incur 10% ABSD. Thus supply has bee restricted in the last few months. But demand, as you can see from the new foreigners coming in, continue to stay firm, so it wont take long before prices start climbing again.
DKSG
PS : Even if crash, no worries, see what happens after Lehman collapse ? The whole world cry father cry mother, say what Ah B says, next 10 years all die... Guess what happened after that ? within 10 months, we bounce back and cheong again !
Wah! The above post is really, personal shameless, dirty, rubbish, hopeless and moronic man!
Tonight QE3 ?! Hurray! More money to inflat our property market.
Rental market is holding firm. Where got units in the market for more than 6 months cannot rent ? U talking about ? St Thomas Suites ? 8 Napier ?
These units, people rather hold out for the rental they want than rent out cheaply. And the fact that they are in the market for more than 6 months without reducing the asking rent significantly, means they have holding power.
Just like developers, if they want $1,600 psf, they hold until they get it.
Land in scarce in Singapore. Wait long long, sure can get! Sometime no need wait too long. Just look at Paterson Suites, they hold 2 years, they get it!
Many foreigners holding on to SIngapore properties now treat the properties like crown jewels, refuse to sell, coz they know once sell, buy back will incur 10% ABSD. Thus supply has bee restricted in the last few months. But demand, as you can see from the new foreigners coming in, continue to stay firm, so it wont take long before prices start climbing again.
DKSG
PS : Even if crash, no worries, see what happens after Lehman collapse ? The whole world cry father cry mother, say what Ah B says, next 10 years all die... Guess what happened after that ? within 10 months, we bounce back and cheong again !
tonight QE3?? hahaaaa.....stupid moron.....
if no QE3 tonight, oyu are just shouting all the nonsenses here.....
real shameless rubbish to shyt at other's place....
If crash, then hope QE again?? hahaaaaa.....your k1 financial & economy stuff will only lead you to bankruptcy 1 day....this kind of btainless moron just deserve a bankrupt......
cool lah....stupid moron....all the news & headlines i posted are all fact, good thing needs time to unfold....the longer the cycle, the impact will be bigger.....real tsunami only comes once 100 yrs, everyday kind of rubbish, just by luck.....
shameless opportunist.....real thick skin & ba.....;);););)
JIM ROGERS: Something Is Wrong In The Stock Market And You Better Be Worried
April 24th, 2012
What Data Can We Trust?
April 24th, 2012
Why the next massive bubble could be far worse than anyone expects
April 24th, 2012
sure....global stock market is going to crash real soon....penny rubbish is playing now, once over, that is it, crash down hard...
no data can be trusted now as all the panic rubbish is pushing hard yet market go no where with all these printed $$ to push....even corporate result data are not trustable, close eye alos know alll major one will beat expectation....why fake?? because the situation is real bad now, once the last straw to crash the market, you will know the hard truth of all these nonsense.....
this coming bubble burst will be the largest in last 120 yrs....combination of property, currency, bonds, debt, derivative.....after that the debt burden will press will economy to can't even crawl in next 20 yrs....
spore porperty will be wiped off....many will bankrupt...all with mortgage loan, get ready to clean your backside....
resale already death, no buyers now...low price one in the market can't sell, high price is a big joke....once come may-sept, stock plunging down, can say bye bye & wait for bank to auction or force sell off....property will down >50% in 2-3 yrs before 2015.....;););)
This one even easier to track. Ah B says come May-Sept, stock market will plunge ! We can wait 4 weeks and see what happens ...
But then we have been waiting 4 weeks + 4 weeks + 4 weeks + 4 weeks + 4 weeks + 4 weeks already since Oct 2011 !!!
Leasing demand for S’pore residential properties remains robust
http://lushhomemedia.com/2012/04/25/leasing-demand-for-spore-residential-properties-remains-robust/
Rental going up :scared-1: ... so Prices going up :scared-1: .
I already mentioned this liao 6 days b but no one belief me.. onie ST belief n copied my report
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5326/7091260701_a01d242c35_z.jpg
but anw, can agree to disagree haha :)
This one even easier to track. Ah B says come May-Sept, stock market will plunge ! We can wait 4 weeks and see what happens ...
But then we have been waiting 4 weeks + 4 weeks + 4 weeks + 4 weeks + 4 weeks + 4 weeks already since Oct 2011 !!!
stupid moron....sell in May & go away, also don't know....
this blardy brainless LIAR, really wasting my time.....;););)
Steve Keen: “The pain that’s being imposed by these austerity programs … is so extreme that at some point there’s going to be a break in the political compact, We’re replaying the 1930′s once more … “
April 24th, 2012
Ron Paul Versus The FED
April 24th, 2012
WORSE: Greek economy to shrink 5 percent
April 24th, 2012
so Greece GDP will down 5% this yr or more....same to PIIGS....if banks use printed $$ to loan to these countries, sure no way to get back....then baks will be bankrupt....same to Spore porperty market, once plunging down....those mortgage loan money is like loan to Greece, once kena retrench due to global crisis or no more rental income or family problems or sickness or accidents or ......that is it....crash it.....
politically is going to be very unstable, uncertain, this will create more problems, 1930 depression will be back soon....
also hope Ron Paul can crash FED down....whatever FED will be gone in next few yrs.....
spore politically will become unstable in next few yrs...also too many foeigners,now almost 40-45% now, once recession, these rubbish will show theirreal colour...if their basic needs is not meet, then will see death body everywhere in spore everyday....social instability will be the biggest problem of spore moving forward....no coubtry with tons of foreigners end well....all topple...
what you expect spore property price to be?? crash hard by then....no need to wait too long, already started to unfols now...in progress...look globally, anytime it can just collapse....May is coming, most dangerous months of the yr is coming back again....;););)
spore printed a lot of $$ in last few yrs....spore is print & anyhow loan out as miortgage loan to drive porperty.....US dare not loan out, all keep inside banks & dare not circulate....that is the difference, that is why our inflation is much higher, 5.3%.....
all these printed $$, no real economy effect, except blow bubble & inflation.....so all pay, salary & income are unchanged, keep driving by borrowing thru' loan.....once burst, property price crash, bubble evaporate, but all the S$130B loan has to pay back....
once property price crash, $$ evaporate.....shortage of $$ in the market & banks...if banks is in trouble, they need liquidity....rate will shoot to sky....
of course govt can print more to supply, thi si commit suicide effect....end up worse than Greece as Spore is only 1 dot....Asean will kill spore instead of helping....
tons of bankrupt in spore by then.....
Bud Conrad: Interest Rates Have Nowhere To Go But Up
April 24th, 2012
Banking On Fear: Why the Policy of Stuffing the Banks With Money Does Not Help the Real Economy
April 24th, 2012
Financial Crisis Mode: Get Ready To Short The Banks, Again
April 24th, 2012
sure...interest rate has no way to go only up from here......once stop printing, rate will shoot up like crazy....printing effect is diminishing now...bernanke shouted 5-10x QE3, but nothing happen so far, why?? hands tied, only use mouth now, let see what he shouted like crazy man tonight....print money will push up inflation, that is why Spore orinted a lot & inflaiton at 5.3% now, inflation will push up interest rate unless you ponzi scheme & print more to push rate down again & go on till stop printing, rate becomes double digits...coming soon....
printing will not help real economy, Japan printed for 20 yrs...property crash down 90%....
same to Europe & Us today....print will not help unemployment, business, economy....only drive inflation....make bubble burst badly...
bank has money but country no economy...if banks mis-managed their money, they will bankrupt & caused all corporaiton to bankrupt...in spore term, all property will crash hard....global property alreday crash except 1 or 2.....if spore banks still loan out mortgage at 1-2% rate, property is definitely not sustainable now, not affordable because printed $$ don't drive salary & income up...once burst, banks will bankrupt all borrowers 1st before they default.....
no mercy, no bailout, we have to face it & be responsible to it....if govt do it, then vote them down & investigate all banks transaction link to politicians...
all the manipulation, fake data & fraud accounting will be expposed.....whatever will be will be.....act accordingly....
ah cow is sleeping now.....hopeless....;););)
go to propertyguru, tons of porperty for rental, many is there for 6-12 months, still can't rent out....cut price also no takers....need to cut deeper not for new comers, but those already here to switch house....
rental is death now....from July, few 100k of FW/FT/foreigners.PR, govt is not going to renew their visa, all will be sending back...rental is giong to crash big way on the way....,..
Interest rate up cycle is going to start very soon, inflation will also push interest rate to higher level unless govt keep printing $$ & go into a commit suicide spiral......tonight if no QE3 from FED, then it will have to wait till next yr....by then global market already crash....market today cannot survive anymore without money printing....money printing only delay & kick can down the road but CAN become super large each time.....all bubble going to burst very very soon.....;););)
stupid moron....sell in May & go away, also don't know....
this blardy brainless LIAR, really wasting my time.....;););)
This kinda of old folks tale also can repeat like some grand prediction.
If you want to say Sell in May and go away, then say la!
Then whats the Sept doing there ? 9/11 day all come out and play ?
Blardy brainless LIAR, repeat old folks saying like he predicted something.
Really wasting EVERYONE's time.
:doh: :doh: :doh:
JIM ROGERS: Something Is Wrong In The Stock Market And You Better Be Worried
April 24th, 2012
What Data Can We Trust?
