View Full Version : Hedges Park (D17, 99 Years Leasehold, Tripartite Developers Pte Ltd)
HardcoreDude
28-03-13, 11:27
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[QUOTE=leftrightcentre]Hmm... It is a little confusing. There are some patio units on #01 yet some on #02. Some stacks only have #07 - some are the same #08 height as #08 is the roof terrace, but there are some stacks ending at #07 height.
those patio units at #01 are only the ones facing the empty, undeveloped land owned by hong leong facing north. they are at the same level as the basement car park, which is also level #01. the backs of the patio units will probably open out to the car park.
Another excellent update, LFC. You never fail to impress! Thanks for all the pics and videos!!! :D
leftrightcentre
09-04-13, 11:47
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/810D5584-2C65-4613-B6A4-831422915732-2340-000001FAD21034B0_zps2eb4c1fa.jpg
From the looks of it only 22 units left. The Feb URA data showed 49 outstanding so 27 units moved in the last 40 days. That is a ~300% increase from the 'typical' months. Think the 1.4k psf launches improved the sales of more sanely priced Hedges. PI and PO I guess would be fully sold if this is true.
adding me... at last landed in this forum, this is great.
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http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/810D5584-2C65-4613-B6A4-831422915732-2340-000001FAD21034B0_zps2eb4c1fa.jpg
From the looks of it only 22 units left. The Feb URA data showed 49 outstanding so 27 units moved in the last 40 days. That is a ~300% increase from the 'typical' months. Think the 1.4k psf launches improved the sales of more sanely priced Hedges. PI and PO I guess would be fully sold if this is true.
clap clap, hopefully this can speed up the project
their speed is abit slow compare to the other projects
Added myself to the list, bought a 3 bedder at hedges park.
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This is great, more Hedges' owners coming forward.
This thread is kind of quiet of late. Any news or development on the project?
you know, i just had a thought :) since hedges, parc olympia and palm isle are all in the vicinity, how about combining shuttle services into one after the condo managements have been established? by combining and having a single shuttle service stopping at the entrances of these condos will allow increased frequency and service hours of the shuttle bus, and possibly going to separate destinations, e.g. tampines central and expo. just gotta divide the cost by 3 and get a bigger bus to cater to more residents. as someone who has stayed in a condo in this region for some time with a private shuttle bus, i know the pain of having the shuttle bus come only once every 40 minutes to 1 hour, and running only till 7:30 pm on weekdays, 1/2 day on saturday and not running at all on sunday. just being creative and hopefully constructive on a lazy saturday :D
leftrightcentre
17-04-13, 14:17
http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/singapore/story/idas-new-code-mandate-fibre-point-every-home-and-space-telco-equipment
From May 1, all new buildings must come with fibre broadband points for every home. Within the home, developers must also lay structured cables in every room for distributing the fibre broadband signals.
The new requirements were listed in the Infocomm Development Authority's (IDA) new buildings code released on Wednesday. This is part of the Government's push to have every building installed with the necessary equipment for mobile and fixed broadband services.
All building owners - new and existing - must also set aside rent-free space in the development for telcos to install mobile equipment including base stations for adequate indoor coverage. A base station transmits and receives signals from users' cellphones within a defined radius.
IDA said it wants to keep its code of practice relevant to consumer needs - particularly amid rising fibre broadband and smartphone usage. Mr Leong Keng Thai, IDA deputy chief executive and director-general for telecoms and post, said that changes in the building code are "will benefit consumers and improve their mobile and broadband experiences".
Anyone have any update on NGNBN for Hedges? That time I asked if Hedges would come NGNBN ready but didn't get anything out of my agent.
Is it the responsibility of the developer to handover the units NGNBN ready or left to the committee after TOP/CSC?
For launched projects but yet to TOP/CSC, are they considered new? Do the developer need to resubmit and have the plans approved by URA to accomodate the NGNBN infrastructure?
Anyone have any update on NGNBN for Hedges? That time I asked if Hedges would come NGNBN ready but didn't get anything out of my agent.
Is it the responsibility of the developer to handover the units NGNBN ready or left to the committee after TOP/CSC?
For launched projects but yet to TOP/CSC, are they considered new? Do the developer need to resubmit and have the plans approved by URA to accomodate the NGNBN infrastructure?
it would be best to ask the developer directly, perhaps through the law firm that manages your loan for hedges park. the agent will not know.
you know, i just had a thought :) since hedges, parc olympia and palm isle are all in the vicinity, how about combining shuttle services into one after the condo managements have been established? by combining and having a single shuttle service stopping at the entrances of these condos will allow increased frequency and service hours of the shuttle bus, and possibly going to separate destinations, e.g. tampines central and expo. just gotta divide the cost by 3 and get a bigger bus to cater to more residents. as someone who has stayed in a condo in this region for some time with a private shuttle bus, i know the pain of having the shuttle bus come only once every 40 minutes to 1 hour, and running only till 7:30 pm on weekdays, 1/2 day on saturday and not running at all on sunday. just being creative and hopefully constructive on a lazy saturday :D
I m PO owner, yours is a great idea...we think hopefully once hedges, po and pi are up , bus 4 will be rerouted into flora drive as well. It is possible since it's a loop service i.e. tampines interchange <-> flora road <-> flora drive <-> changi north industrial park <-> flora road <-> tampines interchange. just a thought.:cutedoggy: :cutedoggy:
I m PO owner, yours is a great idea...we think hopefully once hedges, po and pi are up , bus 4 will be rerouted into flora drive as well. It is possible since it's a loop service i.e. tampines interchange <-> flora road <-> flora drive <-> changi north industrial park <-> flora road <-> tampines interchange. just a thought.:cutedoggy: :cutedoggy:
Glad to know someone from PO is also for the idea :) But this is still early...gotta wait for all the condo management committees to be formed 1 year after TOP before this idea can even be presented, after which the residents will need to vote...
Btw I noticed a structure much like a showflat coming up along Flora Drive next to the Hedges Park showroom. Looks like another development may be coming up? Anyone can confirm?
leftrightcentre
28-04-13, 23:46
Glad to know someone from PO is also for the idea :) But this is still early...gotta wait for all the condo management committees to be formed 1 year after TOP before this idea can even be presented, after which the residents will need to vote...
Btw I noticed a structure much like a showflat coming up along Flora Drive next to the Hedges Park showroom. Looks like another development may be coming up? Anyone can confirm?
Yes, I went to get an update on Sat and saw that they are building what looks like a show room in the larger carpark space for Hedges. On the other side of the "showroom" seems to be clearing for a carpark too. I think they are preparing to launch the last plot of FH land in that area.
leftrightcentre
29-04-13, 00:15
Update for 27 Apr 2013.
Generally I think the progress seems to be going fine although I would have much liked it to be faster. :D
Starting to build #05 for some stacks, but some seems to still building #02.
Video: http://goo.gl/9133J
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Saw that there is a notice for 3 AWOL workers on the Hedges dorm. Hope this is nothing serious. Work conditions do not seem harsh, and pretty leisurely each time I was there. Strikes or any sort of workers dissatisfaction is not good for our project. The construction quality of our home depends on them!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130427/IMG_0327_zps3854af42.jpg
There is also a police notice on snatch thief in the area. Saw this at the corner of Dahlia, intersection of Flora Road and Flora Drive. Hope the general security of the area is good. Snatch thief is not sounding good for the elderly and women folk. Better not have any cases of molestation, burglary or ruckus go on in the area!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130427/IMG_0328_zps506cb92a.jpg
Yes, I went to get an update on Sat and saw that they are building what looks like a show room in the larger carpark space for Hedges. On the other side of the "showroom" seems to be clearing for a carpark too. I think they are preparing to launch the last plot of FH land in that area.
according to http://singaporecondominiumsales.wordpress.com/category/district/district-7/ if scroll down to the location map of Parc Olympia, it's interesting to see that the 'last plot' is in fact split into 3 parcels? I wonder which one is being released? I seem to remember 2 plots are 999 years, while the remaining one is ambiguous cos hong leong was sorting out its tenure with ura.
according to http://singaporecondominiumsales.wordpress.com/category/district/district-7/ if scroll down to the location map of Parc Olympia, it's interesting to see that the 'last plot' is in fact split into 3 parcels? I wonder which one is being released? I seem to remember 2 plots are 999 years, while the remaining one is ambiguous cos hong leong was sorting out its tenure with ura.
indeed, notice there is also a nicely done entrance/exit along Flora Drive into this 'last plot' and a structure what looks like a showroom coming up. Anybody knows what exactly will be launch here?
leftrightcentre
29-04-13, 10:41
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/FloraDriveLandPlots_zps81232e8b.png
Using the land plot from OneMap, I think the new launch is like the long plot along Flora Drive.
To save on cost, TID would probably start working on the new project as Hedges goes towards completion so that they can reuse the Hedges dorm. That plot is also very useful as a staging area for the construction materials, like what they used to do for Gale and currently Hedges.
The last 2 plots where the showroom and plots are probably going to be the most exclusion, considering that plot layouts are such that they are hidden from direct view behind a short "service road", surrounded by other developments. All other plots have long perimeters adjacent to the roads.
leftrightcentre
29-04-13, 11:11
Taken from the landbank of CDL 2012 AR:
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/CDLLandBank_zps753d5c43.png
That size of that long plot probably is the 14k sqm FH plot using rough estimation?
Not sure if the showroom and dorm plots are joint? Both plots when combined probably look like 44k sqm?
Actually I might be wrong on where the showroom is located. It might (more likely) be on the long plot instead. I was told by my agent then that the showroom plot is FH, so they might tear down the showroom and then develop that plot for sale.
The good news picked up from the CDL 2012 AR dated 31 Dec 2012 indicated that Hedges is expected to be completed in 2014! It was approximately 27% completed then. Not sure if the progress is audited, but it serves as a good gauge nonetheless. :)
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/HedgesStatus_zpsd32570e2.png
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/FloraDriveLandPlots_zps81232e8b.png
Using the land plot from OneMap, I think the new launch is like the long plot along Flora Drive.
To save on cost, TID would probably start working on the new project as Hedges goes towards completion so that they can reuse the Hedges dorm. That plot is also very useful as a staging area for the construction materials, like what they used to do for Gale and currently Hedges.
The last 2 plots where the showroom and plots are probably going to be the most exclusion, considering that plot layouts are such that they are hidden from direct view behind a short "service road", surrounded by other developments. All other plots have long perimeters adjacent to the roads.
Doesn't the long plot look a bit narrow for a condo development?
Saw this outside the construction site, says expected date of completion is August 2014, hopefully won't delay.
Doesn't the long plot look a bit narrow for a condo development?
Indeed it looks more like cluster-housing, or best of all, if it's going to become residential with commercial/shop houses at first/second floor. I think everyone living in the area is hoping for the latter :D Interestingly, Flora road from its Azalea Park entrance all the way to Dahlia Park has a really wide pedestrian pavement, which easily allows the road to be expanded to 4 lane. This means that the road can be expanded to cater to a commercial development on that long plot, which is next to Dahlia.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/FloraDriveLandPlots_zps81232e8b.png
Using the land plot from OneMap, I think the new launch is like the long plot along Flora Drive.
To save on cost, TID would probably start working on the new project as Hedges goes towards completion so that they can reuse the Hedges dorm. That plot is also very useful as a staging area for the construction materials, like what they used to do for Gale and currently Hedges.
The last 2 plots where the showroom and plots are probably going to be the most exclusion, considering that plot layouts are such that they are hidden from direct view behind a short "service road", surrounded by other developments. All other plots have long perimeters adjacent to the roads.
great deduction skills as usual ;) the new showroom is definitely being built on the long empty plot of land. based on your inferences, it could mean that the new development will be built on where the hedges park showroom currently is, since the other 2 plots are currently occupied - one by the new showflat and the other by the workers' dorm. personally i would have preferred if the long plot is developed first, with a row commercial units at ground floor...:D
leftrightcentre
30-04-13, 00:34
I would think that cluster housing is the most appropriate for the land plot, but don't you think that'd be quite out of place amidst all the condos?
Other than the buyer might not bite due to prestige or whatever reason, it also goes against the grain of the area. Landed properties at Mariam area. Condos at Flora. Cluster housing might not sell well.
I think there's a possibility for condo. While it may look narrow in the map, and perhaps it really is in real life, I think there's space for at least a single row. If the CDL report matches that plot, it is 14k sqm which is just slightly 1/2 of Hedges (30k sqm). Perhaps a 300 unit development? I don't see how it could be 44k sqm. Then again, which plot could be 44k sqm which is 50% larger than the Hedges plot? Maybe 4824K and 4825N? They are afterall sequential numbers so likely the "same plot"? Also matches the info from my agent that Hedges showroom rests on TID's FH plot.
I think a commercial development would be great but I'm not sure what the plot is allowed to be used for. Anyone knows how to search for this info? A little mall with a supermart and few eateries like Greenwich would be great, but I wonder if it makes commercial sense? Low density area with low human traffic.
The original TOP was Dec 2014, revised to June 2015. Site states expected Aug 2014, CDL AR only states 2014. From what I hear, TOP is usually about 6-12mths faster. Let's hope for Oct 2014 when the first owners starts to move in!
I would think that cluster housing is the most appropriate for the land plot, but don't you think that'd be quite out of place amidst all the condos?
Other than the buyer might not bite due to prestige or whatever reason, it also goes against the grain of the area. Landed properties at Mariam area. Condos at Flora. Cluster housing might not sell well.
I think there's a possibility for condo. While it may look narrow in the map, and perhaps it really is in real life, I think there's space for at least a single row. If the CDL report matches that plot, it is 14k sqm which is just slightly 1/2 of Hedges (30k sqm). Perhaps a 300 unit development? I don't see how it could be 44k sqm. Then again, which plot could be 44k sqm which is 50% larger than the Hedges plot? Maybe 4824K and 4825N? They are afterall sequential numbers so likely the "same plot"? Also matches the info from my agent that Hedges showroom rests on TID's FH plot.
I think a commercial development would be great but I'm not sure what the plot is allowed to be used for. Anyone knows how to search for this info? A little mall with a supermart and few eateries like Greenwich would be great, but I wonder if it makes commercial sense? Low density area with low human traffic.
The original TOP was Dec 2014, revised to June 2015. Site states expected Aug 2014, CDL AR only states 2014. From what I hear, TOP is usually about 6-12mths faster. Let's hope for Oct 2014 when the first owners starts to move in!
