Livia (D18, 99 years Leasehold, CDL)

[gohsoonk]

The distance between adjacent stacks is average for any condos these day. In fact, it is better than some of the suburban condos (not naming them else I get flamed. :P). The thing is that the distance between opposite stacks is pretty ok.

frankly, do u find the units very close to each other....?
it be very warm for those units in the center...

[jitkiat]

50m considered good
25m considered lucky
15m facing MSCP considered affordable
From balcony can shake hand with landed property neighbour considered cosy

Livia: 447192 sqft / 724 units
DBR: 346,700 sqft / 646 units
Casa Merah: 236,000sqft / 556 units
Waterbank: 180,000 sqft / 616 units

[Komo]

One reason why I did not consider Livia is the closeness of the blocks. I think it will also be very noisy for most of the blocks with the clubhouse right in the middle. I believe high floors will not be spared.

[marktkt22]

One reason why I did not consider Livia is the closeness of the blocks. I think it will also be very noisy for most of the blocks with the clubhouse right in the middle. I believe high floors will not be spared.

so it kinda close right...btw, same for oasis at ellias.
I think they squeeze 6 block or so called stack in that land.

btw, I live in ulu punggol HDB before , so I am using HDB block to block distance to gauge. my experiecne when the block are very close, it get very warm and stuffy... the block right in the middle, surrounded by all...that one wil be bad...

dont flame me, just statimg an observation as I drove past that area quiet often

[noblebaby]

from outside it may look very close, but when walk inside then it may not be the case... lets wait for the TOP.

One reason why I did not consider Livia is the closeness of the blocks. I think it will also be very noisy for most of the blocks with the clubhouse right in the middle. I believe high floors will not be spared.

[blackpepperj]

50m considered good
25m considered lucky
15m facing MSCP considered affordable
From balcony can shake hand with landed property neighbour considered cosy

Livia: 447192 sqft / 724 units
DBR: 346,700 sqft / 646 units
Casa Merah: 236,000sqft / 556 units
Waterbank: 180,000 sqft / 616 units

Livia and DBR both have MSCPs. I cannot recall the projects' layouts but we can assume that there will be surface roads leading from entrances to the MSCPs. These take up space so to be fair we have to take these into consideration when analysing the space per unit.

[gohsoonk]

Livia does not have MSCPs. The carpark is underground.

Your assumption is false.

Livia and DBR both have MSCPs. I cannot recall the projects' layouts but we can assume that there will be surface roads leading from entrances to the MSCPs. These take up space so to be fair we have to take these into consideration when analysing the space per unit.

[Komo]

Livia does not have MSCPs. The carpark is underground.

Your assumption is false.

But there is an outlying strip (which seems quite a significant area), which does not help to space out the housing blocks. However basement carpark is good, at least differentiate from HDB.

[acewee]

Nowsadays some HDB also have basement carparks. You just have to go to punggol to have a look. But basement carparks for HDB should be an exception, just like MSCP for condo.

But there is an outlying strip (which seems quite a significant area), which does not help to space out the housing blocks. However basement carpark is good, at least differentiate from HDB.

[gohsoonk]

Are you referring to the border area around the entire development?

But there is an outlying strip (which seems quite a significant area), which does not help to space out the housing blocks. However basement carpark is good, at least differentiate from HDB.

[lele]

so it kinda close right...btw, same for oasis at ellias.
I think they squeeze 6 block or so called stack in that land.

btw, I live in ulu punggol HDB before , so I am using HDB block to block distance to gauge. my experiecne when the block are very close, it get very warm and stuffy... the block right in the middle, surrounded by all...that one wil be bad...

dont flame me, just statimg an observation as I drove past that area quiet often

if you think livia blocks are close, take a MRT trip down to Buangkok and Kovan. See around, perhaps it help you change your mindset.

[Komo]

Are you referring to the border area around the entire development?

If I remembered correctly there is one strip stretching out to the right like an arm to cater for some sports facility and tree house. It's like branching into the neighbouring estate.

[marktkt22]

is livia a FH land on a 99yr lease...??
I saw that land vacant since late 1990s ...it been more than 10 years..

[devilplate]

99LH land..they top it up

[sleek]

Believed its 99LH and had been topped-up back to 99 years.

is livia a FH land on a 99yr lease...??
I saw that land vacant since late 1990s ...it been more than 10 years..

[marktkt22]

Believed its 99LH and had been topped-up back to 99 years.

thanks, sleek and devilplate..

btw, that plot not fully used up. The area around the showflat, nearest to MRT .. that is for another project...right?

[devilplate]

thanks, sleek and devilplate..

btw, that plot not fully used up. The area around the showflat, nearest to MRT .. that is for another project...right?

yes, i tink will be like waterfront w, key and gold...

this one, i believe developer can divide up to 4 projects...btw was told by agts 2nd project will be launched b4 yr end.

[gohsoonk]

That strip is for the playground.

If I remembered correctly there is one strip stretching out to the right like an arm to cater for some sports facility and tree house. It's like branching into the neighbouring estate.

[gohsoonk]

2nd project should be launched in Q3.

There are 5 projects (including Livia) on that plot.

yes, i tink will be like waterfront w, key and gold...

this one, i believe developer can divide up to 4 projects...btw was told by agts 2nd project will be launched b4 yr end.

[blackpepperj]

Livia does not have MSCPs. The carpark is underground.

Your assumption is false.

My bad. My memory is failing me. I remembered looking at the layout and there was this block next to the tennis courts. Thought that was a MSCP. Imho having basement carparks is very important.

[blackpepperj]

That strip is for the playground.

Might be for the better because the noise generated from the playground would not directly affect the residents of Livia. Having said that, that strip of land does seem odd. Does it affect anything from a feng shui perspective?

[noblebaby]

The 4th waterfront project is called Waterfront Isle.

Entire row facing reservoir, will create a very nice scene.

The upcoming DTL-3 station may have a very similar name to this waterfront development as well...

yes, i tink will be like waterfront w, key and gold...

this one, i believe developer can divide up to 4 projects...btw was told by agts 2nd project will be launched b4 yr end.

[gohsoonk]

I agree that it is impt.

My bad. My memory is failing me. I remembered looking at the layout and there was this block next to the tennis courts. Thought that was a MSCP. Imho having basement carparks is very important.

[lele]

Might be for the better because the noise generated from the playground would not directly affect the residents of Livia. Having said that, that strip of land does seem odd. Does it affect anything from a feng shui perspective?

think of it, it may look like a fish, the end (playground) the tail ? 年年有余。。。

[lele]

I agree that it is impt.

remember that quite high percentage of FEO condo projects have lots of Multistorey carparks..

[gohsoonk]

I decline to comment on FEO for obvious reasons...:P

remember that quite high percentage of FEO condo projects have lots of Multistorey carparks..

[noblebaby]

heard Livia already top-out...

I decline to comment on FEO for obvious reasons...:P

[gohsoonk]

heard Livia already top-out...

What is "top-out..."? Are you referring to TOP?

[noblebaby]

top-out means to put the framework for the top story on (a building).

What is "top-out..."? Are you referring to TOP?

[condobuyer101]

anybody knows? quite keen on this one.