April 24th, 2012
Why the next massive bubble could be far worse than anyone expects
April 24th, 2012
sure....global stock market is going to crash real soon....penny rubbish is playing now, once over, that is it, crash down hard...
no data can be trusted now as all the panic rubbish is pushing hard yet market go no where with all these printed $$ to push....even corporate result data are not trustable, close eye alos know alll major one will beat expectation....why fake?? because the situation is real bad now, once the last straw to crash the market, you will know the hard truth of all these nonsense.....
this coming bubble burst will be the largest in last 120 yrs....combination of property, currency, bonds, debt, derivative.....after that the debt burden will press will economy to can't even crawl in next 20 yrs....
spore porperty will be wiped off....many will bankrupt...all with mortgage loan, get ready to clean your backside....
resale already death, no buyers now...low price one in the market can't sell, high price is a big joke....once come may-sept, stock plunging down, can say bye bye & wait for bank to auction or force sell off....property will down >50% in 2-3 yrs before 2015.....;););)
fake data, fraud accounting....to cover up all the hard truth today....that will say they mean good, but lies is lies....NO lies is good, we need to do the right thing not telling good lies.....this is pure rubbish....
when hard truth is out, we will have to pay back 10x more on the lies we tell....in next 2-3 yrs when global economy collapse, you will know all rubbish leaders today, want nonsense they have done....alreday too late aas many already bankcrupt....too bad, only yourself to blame 7 you deserve it as many smart one already get out, this is not by luck....it's so obvious, it;s all right in front of you now...that is what I am posting everyday......;););)
fake data, fraud accounting....to cover up all the hard truth today....that will say they mean good, but lies is lies....NO lies is good, we need to do the right thing not telling good lies.....this is pure rubbish....
when hard truth is out, we will have to pay back 10x more on the lies we tell....in next 2-3 yrs when global economy collapse, you will know all rubbish leaders today, want nonsense they have done....alreday too late aas many already bankcrupt....too bad, only yourself to blame 7 you deserve it as many smart one already get out, this is not by luck....it's so obvious, it;s all right in front of you now...that is what I am posting everyday......;););)
when property crash many will surrender their property and go for rental.
many owner will take this apportunity to raise the rent. Mr.B either way you still die. u dig your own grave. haha...
when property crash many will surrender their property and go for rental.
many owner will take this apportunity to raise the rent. Mr.B either way you still die. u dig your own grave. haha...
stupid moron....when property crash down>50%, how much rental yield you can collect?? 2%? 2.5%?? keep in CPF better, no headache with tenants broken your place, whole unit like shyt....
property crash down....most property belong to banks...they willleve it empty till auction away at low price or any offer.....
real moron.....
when property crash many will surrender their property and go for rental.
many owner will take this apportunity to raise the rent. Mr.B either way you still die. u dig your own grave. haha...
Like that you also can twist ar! Indeed SunRise!
Your persistence of wanting Ah B to die is indeed AmAzIng!
DKSG
Marc Faber The Great Depression All Over Again
April 24th, 2012
IMF encourages Europe’s economic suicide
April 24th, 2012
Professor Hans-Werner Sinn, head of Germany’s IFO Institute: “The euro-system is near explosion”
April 24th, 2012
sure...the depression will be back followed by global hyperdefaltion.....let meet recession & hyperinflation 1st starting from this yr, then rate up, depression later....
whether Europe is suicide or not, it 100% death & down....sooner is better than later...struggling now is worthless, admit it & face it like a man...
explosion is anytime now....let just do it....
Spain, Greece....& PIIGS, most people already bankrupt & no more money, rely on barter trade now, exchange of goods & services.....globally now already in dolemma, only govt try to fake data & fraud accounting, news to tell the people, not that bad lah.....print & push stock without base, company has no businesss & sales, many already retrenchment....most countries already cut spending, cut cost, cut pay, cut.....who got money to buy?? only borrow to buy, if stop loaning & force to collect back debt, all bankrupt....
Spore also the same....all the worms under carpet are crawling out slowly, spend future money, ponzi & rollover....
has some popcorn, watch a super nice show of 100 yrs to play in front of you in next 1-2 yrs....all collapse.....once in your life time...;););)
Ah B is right !!
UK is slipping back in recession !!!
2012 - the World is indeed ending !
But even ending, I still want to die in a nice condo, since no more need to pay the bank back!
DKSG
On the other hand ... fresh from China - Ah B's fav country :
[SHANGHAI] China Vanke Co, the biggest developer by market value listed on a Chinese exchange, posted a 16 per cent increase in first-quarter profit as its mass-market properties defied government curbs.
Net income climbed to 1.4 billion yuan (S$280 million), or 0.13 yuan a share, in the three months ended March 31, from 1.21 billion yuan, or 0.11 yuan, a year earlier, the company said in a filing to the Shenzhen stock exchange, the smaller of China's two bourses yesterday.
Revenue gained 30 per cent to 10.3 billion yuan, it said.
Profit increased as Vanke skirted the government's real estate curbs targeting speculators mainly in major cities such as Beijing and Shanghai, with a strategy that favours homebuyers just as the central bank began pledging to meet loan demand from first-home buyers.
Taken from BT today.
Developer where got all go bankrupt! People reporting robust sales leh!
港進出口雙降
西意拍債 孳息齊飆
五千億地方債須拆彈
法國左右大局 歐債唔爆就奇
HK import & export are down....this should be the case for >95% of countries in the world today....no demand globally also local demand is weak too....
loan rate for PIIGS will continue to shoot up in near future till unsustainable level...which bank will want to loan money to these bankrupt, end up banks themselves bankrupt due to no payback...
china still have tons of internal bad debt, with china poprerty crashing down.....NPL will be super huge....also many developers already bankrupt....
France will change govt...Euro bonds sure default, Italy & Spain are much bigger than Greece, o way to rescue, just default & bankrupt.....
spore economy will be badly affected by global....import, export & local demand will be down tremendously....with foreigners getting out of spore, situation will be much worse, like Dubai, country with too many foreigners will suffer big way in recession, spore is just a small dot, how many more can you hold....tons of funds 7 investment will pull back during recession, tons of jobs will be lost, tons of debt to be settled, force sell is common in down time, let squeeze these weak holders hard, this is free market way of operaiton, norm......;););)
Marc Faber The Great Depression All Over Again
April 24th, 2012
IMF encourages Europe’s economic suicide
April 24th, 2012
Professor Hans-Werner Sinn, head of Germany’s IFO Institute: “The euro-system is near explosion”
April 24th, 2012
sure...the depression will be back followed by global hyperdefaltion.....let meet recession & hyperinflation 1st starting from this yr, then rate up, depression later....
whether Europe is suicide or not, it 100% death & down....sooner is better than later...struggling now is worthless, admit it & face it like a man...
explosion is anytime now....let just do it....
Spain, Greece....& PIIGS, most people already bankrupt & no more money, rely on barter trade now, exchange of goods & services.....globally now already in dolemma, only govt try to fake data & fraud accounting, news to tell the people, not that bad lah.....print & push stock without base, company has no businesss & sales, many already retrenchment....most countries already cut spending, cut cost, cut pay, cut.....who got money to buy?? only borrow to buy, if stop loaning & force to collect back debt, all bankrupt....
Spore also the same....all the worms under carpet are crawling out slowly, spend future money, ponzi & rollover....
has some popcorn, watch a super nice show of 100 yrs to play in front of you in next 1-2 yrs....all collapse.....once in your life time...;););)
spore has no natural resources, once depression comes, most foreigners will leave & run fast, get out of spore.....you will know what I mean in 1-2 yrs time....many already regreted to be sporean now, many original sporean also leaving to s spacious & easy place.....bubble burst, all asset value gone, $130bil of residential mortgage loan to be settled....good luck....coming very soon....;););)
spore has no natural resources, once depression comes, most foreigners will leave & run fast, get out of spore.....you will know what I mean in 1-2 yrs time....many already regreted to be sporean now, many original sporean also leaving to s spacious & easy place.....bubble burst, all asset value gone, $130bil of residential mortgage loan to be settled....good luck....coming very soon....;););)
There was a time when people say that Singapore wont make it,
But we DID!
There was a time when troubles seems too much for us to take,
But we DID!
We build this city Strong and Free !
For traitors like the above who keep cannot wait for the collapse of our country, I think last time they used to put them into rattan container and dump into the sea!
DKSG
A true blooded Singaporean who will not leave the country, will stay and go through thick and thin.
spore has no natural resources, once depression comes, most foreigners will leave & run fast, get out of spore.....you will know what I mean in 1-2 yrs time....many already regreted to be sporean now, many original sporean also leaving to s spacious & easy place.....bubble burst, all asset value gone, $130bil of residential mortgage loan to be settled....good luck....coming very soon....;););)
How many times u got to repeat ur story? Sound like a broken record.
China has lost its edge. It is (sometimes) cheaper to manufacture in the U.S. now.
April 24th, 2012
Forget China… More and more manufacturing jobs are moving to a surprising place
April 24th, 2012
Layoffs, Freezes, Retirements for US Public Sector
April 24th, 2012
sure....western world needs jobs, need work to earn & pay back debt....slowly they will move factory back to their country....
China with 1.3B populaiton, if unemployment is high, will have revolution like 1960s again....that is in their blood...
allthese are coming, may take a while, sink down the world 1st, slowly transition....
US too,mlosing ll kind of jobs, that is why unemploymeny is above 20%....below 25 adult, unemploymet is 54%....but govt no money to hire, so more public jobs are cut instead...teachers, nurse & govt servants are jobless now....why don't print & hire?? easy tight?? id everything can be print...
spore is the same, many jobs will be gone is next 1-2 yrs, huge retrenchment, many excess now, tons of non-productive headcount, productivity are super low now, how to raise pay?? cut pay, cut headcount instead....all the unskill, language, culture problem in work.....what do you expect from these rubbish?? they only worth peanut, you expect them to buy property?? hahaaa....what a joke, spore property is sustaiable, affordable?? this is a bigger joke.....property bubble burst is 100%....wait for global hedge funds to short STI, S$, future &....then property bubble will explode huge way....on the way to unfold soon......;););)
Did you cut and paste from market talk forum?
blackapple
25-04-12, 20:37
Did you cut and paste from market talk forum?
He is alam ... yang ..
There was a time when people say that Singapore wont make it,
But we DID!
There was a time when troubles seems too much for us to take,
But we DID!
We build this city Strong and Free !
For traitors like the above who keep cannot wait for the collapse of our country, I think last time they used to put them into rattan container and dump into the sea!
DKSG
A true blooded Singaporean who will not leave the country, will stay and go through thick and thin.
+1 :cheers4:
But we have to know that MISSED THE BOAT EXPERT MR B is not a S'porean..
+1 :cheers4:
But we have to know that MISSED THE BOAT EXPERT MR B is not a S'porean..
stupid moron rat liar.....forever tell lies, forever being personal 1st.....so let all your little rat have poison already & stop them dirty this world......;););)
UK Economy Double Dips For First Time Since 1970s
April 25th, 2012
Failure: German 30 Year Bund Auction “Unsubscribed”
April 25th, 2012
March Durable Good Implode, Worse Than Lowest Wall Street Forecast And Biggest Drop Since January 2009
04/25/2012
with all these bad news, DAX still want to cheong up 2%....real joking...UK officially in recession now....Germany banod also not enough buyer....