Currently all the lands in the area are zoned as residential. Can be seen from the URA Masterplan 2008 (orange for residential). But that's 2008 and is due for an update, so there's a bit of hope...As for commercial sense and low density, have a look at Eastwood Centre along Bedok road. It has almost 20 shops and is surrounded by an even less dense neighbourhood made up of mostly landed houses. And its Cold Storage is doing quite fine.
leftrightcentre
30-04-13, 13:37
Ad from agent. Looks like 2014Q3 is indeed quite likely!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/0CE23837-23D5-4441-A255-B01F9A6C9447-3923-0000040B1F06B18C_zps19af3919.jpg
Only 14 units left. 13 BR + 1 2BR Patio. 97% sold!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/0362AC03-9E35-49D1-BBAD-B3F36CD957E3-3923-0000040B26707FBB_zpse2a52813.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/3FC95EB0-F739-4F65-A8BC-5EFFBCF23509-3923-0000040B2BF4A739_zps0e653ec6.jpg
The showroom is probably going to be torn down before the end of year. Maybe next visit I should go in and take some photos of the model and showflat for keepsake. :D
HardcoreDude
30-04-13, 14:42
Ad from agent. Looks like 2014Q3 is indeed quite likely!
Only 14 units left. 13 BR + 1 2BR Patio. 97% sold!
The showroom is probably going to be torn down before the end of year. Maybe next visit I should go in and take some photos of the model and showflat for keepsake. :D
Thats good, thank you for your consistent updates,yes, please take more photo,btw have u guys started to think about how to renovate the house,actually i m a bit headache about the common room's small size,and also is it allowed to install shelter to the balcony,coz my one is on the top floor,and it seems the balcony is not fully covered,meanwhile if someday i forgot to close the sliding door when its raining, i may go straight to the living room and have a swim~:doh:
Ad from agent. Looks like 2014Q3 is indeed quite likely!
Only 14 units left. 13 BR + 1 2BR Patio. 97% sold!
The showroom is probably going to be torn down before the end of year. Maybe next visit I should go in and take some photos of the model and showflat for keepsake. :D
i read somewhere that the showflat will be torn down in May, i.e. next month! so u might want to hurry, take some quality shots and share over here :D
Hi all!
I am an interested purchaser of a 3 br for own stay for this development. May I know has the price increased substantially for this development since the launch and whether do you feel there's still value in purchasing this development?
Many thanks in advance! :)
Hi all!
I am an interested purchaser of a 3 br for own stay for this development. May I know has the price increased substantially for this development since the launch and whether do you feel there's still value in purchasing this development?
Many thanks in advance! :)
Price has stayed the same. No increase afaik.
leftrightcentre
02-05-13, 22:38
Last 10 units!
The units really move fast recently.
Last 10 units!
The units really move fast recently.
this sudden increase of sales sounds rather fishy? some more they are the bigger units. perhaps 'insider' buying with insider news? e.g. the new development coming up is going to be more expensive, or going to be a mixed development?
this sudden increase of sales sounds rather fishy? some more they are the bigger units. perhaps 'insider' buying with insider news? e.g. the new development coming up is going to be more expensive, or going to be a mixed development?
Nothing fishy, on a psf basis, it's the cheapest around and TOP is only next year. Look at D'Nest, TOP still far far away, psf slightly higher, 800 over units in the development but almost sold out too.
leftrightcentre
03-05-13, 14:43
When I was looking then I noted that some stacks and certain floors were nearly all available. No prizes for guessing, #04 and -13 -44 type of non Chinese friendly numbers. My agent said that's not a problem when I commented who might take units such as 04-44 and 04-54 and 07-48 which sounds like die or would you die or go and die. The units would just move as TOP closes in.
When I was looking then I noted that some stacks and certain floors were nearly all available. No prizes for guessing, #04 and -13 -44 type of non Chinese friendly numbers. My agent said that's not a problem when I commented who might take units such as 04-44 and 04-54 and 07-48 which sounds like die or would you die or go and die. The units would just move as TOP closes in.
there's almost a year and a half more before TOP, so it's not really that soon...what i find strange is why the sudden big buying up of the units in the last month or 2, when the units are the bigger ones, the prices have not fallen, there are hardly any choices left, and there's no advertising for a long long time. feels like the buying up coincides with the upcoming sale of the new condo, so that there's no conflict? by the way 07-48 is really the ultimate when said in mandarin :D
When I was looking then I noted that some stacks and certain floors were nearly all available. No prizes for guessing, #04 and -13 -44 type of non Chinese friendly numbers. My agent said that's not a problem when I commented who might take units such as 04-44 and 04-54 and 07-48 which sounds like die or would you die or go and die. The units would just move as TOP closes in.
I am Chinese and I bought an unit that falls under the type of " non Chinese friendly numbers"
Let's keep individual's personal choices ; personal. :)
And focus on the progress of construction & the impending TOP
We all want to be Happy owners ain't it so?
Cheers :cheers6:
I am Chinese and I bought an unit that falls under the type of " non Chinese friendly numbers"
Let's keep individual's personal choices ; personal. :)
And focus on the progress of construction & the impending TOP
We all want to be Happy owners ain't it so?
Cheers :cheers6:
actually my current condo unit no. has two 4s in it, and i couldn't care less n i can laugh about it. i m chinese too. 4 being considered unlucky is simply superstition due to the cantonese pronunciation, and is not considered unlucky based on feng shui at all. anyway all the 9s did not stop the qing dynasty from collapsing, nor did all the 8s make people rich :)
Last 10 units!
The units really move fast recently.
Hi LRC, how to get such data? URA still shows up to Mar 2013 transactions
leftrightcentre
05-05-13, 03:31
My apologies if my comments caused any discomfort.
I don't have anything against (or for) special numbers and don't have any taboos. However, I believe any local regardless of race can relate to the effect of special numbers be in on unit number, car number plate, bidding price, etc. As observed in the sales progress, all the #04 units are the slowest to go. All units in stack -13 for example are all untaken right up till the 11th hour. This is a cultural phenomenon.
Given a choice, I think most, myself included, would choose a "nicer" unit number given similar conditions. Having said that, I would have taken an "inauspicious" number if I liked the unit for one reason or another. I am not concerned by what others have to say (although one would have to contend with the elders in the family; unless the number subsequently brings them 4D luck haha).
In any case, I think the agents have restarted their marketing for Hedges. In the recent weeks, I am getting emails from agents, seeing promo video (re)uploaded to Youtube, etc. on Hedges. That could be the reasons for the recent sales uptick.
Good house
05-05-13, 08:25
Read somewhere many years ago, number 4 is good for those in shipping and transport related activity. E.g. If there is four 4 in the number, the ship will be very stable and bring 'wang' t o the towkay......:)
Hi fellow Hedges folks,
Visited Hedges show flat last Sun before its close down. Was told by the agent tt 500 units out of the 501 units sold.
So one last one to go before 100% sold out. Waited for this day for a long time and its finally coming. :)
leftrightcentre
15-05-13, 09:22
Hi fellow Hedges folks,
Visited Hedges show flat last Sun before its close down. Was told by the agent tt 500 units out of the 501 units sold.
So one last one to go before 100% sold out. Waited for this day for a long time and its finally coming. :)
That's good news. When is the showflat closing? I better head down this weekend!
I want to take more photos of the sandmodel to compare against actual development haha.
Think can take some design cues from the ID too. There're 2 features I like :)
Good news.
Rec'd SMS from my agent this evening that Hedges 100% sold. She need not go back to the show-flat anymore.
Long wait but finally. Next stage, looking forward to TOP.
Any idea when the TOP will be ? able to make it for 2015 CNY ?
Any idea when the TOP will be ? able to make it for 2015 CNY ?
As per the construction firm, it stated Aug 2014. I'm expecting by Q4 of 2014, hopefully.
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great deduction skills as usual ;) the new showroom is definitely being built on the long empty plot of land. based on your inferences, it could mean that the new development will be built on where the hedges park showroom currently is, since the other 2 plots are currently occupied - one by the new showflat and the other by the workers' dorm. personally i would have preferred if the long plot is developed first, with a row commercial units at ground floor...:D
Anyone has any updates on the new development? From the outside, it looks like the showflat structure and carpark are ready.
Anyone has any updates on the new development? From the outside, it looks like the showflat structure and carpark are ready.
Yes confirmed, pass by and see it yesterday. Is this going to be FH or LH999 development? since the showflat and carpark is along Flora Drive, it will be very nice if it turns out to be a mixed development, condo/apts with a row of shops (just a dream perhaps) :cheers1:
Anyone has any updates on the new development? From the outside, it looks like the showflat structure and carpark are ready.
Yes an update from anyone will be great. Seems the developer is quite closed-mouth.
Btw accidental find:
Hedges Park
Award: Green Mark Gold
FY: FY12
Address: Lot 4539A Mk 31 at Upper Changi Road North / Flora Drive (Singapore 506881)
Postal Code: 506881
District: District 17
Developer: Tripartite Developers Pte Ltd
Architect: DP Architects Pte Ltd
Structural Engineer: TEP Consultants Pte Ltd
M & E Engineer: Meinhardt (Singapore) Pte Ltd
Landscape Consultant: Ong & Ong Pte Ltd
Quality Surveyor: Langdon & Seah Singapore Pte Ltd
Main Contractor: Lian Beng Construction (1988) Pte Lt
Interior Designer Index Design Pte Ltd
Green Features:
1. N-S Orientation and True Cross Ventilation.
2. Pneumatic Waste Disposal System.
3. Carpark ductless MV with CO sensor.
I counted 178 condos achieving the BCA Green Mark Award, ranging from Certified, Gold, Gold Plus and Platinum. Others include:
The Gale
The Sail
Bedok Residences
D'Nest
Livia
Savannah
Optima
The Palette.
Many are under CDL or partly under CDL (i.e. Hedges Park, Gale).
Can anyone advise on whether the PSF for this development since it was launched ? Was thinking of letting it go after TOP..
I thought properties at this area are freehold? Is this truly govt 99yrs LH or FH but developer imposed 99LH?
iwantgizmos
21-05-13, 14:02
I thought properties at this area are freehold? Is this truly govt 99yrs LH or FH but developer imposed 99LH?
It is govt whom sold this site on a 99-year lease.
29 March 2010 - http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/text/2010/pr10-28.html
27 April 2010 - http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/text/2010/pr10-49.html
30 April 2010 - http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/text/2010/pr10-52.html
It is govt whom sold this site on a 99-year lease.
29 March 2010 - http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/text/2010/pr10-28.html
27 April 2010 - http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/text/2010/pr10-49.html
30 April 2010 - http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/text/2010/pr10-52.html
what he asked is the remaining land slots, not hedges park
what he asked is the remaining land slots, not hedges park
But this is a Hedges Park thread leh... :D
Is the showroom has one which choosed the cool type of interior? Anyone who has taken the photo about the cool? Coz I chose the cool but never see the type or the showroom. Just wanna have a look lah. Thx
Is the showroom has one which choosed the cool type of interior? Anyone who has taken the photo about the cool? Coz I chose the cool but never see the type or the showroom. Just wanna have a look lah. Thx
The one bedroom in the showflat is cool type
Fully sold since last week.
Is the showroom has one which choosed the cool type of interior? Anyone who has taken the photo about the cool? Coz I chose the cool but never see the type or the showroom. Just wanna have a look lah. Thx
Only took 2 pics
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/IMG_2848_zpsb61cbdfb.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/offshore_chicane/media/IMG_2848_zpsb61cbdfb.jpg.html)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/IMG_2847_zps503193c6.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/offshore_chicane/media/IMG_2847_zps503193c6.jpg.html)
Only took 2 pics
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/IMG_2848_zpsb61cbdfb.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/offshore_chicane/media/IMG_2848_zpsb61cbdfb.jpg.html)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/IMG_2847_zps503193c6.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/offshore_chicane/media/IMG_2847_zps503193c6.jpg.html)
cool I like it! Thank you so much!:)
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Hope the cool type with all doorframe white! That will be perfect!
Hope the cool type with all doorframe white! That will be perfect!
yes they do come in white :)
except for the front door, that is...
I'm an inexperienced owner, can anyone advise if I should start looking for ID now or wait till TOP?
yes they do come in white :)
except for the front door, that is...
wood original？:scared-1: okay doesn't matter waiting for TOP!
favfuchsia
23-05-13, 20:17
Any pics of the warm type?? :D
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leftrightcentre
24-05-13, 11:56
Any pics of the warm type?? :D
Only have a few from my first visit.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/IMG_8127_zps6117a691.jpg[/URL]
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/IMG_8128_zps69251fdb.jpg[/URL]
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/IMG_8131_zps1f82d007.jpg[/URL]
favfuchsia
25-05-13, 12:40
Thanks LRC! :)
Warn color kitchen and bathroom.
different scheme has different feeling
urgent to get the key :banghead:
Alvinalvin
25-05-13, 20:22
Hello everybody , I'm a new member . I also bought a unit at HP. can't wait for TOP
Hello everybody , I'm a new member . I also bought a unit at HP. can't wait for TOP
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12. valleyman
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Paiseh.. thanks for the correction
Taken from the landbank of CDL 2012 AR:
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/CDLLandBank_zps753d5c43.png
That size of that long plot probably is the 14k sqm FH plot using rough estimation?
Not sure if the showroom and dorm plots are joint? Both plots when combined probably look like 44k sqm?
Actually I might be wrong on where the showroom is located. It might (more likely) be on the long plot instead. I was told by my agent then that the showroom plot is FH, so they might tear down the showroom and then develop that plot for sale.
The good news picked up from the CDL 2012 AR dated 31 Dec 2012 indicated that Hedges is expected to be completed in 2014! It was approximately 27% completed then. Not sure if the progress is audited, but it serves as a good gauge nonetheless. :)
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/HedgesStatus_zpsd32570e2.png
anyone knows where are the pasir ris land parcel 3 & 5?
Taken from the landbank of CDL 2012 AR:
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/CDLLandBank_zps753d5c43.png
That size of that long plot probably is the 14k sqm FH plot using rough estimation?
Not sure if the showroom and dorm plots are joint? Both plots when combined probably look like 44k sqm?
Actually I might be wrong on where the showroom is located. It might (more likely) be on the long plot instead. I was told by my agent then that the showroom plot is FH, so they might tear down the showroom and then develop that plot for sale.
The good news picked up from the CDL 2012 AR dated 31 Dec 2012 indicated that Hedges is expected to be completed in 2014! It was approximately 27% completed then. Not sure if the progress is audited, but it serves as a good gauge nonetheless. :)
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/HedgesStatus_zpsd32570e2.png
Hi bro can I check with you which web site you get this information this chat ?
