Clementiwoods (D5, 99 years leasehold, Frasers Centrepoint)

[icer_sun]

When I am choosing the unit, i went to the construction site and found the same problem as you. So finally i chose a corner unit (inside one) hoping to have better views compared with those units sandwiched. And I think if your is at 3rd level and above, it should be no problem while TOP, after all, this is a 5 storey building...

OMG, just went to see today, the distance between Blk 88 & 86, Blk 90 & 82, Blk 80 & 78 is really really super near! sigh, dun tell me those pple staying at those blk facing each other have to draw thier curtain all day long, if not will have to view their neighbours or let their neighbours view what you are doing all day long btw the way am staying in Blk 80 facing Blk 78.

[icer_sun]

I have checked with the construction worker at the site, being told that they will get everything done by this Dec. So TOP time may be 2 months later?

Found an announcement made by “ China Construction (South Pacific) Development Co Pte Ltd”:

2007-07-19 西海岸公寓项目，业主为星狮集团。项目包括七栋五层公寓楼（240单位）一层地下停车场、游泳池及公用设施。建筑面积：28,087平方米。合同额5，698.25万新元。工期30个月，已于7月19日开工。

So, the TOP should be sometimes in January next year, or even earlier...

[cher]

Any one can guess what is the potential upside for this project?

[xebay11]

OMG, just went to see today, the distance between Blk 88 & 86, Blk 90 & 82, Blk 80 & 78 is really really super near! sigh, dun tell me those pple staying at those blk facing each other have to draw thier curtain all day long, if not will have to view their neighbours or let their neighbours view what you are doing all day long btw the way am staying in Blk 80 facing Blk 78.

That is why I never buy property off the plan.

[jitkiat]

No wonder nowadays corner units is always priced higher.

[cher]

That is why I never buy property off the plan.

If you wait until you can touch, see and feel the unit, prices will have shoot up. Buy based on plan is cheaper.

[xebay11]

If you wait until you can touch, see and feel the unit, prices will have shoot up. Buy based on plan is cheaper.

Not really, these days those first off the plan buyers without holding power actually lose money or just break even with developer price. If 99 LH like Clementiwoods wait a few years and prices may even come down. Go see propertyguru listings for Clementiwoods, the term firesale is used alot there.

[cheerful]

No wonder nowadays corner units is always priced higher.

Depends on which corners lah ... actually even for some corner units can also be v close to one another (think the kitchen side) ..

[cheerful]

That is why I never buy property off the plan.

Actually if study the overall layout of THE GALE .. kinda similar, back-to-back is pretty closeby ... so u can literally smell it if ur neighbour were to cook curry

[cheerful]

Not really, these days those first off the plan buyers without holding power actually lose money or just break even with developer price. If 99 LH like Clementiwoods wait a few years and prices may even come down. Go see propertyguru listings for Clementiwoods, the term firesale is used alot there.

Hi, care to share your view about why price for this one should come down if wait a few years?

[xebay11]

Hi, care to share your view about why price for this one should come down if wait a few years?

It is in the West, which is generally less desirable than the East, it is LH, it is lowrise, it is not near MRT, not to talk down about the development but maybe you should tell me whether you think the price will go up.

[icer_sun]

i think you can compare the rental of neighbourhood Varsity park with those properties in east area with similar sale price and then it's not too late to reach a conclusion. Although it is not next to MRT, it is stone away from NUS, Japanese school, shopping mall, wet market, and the one-north research hub is not far away as well. Good Location does NOT equal to 200m to MRT station.
Finally, to me, low-rise is the FIRST reason why I choose this project... As for LH, I accept it, cos it will be 100 psf higher if it is FH.

It is in the West, which is generally less desirable than the East, it is LH, it is lowrise, it is not near MRT, not to talk down about the development but maybe you should tell me whether you think the price will go up.

[xebay11]

i think you can compare the rental of neighbourhood Varsity park with those properties in east area with similar sale price and then it's not too late to reach a conclusion. Although it is not next to MRT, it is stone away from NUS, Japanese school, shopping mall, wet market, and the one-north research hub is not far away as well. Good Location does NOT equal to 200m to MRT station.
Finally, to me, low-rise is the FIRST reason why I choose this project... As for LH, I accept it, cos it will be 100 psf higher if it is FH.

Well it is personal choice, yes some people do like low rise, if you like your property just live with it.

[cheerful]

It is in the West, which is generally less desirable than the East, it is LH, it is lowrise, it is not near MRT, not to talk down about the development but maybe you should tell me whether you think the price will go up.

Nope, nvr thot it would go up ... but from the recent caveats, it does appear that in the near term, should still be quite steady ... well, at least for my fren who bout thru sub-sale in late 2007, he didn't lose $$ ...