If this happens in Asia or Spore.....STI will have to down to below 1500 now.....but chow ang mo, use printed $$ to support their stock market to prevent lost....I said this many times, these are all fake & from thin air, it will have to go back to thin air 1 fine day.....very sure now, DAX will have to go below 3500 or down 50% from here in next 1-2 yrs......reason said many times, all these support of stock price without business, no order instead support by retrenchment, bad debt, cancel order, even bankrupt.....so all has to pat back wan, just delay to later time & crash harder.....
keep printing & keep supporting also no use because banks will not loan money to all these listed company to prevent themselves from bankrupt.....if banks stop loaning to them, o way these company going to recover....even with order also, no money to build.....
same to spore property.....huge bubble now, same as DAX & Dow now, empty shell, supported by mortgage loan, not by economy or raise in income....once retrenchment comes, or rate hike or no more tenants.....plus personal issues like sick, cancer, accident, family problems, high oil price, war, SARS, tsunami somewhere, Japan or china or......sure crash down fast & furious.....sure can see any 1 of this trigger this yr & lore to come in next 1-2 yrs...all will unfold 1 by 1.....;););)
phantom_opera
25-04-12, 22:32
That's where MR B failed to realize ... bullishness in the face of bad news means this bull is going to cheong soon
Nasdaq Jumps 2%: Stocks Climb After Apple Earnings
After a bargain? The three-bedroom homes in Detroit that could be yours for just $500
April 25th, 2012
hahaaaa....this is for fun but 1 thing you need to know is there is no bottom price for a property, it can go as low as above, US$500 for a 3 bedroom property in US.....FH or fully furnish or size or facing or locaiton or.....
once in recessionor depression, when in squeeze, when liquidity dry up, when bankrupt, when no money....any price, seller has to let go if there is no buyer......so basically, there is no bottom price for a property, depend on situation, time....nothing to do with developers land buying price or building cost or......
check URA transacted price this month & last month......many condo sold below 10-25% of valuation price....that means many seller's price quoted in propertyguru today, ask for 20-30% above last transacted price...OR offer 20-30% below seller's asking price or forget it....so be very careful when you offer price....don't get conned....
many OCR resale sold below $650 psf now.....so stop buying & wait for lower price OR quote at least 10-20% below last transacted price...check URA before make offer.....of course, rubbish bulls will argue face rubbish or low floor or whatever......just take it at average floor & facing, don't listen to those rubbish, go & see for yourself, hold on or offer low....let transacted prce keep moving down, this will force valuation down too....eventually banks will be in panic mode, this will also trigger, just do it.... .;););)
That's where MR B failed to realize ... bullishness in the face of bad news means this bull is going to cheong soon
Nasdaq Jumps 2%: Stocks Climb After Apple Earnings
hahaaaa.....I alreday explained above....why don't you dump all you have, use 4x margin to load 400% on any stock tomorrow.....since apple so powerful, NASDAQ cheong up...whatever......
hahaaaa.... I guarantee you dare not...unless you are fool....this week is very critical, you know.....hahaaaaa.....
apple worth the most US$80 based on today valuation...it will go below this # before 2015.....hahaaaa...exactly NASDAQ in 2001..;););)
check URA transacted price this month & last month......many condo sold below 10-25% of valuation price....that means many seller's price quoted in propertyguru today, ask for 20-30% above last transacted price...OR offer 20-30% below seller's asking price or forget it....so be very careful when you offer price....don't get conned....
really interested to know which projects that are selling 20% below valuation? is it the trend that you referring to or just a few tranactions with maybe some specific reasons...:o
phantom_opera
25-04-12, 22:43
hahaaaa.....I alreday explained above....why don't you dump all you have, use 4x margin to load 400% on any stock tomorrow.....since apple so powerful, NASDAQ cheong up...whatever......
hahaaaa.... I guarantee you dare not...unless you are fool....this week is very critical, you know.....hahaaaaa.....
apple worth the most US$80 based on today valuation...it will go below this # before 2015.....hahaaaa...exactly NASDAQ in 2001..;););)
it is not dare or dare not ... it is basically blind gambling if you do that ... but i am sure you are now more panic than b4 as Katong Regency is SOLD OUT !!!
Also rental is going up a little everywhere :scared-2:
many OCR resale sold below $650 psf now.....so stop buying & wait for lower price OR quote at least 10-20% below last transacted price...check URA before make offer.....of course, rubbish bulls will argue face rubbish or low floor or whatever......just take it at average floor & facing, don't listen to those rubbish, go & see for yourself, hold on or offer low....let transacted prce keep moving down, this will force valuation down too....eventually banks will be in panic mode, this will also trigger, just do it.... .;););)
Nice. Which OCR projects are below $650psf? I'm interested.
FH or 99?
it is not dare or dare not ... it is basically blind gambling if you do that ... but i am sure you are now more panic than b4 as Katong Regency is SOLD OUT !!!
Also rental is going up a little everywhere :scared-2:
hahaaa.....only stupid moron said is gambling because know nut.....moron monkey, go & eat peanut lah....
panic?? hahaaa.....you heart-attack, I still fcuk care.....sold out?? anytime, there will still be 20-40% of units out there for sale anytime....hahaaa......all these human rubbish liar......;););)
time is almost up...sellers better have sense of urgency if not, going to hold the property for next 20 yrs before seeing price back again or kena force sell or auction by banks in 1-2 yrs time......cut now, cut fast or you will be regret for life or waiting to sue to bankrupt......not joking, next yr when you read back all these posting, you will know what I mean now.....
hahaaaaa...ai lai liao lah.....hahaaa...even you sell tomorrow,very likely yo are not going to complete your seal.....when you bankrupt, say thank you to above moron like phanton_opera, this real moron......;););)
hahaaaa.....I alreday explained above....why don't you dump all you have, use 4x margin to load 400% on any stock tomorrow.....since apple so powerful, NASDAQ cheong up...whatever......
hahaaaa.... I guarantee you dare not...unless you are fool....this week is very critical, you know.....hahaaaaa.....
apple worth the most US$80 based on today valuation...it will go below this # before 2015.....hahaaaa...exactly NASDAQ in 2001..;););)
I noticed you like to ask people to take extreme bets one way or the other... did you take extreme bets? sold all your stocks and property in 2009 and now feeling cash rich?
speculator
26-04-12, 00:44
just on the topic of market crashing.
came across this article from The Edge. These people bought at all time high and yet they still make money. some people are just so lucky. :doh:
For me, I'm still listening to Basic's advise. Hoping for my $500 psf Reflections Villa unit. :tongue3:
just on the topic of market crashing.
came across this article from The Edge. These people bought at all time high and yet they still make money. some people are just so lucky. :doh:
For me, I'm still listening to Basic's advise. Hoping for my $500 psf Reflections Villa unit. :tongue3:
...he said the market won't recover for the next 20 years after it crashes......not in his life time...that is why he is so bitter.....
...he said the market won't recover for the next 20 years after it crashes......not in his life time...that is why he is so bitter.....
of course I refer to moron like you, you will not survive in next 2 yrs.... you no need to wait 20 yrs ....can bring your family along.....;););)
I noticed you like to ask people to take extreme bets one way or the other... did you take extreme bets? sold all your stocks and property in 2009 and now feeling cash rich?
sure....I try to take extreme bet of buy bottom sell peak....where as moron like you, shout to buy now is typical of buy peak & sell bottom, force sell by banks always near bottom.....stupid moron liar.....;););)
After a bargain? The three-bedroom homes in Detroit that could be yours for just $500
April 25th, 2012
hahaaaa....this is for fun but 1 thing you need to know is there is no bottom price for a property, it can go as low as above, US$500 for a 3 bedroom property in US.....FH or fully furnish or size or facing or locaiton or.....
once in recession or depression, when in squeeze, when liquidity dry up, when bankrupt, when no money....any price, seller has to let go if there is no buyer......so basically, there is no bottom price for a property, depend on situation, time....nothing to do with developers land buying price or building cost or......
check URA transacted price this month & last month......many condo sold below 10-25% of valuation price....that means many seller's price quoted in propertyguru today, ask for 20-30% above last transacted price...OR offer 20-30% below seller's asking price or forget it....so be very careful when you offer price....don't get conned....
many OCR resale sold below $650 psf now.....so stop buying & wait for lower price OR quote at least 10-20% below last transacted price...check URA before make offer.....of course, rubbish bulls will argue face rubbish or low floor or whatever......just take it at average floor & facing, don't listen to those rubbish, go & see for yourself, hold on or offer low....let transacted prce keep moving down, this will force valuation down too....eventually banks will be in panic mode, this will also trigger, just do it.... .;););)
no more QE for this yr, May is here, time for hedge funds to short down global market big way....Europe in fire, Euro break out?? France & 3 more election will burn the world.....no more QE to rescue, it will just crash if trigger.....so more spore property sellers will dump at lower & lower price to get out before too late.......those hope for high price will hold forever as low price can't even sell, their queue is at last & will not happen in their life time......;););)
Nice. Which OCR projects are below $650psf? I'm interested.
FH or 99?
Hi there. Any news on this one?
of course I refer to moron like you, you will not survive in next 2 yrs.... you no need to wait 20 yrs ....can bring your family along.....;););)
Calling people names is one thing but cursing a person to an early death along with the family is totally uncalled for.......
I understand you may have a lot of pent-up frustration and angst which may have caused you to lose all sense of logic and rationality but this should not be condoned in this OR any other forum regardless.
Although I know it is very diffcult for you but please exercise a small part of your brain and understand the consequences of your statements. Even if you don't believe in karma, somehow all the bad things you say and do in life will come back to haunt you sooner or later (maybe it already has which explains your current state)
I offer your my deepest sympathies as it seems that your fragile state of mind could only have come about due to very tragic circumstance but does insulting and cursing other people offer you any solace? Continuing along this path will only bring you greater sorrow.
Private home resales spring back to life
Startling turnaround in March on the heels of high prices at new home launches - BT
Like I mentioned many many times in this forum, resale transactions are starting to pick up to provide support for the next wave of gradual property price increase!
Every quarter, we have been hitting a so-called all time high, but what happens in the next quarter ? It inches up again.
So, if you are now at borderline between can afford and cannot afford (if price goes up a little bit more), better think carefully and buy before prices starts to inch beyond your means. Never buy anything beyond your means.
The above article states that resale transactions in March is DOUBLE that of Feb and TRIPLE that of January~!
Buying interest is starting to gain momentum! Dont be fooled by people who as you to wait and wait until it crashes by 50%. It WILL NOT happen!
Dont wait anymore!
DKSG
Normally I do advocate staying calm and cool but this time round, this is indeed some sense of panic!
I thought I have a few more months to shop for a resale unit and also secretly hoping that Ah B maybe remotely right and that I can buy something dirt cheap next year.
But this secret hope is diminishing by the day. Day after day we get news of property market stablising, prices inching up, new launches creating record prices.