Hi bro can I check with you which web site you get this information this chat ?
CDL's 2012 annual report below. All the details are in there.
http://www.cdl.com.sg/annualreport2012/
leftrightcentre
28-05-13, 17:15
Just got an email from my lawyer that the developer has called for the next 10%! 20% loan disbursed!
For my block, #02 had been called on end-Jan/Mar/Apr. In fact unit below mine was called end-Apr. So expect 1 month for 1 floor. :)
My earlier guess-timation was clearly not given much thought since it does not take into consideration of progressive calling of loan disbursement and it is not exactly based on any scientific method. But still, they are calling for the 10% RC end-May while I guess-timated to be June. Not bad for a noob haha.
If I were to assume some lead time for completion of unit + surveyor validation + documentation for calling, it is about 2-3months i.e. completed in March, call in May/June.
Let's see how far the progress would deviate from my guess-timation.
2013 Mar - #03 completed, >50% #04 + some #05 under construction
2013 Apr - #04 completed, >50% #05 under construction
2013 May - #05 completed
2013 Jun - #06 completed, start calling for next 10% for RC, start constructing external walls for lower levels
2013 Jul - #07 completed
2013 Aug - #08 completed
2013 Sep - start building entrance/function room, all external walls constructed
2013 Oct - start calling for next 5% brick walls
2013 Nov -
2013 Dec - external paintwork completed
2014 Jan - start building pools and roads, start calling for next 5% ceiling/roof
2014 Feb -
2014 Mar - start mounting aircon compressor
2014 Apr - start calling for next 5% elec+plumbling
2014 May -
2014 Jun - start planting greenery
2014 Jul - start calling for next 5% carpark/road/drains
2014 Aug -
2014 Sep -
2014 Oct - start calling for TOP (next 25%)
2014 Nov
2014 Dec
...
2015 Jun - CSC, start calling for final 15%
leftrightcentre
28-05-13, 17:26
It is very true that the 2 scheme give very different feeling. The cool theme is modern, sharp, contemporary, and well, cool. The warm theme is soothing, comfortable, simple, and warm.
For me the cool theme looks really good. Probably what many young professionals would have liked. The black tops and walls would be "easy to maintain" (dirt can't be seen haha).
The warm theme on the other hand I thought would be more comfortable to live in. It is not so "loud" or "straight at you" demanding for you attention. Kind of the house just "fade into the background" and let you do your stuff.
No matter what each preference is, both looks good :)
Who has already started ideas for their reno/furnishing/etc.? Anyone has contacts for good, reliable, and fairly priced contractor/ID?
I am wanting to tear down 2 walls but was advised by my agent and a few friends to wait for at least 10mths if not the developer might not "honour" warranty defects alleging the wall hacking to contribute to the defect. Can't wait!
may I know which floor they are calling for the additional 10% for RC? Thanks.
Just got an email from my lawyer that the developer has called for the next 10%! 20% loan disbursed!
For my block, #02 had been called on end-Jan/Mar/Apr. In fact unit below mine was called end-Apr. So expect 1 month for 1 floor. :)
My earlier guess-timation was clearly not given much thought since it does not take into consideration of progressive calling of loan disbursement and it is not exactly based on any scientific method. But still, they are calling for the 10% RC end-May while I guess-timated to be June. Not bad for a noob haha.
If I were to assume some lead time for completion of unit + surveyor validation + documentation for calling, it is about 2-3months i.e. completed in March, call in May/June.
It is very true that the 2 scheme give very different feeling. The cool theme is modern, sharp, contemporary, and well, cool. The warm theme is soothing, comfortable, simple, and warm.
For me the cool theme looks really good. Probably what many young professionals would have liked. The black tops and walls would be "easy to maintain" (dirt can't be seen haha).
The warm theme on the other hand I thought would be more comfortable to live in. It is not so "loud" or "straight at you" demanding for you attention. Kind of the house just "fade into the background" and let you do your stuff.
No matter what each preference is, both looks good :)
Who has already started ideas for their reno/furnishing/etc.? Anyone has contacts for good, reliable, and fairly priced contractor/ID?
I am wanting to tear down 2 walls but was advised by my agent and a few friends to wait for at least 10mths if not the developer might not "honour" warranty defects alleging the wall hacking to contribute to the defect. Can't wait!
I haven't gone to the showroom, but really care about the interior color. Black top? Does it mean any room with a black top? Never imaged that. Hope no more black coz more black will make the room looked smaller. Yahaha, I really like the cool toilet and the kitchen. Waiting for the bedrooms! :)
I haven't gone to the showroom, but really care about the interior color. Black top? Does it mean any room with a black top? Never imaged that. Hope no more black coz more black will make the room looked smaller. Yahaha, I really like the cool toilet and the kitchen. Waiting for the bedrooms! :)
You bought a unit without even visiting the showroom? :scared-4:
leftrightcentre
29-05-13, 11:23
I haven't gone to the showroom, but really care about the interior color. Black top? Does it mean any room with a black top? Never imaged that. Hope no more black coz more black will make the room looked smaller. Yahaha, I really like the cool toilet and the kitchen. Waiting for the bedrooms! :)
Black top as in the kitchen top is black, the bath sink top is black. Walls, cabinets, and wardrobe are black too. Maybe not black black but greyish black.
Oh, not too sure about wardrobe. The only showroom with cool theme was the 1BR which I think did not come with a wardrobe but used the bomb shelter as a wardrobe instead?
HardcoreDude
29-05-13, 17:19
I haven't gone to the showroom, but really care about the interior color. Black top? Does it mean any room with a black top? Never imaged that. Hope no more black coz more black will make the room looked smaller. Yahaha, I really like the cool toilet and the kitchen. Waiting for the bedrooms! :)
Bro wad i can say, salute~
You bought a unit without even visiting the showroom? :scared-4:
Yep,coz I'm not in Singapore, so ... But my husband has gone the showroom but with few cool scheme fotos taken. Yahaha we bought the unit too late, so no more choice for us. Coz I like panda,so everything should be black and white. Cool is my choice! I really wanna have a look at the showroom when I came to Singapore last month, but too busy, so... :D
Bro wad i can say, salute~
I have seen the floor plan and the site plan
. That will be ok. And also the elevation is what I like. That's enough.
Black top as in the kitchen top is black, the bath sink top is black. Walls, cabinets, and wardrobe are black too. Maybe not black black but greyish black.
Oh, not too sure about wardrobe. The only showroom with cool theme was the 1BR which I think did not come with a wardrobe but used the bomb shelter as a wardrobe instead?
Really cool!
leftrightcentre
03-06-13, 01:05
Another monthly update.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0899_zpsa765ac0b.jpg
Some units are starting to have brick walls forming!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0900_zps1dea80ce.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0901_zps84f8a347.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0902_zpsc7de53e2.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0903_zps2ffe615f.jpg
The floors are coming up fast and furious across all blocks!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0905_zps83acc82d.jpg
They have now put floor numberings and can see #04 in the photo. #05 is also sort of up, and #06 is also in the process of "upping" for some units. Can't wait for #08!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0907_zps1749baca.jpg
Video: http://goo.gl/M2Ifa
leftrightcentre
03-06-13, 01:13
The new showflat.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/New%20Flora%20Showroom/IMG_0896_zpsaedea0ff.jpg
Taken from Hedges showroom carpark.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/New%20Flora%20Showroom/IMG_0897_zpsb5d3d1d7.jpg
If you take a look past the reflection, you might probably see a sample "palette" on the wall. Seems like there would be 2 themes to choose from, similar to Hedges. Is this CDL/TID characteristic?
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/New%20Flora%20Showroom/IMG_0898_zps2688836d.jpg
The carpark they are setting up is quite big. Much bigger than Hedges. What can we expect.
BTW, I spoke to a friend who is an architect with HDB, he shared that the zoning is strict and it is not possible to apply to have a residential rezoned as mixed development.
leftrightcentre
03-06-13, 02:11
The showroom is still around though is closed. There're notices informing of the closure due to 100% sold status.
I managed to have the security let me in for a quick look to take some photos. Due to the rush (he keep saying his manager coming back and I need to leave) I didn't quite manage to get a good focus on the shots. Photos are less sharp than I wanted but anyway.
I thought that the sanitary fittings are "brandless" as I don't recall seeing any brand markings previously. Apparently, this is not completely true as some of the fittings do have the brand name showing. The brand is "Bravat".
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/Showroom/IMG_0885_zpse944ec6f.jpg
Common toilet bowl.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/Showroom/IMG_0886_zpsb9c3b1d6.jpg
Common bath wash basin. Didn't see any branding on the basin or the tap.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/Showroom/IMG_0891_zpsf9bf343a.jpg
No branding seen on the toilet bowl flush buttons or the bowl itself. Maybe on the lid that is covered by the towels?
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/Showroom/IMG_0890_zps983970a5.jpg
Bravat is seen on the basin and the tap.
Wonder why there are such inconsistencies or mismatch. If they are all the same brand, why the brand is not seen in all the items? One bowl has the brand, the other doesn't. One basin has the brand, the other doesn't.
The theory that the common bath uses "less premium unbranded" fittings is also not true since the common toilet bowl has the same brand.
Anyway, the masterbath toilet bowl design is different from the on in the common bath as you can already see from the flush buttons. The master toilet bowl is integrated into the wall. Not only that, it is mounted to the wall and not sitting on the floor.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/Showroom/IMG_0892_zpsec3019ea.jpg
Didn't manage to see the brand of the aircon, but the kitchen appliances are Electrolux.
From Bravat's website:
Bravat is the High-end brand of kitchen and bath products owned by Roman Dietsche, a German sanitary ware provider funded at Yr.1873.
We provide total solution for kitchen and bathroom to high-end customers with full ranges of sanitary products.
Our R&D Centers located in Germany and China respectively. The German perfection workmanship assure Bravat always brings you a healthy and comfortable bathroom experience.
With German quality and stylish designs, Bravat products are popular in luxury hotels and commercial constructions around the world.
Since Yr.2000, Bravat grows steady in China. Our products are frequently recommended by designers and applied in different 5-star hotels, private clubs and high-end residential estates.
Meanwhile, we keep improving our manufacturing technology and integrating our resources to support the brand development. It is Bravat's global strategic goal to provide customer not only excellent products but also leading lifestyle.
Apparently Kovan Melody also uses Bravat and there's 1 good and 1 bad comment on Renotalk: http://www.renotalk.com/forum/topic/42661-hansgrohe-grohe-toto-bravat/
My friend who is staying in Kovan Melody who are using their product told me their mixer quite durable, still working after so long.
i stayed in kovan for a year. bravat is the last brand i will go for. mixer leaking. mixer knob lose and few came off. shower spray leaking.
Another monthly update.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0899_zpsa765ac0b.jpg
Some units are starting to have brick walls forming!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0900_zps1dea80ce.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0901_zps84f8a347.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0902_zpsc7de53e2.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0903_zps2ffe615f.jpg
The floors are coming up fast and furious across all blocks!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0905_zps83acc82d.jpg
They have now put floor numberings and can see #04 in the photo. #05 is also sort of up, and #06 is also in the process of "upping" for some units. Can't wait for #08!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress%2020130602/IMG_0907_zps1749baca.jpg
Video: http://goo.gl/M2Ifa
LFC, the photos are not showing.
Was looking forward, and only hopeful, for some kind of mixed development.
Maybe condo with a few shops will do then...
The new showflat.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/New%20Flora%20Showroom/IMG_0896_zpsaedea0ff.jpg
Taken from Hedges showroom carpark.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/New%20Flora%20Showroom/IMG_0897_zpsb5d3d1d7.jpg
If you take a look past the reflection, you might probably see a sample "palette" on the wall. Seems like there would be 2 themes to choose from, similar to Hedges. Is this CDL/TID characteristic?
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/New%20Flora%20Showroom/IMG_0898_zps2688836d.jpg
The carpark they are setting up is quite big. Much bigger than Hedges. What can we expect.
BTW, I spoke to a friend who is an architect with HDB, he shared that the zoning is strict and it is not possible to apply to have a residential rezoned as mixed development.
leftrightcentre
03-06-13, 16:10
Oops... Sorry, think the links got mesed up when I was sorting the photos into albums.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130602/IMG_0899_zpsa765ac0b.jpg
The brick walls.
The overview:
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130602/IMG_0900_zps1dea80ce.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130602/IMG_0901_zps84f8a347.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130602/IMG_0902_zpsc7de53e2.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130602/IMG_0903_zps2ffe615f.jpg
You can see that good progress had been made since the last update. Very soon we are going to be able to see all blocks sprouting above the Hedge from Upper Changi Road.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130602/IMG_0905_zps83acc82d.jpg
The floor numberings.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130602/IMG_0907_zps1749baca.jpg
Looks alike the mixed development possibility is out as mentioned by another forumer earlier that the authority is rather sticky about the change in plan...Haizzz.. Was harbouring the same hope as you previously
Looks alike the mixed development possibility is out as mentioned by another forumer earlier that the authority is rather sticky about the change in plan...Haizzz.. Was harbouring the same hope as you previously
Really? then how about the following amendments that have ALREADY been made to the masterplan???? lol.
proposed amendments to masterplan 2008 land use:
http://www.ura.gov.sg/dc/mp2008/mp08_body_prop.html
approved amendments to masterplan 2008 land use:
http://www.ura.gov.sg/dc/mp2008/mp08_body_app.html
for the unaware, approval has been given to change the lot next to tanah merah mrt from 'mixed-use development' to 'residential with shops on ground floor'. lol
not to mention masterplan 2013 is due by end of this year, which means More amendments still.
but of course, before we see a 'mixed development' or 'residential with shops on ground floor' along flora drive, we will see an amendment to the masterplan beforehand.
since the new condo seems ready to launch in a month, and there's no amendment announcement, we can assume the upcoming condo is without any commercial units. but then, since the showflat as well as workers' housing are sitting on the whole long strip of freehold land fronting the road, which we speculate may be part-commercial, we may also assume that the condo development about to be launched is NOT going to be built on this occupied land, but rather on the land where hedges park showroom is - which incidentally is going to be torn down.
so it is still anyone's guess what that strip of land fronting flora drive will become. we might see the proposed amendment appearing before that strip of land becomes developed into part-commercial. a little hope, so fingers-crossed.
btw nobody wonders why the land is divided in such an 'ugly' and odd manner - a narrow strip and 2 very irregular pieces of land? in fact, it's very disadvantageous for the narrow strip, as all units built on the strip will be directly west-facing! so why portion it out like that? unless they have street-fronting shops?
also, as i posted earlier, there is an extremely wide pedestrian walkway from flora road leading all the way to that strip of land, and ending there. it's obviously meant for road expansion. so why that extra-wide pedestrian path only for that section of flora area, and leading only to that location, and no where else?
for the unaware, approval has been given to change the lot next to tanah merah mrt from 'mixed-use development' to 'residential with shops on ground floor'. lol
This is interesting. Urban Vista was marketed on the fact that it's next to a 'commercial' hub. Now a residential with shops on ground floor is very different from a full fledged shopping centre! :doh:
The Gale had very few resale this year but high psf and not sure in coming two years new projects on Flora can mainatin the 1000+ psf mark.