(personally, wont fancy this one though)

[cher]

It is in the West, which is generally less desirable than the East, it is LH, it is lowrise, it is not near MRT, not to talk down about the development but maybe you should tell me whether you think the price will go up.

Who told you lowrise is not desirable? Lowrise and 99LH got better chance of enbloc than FH, highrisk.

[xebay11]

Who told you lowrise is not desirable? Lowrise and 99LH got better chance of enbloc than FH, highrisk.

My dear, does not mean lowrise means easy to enbloc, CW is probably built to the max already, even though it is lowrise, so how to enbloc in future unless plot ratio is revised, ie. allow you to build high rise.

Why is it high risk to enbloc freehold?

[cheerful]

Yah first time hear about risky to enbloc FH ... why huh? Thot no need to top-up lease is betta mah ... which developers like to purposely choose some places to top-up one (unless location is damn gd lah) ...

[cher]

Yah first time hear about risky to enbloc FH ... why huh? Thot no need to top-up lease is betta mah ... which developers like to purposely choose some places to top-up one (unless location is damn gd lah) ...

I didn't say risky to enbloc FH, read carefully. I only say the changes of enbloc for 99LH is higher than FH for obvious reason which I will not go into. So open your eyes big-big and read again.

[cheerful]

I didn't say risky to enbloc FH, read carefully. I only say the changes of enbloc for 99LH is higher than FH for obvious reason which I will not go into. So open your eyes big-big and read again.

Well obviously my eyes not as BIG as urs tt's why asking mah ... anyway not as if ur msg v clear .. need to be so fierce anot? Dun wanna say then dun say lor .. chey ...

[Lucas]

I have checked with the construction worker at the site, being told that they will get everything done by this Dec. So TOP time may be 2 months later?

Hmmm wonder what the construction worker can give you the whole picture They could be just responsible their own area of work in completing the exterior. The interior of each unit would probably need another 1 -2 month? And I heard after every thing completed, BCA need to test and give the cert.... Maybe this part, some professionals can give your input.... It should easily need another 2 months?

[icer_sun]

you sure the interior decoration not done by them?

Hmmm wonder what the construction worker can give you the whole picture They could be just responsible their own area of work in completing the exterior. The interior of each unit would probably need another 1 -2 month? And I heard after every thing completed, BCA need to test and give the cert.... Maybe this part, some professionals can give your input.... It should easily need another 2 months?

[Lucas]

you sure the interior decoration not done by them?

Never been inside... but I guess items like closets, kitchen cabinets, flooring etc should be done by other contractors.

[Lucas]

88 West Coast Road #02-42
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$715
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10 Jul 09
78 West Coast Road #02-08
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The recent studio unit in CW is already pass $9xx psf...

Address
Tenure
PSF
Area Sqft
Price
Contract Date
78 West Coast Road #02-03
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$912
592
$540k
17 Aug 09

[housewife]

2-3 months ago i was directed to a chinese engineer in the office, who said should be ready end of this year or early next year, should be before CNY

[cher]

The recent studio unit in CW is already pass $9xx psf...

Address
Tenure
PSF
Area Sqft
Price
Contract Date
78 West Coast Road #02-03
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$912
592
$540k
17 Aug 09

Comparing to One-North Residence studio of the same size selling at $1200psf, this one looks like a steal

[proud owner]

Comparing to One-North Residence studio of the same size selling at $1200psf, this one looks like a steal

compared to other FH nearby

this one makes the buyer a no brainer

[xebay11]

compared to other FH nearby

this one makes the buyer a no brainer

You are mean.

[cher]

compared to other FH nearby

this one makes the buyer a no brainer

Why no brainer??? Most of other FH nearby (spectrum for e.g) are either near to road junction or no amenities nearby (Balmeg for e.g).

[proud owner]

Why no brainer??? Most of other FH nearby (spectrum for e.g) are either near to road junction or no amenities nearby (Balmeg for e.g).

what amenities are you talking about for clementiwoods ?

arent they HDB amenities ?

so does that mean the HDB nearby should also be 1000 psf ???

all also LH ... many HDB older .. ok lor so HDB there 700 psf lor

[cher]

what amenities are you talking about for clementiwoods ?

arent they HDB amenities ?

so does that mean the HDB nearby should also be 1000 psf ???

all also LH ... many HDB older .. ok lor so HDB there 700 psf lor

HDB is not near lar, you try walking there then tell me. It is a least one to two bus stop away. How can HDB be same price as private? If same price would you still buy HDB???????? Forget about amenities even for rental which FH there is closer to NUS than CW? If you are a NUS student or Prof would you rent one on clementi road side or PP side which is all FH??????? Not to mention one north, Japanese sch etc which one is nearer.