In April to date, Katong Regency is TOTALLY SOLD OUT!!! Sky Habitat launch at 1600-1800 is accepted by the market, people are buying.
There are a few more near sold out projects (those smaller ones).
DKSG
Next watch could be Five On Shenton !
Normally I do advocate staying calm and cool but this time round, this is indeed some sense of panic!
I thought I have a few more months to shop for a resale unit and also secretly hoping that Ah B maybe remotely right and that I can buy something dirt cheap next year.
But this secret hope is diminishing by the day. Day after day we get news of property market stablising, prices inching up, new launches creating record prices.
In April to date, Katong Regency is TOTALLY SOLD OUT!!! Sky Habitat launch at 1600-1800 is accepted by the market, people are buying.
There are a few more near sold out projects (those smaller ones).
DKSG
Ah B very busy now. Don't want to reply me.
Must be secretly rushing down to visit showrooms already. :D
Normally I do advocate staying calm and cool but this time round, this is indeed some sense of panic!
I thought I have a few more months to shop for a resale unit and also secretly hoping that Ah B maybe remotely right and that I can buy something dirt cheap next year.
But this secret hope is diminishing by the day. Day after day we get news of property market stablising, prices inching up, new launches creating record prices.
In April to date, Katong Regency is TOTALLY SOLD OUT!!! Sky Habitat launch at 1600-1800 is accepted by the market, people are buying.
There are a few more near sold out projects (those smaller ones).
DKSG
Agree. And at the rate inflation is soaring and business costs rising, it takes exceptional discipline to stay on the sidelines.
There is a very strong co-relation of HK property market takes the lead and Sg market follows.
Tomorrow, we shall know whether HK property market will break its all time high. And I think it will.
There is a very strong co-relation of HK property market takes the lead and Sg market follows.
Tomorrow, we shall know whether HK property market will break its all time high. And I think it will.
all these stupid moron fools...I can see they are panic now....start to spam my threads.....hahaaaaa....very nice....
all these desperate & panic moron fools....no confidence huh, all rush here to posy rubbish.....zhai lah, hold tight tight till property down>50%, why suddenly rush here & sing your nonsense rubbish.....easy lah, hahaaaaa.....;);););)
Ah B very busy now. Don't want to reply me.
Must be secretly rushing down to visit showrooms already. :D
who are you?? moron liar, reply you?? your head got shorted.....;);););)
all these stupid moron fools...I can see they are panic now....start to spam my threads.....hahaaaaa....very nice....
all these desperate & panic moron fools....no confidence huh, all rush here to posy rubbish.....zhai lah, hold tight tight till property down>50%, why suddenly rush here & sing your nonsense rubbish.....easy lah, hahaaaaa.....;);););)
Good to see you back here. Which OCR <650psf? In the East or West?
Share share leh.
who are you?? moron liar, reply you?? your head got shorted.....;);););)
Why so violent?
Share share leh.
all these stupid moron fools...I can see they are panic now....start to spam my threads.....hahaaaaa....very nice....
all these desperate & panic moron fools....no confidence huh, all rush here to posy rubbish.....zhai lah, hold tight tight till property down>50%, why suddenly rush here & sing your nonsense rubbish.....easy lah, hahaaaaa.....;);););)
We are sooo worried that naive investors fall into your trap and wait for 2 years for market to crash 50%! Then some may forever (not even 20 years) have to stay in HDB!
We are very zhai here. We go showflats every week, understand the ground, knows who are buying, aware of BOTH the new launches and resale market, familiar with most resale transactions and their psf.
Hence we are in a better position to comment on whether the market is coming down FAST! or not since October 2011. And so far we have been right! That earns us the authority to speak here. To ensure that your rubbish do not lead people the wrong way!
Next to watch is indeed FIVE @ Shenton!
Next to watch will also be commercial properties!
Next to watch is also whether market will crash 50% in 2 years time!
Did you all notice last time Ah B says 2 years time, now he discreetly change it to before 2015 to buy himself more time to lie! LIAR!
DKSG
Normally I do advocate staying calm and cool but this time round, this is indeed some sense of panic!
I thought I have a few more months to shop for a resale unit and also secretly hoping that Ah B maybe remotely right and that I can buy something dirt cheap next year.
But this secret hope is diminishing by the day. Day after day we get news of property market stablising, prices inching up, new launches creating record prices.
In April to date, Katong Regency is TOTALLY SOLD OUT!!! Sky Habitat launch at 1600-1800 is accepted by the market, people are buying.
There are a few more near sold out projects (those smaller ones).
DKSG
this most desperate & panic moron....now lost liao, anyhow shout like crazy....all of you can go to ho lan together with this moron LIAR KING.....
said many times, they are so worry of my posting.....I just copy & paste fact & news....all these will unfold...go & do your own homework in URA trasaction, you can see tons of them are 10-25% below those listing price in propertyguru....go ahead & make your own decision to buy now, go ahead, jobody is topping you....these rubbish moron here try so hatrd to unload but fail, beside personal attacking me here, what else can tey provide?? information? analysis? LIES.....
only try to waste my reading & analysing time.....who bother....ugnore these rubbish morons....;););)
phantom_opera
26-04-12, 09:56
Savills' analysis of URA Realis caveats data shows 1,142 resale deals for private homes (excluding ECs and en bloc sales) done in March - double the 565 caveats for February and more than three times January's volume of 314 transactions. The March number also exceeds December's volume of 776 and November's 981.
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no need me to explain so much read yourself...
last night bernanke try to spread rumour on QE3 again, but nobody trust him anymore, all know he only has mouth now, can't do anything....he said inflation is still low, then QE3 lah, but he stops there.....said it 10x but no action, only fools listen to him anymore....like subprime in 2007, he said no issue at all, then explode, bear stern & lehman bankrupt...now said low rate till end of 2014, I can assure you that no need 12 months, you will see rate shooting up from here.....
global crashing down is very closed now...why take risk now, wait for crash then you can have better value....now alreday down 20-30%, although authority globally try to tell lis that bo tai chi.....but actual fact is all crack now, wait for a wind to blow, all collapse....very soon liao....
spore property down down down.....you can buy, nobody stopping you...contact those morons in this thread, they have plrnty to sell, PM them, they will serve you like king, whether got free xxxx, check with them...hahaaaa....anyway, down>50% in 2-3 yrs before 2015, the perfect storm is approaching just right in front of us, sellers, good luck......:D:D:D:D
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hahaaaa....this is for fun but 1 thing you need to know is there is no bottom price for a property, it can go as low as above, US$500 for a 3 bedroom property in US.....FH or fully furnish or size or facing or locaiton or.....
once in recessionor depression, when in squeeze, when liquidity dry up, when bankrupt, when no money....any price, seller has to let go if there is no buyer......so basically, there is no bottom price for a property, depend on situation, time....nothing to do with developers land buying price or building cost or......
check URA transacted price this month & last month......many condo sold below 10-25% of valuation price....that means many seller's price quoted in propertyguru today, ask for 20-30% above last transacted price...OR offer 20-30% below seller's asking price or forget it....so be very careful when you offer price....don't get conned....
many OCR resale sold below $650 psf now.....so stop buying & wait for lower price OR quote at least 10-20% below last transacted price...check URA before make offer.....of course, rubbish bulls will argue face rubbish or low floor or whatever......just take it at average floor & facing, don't listen to those rubbish, go & see for yourself, hold on or offer low....let transacted prce keep moving down, this will force valuation down too....eventually banks will be in panic mode, this will also trigger, just do it.... .;););)
no more QE for this yr, May is here, time for hedge funds to short down global market big way....Europe in fire, Euro break out?? France & 3 more election will burn the world.....no more QE to rescue, it will just crash if trigger.....so more spore property sellers will dump at lower & lower price to get out before too late.......those hope for high price will hold forever as low price can't even sell, their queue is at last & will not happen in their life time......;););)
this most desperate & panic moron....now lost liao, anyhow shout like crazy....all of you can go to ho lan together with this moron LIAR KING.....
said many times, they are so worry of my posting.....I just copy & paste fact & news....all these will unfold...go & do your own homework in URA trasaction, you can see tons of them are 10-25% below those listing price in propertyguru....go ahead & make your own decision to buy now, go ahead, jobody is topping you....these rubbish moron here try so hatrd to unload but fail, beside personal attacking me here, what else can tey provide?? information? analysis? LIES.....
only try to waste my reading & analysing time.....who bother....ugnore these rubbish morons....;););)
Why you have a fantasy that we are worried about your postings ?
Our principle is : For every bad news you post, we post good news!
Trust your instinct, those who post here are CERTAINLY not worried.
Why worry when resale transactions is DOUBLE of last month and TRIPLE of Jan 2012 ?
Why worry when condos are SOLD OUT (Katong Regency) within days of launch ?
If we worry about remote stories like market crash 50%, we would not have been here long ago. The financial backing we have achieved so far is not based on hearsay.
Ok ok .. before you say we worried or panic again ... one last time ...
We not worried, we not panic. We just want to post, just like you!
Remember my prediction some days/weeks back. Sg property market will achieve stablisation in 2012 with gradual price appreciation of 0.5-1% every quarter or month. If people dont buy now, next year price surely higher than now (generally, dont blame me if you buy too high).
DKSG
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with all these bad news, DAX still want to cheong up 2%....real joking...UK officially in recession now....Germany banod also not enough buyer....
If this happens in Asia or Spore.....STI will have to down to below 1500 now.....but chow ang mo, use printed $$ to support their stock market to prevent lost....I said this many times, these are all fake & from thin air, it will have to go back to thin air 1 fine day.....very sure now, DAX will have to go below 3500 or down 50% from here in next 1-2 yrs......reason said many times, all these support of stock price without business, no order instead support by retrenchment, bad debt, cancel order, even bankrupt.....so all has to pat back wan, just delay to later time & crash harder.....
keep printing & keep supporting also no use because banks will not loan money to all these listed company to prevent themselves from bankrupt.....if banks stop loaning to them, o way these company going to recover....even with order also, no money to build.....
same to spore property.....huge bubble now, same as DAX & Dow now, empty shell, supported by mortgage loan, not by economy or raise in income....once retrenchment comes, or rate hike or no more tenants.....plus personal issues like sick, cancer, accident, family problems, high oil price, war, SARS, tsunami somewhere, Japan or china or......sure crash down fast & furious.....sure can see any 1 of this trigger this yr & lore to come in next 1-2 yrs...all will unfold 1 by 1.....;););)
you can see all these morons in this thread & forum so active now, you know what is going to happen.....these days, i don't have to post much, they post more than me & help me to push up this thread.....
just remember this, all printed $$ is from thin air, not from economy activity...all come from thin air, will disappear in thin air....
so all bubbles now, blow by thin air will burst soon......Dow, DAX, Spore property...all these blow by thin air without based....pay & income no iincrease, no business, no order.....all push up by printed $$...not sustainable, all will burst starting from this yr till all air is out & down even more......but the debt, the mortgage loan borrowed, all has to pay back, no one can walk away with it.....that is when property will down >50%...sure happen, simple logic, philosophically simple & right......;););)
Calling people names is one thing but cursing a person to an early death along with the family is totally uncalled for.......