Hedges 100% sold.
yes 100% sold since 3 weeks ago.
i saw a poster outside the site advertising this, as well as another that says something 'exciting is coming your way', which i assume means the new condo is going to be launched soon.
yes 100% sold since 3 weeks ago.
i saw a poster outside the site advertising this, as well as another that says something 'exciting is coming your way', which i assume means the new condo is going to be launched soon.
Ya, looking forward to this new project, how exciting can it be (with some shops will be real excitment). L999 or FH, if price is right worth to take a look.
I passed across flora and stepped down near Hedges and carefully looked at the "Excitement coming your way". The hoarding was in purple color and well assimilated with Hedges hoarding in same color and was three times repeated along the Hedges hoarding. Tome and my wife it seemed like the original Hedges advert & not any new advert.
I may be wrong but to us it did not seem as advert for a new project!!...
Best rgds, Gull
Any hedges park 8th floor buyers here interested in covering up the top of their balcony. Trying to see if there are enough people, so I can setup a proposal to mcst when the place is ready.
Any hedges park 8th floor buyers here interested in covering up the top of their balcony. Trying to see if there are enough people, so I can setup a proposal to mcst when the place is ready.
Hi Loonsy, yes, count me in. I'm keen to have a proper cover up for my unit. Otherwise, my wife wants to get those big Starbucks alike umbrella at the balcony.
Seeking more support from 8th floor units' owners.
Cheers,
HardcoreDude
17-06-13, 23:46
Any hedges park 8th floor buyers here interested in covering up the top of their balcony. Trying to see if there are enough people, so I can setup a proposal to mcst when the place is ready.
Plz count me,btw how much does it cost roughly?any idea?
List for buyers wanting 8th Floor Balcony cover up.
1. loonsy
2. EK@East
3. Hardcoredude
List for buyers wanting 8th Floor Balcony cover up.
1. loonsy
2. EK@East
3. Hardcoredude
if u r keen, u will first need to be aware of the ruling on balconies and gfa (gross floor area):
http://www.ura.gov.sg/circulars/text/dcdgfahb_d0e180.htm
for each piece of land, developers are restricted by ura to build up to a certain floor area that is sale-able, called the gfa. hedges park has a site area of 30,678.7 m2, plot ratio of 1.4 and a gfa of 42,951 m2 (site area x plot ratio).
however, uncovered roof terraces and balconies are not counted as part of gfa. what's important to note is that if the balconies or roof terraces are covered, they become counted as part of gfa, and that will cause the gfa to exceed what is allowed on the piece on land, especially since the developer would have built to the maximum allowed gfa to maximise profits. that will go against the law.
hence, before even applying for approval from the condo management to build shelters, you will need to find out if the developer has already maximised gfa. personally i don't see why they wouldn't. and if they have, building shelters over balconies will be out of the question as it will be against the law.
hope this helps.
HardcoreDude
19-06-13, 10:35
if u r keen, u will first need to be aware of the ruling on balconies and gfa (gross floor area):
http://www.ura.gov.sg/circulars/text/dcdgfahb_d0e180.htm
for each piece of land, developers are restricted by ura to build up to a certain floor area that is sale-able, called the gfa. hedges park has a site area of 30,678.7 m2, plot ratio of 1.4 and a gfa of 42,951 m2 (site area x plot ratio).
however, uncovered roof terraces and balconies are not counted as part of gfa. what's important to note is that if the balconies or roof terraces are covered, they become counted as part of gfa, and that will cause the gfa to exceed what is allowed on the piece on land, especially since the developer would have built to the maximum allowed gfa to maximise profits. that will go against the law.
hence, before even applying for approval from the condo management to build shelters, you will need to find out if the developer has already maximised gfa. personally i don't see why they wouldn't. and if they have, building shelters over balconies will be out of the question as it will be against the law.
hope this helps.
Thank you for your information Gav, i think we still need to try first,coz no try=zero chance, i actually saw some units of other project who installed such glass shelter to their uncovered balcony, if the above you mentioned applies to all those open balcony units and projects, they should't be able to do that,unless its illegal, so maybe hope is till there, its just not that big,haha:cheers6:
Thank you for your information Gav, i think we still need to try first,coz no try=zero chance, i actually saw some units of other project who installed such glass shelter to their uncovered balcony, if the above you mentioned applies to all those open balcony units and projects, they should't be able to do that,unless its illegal, so maybe hope is till there, its just not that big,haha:cheers6:
ur welcome. 3 possibilities for their success in installing the shelters:
1) the condo developments are older ones which do no fall under the newer ura ruling on balconies and open terraces
2) developer did not maximise gfa
3) it is illegal and subject to penalties and/or legal action if found out
yup can request. the management will revert back to the architect firm, which will have all the building rules to determine it's feasibility.
i think a standardized, unobtrusive, clear-glass overhang should look ok, if allowed. gd luck!
List for buyers wanting 8th Floor Balcony cover up.
1. loonsy
2. EK@East
3. Hardcoredude
4. Leftfield
List for buyers wanting 8th Floor Balcony cover up.
1. loonsy
2. EK@East
3. Hardcoredude
4. Leftfield
How many 8th floor units are there. Best if we can larger numbers.
Hi,
I've bought a unit here..
Anyone knows the progress?
:)
Hi,
I've bought a unit here..
Anyone knows the progress?
:)
adding mka:
1. Leftfield
2. Leftrightcentre
3. Roarrrr
4. Astro
5. Bragpig
6. gull #05-35
7. lzhou006
8. makancula
9. EK@East
10.metformin
11. gav108
12. valleyman
13. Mummy Irene
14. favfuchsia
15. scrubbie
16.HardcoreDude
17. sun&wind
18. loonsy
19.lisapanda
20. sskdaphne
21. tim
22. Alvinalvin
23. mka
leftrightcentre
21-06-13, 11:25
Hi,
I've bought a unit here..
Anyone knows the progress?
:)
Usually there's monthly progress update with photos/video of the construction.
I don't think it's is far to say that progress is not v slow due to the haze problem. :hell-hath-no-fury:
Brilliant.
Look forward to TOP.
I liked HP because of its family centric facility. My boy just can't wait for the flying fox. We bought the ground unit facing the marina.
Apart from the boats provided, are we allowed to paddle on our own canoes?
Guess we wait for TOP to find out eh?
Hi,
Anyone tried changing the colour scheme from warm to cool or vice versa? What is the procedure or who can I call?
Thanks
HardcoreDude
24-06-13, 13:01
Hi,
Anyone tried changing the colour scheme from warm to cool or vice versa? What is the procedure or who can I call?
Thanks
Hi, i asked my agent about this last time,he told me its possible,but subject to developer's approval, you can ask your lawyer to write in to the developer's lawyer,requesting to change the colour scheme, and you need to do it as early as possible~:cool-punk-headbange
regarding the piece of land next to hedges, from sgx:
The Board of Directors of Lian Beng Group Ltd (the “Company", and together with its subsidiaries, the “Group”) wishes to announce that its wholly-owned subsidiary, Lian Beng Construction (1988) Pte Ltd has secured a contract from Tripartite Developers Pte Ltd for the design, construction, completion and maintenance in connection with the proposed condominium development comprising 9 blocks of 8-storey residential building (total 396 units) and 1 block of clubhouse with one basement carpark, swimming pool and tennis court on lots 01580T, 03710M, 04643P and 04823 PT MK31 at Flora Drive (Pasir Ris Planning Area) (the “Contract”).The Contract is worth S$115 million. The contract period shall be 28 months and is expected to commence in July 2013.
the land lot numbers don't correspond with the ura numbers? seems to be a smaller development with fewer units and cheaper construction costs. hedges construction cost is 150.7 million btw, but that includes earthworks digging into the ground...
I bought a unit of HP... Please include me as well. :cheers4:
adding mka:
1. Leftfield
2. Leftrightcentre
3. Roarrrr
4. Astro
5. Bragpig
6. gull #05-35
7. lzhou006
8. makancula
9. EK@East
10.metformin
11. gav108
12. valleyman
13. Mummy Irene
14. favfuchsia
15. scrubbie
16.HardcoreDude
17. sun&wind
18. loonsy
19.lisapanda
20. sskdaphne
21. tim
22. Alvinalvin
23. mka
Took some quick pictures when I was in the vicinity on Friday.
Will the entrance will be between the two humps?
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/HedgesPark050713A_zpsfa64df3f.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/offshore_chicane/media/HedgesPark050713A_zpsfa64df3f.jpg.html)
Blk 73 and 75 are already at level 7.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/HedgesPark050713E_zps09e40084.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/offshore_chicane/media/HedgesPark050713E_zps09e40084.jpg.html)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/HedgesPark050713D_zpsdcdd7073.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/offshore_chicane/media/HedgesPark050713D_zpsdcdd7073.jpg.html)
Still a lot of work to be done at the ground level
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/HedgesPark050713C_zpsefdbdfe7.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/offshore_chicane/media/HedgesPark050713C_zpsefdbdfe7.jpg.html)
Another look at the blocks with the fastest progress
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/HedgesPark050713B_zps050ec317.jpg
(http://s11.photobucket.com/user/offshore_chicane/media/HedgesPark050713B_zps050ec317.jpg.html)
Not as comprehensive as the update from LFC but I was in a hurry and this was the best I could do! :beats-me-man:
Took some quick pictures when I was in the vicinity on Friday.
Will the entrance will be between the two humps?
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/HedgesPark050713A_zpsfa64df3f.jpg
Blk 73 and 75 are already at level 7.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/HedgesPark050713E_zps09e40084.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/HedgesPark050713D_zpsdcdd7073.jpg
Still a lot of work to be done at the ground levelhttp://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/HedgesPark050713C_zpsefdbdfe7.jpg
Another look at the blocks with the fastest progress
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/offshore_chicane/HedgesPark050713B_zps050ec317.jpg
Not as comprehensive as the previous updates from LFC but I was in a hurry and this was the best I could do! :beats-me-man:
leftrightcentre
07-07-13, 21:14
Progress update 6th Jul 2013.
"Back view"
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130706/IMG_1380_zpsf54174cd.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130706/IMG_1382_zps104623e3.jpg
Main pool
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130706/IMG_1383_zps4b8302d7.jpg
Marina pool
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130706/IMG_1384_zps9cac2104.jpg
Club house
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130706/IMG_1386_zps8d706bdc.jpg
Video: http://goo.gl/GjKrq
Vey pleasantly surprised by the progress, considering that the haze situation.
All the blocks are about similarly high. You can probably see the #06 labelling in the photos, and #07 is not labelled yet but it is certainly up. I think we might see all blocks completed to #08 by National Day? :)
BTW, took a peep into the new showroom but nothing much could be seen yet.
leftrightcentre
07-07-13, 21:16
The forum lagged. Didn't see leftfield's post until l my post went through.
I think in one of my older posts, I estimated the entrance to be between the 2 humps too... :(
thanks leftfield and lrc for the timely updates. i will give it a more conservative target of end sept for all floors to be up :D
favfuchsia
08-07-13, 22:22
Thanks both!
Hong Leong is selling off Hedges' showroom furniture.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97573149@N04/sets/
Anyone keen?
Hong Leong is selling off Hedges' showroom furniture.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97573149@N04/sets/
Anyone keen?
How to go about it?
look at what i found!
http://www.ong-ong.com/projects/proposed-flora-drive-parcel-1/14
the design of the new condo at flora drive is out! by ong and ong architects...:D
looks a bit similar to hedges park don't you think? with parallel stacks and open spaces in between...
look at what i found!
http://www.ong-ong.com/projects/proposed-flora-drive-parcel-1/14
the design of the new condo at flora drive is out! by ong and ong architects...:D
looks a bit similar to hedges park don't you think? with parallel stacks and open spaces in between...
on the same website are also lots of photos of the Gale:
http://www.ong-ong.com/projects/the-gale/10
interesting to see because the block-to-block distance is about the same as hedges park, though hedges will feel more spacious as it is 7 stories high, whereas Gale is 8-9 stories...
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/FloraDriveLandPlots_zps81232e8b.png
looking at the new condo's site plan, it will fall on the piece of land mk31-04825n, which is next to hedges park and away from flora drive:
http://www.ong-ong.com/projects/proposed-flora-drive-parcel-1/14
leftrightcentre
16-07-13, 13:47
The design is nice. Modern contemporary touch to it.
I also like the plot, with the exclusivity being nestled amidst the other developments.
Re plot mk31-04825n, anyone has any idea how much was the land sold for?
Re plot mk31-04825n, anyone has any idea how much was the land sold for?
the whole plot of land in flora region, including the A to G condos as well as the remaining undeveloped lands were all bought decades ago by hong leong at dirt cheap prices.
the whole plot of land in flora region, including the A to G condos as well as the remaining undeveloped lands were all bought decades ago by hong leong at dirt cheap prices.
So this was not from the same batch land plots up for tender for PI, HP & PO.
Interesting, which means this will be a FH project!
leftrightcentre
17-07-13, 10:39
So this was not from the same batch land plots up for tender for PI, HP & PO.
Interesting, which means this will be a FH project!
I'm not too certain. According the the AR landbank, there are 2 plots left. But we are seeing at least 3 plots - HP dorm, HP showflat, and new showflat.
From Ong&Ong site, it seems like the project is on the dorm site simply basing on the driveway.
Looking at the OneMap plot boundary, that plot certainly does not seem larger than HP. HP is ~30k sqm. The freehold plot is 14k sqm. The 99yr plot is 44k sqm.
Which plot is ~50% larger than HP? Visually, I think the dorm plot + new showflat plot. If you look at their plot number, they are in running sequence, so likely they were either released/bought at the same time, or split/joint somewhere in time. Need a land sales/URA expert to enlighten us I reckon?
If I have to guess, I think it was an original large plot that they subsequently decided to break into 2 smaller plots to better capture market opportunities. This puts some sense into why it was listed as a single plot in the AR.
Easier to sell smaller developments (esp now there's a deadline for sales before penalty kicks in), controlled "exclusivity" more consistent with the size of nearby developments, risk hedging against changing market conditions, etc.
Now if you ask me if the HP showflat looks like ~50% of HP plot, I would say kinda not really from the OneMap land boundary, but looks like it if I am at the ground. I might have mentioned before that one of my agent told me previously that the showflat lies on a FH land by the developer.
Maybe just to speculate, if this is a LH project, what are the chances it would be in the 1.2-1.4k psf that nearly every recent projects are priced? I doubt it would be in the 800-1k psf range for HP, but higher. No MRT so maybe not 1.4k. 1.1-1.2k psf sounds reasonable?
But that is like nearly the price of nearby FH? Gale is going 1.1-1.3k psf? I think the pricing of this new development has certain bearing on the price appreciation (hopefully) of the area.
Or maybe if this is FH it might be release in the 1.4-1.6k psf range?
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/CDLLandBank_zps753d5c43.png
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges/HedgesStatus_zpsd32570e2.png
BTW, I tried looking up the URA vacant land sales history (there's an Excel file from URA's website) but didn't see anything from Upper Changi/Flora/HL/CDL/TID. That history goes back to late 90s. The entire area should had been acquired maybe 70s? 80s? Imagine the amount of profit. Hope they return a bit of the value by giving us quality workmanship!
Overwhelming and detailed response as always, lfc!
Tons of Gale sub-sale units asking for around 1.2K so I suspect any new launches cannot deviate too much from there. I suspect it would probably be slightly above 1K, taking in consideration the 3-4 years wait time.
So this was not from the same batch land plots up for tender for PI, HP & PO.
Interesting, which means this will be a FH project!
thought this has been discussed before? most probably 99 years. like savannah condo which sat partly on freehold land, all of it was converted to 99 years.
and as I said before, the likely freehold land is the narrow strip of land facing flora drive, which hopefully comes with shop houses/amenities. if it comes with amenities, it is also likely to be the last to be developed, just like the plot of land for condo with amenities in tanah merah will probably be released last, after the residential mass is maximised.
thought this has been discussed before? most probably 99 years. like savannah condo which sat partly on freehold land, all of it was converted to 99 years.
and as I said before, the likely freehold land is the narrow strip of land facing flora drive, which hopefully comes with shop houses/amenities. if it comes with amenities, it is also likely to be the last to be developed, just like the plot of land for condo with amenities in tanah merah will probably be released last, after the residential mass is maximised.
If this plot was part of the land bank acquired by HL eons ago, it'll most certainly be FH but of cos your guess is as good as mine whether they will sell it at 99LH instead!
The last narrow stretch of land is kinda odd. Will be a challenge to maximize good use of it.
leftrightcentre
18-07-13, 15:11
If this plot was part of the land bank acquired by HL eons ago, it'll most certainly be FH but of cos your guess is as good as mine whether they will sell it at 99LH instead!
The last narrow stretch of land is kinda odd. Will be a challenge to maximize good use of it.
Cluster housing or 2/3 blocks position inline with rooftop amenities. It'd be a different development with sky pool and BBQ. :)
6353Some timelines for this block.
Was wondering when is the next 10% due have been waiting...The longer the wait is the further the TOP
hi. to those who bought the highest floor i.e. 8th floor units, could u shed some light on whether the units come with higher ceilings? if so, what's the floor to ceiling height? thks.
hi. to those who bought the highest floor i.e. 8th floor units, could u shed some light on whether the units come with higher ceilings? if so, what's the floor to ceiling height? thks.
I asked the agent previously and she said she is not aware that the ceiling is higher than normal i.e. 2.9m.
HardcoreDude
29-07-13, 10:21
I asked the agent previously and she said she is not aware that the ceiling is higher than normal i.e. 2.9m.
2.9m?my agent told me its the same as other floor which is 2.8m.:doh:
2.9m?my agent told me its the same as other floor which is 2.8m.:doh:
You are right, I stand corrected. it's 2.8m. Must be old age. :ashamed1:
Will the developer install inverter type air conditioner?
I have asked this question to my the agent but he can't confirm.
Inverter will defnintely help reduce the bills and of course our carbon footprint.
;)
thks guys, that means h88 review is wrong about the ceiling height of top floors. going through the ura transactions, i noticed the last 2 bedders (797 sq ft) were transacted at 951 to 980 psf! and the last 2 bedder with pes (969 sq ft) with additional huge pes area of 16 sq m was sold at 894 psf, or $865700! quite pricey isn't it? seems like prices have gone up despite these being developer sales...or maybe it's because these units were priced the highest (for reasons i cannot fathom since almost all units are n-s and pool facing) and were therefore the last to move...
thks guys, that means h88 review is wrong about the ceiling height of top floors. going through the ura transactions, i noticed the last 2 bedders (797 sq ft) were transacted at 951 to 980 psf! and the last 2 bedder with pes (969 sq ft) with additional huge pes area of 16 sq m was sold at 894 psf, or $865700! quite pricey isn't it? seems like prices have gone up despite these being developer sales...or maybe it's because these units were priced the highest (for reasons i cannot fathom since almost all units are n-s and pool facing) and were therefore the last to move...
http://www.h88.com.sg/article/Hedges+Park%3A+Review+and+Prices/
You referring to this review? Truth be told, the answer given by my agent is that she is not aware so the review could be right if my agent is clueless! :doh:
http://www.h88.com.sg/article/Hedges+Park%3A+Review+and+Prices/
You referring to this review? Truth be told, the answer given by my agent is that she is not aware so the review could be right if my agent is clueless! :doh:
the review could be wrong too. if the agent did not mention higher ceiling to those who bought the 8th floor, and the 8th floor buyers did not pay a premium (other than the few thousand bucks difference per higher floor), then the ceiling should be the normal 2.8 m.
condos that i know of in the region (gale, edelweiss park, palm isle, ferraria) are also providing 2.8 m ceilings. parc olympia is however providing 2.7 m ceiling. typical hdb ceiling height is 2.6m.
This is what I found at propertyguru website while looking at Hedges Park listing under Condo section:
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/15133960/for-sale-hedges-park-condominium
Seems like the new launch is due next month!....
This is what I found at propertyguru website while looking at Hedges Park listing under Condo section:
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/15133960/for-sale-hedges-park-condominium
Seems like the new launch is due next month!....
TOP 2015..?? sure anot the new launch
leftrightcentre
12-08-13, 18:02
Went to check on progress update yesterday. A little disappointed that not all blocks have reached #08. But I guess that that should not be long.
Was out of town for 2 weeks. I was told the weather has not been kind. Can see water puddles in the site too which might have slowed the progress? In any case, hopefully before the end of Sep we see all blocks at he full height!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130811/34C82015-CC3D-4B82-AC5D-A34934250EDF-6221-00000844ED80A327_zpsffa549de.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130811/F3419C3B-873E-4C67-87BF-B87DE134E63E-6221-00000844FDD7D9B3_zps2db3e37a.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130811/BA5C66D7-0F95-4F48-9E5A-5890FA209EED-6221-0000084509F908C4_zpsf5c71e0e.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130811/C41779D2-A8F8-441F-854F-C772136E458B-6221-00000845181ABBC1_zps056f603a.jpg
This is what I found at propertyguru website while looking at Hedges Park listing under Condo section:
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/15133960/for-sale-hedges-park-condominium
Seems like the new launch is due next month!....
Heard from unconfirmed sources that the new condo will be called I Park. Piling already commenced although sales have not started. Developer very optimistic.
Heard from unconfirmed sources that the new condo will be called I Park. Piling already commenced although sales have not started. Developer very optimistic.
This will be the real 'I' by the same developer, and 'I' for?
Went to check on progress update yesterday. A little disappointed that not all blocks have reached #08. But I guess that that should not be long.
Was out of town for 2 weeks. I was told the weather has not been kind. Can see water puddles in the site too which might have slowed the progress? In any case, hopefully before the end of Sep we see all blocks at he full height!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130811/34C82015-CC3D-4B82-AC5D-A34934250EDF-6221-00000844ED80A327_zpsffa549de.jpg
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http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130811/BA5C66D7-0F95-4F48-9E5A-5890FA209EED-6221-0000084509F908C4_zpsf5c71e0e.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130811/C41779D2-A8F8-441F-854F-C772136E458B-6221-00000845181ABBC1_zps056f603a.jpg
You are right, progress looks hardly different from what we posted together in the last update.
TOP 2015..?? sure anot the new launch
Indeed some news of IParc is out...99 years leasehold as I expected. Not surprising for the developer to choose to convert the freehold land to 99 years, as development charges for 99 years land is cheaper, which means the condo can be sold at a lower quantum. As for IParc's pricing, I expect the quantum to be similar to the other 3 leasehold condos, but for the unit sizes to be smaller, i.e. higher psf. the hint can be seen from here:
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/15223304/for-sale-iparc-at-flora-drive
a 2 bedder (2 bedrooms, 2 baths) is only 59 sq m?!?
good news to flora residents! :cheers4:
the empty plot of land next to ballota park that used to be a petrol station is being amended to commercial zone at long last!!
http://www.ura.gov.sg/dc/mp2008/text/r4-16aug13.html
the plot of land is about 1200 sq m, with a GFA of 1.4, which means a built-up area of about 1700 sq m, enough for a supermarket, food court, and maybe 3 or 4 shops. residents can look forward to added convenience within walking distance, which will certainly add value to their homes. i wonder if we can look forward to getting a cold storage, giant, ntuc (though there's a miserably small and inedequate one in the petrol kiosk), or sheng shiong? :D
leftrightcentre
16-08-13, 14:05
good news to flora residents! :cheers4:
the empty plot of land next to ballota park that used to be a petrol station is being amended to commercial zone at long last!!
http://www.ura.gov.sg/dc/mp2008/text/r4-16aug13.html
the plot of land is about 1200 sq m, with a GFA of 1.4, which means a built-up area of about 1700 sq m, enough for a supermarket, food court, and maybe 3 or 4 shops. residents can look forward to added convenience within walking distance, which will certainly add value to their homes. i wonder if we can look forward to getting a cold storage, giant, ntuc (though there's a miserably small and inedequate one in the petrol kiosk), or sheng shiong? :D
Fantastic! this is a piece of good news indeed. Anyone knows how to check who submitted that proposal?
Let's hope for a NTUC Finest/Xtra or Cold Storage. I reckon they can probably do a 2 storey Finest like in Marine Parade Central. Maybe can add a floor of 4-8 small eateries/restaurants like Cedele and the likes.
Fantastic! this is a piece of good news indeed. Anyone knows how to check who submitted that proposal?
Let's hope for a NTUC Finest/Xtra or Cold Storage. I reckon they can probably do a 2 storey Finest like in Marine Parade Central. Maybe can add a floor of 4-8 small eateries/restaurants like Cedele and the likes.
i think these proposals are inside jobs i.e. amendments made by URA through periodic reviews after gathering feedback from the public etc. but i did write in to URA before to make this suggestion, so maybe that contributed a little? yes a supermarket plus a few small eateries for variety will be great! one for coffeeshop fare, one for deli/bakery stuff, one cafe type, one subway type etc....yes that small piece of land can fit these in. Assuming my estimated 1700 sq m is correct, then maybe 900-1000 sq m for the supermarket, about 500-600 sq m to fit 6-7 eateries, and about 200 sq m for corridor/foyer space and utilities. of course i m jumping the gun :D
i think these proposals are inside jobs i.e. amendments made by URA through periodic reviews after gathering feedback from the public etc. but i did write in to URA before to make this suggestion, so maybe that contributed a little? yes a supermarket plus a few small eateries for variety will be great! one for coffeeshop fare, one for deli/bakery stuff, one cafe type, one subway type etc....yes that small piece of land can fit these in. Assuming my estimated 1700 sq m is correct, then maybe 900-1000 sq m for the supermarket, about 500-600 sq m to fit 6-7 eateries, and about 200 sq m for corridor/foyer space and utilities. of course i m jumping the gun :D
Why they allow GFA of only 1.4? 4 storeys max? Surely they can go higher right? The surrounding condominiums are easily 6-7 storeys high.
Why they allow GFA of only 1.4? 4 storeys max? Surely they can go higher right? The surrounding condominiums are easily 6-7 storeys high.
This land is on high ground compared with the neighbouring condos like Ballota. My guess is Security concern as the land is directly facing the prison.
Why they allow GFA of only 1.4? 4 storeys max? Surely they can go higher right? The surrounding condominiums are easily 6-7 storeys high.
This piece of land is on high ground compared with the neighbouring condos like Ballota. My guess therefore is a security concern as this land is facing the prison.
Just drove past tdy from Hedges to the plot of empty land. If by foot, it's one bus-stop away.
Btw, the land looks rather small. Hope can build higher to house more units.