I understand you may have a lot of pent-up frustration and angst which may have caused you to lose all sense of logic and rationality but this should not be condoned in this OR any other forum regardless.
Although I know it is very diffcult for you but please exercise a small part of your brain and understand the consequences of your statements. Even if you don't believe in karma, somehow all the bad things you say and do in life will come back to haunt you sooner or later (maybe it already has which explains your current state)
I offer your my deepest sympathies as it seems that your fragile state of mind could only have come about due to very tragic circumstance but does insulting and cursing other people offer you any solace? Continuing along this path will only bring you greater sorrow.
Mr.B have you read what our fren wrotes, dare to post why shun to reply?
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no need me to explain so much read yourself...
last night bernanke try to spread rumour on QE3 again, but nobody trust him anymore, all know he only has mouth now, can't do anything....he said inflation is still low, then QE3 lah, but he stops there.....said it 10x but no action, only fools listen to him anymore....like subprime in 2007, he said no issue at all, then explode, bear stern & lehman bankrupt...now said low rate till end of 2014, I can assure you that no need 12 months, you will see rate shooting up from here.....
global crashing down is very closed now...why take risk now, wait for crash then you can have better value....now alreday down 20-30%, although authority globally try to tell lis that bo tai chi.....but actual fact is all crack now, wait for a wind to blow, all collapse....very soon liao....
spore property down down down.....you can buy, nobody stopping you...contact those morons in this thread, they have plrnty to sell, PM them, they will serve you like king, whether got free xxxx, check with them...hahaaaa....anyway, down>50% in 2-3 yrs before 2015, the perfect storm is approaching just right in front of us, sellers, good luck......:D:D:D:D
all these are fact.....but take time to unfold....US start to float US$ since 1970 till now...they sre spending future money 50 yrs ago, why wait till now then bubble burst??? nothing happen overnight, take time....take longer time, the bubble is bigger, the crash will be harder....
so 1 yr from now, when you look back, you will shout, I should sell all my stock & property to any takers at that time....money on hands can buy much more thing by then...if you can buy 1 now, before 2015, you can own 2, similar you can buy today.....stock can easily buy 4-6x more....
OCR isthe worst now...totally over-valued by miles, only moron buy now.....anyway, no hurry, tons of sellers out there, easily 120k-150k units of new & resale out there for you to choose, let them fight themselves, price will go lower & lower.....don't buy, crisis time is here....even can hold, why hold rubbish shyt, gold only appear in few yrs down the road....;););)
Mr.B have you read what our fren wrotes, dare to post why shun to reply?
only morons read & write nonsense....why bother.....
there is a small garden outside sunrise garden with tall tree, you can hang yourself there....;););)
Mr.B have you read what our fren wrotes, dare to post why shun to reply?
you need more than a doctor. a saint to heal your worried mind.
sure....I try to take extreme bet of buy bottom sell peak....where as moron like you, shout to buy now is typical of buy peak & sell bottom, force sell by banks always near bottom.....stupid moron liar.....;););)
Steady lah brudder.... i ask you a question only... never say you take extreme WRONG bets lah..... If you look at my post I also never ask people to buy everything now... i already bought in April2009..... so i am ok either to wait or to buy another one if I can find a value buy....
So did you managed to do it? buy bottom and sell peak?
loan rate for PIIGS will continue to shoot up in near future till unsustainable level...which bank will want to loan money to these bankrupt, end up banks themselves bankrupt due to no payback...
china still have tons of internal bad debt, with china poprerty crashing down.....NPL will be super huge....also many developers already bankrupt....
France will change govt...Euro bonds sure default, Italy & Spain are much bigger than Greece, o way to rescue, just default & bankrupt.....
spore economy will be badly affected by global....import, export & local demand will be down tremendously....with foreigners getting out of spore, situation will be much worse, like Dubai, country with too many foreigners will suffer big way in recession, spore is just a small dot, how many more can you hold....tons of funds 7 investment will pull back during recession, tons of jobs will be lost, tons of debt to be settled, force sell is common in down time, let squeeze these weak holders hard, this is free market way of operaiton, norm......;););)
Euro bond is a bond issued in a currency other than the currency of the country or market in which it is issued. It is not bonds issued by the European peripherial countries, neither are they bonds denominated in Euro dollars (though they can be).
The LTRO program (old news now actually) had taken a chunk of systemic risk off the table in the Euro zone, that was one of the main reasons why markets rallied in the first quarter of this year.
Maybe basic needs to get his basics right before attempting to be an investment guru.
Euro bond is a bond issued in a currency other than the currency of the country or market in which it is issued. It is not bonds issued by the European peripherial countries, neither are they bonds denominated in Euro dollars (though they can be).
The LTRO program (old news now actually) had taken a chunk of systemic risk off the table in the Euro zone, that was one of the main reasons why markets rallied in the first quarter of this year.
Maybe basic needs to get his basics right before attempting to be an investment guru.
there is no Euro bond & you a guru??.....
risk off or risk on.....LTRO is a failure....the more borrowing, more buying of PIIGS bonds will only lead to bank bankrupt.....risk on or off here....
you get your kindergarten pass 1st then point your finger at others.....
whatever.....PIIGS will fail & default.....now is only buying time, don't be conned by the fake rally, just trade short term.....your book will not teach you on this.......;););)
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kick ben bernanke out is just a matter of time...most human rubbish in the world.....really brain with shyt, simple thing also can't see.....
so Holland & Greece t get out of euro zone...the more the better....next month europe countries election will be interesting, if end up few countries leaves Euro will be super nice...highly likely...
Euro down, global down, spore also down...unavoidable....spore down, property will crash, this is for sure....many market already death, whether is stock or property or bonds or....nobody trust all these anymore, that is why so quiet, only govt, developers & traders trade among themselves, making the market themselves....all these manipulaiton, rigging, wasting time, delay time for future bigger burst.....
with printing tons of $$, this is the best they can do now....no up no down, if continue to print to sustain this situation, no volume, no volatility, only range....all will also die.....
if stop printing, die faster but less pain....
HIV is there....spread everywhere now...better die than wasting $$ to sustain till whole world bankrupt...that is why coming very soon.....;););)
all these are fact.....but take time to unfold....US start to float US$ since 1970 till now...they sre spending future money 50 yrs ago, why wait till now then bubble burst??? nothing happen overnight, take time....take longer time, the bubble is bigger, the crash will be harder....
so 1 yr from now, when you look back, you will shout, I should sell all my stock & property to any takers at that time....money on hands can buy much more thing by then...if you can buy 1 now, before 2015, you can own 2, similar you can buy today.....stock can easily buy 4-6x more....
OCR isthe worst now...totally over-valued by miles, only moron buy now.....anyway, no hurry, tons of sellers out there, easily 120k-150k units of new & resale out there for you to choose, let them fight themselves, price will go lower & lower.....don't buy, crisis time is here....even can hold, why hold rubbish shyt, gold only appear in few yrs down the road....;););)
Dont listen to this rubbish! Buy a few years down the road when prices will be ... 10-20% more than now ?
The world is in an inflationary mode, every thing will be inflated away. Look at newspaper, everyday people tell you prices are going up for rent, raw materials, and now they are passing it to consumers.
Dont you prefer to be the landlord increasing the rental to fight inflation ?
Or the cash sitting consumer attacked by prices increases all round (except your salary) ?
Think my friends think!
Dont be fool by some moronic fools calling others moron to wait out for the 50% crash. It will not happen.
DKSG
Dont listen to this rubbish! Buy a few years down the road when prices will be ... 10-20% more than now ?
The world is in an inflationary mode, every thing will be inflated away. Look at newspaper, everyday people tell you prices are going up for rent, raw materials, and now they are passing it to consumers.
Dont you prefer to be the landlord increasing the rental to fight inflation ?
Or the cash sitting consumer attacked by prices increases all round (except your salary) ?
Think my friends think!
Dont be fool by some moronic fools calling others moron to wait out for the 50% crash. It will not happen.
DKSG
hahaaaa....this most panic & desperate moronic dog......kena stuck till face like shyt....eat shyt & whole mouth is shyt.....hahaaaaa.......;););)
Like that you also can twist ar! Indeed SunRise!
Your persistence of wanting Ah B to die is indeed AmAzIng!
DKSG
cannot pity this chow ah kua.
hahaaaa....this most panic & desperate moronic dog......kena stuck till face like shyt....eat shyt & whole mouth is shyt.....hahaaaaa.......;););)
I reckon everyone here will agree 100% that the panicky person here is you Ah B! Why u so personal want to comment on my investment ?
I CONFIRM with everyone here, I am not stuck in anything.
I do my due diligence, I know how much things are worth if people are to sell now. Do you know ? You keep saying there are ALOT ALOT of condos out there cannot find buyers, do you know why ? Thats because seller wants $1,200, buyer only wants to pay $1,150. Thats why!
So at $1,150, I know there are buyers out there waiting like vultures!
The world and individuals in this country is flooded with tons of depreciating cash. Every month your $120,000 sits in the bank, you lose $600 to inflation.
Better stay invested in some inflation protected investment. Ah B holds cash for last 1 year, he just lost $6,000 for every $120,000 he left in the bank.
Do you want to be like Ah B ?
DKSG
I reckon everyone here will agree 100% that the panicky person here is you Ah B! Why u so personal want to comment on my investment ?
I CONFIRM with everyone here, I am not stuck in anything.
I do my due diligence, I know how much things are worth if people are to sell now. Do you know ? You keep saying there are ALOT ALOT of condos out there cannot find buyers, do you know why ? Thats because seller wants $1,200, buyer only wants to pay $1,150. Thats why!
So at $1,150, I know there are buyers out there waiting like vultures!
The world and individuals in this country is flooded with tons of depreciating cash. Every month your $120,000 sits in the bank, you lose $600 to inflation.