HardcoreDude
17-08-13, 22:46
good news to flora residents! :cheers4:
the empty plot of land next to ballota park that used to be a petrol station is being amended to commercial zone at long last!!
http://www.ura.gov.sg/dc/mp2008/text/r4-16aug13.html
the plot of land is about 1200 sq m, with a GFA of 1.4, which means a built-up area of about 1700 sq m, enough for a supermarket, food court, and maybe 3 or 4 shops. residents can look forward to added convenience within walking distance, which will certainly add value to their homes. i wonder if we can look forward to getting a cold storage, giant, ntuc (though there's a miserably small and inedequate one in the petrol kiosk), or sheng shiong? :D
Great news indeed, thx for sharing bro!:cool-punk-headbange
still pending right?hope it can be proved soon
Great news indeed, thx for sharing bro!:cool-punk-headbange
still pending right?hope it can be proved soon
yes pending till 14th sep 13, after which it will be confirmed. this is ura's generic list of commercial use:
1. Offices
2. Mixed Uses (e.g. Office/Shopping/Cinema/ Hotel/Flat)
3. Convention/ Exhibition Centre
4. Commercial School
5. Bank
6. Market/Food Centre/Restaurant
7. Cinema
8. Entertainment
9. Foreign Trade Mission/Chancery
10. Hotel
11. Recreation Club
12. Medical suite
13. Clinic
however ura will disallow certain types of commercial uses out of this list (hotel, cinema anyone??). quote from ura: The developments in this zone are subject to controls on the type and quantum of commercial uses as determined by the competent authority.
though there won't be exact control on tenant types and we can't entirely rule out offices, commercial school and such, i hope common sense prevails and it won't be wasted on these when the land is so small and other resident needs are more pressing.
in terms of process, after the land use amendment, the land will be put out for sale, after which design and construction begins.
according to google map, this piece of land is 450 m away from hedges park's backgate, or a 5-6 minute walk.
yes pending till 14th sep 13, after which it will be confirmed. this is ura's generic list of commercial use:
1. Offices
2. Mixed Uses (e.g. Office/Shopping/Cinema/ Hotel/Flat)
3. Convention/ Exhibition Centre
4. Commercial School
5. Bank
6. Market/Food Centre/Restaurant
7. Cinema
8. Entertainment
9. Foreign Trade Mission/Chancery
10. Hotel
11. Recreation Club
12. Medical suite
13. Clinic
however ura will disallow certain types of commercial uses out of this list (hotel, cinema anyone??). quote from ura: The developments in this zone are subject to controls on the type and quantum of commercial uses as determined by the competent authority.
though there won't be exact control on tenant types and we can't entirely rule out offices, commercial school and such, i hope common sense prevails and it won't be wasted on these when the land is so small and other resident needs are more pressing.
in terms of process, after the land use amendment, the land will be put out for sale, after which design and construction begins.
according to google map, this piece of land is 450 m away from hedges park's backgate, or a 5-6 minute walk.
A few months ago I wrote to URA and suggested converting the land to a temporary car park and URA replied stating that the land is privately owned.
A few months ago I wrote to URA and suggested converting the land to a temporary car park and URA replied stating that the land is privately owned.
You can object to it by writing to the Permanent Secretary, Ministry of National Development, Maxwell Road, Singapore 069110, on or before the 14th day of September 2013, and shall state the grounds on which it is made, as required under Rule 5 of the Planning (Master Plan) Rules (R1).:D
HardcoreDude
19-08-13, 11:17
A few months ago I wrote to URA and suggested converting the land to a temporary car park and URA replied stating that the land is privately owned.
So does that mean the proposal was submitted by the owner of the land?
So does that mean the proposal was submitted by the owner of the land?
it used to be for a petrol station. can utilities land be privately owned? anyone knows? if that's true then no need to put up for tender. construction can commence sooner.
it used to be for a petrol station. can utilities land be privately owned? anyone knows? if that's true then no need to put up for tender. construction can commence sooner.
I will not be surprised if the land belongs to Tripartite / Hong Leong as they owned most of the land on which condos have been built at Flora Road / Flora Drive / Mariam road.
HardcoreDude
19-08-13, 12:44
I will not be surprised if the land belongs to Tripartite / Hong Leong as they owned most of the land on which condos have been built at Flora Road / Flora Drive / Mariam road.
Good news to me, so we can expect it to be ready sooner, within 2 years maybe?:cool-punk-headbange
leftrightcentre
19-08-13, 12:56
I will not be surprised if the land belongs to Tripartite / Hong Leong as they owned most of the land on which condos have been built at Flora Road / Flora Drive / Mariam road.
To my knowledge petrol stations are on state land leased out to individuals/petrol companies. If that holds true, then now that the site has been rezoned, URA/SLA might now put up the site for sale soon under the GLS. In any case, CDL's AR did not list that plot under their landbank so it more probably not owned by them.
Just found this: http://www.sla.gov.sg/htm/new/new2002/new0208.htm
Add this which seems interesting for a read later: http://www.mti.gov.sg/MTIInsights/Documents/app.mti.gov.sg/data/article/24863/doc/ESS1Q2011__FA.pdf
Petrol station operators are
nonetheless subject to urban planning by the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) and Singapore Land
Authority (SLA), competitive bidding of petrol station sites conducted by Housing Development Board
(HDB), safety rules by Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF), excise duty on petrol imposed by the
Singapore Customs (Customs), and indirectly, differential road taxes on petrol and diesel vehicles
imposed by the Land Transport Authority (LTA)8
.
Land premiums paid for retail petrol sites are
generally high because of site scarcity. The sites
planned for petrol station use are specified in the
URA Master Plan and tendered out by HDB.
Urban planning is necessary
The problem of land scarcity is inherent to Singapore. Therefore, careful urban planning is necessary. As
only a few new petrol station sites are available every year, this makes it more difficult for new players
to enter the market, with a critical scale of operations. However, it should be noted that land cost is not
a significant cost driver, as it accounts for only 5-10 per cent of total petrol price.
The site allocation mechanism is competitive
HDB operates an eBidding mechanism for the allocation of petrol station sites. There is no pre-screening
process to restrict the eligibility of bidders based on subjective criteria. The only substantial requirement
is an upfront deposit20. The bidding process is an open, anonymous and ascending auction. Such a
bidding process generally produces smaller increments between bids than, say, sealed-bid tenders21. In
particular, anonymity helps prevent bid-rigging between competitors. Sites are awarded to the highest
bidder. HDB has informed us that the petrol companies do compete aggressively for new sites.
We considered whether the lease term of 30 years for new petrol station sites have contributed to the
limited availability of new sites. However, we note that, in the context of land lease, 30 years is not long,
compared to typical residential land leases of 99 to 999 years, and commercial ones of 99 years. In any
case, the potential benefits of shorter lease terms are unclear, as each dollar invested would have to be
amortized faster, leading to a tighter payback period which may affect investment incentives.
HardcoreDude
19-08-13, 19:01
Project jewel to be built at changi airport- another good news to flora drive people?:cool-punk-headbange
leftrightcentre
19-08-13, 19:32
Project jewel to be built at changi airport- another good news to flora drive people?:cool-punk-headbange
I hope that with the relocation of PAB to Changi East we do not get much sonic booms.
I hope that with the relocation of PAB to Changi East we do not get much sonic booms.
don't worry. even if future PLAB is smack next to the current changi airport on the right, the distance is the same as the current PLAB to Tampines Central. I don't think Tampines Central experiences any sonic booms? besides, it will be T5 on the right of the current airport, which means PLAB will be on the right of T5, placing it even further away. many people are ignorant of the size of airports until they see them on google map. the current airport is as large as the whole of tampines and simei combined. size of T5 with its 3 new runways is going to be as large as T1-4 combined, which means another substantial buffer. so how to hear any noise at all?
looking at google map, it seems that the land east of changi airport is just enough to fit T5 and PLAB, with little land left over. just superimpose the current changi airport (to simulate the land required for T5) and PLAB over the vacant land and u will see i m right. this means the residential support for the more than doubled aviation staff (163000x2) will have to come from flora, upper changi east, tanah merah and east coast regions (with the aid of ERL), providing upside to housing rentals and prices.
changi airport jewel will create another huge lifestyle and entertainment hub in the region, with its huge glass dome encompassing a 3.5 hectare land designed by Moshe Safdie who designed marina bay sands, serving as a node connecting all 3 terminals:
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/changi-airport-s-project/781952.html
the whole of hedges park covers 3 hectares, so u can imagine how huge the dome will be. this will again add value to the region.
Today received the letter from developer, calling for next 10%, mine is level 5.
Received mine too... Just went down to the law firm and hand over the cheque
leftrightcentre
23-08-13, 11:02
This is the for RC Framework?
I hope that the next 4 milestones of 5% come like domino. Partition wall, roofing, internal, carpark. :)
This is the for RC Framework?
I hope that the next 4 milestones of 5% come like domino. Partition wall, roofing, internal, carpark. :)
Yes this is for RC framework. Hopefully next one will come soon.
leftrightcentre
25-08-13, 22:46
News for Pasir Ris but this is just a stone throw away for Flora residents, so still a plus.
SINGAPORE: Come 2015, Pasir Ris residents will have an upgraded waterfront right at their doorstep.
Deputy Prime Minister Teo Chee Hean officiated the groundbreaking ceremony for the water project on Sunday evening.
Located between Tampines Expressway and Pasir Ris Drive 3, the new waterway will have rain gardens as well as additional plantings.
Visitors can also expect signage about the flora and fauna which will be installed along the waterfront.
The upgrading is part of water agency PUB's Active, Beautiful, Clean Waters Programme to transform Singapore's water bodies.
Over 100 potential locations have been identified for implementation over the next 20 to 30 years.
Recently, went to have a look at the development.
Pretty good progress in my opinion. On a hot Saturday, works at full swing.
But cant help Feeling a little disappointed. seems that the distance from the pavement( newly opened road) is pretty near to 4/5/6th floor units. :scared-5:
For those who bought the lower floor units, Anyone has got tat same concern?
Recently, went to have a look at the development.
Pretty good progress in my opinion. On a hot Saturday, works at full swing.
But cant help Feeling a little disappointed. seems that the distance from the pavement( newly opened road) is pretty near to 4/5/6th floor units. :scared-5:
For those who bought the lower floor units, Anyone has got tat same concern?
did you buy a unit that is near or next to flora drive? it's not a concern at all if it's away from the road. 5th story is 2nd storey height looking from flora drive future condo entrance, and first story looking from upper changi road north, so 5th storey and above is above ground in all directions and ok in general. unless the unit is next to the road, in which case road noise will be direct.
leftrightcentre
28-08-13, 02:16
Sigh... I wanted a #07 unit but was too slow to the party. Ended up with a much lower floor that I think is at street level. I'll probably get the street noise and human views into my unit.
What I like in the area is the wide pavement outside Gale. Nice to jog, walk dog, stroll, privacy, less noise, etc.
It's e last few blocks. 66-65 etc Along e newly open road ( not sure e name of e road)
Seems tat e pavement is rather narrow & they seem pretty close to those few units .
These lower units will be near street level & with such close proximity . Privacy is my concern.
Was just a bit shocked cos wasn't expecting e distance to be that close.
Hopefully, after e fences is up, theyll covered them with greenery( as e name suggest "Hedges"Park) . This may provide more privacy to those units.
leftrightcentre
03-09-13, 18:43
Dropped by for a quick 5min progress check earlier.
Progress though rather muted but considered satisfactory.
The rear blocks (near substation) don't look much different from the last 2 updates, but the front blocks (near Upper Changi) have now all caught up. All the blocks are now similarly high; built up to #07 ceiling/#08 floor (where applicable).
Underneath the canvas/cover can see red brick walls up till #04/05 level. Perhaps the next 5% of partition walls for the lower floors would start calling soon.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130903/IMG_2080_zps3f890e30.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130903/IMG_2078_zpsdc1936db.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130903/IMG_2079_zps72919045.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130903/IMG_2077_zpsa35e61dd.jpg
Video: http://goo.gl/hSLuFE
HardcoreDude
15-09-13, 13:05
yes pending till 14th sep 13, after which it will be confirmed. this is ura's generic list of commercial use:
1. Offices
2. Mixed Uses (e.g. Office/Shopping/Cinema/ Hotel/Flat)
3. Convention/ Exhibition Centre
4. Commercial School
5. Bank
6. Market/Food Centre/Restaurant
7. Cinema
8. Entertainment
9. Foreign Trade Mission/Chancery
10. Hotel
11. Recreation Club
12. Medical suite
13. Clinic
however ura will disallow certain types of commercial uses out of this list (hotel, cinema anyone??). quote from ura: The developments in this zone are subject to controls on the type and quantum of commercial uses as determined by the competent authority.
though there won't be exact control on tenant types and we can't entirely rule out offices, commercial school and such, i hope common sense prevails and it won't be wasted on these when the land is so small and other resident needs are more pressing.
in terms of process, after the land use amendment, the land will be put out for sale, after which design and construction begins.
according to google map, this piece of land is 450 m away from hedges park's backgate, or a 5-6 minute walk.
Hey bro,so any news for proposal?
I've just joined the group & a hse buyer at Hedges Park . Wanna to hv a babminton court and the future land for sale site to hse some eatery . wat u guys suggest ?
newlaunchproperty
19-09-13, 01:57
I've just joined the group & a hse buyer at Hedges Park . Wanna to hv a babminton court and the future land for sale site to hse some eatery . wat u guys suggest ?
Congratz on your new purchase! :)
yes pending till 14th sep 13, after which it will be confirmed. this is ura's generic list of commercial use:
1. Offices
2. Mixed Uses (e.g. Office/Shopping/Cinema/ Hotel/Flat)
3. Convention/ Exhibition Centre
4. Commercial School
5. Bank
6. Market/Food Centre/Restaurant
7. Cinema
8. Entertainment
9. Foreign Trade Mission/Chancery
10. Hotel
11. Recreation Club
12. Medical suite
13. Clinic
however ura will disallow certain types of commercial uses out of this list (hotel, cinema anyone??). quote from ura: The developments in this zone are subject to controls on the type and quantum of commercial uses as determined by the competent authority.
though there won't be exact control on tenant types and we can't entirely rule out offices, commercial school and such, i hope common sense prevails and it won't be wasted on these when the land is so small and other resident needs are more pressing.
in terms of process, after the land use amendment, the land will be put out for sale, after which design and construction begins.
according to google map, this piece of land is 450 m away from hedges park's backgate, or a 5-6 minute walk.
Hi, Do you have any update on the usage of that piece of land? Thanks..:cutedoggy::cutedoggy:
Hey bro,so any news for proposal?
Hi HD and applefans. no updates yet. it will show on the list of approved amendments if it's approved over here:
http://www.ura.gov.sg/uol/DC/view-maps-plans/master-plans/list-approved-amendments/list-approved-amendments.aspx
Our neighbor "Inflora" looks ready to be launched in coming Oct.
More info can be seen available on the web now.
Hope the launch benefits all Hedges owners...
leftrightcentre
25-09-13, 10:44
The layout is pretty much similar to Hedges. But better utilisation of space as the bomb shelter like all new developments are in the common stairwell instead of within household. On paper slightly smaller but probably similar usable and sense of space. I think it'd be a value buy. For the same xBR might be lower quantum.
The appliances are all Duravit (same) and Whirlpool (unsure).
I like the main pool. Nice.
Hi all,
Any ideas if our new home comes with lift-key card access? Or all new condo projects come with this now?
Thank you in advance.
Cheers.
Hi all,
Just got a letter from my lawyer for the third installment 5%; Brick Walls/Partition Wall
Wishful TOP by mid next year
:)
Hi all,
Any ideas if our new home comes with lift-key card access? Or all new condo projects come with this now?
Thank you in advance.
Cheers.
Hi EK@East, I've visited Edelweiss and Ferraria and both have lift-key card access. I am assuming it will be the same for Hedges Park since it is from the same developer?