Better stay invested in some inflation protected investment. Ah B holds cash for last 1 year, he just lost $6,000 for every $120,000 he left in the bank.
Do you want to be like Ah B ?
DKSG
stupid moronic dog...spamming my thread, now start all personal attack....haaaaa...real shameless dog....
our most despearate & panic moronic dog.....pariah dog eat shyt....wasting time on rubbish......;););)
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hahaaaa....this is for fun but 1 thing you need to know is there is no bottom price for a property, it can go as low as above, US$500 for a 3 bedroom property in US.....FH or fully furnish or size or facing or locaiton or.....
once in recessionor depression, when in squeeze, when liquidity dry up, when bankrupt, when no money....any price, seller has to let go if there is no buyer......so basically, there is no bottom price for a property, depend on situation, time....nothing to do with developers land buying price or building cost or......
check URA transacted price this month & last month......many condo sold below 10-25% of valuation price....that means many seller's price quoted in propertyguru today, ask for 20-30% above last transacted price...OR offer 20-30% below seller's asking price or forget it....so be very careful when you offer price....don't get conned....
many OCR resale sold below $650 psf now.....so stop buying & wait for lower price OR quote at least 10-20% below last transacted price...check URA before make offer.....of course, rubbish bulls will argue face rubbish or low floor or whatever......just take it at average floor & facing, don't listen to those rubbish, go & see for yourself, hold on or offer low....let transacted prce keep moving down, this will force valuation down too....eventually banks will be in panic mode, this will also trigger, just do it.... .;););)
no more QE for this yr, May is here, time for hedge funds to short down global market big way....Europe in fire, Euro break out?? France & 3 more election will burn the world.....no more QE to rescue, it will just crash if trigger.....so more spore property sellers will dump at lower & lower price to get out before too late.......those hope for high price will hold forever as low price can't even sell, their queue is at last & will not happen in their life time......;););)
of course I refer to moron like you, you will not survive in next 2 yrs.... you no need to wait 20 yrs ....can bring your family along.....;););)
Hahaha, I just sold one property, and have reserve of at least 2 yrs salary.....I will try to survive....thanks for your concern....but you are not making any sense...you say will crash by 50% before 2015...and that it won't recover for the next 20 years.....so why bother to buy? Might as well just rent like what you are doing now....
there is no Euro bond & you a guru??.....
risk off or risk on.....LTRO is a failure....the more borrowing, more buying of PIIGS bonds will only lead to bank bankrupt.....risk on or off here....
you get your kindergarten pass 1st then point your finger at others.....
whatever.....PIIGS will fail & default.....now is only buying time, don't be conned by the fake rally, just trade short term.....your book will not teach you on this.......;););)
I'm not saying there's no Euro bond. I am correcting you on your misuse of the jargon. Euro bonds are NOT European soverign or coporate bonds like how you defined it. If you cannot even get the basics right, you expect people to agree with your incoherent statements?
I am not a guru. I am just blatantly telling you that you are not one too and therefore stop trying talk like one and trying to force your views down one's throat.
Hahaha, I just sold one property, and have reserve of at least 2 yrs salary.....I will try to survive....thanks for your concern....but you are not making any sense...you say will crash by 50% before 2015...and that it won't recover for the next 20 years.....so why bother to buy? Might as well just rent like what you are doing now....
Ah Dann, you better listen to Ah B and reserve 20 years of salaries la!
For me, I already reserved 20 years of salaries already. Since I am just an office boy, 20 years salaries is only $600K! Thats not even including the double digits interest rates Ah B is predicting!
The other $600K, I wait until 50% crash then buy some more properties.
DKSG
Thanks! Ah B! Hope my financial planning is in line with your predictions.
stupid moronic dog...spamming my thread, now start all personal attack....haaaaa...real shameless dog....
our most despearate & panic moronic dog.....pariah dog eat shyt....wasting time on rubbish......;););)
Why you keep scolding and cursing people? He told about inflation and what is happening in the market now and you ask him to eat shyt?
Counter his argument with your observation and analysis.....
Why you keep scolding and cursing people? He told about inflation and what is happening in the market now and you ask him to eat shyt?
Counter his argument with your observation and analysis.....
CCR : Dont waste time reasoning to Ah B. Reasoning to Ah B is like watching The Noose and thinking it is NOT real! hahaha!
Prices are creeping up month by month. Many people who thinks like Ah B for the past few quarters have been seeing their ability to purchase a unit dwindling month by month.
Many are now in panic mode like Ah B. One on hand point at the Sky (and curse) and one hand quickly looking for another Habitat!
DKSG
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sure....hundreds of banks will miss TARP, LTRO & many loan this yr & many coming yrs...if 50% of banks globally bankrupt in next 2-3 yrs, no surprised....including spore & some asian bnaks....when bubble burst, many banks will be in coma.....coming...
austerities has already killed many people this yr in Europe, more to come before big riots across Europe, China, US....1 day, all will not be able to take it....western culture is not so tolerable compared to asian...sure burst this yr....
soros is right....this is simple & straight forward....many riots all over the world in next 1-2 yrs, Spore?? so many foreigners here, good luck.....
when riots, property all not worth money....irregardless where it is....why riots?/ already no money, no food to eat, no jobs....we have tons of excess, productivity is so low....anyway, bubble will burst everywhere in the world, spore will be porperty bubble...already on the way, property price already down consecutively 3 months, price war will push price further down south every month, quarter & yrs from now....so stop buying, stay out for now.....;););)
I'm not saying there's no Euro bond. I am correcting you on your misuse of the jargon. Euro bonds are NOT European soverign or coporate bonds like how you defined it. If you cannot even get the basics right, you expect people to agree with your incoherent statements?
I am not a guru. I am just blatantly telling you that you are not one too and therefore stop trying talk like one and trying to force your views down one's throat.
you get your term right 1st....
there is NO Euro bond....all bond in Europe now is based on country....Greece bonds, Italy bond....no such thing as Euro bond...know nut, don't try to be smart like those morons here.....
don't start anything if you are not clear.....I am using most basic layman term here, pick what you like.....don't waste time....
I already said it 50x, PIIGS will default & bankrupt.......;););)
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no need me to explain so much read yourself...
last night bernanke try to spread rumour on QE3 again, but nobody trust him anymore, all know he only has mouth now, can't do anything....he said inflation is still low, then QE3 lah, but he stops there.....said it 10x but no action, only fools listen to him anymore....like subprime in 2007, he said no issue at all, then explode, bear stern & lehman bankrupt...now said low rate till end of 2014, I can assure you that no need 12 months, you will see rate shooting up from here.....
global crashing down is very closed now...why take risk now, wait for crash then you can have better value....now alreday down 20-30%, although authority globally try to tell lis that bo tai chi.....but actual fact is all crack now, wait for a wind to blow, all collapse....very soon liao....
spore property down down down.....you can buy, nobody stopping you...contact those morons in this thread, they have plrnty to sell, PM them, they will serve you like king, whether got free xxxx, check with them...hahaaaa....anyway, down>50% in 2-3 yrs before 2015, the perfect storm is approaching just right in front of us, sellers, good luck......:D:D:D:D
just remember this, all printed $$ is from thin air, not from economy activity...all come from thin air, will disappear in thin air....
so all bubbles now, blow by thin air will burst soon......Dow, DAX, Spore property...all these blow by thin air without based....pay & income no increase, no business, no order.....all push up by printed $$...not sustainable, all will burst starting from this yr till all air is out & down even more......but the debt, the mortgage loan borrowed, S$130bil, all has to pay back, no one can walk away with it.....that is why property will down >50%...sure happen, simple logic, philosophically simple & right......many people in this S$130nil loan will be bankrupted for sure, tons of them innext 1-2 yrs.....;););)
Why you keep scolding and cursing people? He told about inflation and what is happening in the market now and you ask him to eat shyt?
Counter his argument with your observation and analysis.....
Please be understanding!!
MISSED THE BOAT EXPERT MR B cannot tahan pay rental already.. somemore inflation already eat into his saving & property price keep climbing higher & higher.. so very bad mood now
I can only say market siao liaooooo howwwwwwwwwwww. According to my frend Seahill 1rm 100% sold in 1hr, FEO says THANK Q for ur support. 1rm Loft releasing at 8pm stay tune.. tat translates to av of 1 unit sold per 3mins
Please be understanding!!
MISSED THE BOAT EXPERT MR B cannot tahan pay rental already.. somemore inflation already eat into his saving & property price keep climbing higher & higher.. so very bad mood now
hahaaa...moron rats LIAR, so kill all your little rats to clean up for this world, very nice.....go back to your hole to eat shyt now.....;););)
I can only say market siao liaooooo howwwwwwwwwwww. According to my frend Seahill 1rm 100% sold in 1hr, FEO says THANK Q for ur support. 1rm Loft releasing at 8pm stay tune.. tat translates to av of 1 unit sold per 3mins
hahaaaa...all the sellers super desperate these days.....
anyway, con people is free.....;););)
Please be understanding!!
MISSED THE BOAT EXPERT MR B cannot tahan pay rental already.. somemore inflation already eat into his saving & property price keep climbing higher & higher.. so very bad mood now
But Ah B has lobang leh. He can find OCR <650psf but he kept it a secret. I ask them a few times he don't want to tell me. Is it call "Sea on the Hill" or something? Must be damn cheap. Someone just posted 100% for 1 bedder in 1 hr. What a nice number 100.1.1.
Must be fire sales. Ah B did you bought one? Don't pretend hor. Bought already but act blur keep quiet.
Come on. Own up lah. We won't laugh at you one.
speculator
26-04-12, 21:20
In April to date, Katong Regency is TOTALLY SOLD OUT!!! Sky Habitat launch at 1600-1800 is accepted by the market, people are buying.
There are a few more near sold out projects (those smaller ones).
DKSG
and I know that just 2 days ago, the once known as very expensive, ridiculously over priced Thomson Grand is down to only 3 units left. scary market :scared-4:
of course basic will say, let them buy.. :D
speculator
26-04-12, 21:36
In April to date, Katong Regency is TOTALLY SOLD OUT!!! Sky Habitat launch at 1600-1800 is accepted by the market, people are buying.
There are a few more near sold out projects (those smaller ones).
DKSG
and I know that just 2 days ago, the once known as very expensive, ridiculously over priced Thomson Grand is down to only 3 units left. scary market :scared-4:
you get your term right 1st....
there is NO Euro bond....all bond in Europe now is based on country....Greece bonds, Italy bond....no such thing as Euro bond...know nut, don't try to be smart like those morons here.....
don't start anything if you are not clear.....I am using most basic layman term here, pick what you like.....don't waste time....
I already said it 50x, PIIGS will default & bankrupt.......;););)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurobond
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/eurobond.asp
Euro bond is a common term used. Stop disgracing yourself.
and I know that just 2 days ago, the once known as very expensive, ridiculously over priced Thomson Grand is down to only 3 units left. scary market :scared-4:
Serious ar ! Double Confirm ?!
Thomson Grand is nearly SOLD OUT !!!
And guys! Do you agree that once a condo SOLD OUT, the neighbouring condo prices will certainly get a boost in prices! Too bad I dont have anything within the vicinity of Thomson Grand!
Ah B : Your rental house near there ?
DKSG
speculator
26-04-12, 23:33
Article about 30% drop in property prices. Be very Afraid ! :scared-4: :eek: :scared-1:
The dive in property stock prices following the Dec 7 announcement of additional cooling measures is an admission by the market that it believes that the bulk of home buying in recent quarters - if not years - were investment purchases and not driven by owner-occupiers or upgraders as many had claimed for so long.
How else can we interpret the strong reaction and thinly-disguised anger and bitterness in some of the comments in news reports over the recent days? I was actually more taken aback by these comments than the actual measures themselves. However, the party which should be the most aggrieved - the developers - appears to have taken the latest measures far better than others.
The day after the announcement of the additional buyers' stamp duties of between 3 and 10 per cent on certain transactions, the developers came out in droves - 22 in all - to bid for a landed housing site in Chestnut Ave in Upper Bukit Timah. There is no doubt that the buyers of landed homes are less affected by the cooling measures, but the number of bids and the prices were above expectations. Only one developer was successful, which means 21 others had spare cash to spend. Is this a sign of vulnerability?
If indeed the majority of home purchases this year had been underpinned by strong demand fundamentals - shrinking household sizes and rapid population growth that had resulted in severe undersupply as suggested by some analysts four to five months ago - why is there a panic reaction now?
We have been overwhelmed by numerous negative comments, with almost all analysts predicting at least a 10-per-cent drop in home prices in the next year, with some forecasting a plunge as much as 30 per cent. This translates to an average loss of 2.5 per cent per month or 7.5 per cent per quarter.
Such a steep drop in such a short period - if it occurs - indicates a severe loss of market confidence. Maybe we are thinking about the last decline during the global credit crisis that followed the collapse of Lehman Brothers. However, we should not forget that Singapore experienced its deepest post-independence recession then. Are we expecting a recession of the same magnitude next year? The latest economists' forecast is that the Singapore economy will grow 3 per cent next year.
If you had read the report in question, the 30-per-cent drop was predicated on slower population growth and unprecedented home supply, not on slower economic growth or a recession. Some analysts have also drawn comparisons to the 1996 price decline which was precipitated by the introduction of anti-speculation measures in May that year. It is not a fair comparison as the problem then was rampant speculation and it was nipped in the bud. There was no low-interest rate environment.
From the statements accompanying the announcement of the latest measures, it is clear that the authorities see potential destabilising investment flows as the problem. Clearly, they are saying that it is a money issue first before it is a real estate problem. However, most of our market analyses thus far have largely ignored this aspect or dwelt on it only in passing.
Many continue to treat it as a real estate problem, ignore the economic aspect of it and then still expect buyers to be rational in their buying. It will be by pure chance if their calls turn out to be right. I am not saying these analysts are wrong but if you truly understand the complexity of the real problem, it is premature to call a drop in prices at this point in time.
I would also not be unduly worried by some analysts' comments that the heavier stamp duties are making a dent in Singapore's standing as a major property investment destination while giving rivals such as Hong Kong a boost. These comments do not give due recognition to what many respected economists are warning about - the destabilising investment flows into our part of the world.
To continue with a non-interventionist approach in the face of such hot money would be foolhardy - it would be courting disaster. In fact, I would say the current measures have enhanced Singapore's standing as a safe haven and an extremely attractive property investment destination.
Colin Tan is head of research and consultancy at Chesterton Suntec International.
http://www.h88.com.sg/article/Colin+Tan%3A+Cooling+measures+enhance+Singapore's+reputation/
speculator
27-04-12, 00:56
QE1, QE2, LTRO, Asset Purchases
US, Europe and UK. Everybody is printing money.
$ € £
Make the rest of the world pay for their debts at the expense of high inflation.
How can this sustain?
09 Feb 2012
Bank Of England Expands Asset Purchases By 50 Billion
GOD SAVE THE QE:
As expected, the Bank Of England has expanded its Quantitative Easing program by 50 billion pounds.
The total size of purchases will now be 325 billion pounds.
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Pages/news/2012/008.aspx
speculator
27-04-12, 05:53
“The chairman has not ruled it out,” Gross, who runs the world’s biggest bond fund, said during a Bloomberg Television “Street Smart” interview with Trish Regan. “If we see some weak employment reports over the next few months, then QE3 is back on.”
The central bank remains “prepared to do more as needed,” Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said yesterday at a press conference following a meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee in Washington, where policy makers reiterated their pledge to keep borrowing rates at record lows through 2014.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2012-04-26/gross-cuts-treasuries-raises-mortgages-in-fed-buy-bet.html
basic, is this good news or bad?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurobond
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/eurobond.asp
Euro bond is a common term used. Stop disgracing yourself.
no need to argue......
US bond issue by US govt.....
Euro bond issue by Euro group??......but there is NO such bond...
your Euro bond here refer to bond issue in Euro...this is pure rubbish....Spore govt also can issue Euro bond in Euro denomination.....can Spore issue US bond?? Italy bond?.....some more use wikipedia to scared naive....hahaaa....typical of xxxxxxxx.....
real shame of yourself.....argue forever.....yet finger pointing at others.....simple thing also don't know......
Serious ar ! Double Confirm ?!
Thomson Grand is nearly SOLD OUT !!!
And guys! Do you agree that once a condo SOLD OUT, the neighbouring condo prices will certainly get a boost in prices! Too bad I dont have anything within the vicinity of Thomson Grand!
Ah B : Your rental house near there ?
DKSG
only moron like you trust all these #, get excited so easily by all these snake oil salesman.....that is why you will sure bankrupt 1 day....
sold out?? then ask them to tear down their showflat, stop advertise & selling...but you check internet, newspaper, all media, tons of them out there for sale, at least 30-50% still availablr for sales if not 70-90%.....
I told moron like you I am not renting, all morons here keep telling lies here everyday, where is your proof??.....what lies can't tell by allof you....hahaaaa....all the LIAR.....
almost all sold in last few month sell below valuaiton, tons of listing in propertyguru & all media price >10% BELOW valuation....check transacted price, many sold 20-40% below propertyguru price.....tons of listing of resale & rental are tere for 6-12 months still cannot sell.....
a real moronic dog you are.......the most desperate moron in this thread......
I told moron like you I am not renting, all morons here keep telling lies here everyday, where is your proof??.....what lies can't tell by allof you....hahaaaa....all the LIAR.....
You are NOT renting, so you are either staying in your own house or a house of your family? Since you said property prices are going to plummet big time and all home owners will go bankrupt, why are you or your family holding on to such an asset class? You also want to go bankrupt ah?
Otherwise, don't tell me you are really hanging by a tree in changi park? :scared-5:
no need to argue......
US bond issue by US govt.....
Euro bond issue by Euro group??......but there is NO such bond...
your Euro bond here refer to bond issue in Euro...this is pure rubbish....Spore govt also can issue Euro bond in Euro denomination.....can Spore issue US bond?? Italy bond?.....some more use wikipedia to scared naive....hahaaa....typical of xxxxxxxx.....
real shame of yourself.....argue forever.....yet finger pointing at others.....simple thing also don't know......
Live in your own world if you like. Most lunatics do that.
You are NOT renting, so you are either staying in your own house or a house of your family? Since you said property prices are going to plummet big time and all home owners will go bankrupt, why are you or your family holding on to such an asset class? You also want to go bankrupt ah?
Otherwise, don't tell me you are really hanging by a tree in changi park? :scared-5:
stupid moron, now change subject & turn into personal attack....I have informed 100x yet repeat same thing all over everyday.....all these rubbish morons....hahaaaa.....
same to all morons here since day 1....end up everyday personal attack & tell lies about renting without proof.....
nothing new.....all these moron LIARS......;););)
stupid moron, now change subject & turn into personal attack....I have informed 100x yet repeat same thing all over everyday.....all these rubbish morons....hahaaaa.....
same to all morons here since day 1....end up everyday personal attack & tell lies about renting without proof.....
nothing new.....all these moron LIARS......;););)
You've not answer. You didn't rent or you own a house? Or you didn't know how to answer such a basic question?
You've not answer. You didn't rent or you own a house? Or you didn't know how to answer such a basic question?
read thru' this thread....I have answered clearly.....don't show your stupidity again & again....
why everyone so interested in this?? this has nothing to do with global crisis today & it's going to crash spore porperty price down>50% before 2015....
focus in the news, fact, analysis, information....
typical of morons here.....can post 1000th of post just shout same thing everyday over & over.......;););)
You are NOT renting, so you are either staying in your own house or a house of your family? Since you said property prices are going to plummet big time and all home owners will go bankrupt, why are you or your family holding on to such an asset class? You also want to go bankrupt ah?
Otherwise, don't tell me you are really hanging by a tree in changi park? :scared-5:
Mr B need to learn how to float on water. survival courses.
read thru' this thread....I have answered clearly.....don't show your stupidity again & again....
why everyone so interested in this?? this has nothing to do with global crisis today & it's going to crash spore porperty price down>50% before 2015....
focus in the news, fact, analysis, information....
typical of morons here.....can post 1000th of post just shout same thing everyday over & over.......;););)
But we have been posting NEWS, FACTS, ANALYSIS and INFORMATION. Then the moron call us moron!
News are things like : Katong Regency SOLD OUT within 2 weeks of launch. Analysis is this is an indication that our property market has strong demand.
News are things like Sky Habitat launched at record prices with sales clocked in, cementing prices.
Facts are : Lehman brothers collapsed and the whole world then thinks that Singapore will be in protracted recession for next 10 years, what happens ? 10 months later, we bounced back and property prices has been inching up since then.
Facts are : HK Property market are showing signs appreciation with 200 units snapped up within 3 hours of launch!
All your postings are just someone says something stupid like world market going to crash! Everyday there will be someone saying that, and by repeating it here, it is NOT FACTS!