Hi all,
Just got a letter from my lawyer for the third installment 5%; Brick Walls/Partition Wall
Wishful TOP by mid next year
:)
Hi mka,
Can I know which floor are u at??
leftrightcentre
27-09-13, 11:26
Seems like it is on track with my guesstimation. :)
Let's see how far the progress would deviate from my guess-timation.
2013 Mar - #03 completed, >50% #04 + some #05 under construction
2013 Apr - #04 completed, >50% #05 under construction
2013 May - #05 completed
2013 Jun - #06 completed, start calling for next 10% for RC, start constructing external walls for lower levels << matched
2013 Jul - #07 completed
2013 Aug - #08 completed
2013 Sep - start building entrance/function room, all external walls constructed
2013 Oct - start calling for next 5% brick walls << matched
2013 Nov -
2013 Dec - external paintwork completed
2014 Jan - start building pools and roads, start calling for next 5% ceiling/roof
2014 Feb -
2014 Mar - start mounting aircon compressor
2014 Apr - start calling for next 5% elec+plumbling
2014 May -
2014 Jun - start planting greenery
2014 Jul - start calling for next 5% carpark/road/drains
2014 Aug -
2014 Sep -
2014 Oct - start calling for TOP (next 25%)
2014 Nov
2014 Dec
...
2015 Jun - CSC, start calling for final 15%
Hi mka,
Can I know which floor are u at??
Hi Oceanfly,
Mine at ground floor. #02
;)
Hi Oceanfly,
Mine at ground floor. #02
;)
Thanks Mka. Mine at #07, hopefully they will call by end October:))
Came across this forum recently. Glad to see the discussions on Hedges Park. Very informative!
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leftrightcentre
30-09-13, 13:44
Progress check yesterday evening. Progress not apparent. Some brick walls are cemented (up to #04 main pool block). Guess these are the units calling for 5%?
Blk 73. #02 to #04 have their unit internal partition brick walls plastered with cement already. #05 still at bare brick walls stage. #06 and up brick walls in progress.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130929/IMG_2328_zps91e3b0de.jpg
Blk 81 stack 34. Brick walls up to #06, but this is the exterior of the block. Guess this needs to be plastered first before the internal partition walls are built?
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020130929/IMG_2329_zps80ee8be8.jpg
I'm eagerly waiting for my unit to have the next 5% called in 2-3 weeks time!
LRC,
Thanks for the updates as always. Progression has been kind of slow of late, or perhaps I am too eager to see it ready.
Cheers...
leftrightcentre
01-10-13, 12:14
LRC,
Thanks for the updates as always. Progression has been kind of slow of late, or perhaps I am too eager to see it ready.
Cheers...
I have the same feeling... :(
I guess/hope that the construction is at a stage where the progress are internals where we can't see readily.
I hope that the next visual progress is where the scaffold are dismantled, windows mounted, then facade painted for the subsequent 5% after the internal walls.
Afterwhich I thought progress might be able to dual track - one within blocks working in roof/ceiling, wiring/plumbing, and the other on roads/drains/carpark and landscaping.
I have the same feeling... :(
I guess/hope that the construction is at a stage where the progress are internals where we can't see readily.
I hope that the next visual progress is where the scaffold are dismantled, windows mounted, then facade painted for the subsequent 5% after the internal walls.
Afterwhich I thought progress might be able to dual track - one within blocks working in roof/ceiling, wiring/plumbing, and the other on roads/drains/carpark and landscaping.
in fact some window frames have already been mounted on the 2nd and 3rd storeys. also saw pipe works going on on the lower floors.
btw saw some agents camping outside the inflora showflat beside the road under a filmsy tent :D
leftrightcentre
16-10-13, 17:11
There was a MOM stop work order imposed on Lian Beng for Hedges between 28-30 Aug...
See s/n 65. http://www.mom.gov.sg/Documents/safety-health/reports-stats/Stop%20Work%20Orders.pdf
hedgesalvin
17-10-13, 21:20
Hi future neighbours,
do your have the feeling that progress at HP seems to be getting slower? My unit is on the top floor, and i still have not received the call for 2nd 10% payment. I'm doubtful whether the project can really complete in sept n:eek:ext year.
HardcoreDude
31-10-13, 10:50
Hi future neighbours,
do your have the feeling that progress at HP seems to be getting slower? My unit is on the top floor, and i still have not received the call for 2nd 10% payment. I'm doubtful whether the project can really complete in sept n:eek:ext year.
I just received the 2nd 10% payment notice from law firm, and my one is top floor also
I just received the 2nd 10% payment notice from law firm, and my one is top floor also
Concrete walls completed. I have received my next 5% notice.
I just received the 2nd 10% payment notice from law firm, and my one is top floor also
Mine is at top floor too and I am eagerly waiting to pay my 4th 10%.
BTW, no further updates on installing a balcony cover or something for the 8th floor units?
leftrightcentre
03-11-13, 22:54
Went for monthly progress check earlier today. All blocks are at full height. The last of the 10% should be calling soon.
A month back some #02 had the 5% for reinforce wall called. Alas mine is yet to be called. I hope mine would be called in Nov! Was hoping that we can start moving in within 12 months from now!
The blocks are all pretty much covered up. Can't wait for the scaffold to be removed. Let's hope for a nice CNY present!
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020131103/IMG_2697_zpsf241908b.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020131103/IMG_2698_zps9aef5f0f.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020131103/IMG_2699_zpsbd0749e3.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020131103/IMG_2700_zps71f86436.jpg
The Marina Pool:
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020131103/IMG_2701_zpsb663ce4b.jpg
Main Pool:
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020131103/IMG_2702_zpse4e107e1.jpg
Club House:
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020131103/IMG_2703_zps4f66f0d6.jpg
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/dunspamme/Hedges%20Progress/Progress%2020131103/IMG_2704_zpsd848c535.jpg
HardcoreDude
04-11-13, 11:16
Went for monthly progress check earlier today. All blocks are at full height. The last of the 10% should be calling soon.
A month back some #02 had the 5% for reinforce wall called. Alas mine is yet to be called. I hope mine would be called in Nov! Was hoping that we can start moving in within 12 months from now!
The blocks are all pretty much covered up. Can't wait for the scaffold to be removed. Let's hope for a nice CNY present!
Thank you for your updates bro:cool-punk-headbange
Frnds, what impact do you forsee on HP resale pricing basis the recent Inflora launch.
I am a bit disappointed with low psf pricing of Inflora not crossing 1000 psf mark. Do we see this as a new trend setter marking the future launches at even lower prices?
Your opinion pls.....
Best rgds, Gull
Frnds, what impact do you forsee on HP resale pricing basis the recent Inflora launch.
I am a bit disappointed with low psf pricing of Inflora not crossing 1000 psf mark. Do we see this as a new trend setter marking the future launches at even lower prices?
Your opinion pls.....
Best rgds, Gull
Hi Gull,
I have the similar concern initially. However, if u look into the prices of Inflora, it isn't exactly CHEAP as most claimed to be.
Was at the show-flat ytdy, left 4 units, all ground floor units with no view (PSF ard $880), except one with corner pool view ($901 psf). Cheap? Not really. Also, the units, though with better layout, are smaller.
Be confident of HP. Be it for own stay or investment purpose, trust the capital appreciation potential is there. And HP has facilities in which none of the Flora projects have.
Just my two cents worth.
feel it's too hot with the green cloth, take off soon soon soon!:cutedoggy:
I sent a query to ura regarding the status of the nearby plot of land to be amended to commercial zone and this is the reply:
We refer to your feedback dated 04 November 2013.
The plot of land that you are referring to is a private land. We are prepared to support the rezoning of the land to Commercial zone to allow for development of some shops. However, the developer has yet to sought for approval for the rezoning of the land.
Thank you for your feedback.
Apparently it is now in the developer's hands to decide when to build a commercial space here, as ura will support it once the developer comes up with a proposal. Who is the developer anyway?
Hi Guys,
I've a question regarding the parking lot, each household entitled with 1 parking lot, what if I don't have a car but I've a bicycle? can I put my bike there?
btw it stated all apartment are equipped with cat 6 wiring, isn't cat 6 is a cooper type not a fibre?
btw it stated all apartment are equipped with cat 6 wiring, isn't cat 6 is a cooper type not a fibre?
Fibre is to the Fibre point. After that you will still need copper cables to connect to routers, modems, computers, etc.
leftrightcentre
11-11-13, 00:16
Hi Gull,
I have the similar concern initially. However, if u look into the prices of Inflora, it isn't exactly CHEAP as most claimed to be.
Was at the show-flat ytdy, left 4 units, all ground floor units with no view (PSF ard $880), except one with corner pool view ($901 psf). Cheap? Not really. Also, the units, though with better layout, are smaller.
Be confident of HP. Be it for own stay or investment purpose, trust the capital appreciation potential is there. And HP has facilities in which none of the Flora projects have.
Just my two cents worth.
I think the price is attractive, and cheap by today's market rates. The price had gone up by 10% after VIP ballot, the price for most would be that much lower.
Like for like comparison with Hedges, the psf is lower.
Plus points for inFlora: No indoors bomb shelter so more "usable" space without the space wasting thick walls and can now be knocked down for better visual perception of space. Smaller paper size but similar functional size so quantum is lower. Higher ceiling of 2.9m vs 2.8m for Hedges. If I remember correctly, the marble tiles are "matt" finishing that is easier to maintain compared to glossy type of Hedges. More exclusive site that is not open to public view, and shielded from road noise.
For the above, I think the price is reasonable and attractive. If I didn't have my Hedges I would have gone for inFlora, and a larger unit that is more liveable.
HL/CDL/TID has played this very nicely and I personally look positively towards them. They could have priced it higher say 1-1.1k psf and see very decent sales too but they were rational and not "commercially greedy". I am inclined to think that the construction and build quality would be decent and not pure profit driven to squeeze the lowest cost out of the project. Let's hope for the best!
I bought for own stay so isn't too concern about the price swings in the short term. But considering that the area is nearly going to be fully built up, I can probably see it as the estate maturing for full price appreciation going forward.
I sent a query to ura regarding the status of the nearby plot of land to be amended to commercial zone and this is the reply:
We refer to your feedback dated 04 November 2013.
The plot of land that you are referring to is a private land. We are prepared to support the rezoning of the land to Commercial zone to allow for development of some shops. However, the developer has yet to sought for approval for the rezoning of the land.
Thank you for your feedback.
Apparently it is now in the developer's hands to decide when to build a commercial space here, as ura will support it once the developer comes up with a proposal. Who is the developer anyway?
may i know which land is this, the one next to inflora?
It seems like the 3 project launch later then hedges park never benefit hedges park at all didn't push up the price . And some more launch in a cheap price . :doh: . Sad to see that
It seems like the 3 project launch later then hedges park never benefit hedges park at all didn't push up the price . And some more launch in a cheap price . :doh: . Sad to see that
anyway, from inflora launch, we already know the bottom price for flora drive
may i know which land is this, the one next to inflora?
no. it's the piece of empty land next to Ballota Park along upper changi road north, opposite changi prison visitor's centre.
[QUOTE=leftrightcentre;444495]I think the price is attractive, and cheap by today's market rates. The price had gone up by 10% after VIP ballot, the price for most would be that much lower.
Like for like comparison with Hedges, the psf is lower.
Plus points for inFlora: No indoors bomb shelter so more "usable" space without the space wasting thick walls and can now be knocked down for better visual perception of space. Smaller paper size but similar functional size so quantum is lower. Higher ceiling of 2.9m vs 2.8m for Hedges. If I remember correctly, the marble tiles are "matt" finishing that is easier to maintain compared to glossy type of Hedges. More exclusive site that is not open to public view, and shielded from road noise.
Lol why so negative. In fact many of your points are debatable:
1) I went down to inflora to kaypoh, and compared the price of it's 2+1 bedder with hedge's larger 2 bedder. both are the same size (72sm+4sm ac ledge for inflora and 72sm+2 sm ac ledge for hedges). to do a very fair comparison, both units i compared are exact same size, direct pool facing, same floor and away from any road noise. guess what? hedges price is 713k, whereas i was quoted 820k for inflora! assuming 820k is the price after 2% increase on the 2nd day of preview, it would still have sold for 804k on the first day.
2) while it's true bomb shelter can't be torn down for more visual space, but likewise owners of units without storerooms will be hard pressed to erect one for storage space. note how little storage space inflora actually has.
3) as for bomb shelter's thick walls, note that they serve as structural walls, and as a result the rest of the unit's walls are mostly very thin. because inflora doesn't have bomb shelters to serve as core structural walls, thick structural walls are distributed throughout the unit. take look at inflora's floor plan n u will see. in the end the amt of thick walls is around the same.
4) inflora's actual ceiling height is 2.8m, not 2.9m as stated on the internet. makes sense as all other condos in flora region is 2.8m (except parc olympia at 2.7m). any higher and the roof line will not align with the surrounding condos (edelweiss and hedges)
5) more exclusive, but will be fully encroached by condos in all four directions next time. i like how hedges is open on one end to the japanese school's large open field. also inflora is more inaccessible with no public transport.
6) notice also how large inflora's balconies are, esp for the 2+1 and smaller. 9 sq m for the 2 bedders is quite disproportionate. i m quite ok with that, except that due to the alternating balcony design, about 1 sq m of the balcony is open to the sky. coupled with the grill-like railings (v.s. hedge's glass railing), it's impossible to keep out the elements and make it an extension of the living room space.
so in conclusion, hedges is still a good buy. don't listen to hearsay unsupported by facts and disregarding the finer details. if want to compare price between 2 developments, must always compare between 2 directly equivalent units. last time hedges's 2nd floor 71 sq m 2 bedders next to substation and bin centre sold at 600k on the first day. any such pricing for an equivalent unit in inflora?
[QUOTE=leftrightcentre;444495]I think the price is attractive, and cheap by today's market rates. The price had gone up by 10% after VIP ballot, the price for most would be that much lower.
Like for like comparison with Hedges, the psf is lower.
Plus points for inFlora: No indoors bomb shelter so more "usable" space without the space wasting thick walls and can now be knocked down for better visual perception of space. Smaller paper size but similar functional size so quantum is lower. Higher ceiling of 2.9m vs 2.8m for Hedges. If I remember correctly, the marble tiles are "matt" finishing that is easier to maintain compared to glossy type of Hedges. More exclusive site that is not open to public view, and shielded from road noise.