I am soooo glad you mention this News, Facts, Analysis, Information thing.
Calling other people moron is facts or news ? (maybe coz they dont know they are morons, except you ?!)
It is also OUR appeak to you to focus on News, Facts, Analysis, Information, STOP calling people names. Post links to the articles so that people can read the FACTS.
Anyway, another fact is that the Jade condo enbloc is successful! Developer is starting to replenish their landbanks after quarters of muted interest. It is also A FACT that when developers start to replenish their land banks at higher prices, property prices will start to climb again. One or two maybe no impact, when we see more (well that not a fact, just my analysis), we can then be certain property prices is on its way up again after resting for a few quarters!
DKSG
Stay Factual and Objective
But we have been posting NEWS, FACTS, ANALYSIS and INFORMATION. Then the moron call us moron!
News are things like : Katong Regency SOLD OUT within 2 weeks of launch. Analysis is this is an indication that our property market has strong demand.
News are things like Sky Habitat launched at record prices with sales clocked in, cementing prices.
Facts are : Lehman brothers collapsed and the whole world then thinks that Singapore will be in protracted recession for next 10 years, what happens ? 10 months later, we bounced back and property prices has been inching up since then.
Facts are : HK Property market are showing signs appreciation with 200 units snapped up within 3 hours of launch!
All your postings are just someone says something stupid like world market going to crash! Everyday there will be someone saying that, and by repeating it here, it is NOT FACTS!
I am soooo glad you mention this News, Facts, Analysis, Information thing.
Calling other people moron is facts or news ? (maybe coz they dont know they are morons, except you ?!)
It is also OUR appeak to you to focus on News, Facts, Analysis, Information, STOP calling people names. Post links to the articles so that people can read the FACTS.
Anyway, another fact is that the Jade condo enbloc is successful! Developer is starting to replenish their landbanks after quarters of muted interest. It is also A FACT that when developers start to replenish their land banks at higher prices, property prices will start to climb again. One or two maybe no impact, when we see more (well that not a fact, just my analysis), we can then be certain property prices is on its way up again after resting for a few quarters!
DKSG
Stay Factual and Objective
same thing repeat 10x, 100x, is not moron is what??....same personal attack, keep saying again & again, not moron is what??....
have I started a single attack in my few thousands post?? I am defending myself all the way till today....
read your own post, started more personal thing or more news??....
I try to ignore many times & try to continue to post what I like, but all morons, same shyt come back forever....
you are just panic & desperate....shouting loud with your nonsense.....property will still down >50% in 2-3 yrs before 2015.....many CCr alreday down 20-40% compared t last yr price....many more to come, OCR will down even more eventually.....;););)
But Ah B has lobang leh. He can find OCR <650psf but he kept it a secret. I ask them a few times he don't want to tell me. Is it call "Sea on the Hill" or something? Must be damn cheap. Someone just posted 100% for 1 bedder in 1 hr. What a nice number 100.1.1.
Must be fire sales. Ah B did you bought one? Don't pretend hor. Bought already but act blur keep quiet.
Come on. Own up lah. We won't laugh at you one.
Ah B, how is it? Got good news to tell us or not?
You bought 1 or 2 units?
same thing repeat 10x, 100x, is not moron is what??....same personal attack, keep saying again & again, not moron is what??....
have I started a single attack in my few thousands post?? I am defending myself all the way till today....
read your own post, started more personal thing or more news??....
I try to ignore many times & try to continue to post what I like, but all morons, same shyt come back forever....
you are just panic & desperate....shouting loud with your nonsense.....property will still down >50% in 2-3 yrs before 2015.....many CCr alreday down 20-40% compared t last yr price....many more to come, OCR will down even more eventually.....;););)
Many CCR already seen prices increase since last year! I cannot shout this kinda 40% rubbish shamelessly like you.
Which CCR down 40% ? Tell us la!
I can tell you which CCR prices has gone up :
Savannah Condopark : Last year April average is 730 psf. This year March average is 850 psf
Blue Horizon : Last year April av 850 psf. This year March av 950 psf.
I am go on and on, but then I cannot insult your intelligence to check out the URA website.
Down 20-40% ? I think thats your intelligence and morale since 30 October 2011 ba!
The above are all facts!
DKSG
The Factual Property Guru!
Many CCR already seen prices increase since last year! I cannot shout this kinda 40% rubbish shamelessly like you.
Which CCR down 40% ? Tell us la!
I can tell you which CCR prices has gone up :
Savannah Condopark : Last year April average is 730 psf. This year March average is 850 psf
Blue Horizon : Last year April av 850 psf. This year March av 950 psf.
I am go on and on, but then I cannot insult your intelligence to check out the URA website.
Down 20-40% ? I think thats your intelligence and morale since 30 October 2011 ba!
The above are all facts!
DKSG
The Factual Property Guru!
the sail & many CCR last yr done at $3000+, this yr down to $1600+ to 1800+....this is not down 20-40% is what??.....
many more....
I don't waste my time in all these transaction, I post more on my news.....
I post less of news recently due to holiday, busy on new projects, replying all you morons postings....will go back to news, information again....
alone deal with all these morons.....don't waste my time...like this pinkie, all argue forever, then turn personal attack.....
all these rubbish moron fools.....;););)
phantom_opera
27-04-12, 09:57
Ah B cannot even differentiate The Sail carpark facing unit vs high floor bayview unit... the psf is heaven and earth apart :confused:
It is ok ... when Ah B gave up and converted to bull, that is the time I will sell off ... very chun timing one :p
S&P DOWNGRADES SPAIN – BLOOMBERG
April 26th, 2012
If Japan Is Broke, How Is It Bailing Out Europe?
April 26th, 2012
Tsunami Alert: Send in the Bond Squad; Wolf Wave; Economic Murder
April 26th, 2012
sure...all PIIGS should all downgrade to junk immediately, may not see the effcet now, but soon will see no one will loan or trade with them....
now all broke try to support bankrupt as they know once they default, they themselves will collapse...whether is Us or china or Japan or....
everyone is in sloweconomic murder, just wait for explosion startong from this yr....
all & all...global economy is on the way to collapse, no way to return instead going deeper each day....wait patiently for the burst & spore property price will crash >50% before 2015.....
just ignore all the fake & fraud data for the time being...wait for crisis hit, all the hard truth will be out...so stay out, come back in 1-2 yrs time, it wil save you from bankruptcy, your whole life saving.....only fools buy now at peak, then force sell in bottom.....the global picture is clear & obvious, spore will not spare & will deop even deeper due to we are to vulnerable to outside world...we down more, up more too...so the down turn is here & alreday started.....;);)
Ah B cannot even differentiate The Sail carpark facing unit vs high floor bayview unit... the psf is heaven and earth apart :confused:
It is ok ... when Ah B gave up and converted to bull, that is the time I will sell off ... very chun timing one :p
moron king, typical of buy peak sell bottom....
so you dump all you have to buy capland or any stock at 400$ margin??....
so you rea not a liar to shout facing carpark to bayview?? tell lies shiok shiok....
so now is up or down or flat for next few yrs?? roti plata man, flip & flop everyday...such moron will only bring you to ho lan.....hahaaaaa......
I will not buy property before 2015....so all of you should buy today....phantom_opera, best reversed indicator for stock & porperty....he will flip like a rat when he sees a major bank default......now shout song song, real shameless rubbish.....;););)
same thing repeat 10x, 100x, is not moron is what??....same personal attack, keep saying again & again, not moron is what??....
have I started a single attack in my few thousands post?? I am defending myself all the way till today....
read your own post, started more personal thing or more news??....
I try to ignore many times & try to continue to post what I like, but all morons, same shyt come back forever....
you are just panic & desperate....shouting loud with your nonsense.....property will still down >50% in 2-3 yrs before 2015.....many CCr alreday down 20-40% compared t last yr price....many more to come, OCR will down even more eventually.....;););)
Keep up your good posting Mr B, really informative indeed :)
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April 26th, 2012
read yourself.....will not explain much..
student loan is in term of US$trillion now....bigger than credit card...
romney in, bernanke out...anyway, FED will be closed in next few yrs...
wait for next week unemployment....job claimed alreday shoot up in last 3 weeks.....bernanke is panic to drive Dow & sink again.....till total collapse...
all these will crash spore property market for sure.....;););)
the sail & many CCR last yr done at $3000+, this yr down to $1600+ to 1800+....this is not down 20-40% is what??.....
many more....
I don't waste my time in all these transaction, I post more on my news.....
I post less of news recently due to holiday, busy on new projects, replying all you morons postings....will go back to news, information again....
alone deal with all these morons.....don't waste my time...like this pinkie, all argue forever, then turn personal attack.....
all these rubbish moron fools.....;););)
I never argue. I just ask you a direct question on if you are not renting then are you staying at your own property and you cannot answer me what. Maybe I have to speak singlish then you understand then tell me lah.
Calm down basic, and if you run out of adjectives and nouns you can call us idiots or retards for I don't give two hoots about your name calling :p :D :p
I never argue. I just ask you a direct question on if you are not renting then are you staying at your own property and you cannot answer me what. Maybe I have to speak singlish then you understand then tell me lah.
Calm down basic, and if you run out of adjectives and nouns you can call us idiots or retards for I don't give two hoots about your name calling :p :D :p
already answered you in #10484....why forever ask?? cannot read??...
I know all of you trying to make me not productive.....wasting time.....hahaaa....all these shameful rubbish morons.....
read thru' this thread....I have answered clearly.....don't show your stupidity again & again....
why everyone so interested in this?? this has nothing to do with global crisis today & it's going to crash spore porperty price down>50% before 2015....
focus in the news, fact, analysis, information....
typical of morons here.....can post 1000th of post just shout same thing everyday over & over.......;););)
Bankrupt Nations Desperate to Save Financial System – Greyerz
April 26th, 2012
this is a nice one.....why are they so desperate?? because they know they are going to bankrupt & running out of time & resources.....
same reasons to all morons here in this thread....why suddenly all so desperate to post in this thread.....
whatever willbe will be....all bankrupt will bankrupt in next 1-2 yrs due to their property speculation or investment or......;););)
Ever wonder why forum admin did not ban him?
You are NOT renting, so you are either staying in your own house or a house of your family? Since you said property prices are going to plummet big time and all home owners will go bankrupt, why are you or your family holding on to such an asset class? You also want to go bankrupt ah?
Otherwise, don't tell me you are really hanging by a tree in changi park? :scared-5:
Ya why you want prices to drop 50-70% when you hold property?
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