Lol why so negative. In fact many of your points are debatable:
1) I went down to inflora to kaypoh, and compared the price of it's 2+1 bedder with hedge's larger 2 bedder. both are the same size (72sm+4sm ac ledge for inflora and 72sm+2 sm ac ledge for hedges). to do a very fair comparison, both units i compared are exact same size, direct pool facing, same floor and away from any road noise. guess what? hedges price is 713k, whereas i was quoted 820k for inflora! assuming 820k is the price after 2% increase on the 2nd day of preview, it would still have sold for 804k on the first day.
2) while it's true bomb shelter can't be torn down for more visual space, but likewise owners of units without storerooms will be hard pressed to erect one for storage space. note how little storage space inflora actually has.
3) as for bomb shelter's thick walls, note that they serve as structural walls, and as a result the rest of the unit's walls are mostly very thin. because inflora doesn't have bomb shelters to serve as core structural walls, thick structural walls are distributed throughout the unit. take look at inflora's floor plan n u will see. in the end the amt of thick walls is around the same.
4) inflora's actual ceiling height is 2.8m, not 2.9m as stated on the internet. makes sense as all other condos in flora region is 2.8m (except parc olympia at 2.7m). any higher and the roof line will not align with the surrounding condos (edelweiss and hedges)
5) more exclusive, but will be fully encroached by condos in all four directions next time. i like how hedges is open on one end to the japanese school's large open field. also inflora is more inaccessible with no public transport.
6) notice also how large inflora's balconies are, esp for the 2+1 and smaller. 9 sq m for the 2 bedders is quite disproportionate. i m quite ok with that, except that due to the alternating balcony design, about 1 sq m of the balcony is open to the sky. coupled with the grill-like railings (v.s. hedge's glass railing), it's impossible to keep out the elements and make it an extension of the living room space.
so in conclusion, hedges is still a good buy. don't listen to hearsay unsupported by facts and disregarding the finer details. if want to compare price between 2 developments, must always compare between 2 directly equivalent units. last time hedges's 2nd floor 71 sq m 2 bedders next to substation and bin centre sold at 600k on the first day. any such pricing for an equivalent unit in inflora?
Haha, I concurred with gav108 on his analysis. To add on, also look at Hedges' facilities as compared to Inflora. How to fight?
In case some of you have forgotten, Hedges has a lift to the side gate which leads to a bus-stop along Upp Changi Rd North, one of the reasons why my wife really like Hedges.
Hedges rocks...
leftrightcentre
12-11-13, 23:45
[QUOTE=leftrightcentre;444495]I think the price is attractive, and cheap by today's market rates. The price had gone up by 10% after VIP ballot, the price for most would be that much lower.
Like for like comparison with Hedges, the psf is lower.
Plus points for inFlora: No indoors bomb shelter so more "usable" space without the space wasting thick walls and can now be knocked down for better visual perception of space. Smaller paper size but similar functional size so quantum is lower. Higher ceiling of 2.9m vs 2.8m for Hedges. If I remember correctly, the marble tiles are "matt" finishing that is easier to maintain compared to glossy type of Hedges. More exclusive site that is not open to public view, and shielded from road noise.
Lol why so negative. In fact many of your points are debatable:
1) I went down to inflora to kaypoh, and compared the price of it's 2+1 bedder with hedge's larger 2 bedder. both are the same size (72sm+4sm ac ledge for inflora and 72sm+2 sm ac ledge for hedges). to do a very fair comparison, both units i compared are exact same size, direct pool facing, same floor and away from any road noise. guess what? hedges price is 713k, whereas i was quoted 820k for inflora! assuming 820k is the price after 2% increase on the 2nd day of preview, it would still have sold for 804k on the first day.
2) while it's true bomb shelter can't be torn down for more visual space, but likewise owners of units without storerooms will be hard pressed to erect one for storage space. note how little storage space inflora actually has.
3) as for bomb shelter's thick walls, note that they serve as structural walls, and as a result the rest of the unit's walls are mostly very thin. because inflora doesn't have bomb shelters to serve as core structural walls, thick structural walls are distributed throughout the unit. take look at inflora's floor plan n u will see. in the end the amt of thick walls is around the same.
4) inflora's actual ceiling height is 2.8m, not 2.9m as stated on the internet. makes sense as all other condos in flora region is 2.8m (except parc olympia at 2.7m). any higher and the roof line will not align with the surrounding condos (edelweiss and hedges)
5) more exclusive, but will be fully encroached by condos in all four directions next time. i like how hedges is open on one end to the japanese school's large open field. also inflora is more inaccessible with no public transport.
6) notice also how large inflora's balconies are, esp for the 2+1 and smaller. 9 sq m for the 2 bedders is quite disproportionate. i m quite ok with that, except that due to the alternating balcony design, about 1 sq m of the balcony is open to the sky. coupled with the grill-like railings (v.s. hedge's glass railing), it's impossible to keep out the elements and make it an extension of the living room space.
so in conclusion, hedges is still a good buy. don't listen to hearsay unsupported by facts and disregarding the finer details. if want to compare price between 2 developments, must always compare between 2 directly equivalent units. last time hedges's 2nd floor 71 sq m 2 bedders next to substation and bin centre sold at 600k on the first day. any such pricing for an equivalent unit in inflora?
Nah, I'm not negative. Just being objective on the advantages inFlora has over Hedges. Of course Hedges has it share of pluses over inFlora that I didn't mention. Overall, I still prefer Hedges. Would have been better if I didn't miss my preferred unit... Haiz...
You compared based on gross floor space, I was loosely comparing based on unit type i.e. 2BR to 2BR. My gut feel is the "net" floor space is similar and bordering negligible? Only a room-to-room size comparison can reveal. I would say my main concern would be the MBR, BR2, followed by living+dining and finally kitchen (not including household shelter). Afterall, these are the spaces that we/I generally use. Slightly smaller balcony, bath, doorway I'm not too concerned.
Regardless, each development is unique and the value is more art than science. Human sentiments plays more part than the blueprint. I am more than happy if the value of Hedges goes up but being my only property, I wouldn't be able to have any real benefit since buying another place to stay would be similarly higher as well.
Probably Gale has the best value in the area? Smaller community, modern design, freehold, low (relative) psf, etc.
just wondering if hedges park have another exit , especially if it's in between edelweiss and hedges park? Think it's quite a distance to walk to the bus via the main entrance..
[QUOTE=gav108;444643]
Nah, I'm not negative. Just being objective on the advantages inFlora has over Hedges. Of course Hedges has it share of pluses over inFlora that I didn't mention. Overall, I still prefer Hedges. Would have been better if I didn't miss my preferred unit... Haiz...
You compared based on gross floor space, I was loosely comparing based on unit type i.e. 2BR to 2BR. My gut feel is the "net" floor space is similar and bordering negligible? Only a room-to-room size comparison can reveal. I would say my main concern would be the MBR, BR2, followed by living+dining and finally kitchen (not including household shelter). Afterall, these are the spaces that we/I generally use. Slightly smaller balcony, bath, doorway I'm not too concerned.
Regardless, each development is unique and the value is more art than science. Human sentiments plays more part than the blueprint. I am more than happy if the value of Hedges goes up but being my only property, I wouldn't be able to have any real benefit since buying another place to stay would be similarly higher as well.
Probably Gale has the best value in the area? Smaller community, modern design, freehold, low (relative) psf, etc.
i see. essentially the 2 bedders of hedges is bigger than inflora's by abt one bomb shelter. if u find that extra storage space redundant, then inflora is your choice. for me, even as a single, i find extra storage space indispensable. as for room-to-room size comparison, that's what i did since the plans are drawn to scale. (multiply hedge's floor plan dimensions by 11.1% for the 2 bedders). inflora's 2nd bedroom is definitely bigger, but that's at the expense of living room space, which can't even fit a 3 seater anymore. personally i don't know if i can make that compromise. if balcony space is hardly used, then having a huge balcony space should be a concern as it will be a waste of space that could have been allocated to other areas (hedges 6 sm vs inflora 9 sm for 2 bedders).
but enough with the nitty gritty. bottomline - quantum has perhaps maintained or increased slightly for the same type of unit e.g. 2 bedder vs 2 bedder, but floor size has shrunken once more. i would obviously prefer to pay the same price or less for a bigger unit. :D
just wondering if hedges park have another exit , especially if it's in between edelweiss and hedges park? Think it's quite a distance to walk to the bus via the main entrance..
yes it does. back gate opens up directly in front of a bustop along upper changi road north with buses 2 and 5, and bus 4 across the road
Fibre is to the Fibre point. After that you will still need copper cables to connect to routers, modems, computers, etc.
ok so no fibre termination point will be installed in the hedges park....
the next question is HP NGNBN ready?
[QUOTE=leftrightcentre;444495]I think the price is attractive, and cheap by today's market rates. The price had gone up by 10% after VIP ballot, the price for most would be that much lower.
Like for like comparison with Hedges, the psf is lower.
Plus points for inFlora: No indoors bomb shelter so more "usable" space without the space wasting thick walls and can now be knocked down for better visual perception of space. Smaller paper size but similar functional size so quantum is lower. Higher ceiling of 2.9m vs 2.8m for Hedges. If I remember correctly, the marble tiles are "matt" finishing that is easier to maintain compared to glossy type of Hedges. More exclusive site that is not open to public view, and shielded from road noise.
Lol why so negative. In fact many of your points are debatable:
1) I went down to inflora to kaypoh, and compared the price of it's 2+1 bedder with hedge's larger 2 bedder. both are the same size (72sm+4sm ac ledge for inflora and 72sm+2 sm ac ledge for hedges). to do a very fair comparison, both units i compared are exact same size, direct pool facing, same floor and away from any road noise. guess what? hedges price is 713k, whereas i was quoted 820k for inflora! assuming 820k is the price after 2% increase on the 2nd day of preview, it would still have sold for 804k on the first day.
2) while it's true bomb shelter can't be torn down for more visual space, but likewise owners of units without storerooms will be hard pressed to erect one for storage space. note how little storage space inflora actually has.
3) as for bomb shelter's thick walls, note that they serve as structural walls, and as a result the rest of the unit's walls are mostly very thin. because inflora doesn't have bomb shelters to serve as core structural walls, thick structural walls are distributed throughout the unit. take look at inflora's floor plan n u will see. in the end the amt of thick walls is around the same.
4) inflora's actual ceiling height is 2.8m, not 2.9m as stated on the internet. makes sense as all other condos in flora region is 2.8m (except parc olympia at 2.7m). any higher and the roof line will not align with the surrounding condos (edelweiss and hedges)
5) more exclusive, but will be fully encroached by condos in all four directions next time. i like how hedges is open on one end to the japanese school's large open field. also inflora is more inaccessible with no public transport.
6) notice also how large inflora's balconies are, esp for the 2+1 and smaller. 9 sq m for the 2 bedders is quite disproportionate. i m quite ok with that, except that due to the alternating balcony design, about 1 sq m of the balcony is open to the sky. coupled with the grill-like railings (v.s. hedge's glass railing), it's impossible to keep out the elements and make it an extension of the living room space.
so in conclusion, hedges is still a good buy. don't listen to hearsay unsupported by facts and disregarding the finer details. if want to compare price between 2 developments, must always compare between 2 directly equivalent units. last time hedges's 2nd floor 71 sq m 2 bedders next to substation and bin centre sold at 600k on the first day. any such pricing for an equivalent unit in inflora?
Iinflora owner here,just wanted to give my fair opinion to the matter, not here to stir up a fight :)
1. Same size but extra room (even study) will give an edge in the resell market. Bomb shelter and utility room was never a selling point thus no surprise to see it's being removed from most new launch.
3. Make sure thick wall is between unit else you will hear everyhting your neighbour saids, and like wise
4. Inflora ceiling heights is 2.9m
6. I am glad Inflora is not using glass railing, there are reported cases that the glass railing shatter in some condo, not too difficult to search in this forum. Anyway,I intend to turn the balcony area to dinning area together with some plants..
Basically no point to argue.. coz both launch at different timing, plus, we can't change the layout but to accept the way it is. Unless, if we are looking at resell point of view..
leftrightcentre
13-11-13, 16:38
ok so no fibre termination point will be installed in the hedges park....
the next question is HP NGNBN ready?
This was discussed earlier in the thread. You may want to review.
NGNBN is a statutory requirement. Hedges plan was approved before NGNBN became a must so it was not included in the design unlike the newer projects. However, the development MUST still provide for NGNBN.
This means that either the developer work with OpenNet now to allow the landing points to be built and hence concealed along with the construction, or the developer transfers this obligation to the MCST after it hands over. The MCST must then facilitate the NGNBN infrastructure.
Naturally, the best is for the developer to handle this since they can at the pre-built stage allocation the distribution boxes and lay the optics into each unit and nicely concealed along with other wiring. If the MCST is to do it, then we would not only get ugly trunking along the exterior of the units, but also in the unit.
In short, some of us have asked the agent but not definite answer. Maybe we can each ask our lawyers to get the answer from the developer, or we collectively ask the developer to provide an answer.
[QUOTE=gav108;444643]
Iinflora owner here,just wanted to give my fair opinion to the matter, not here to stir up a fight :)
1. Same size but extra room (even study) will give an edge in the resell market. Bomb shelter and utility room was never a selling point thus no surprise to see it's being removed from most new launch.
3. Make sure thick wall is between unit else you will hear everyhting your neighbour saids, and like wise
4. Inflora ceiling heights is 2.9m
6. I am glad Inflora is not using glass railing, there are reported cases that the glass railing shatter in some condo, not too difficult to search in this forum. Anyway,I intend to turn the balcony area to dinning area together with some plants..
Basically no point to argue.. coz both launch at different timing, plus, we can't change the layout but to accept the way it is. Unless, if we are looking at resell point of view..
sorry hope it doesn't sound offensive or putting down inflora. i m just trying to refute the notion that prices have not moved in this region in the last 2 years, which will be disastrous for all flora owners. in fact the gale's 2 bedders were sold at around the same quantum as hedges and inflora's 2 bedders when it was launched. does that mean that price has not moved since then? to determine price appreciation floor size (excluding ac ledge and assigning half value for planters and bay windows) and psf will provide a better gauge.
i remember gale owners clapping in glee when hedges was launched. :rolleyes:
fair enough, as i would also have bought it's 2 bedders over hedges' for the larger size and freehold status, though it also has the same no. of functional spaces (never mind that it only has bus 4, diagonally from a temple, has lots of bay windows and front road drives up directly to the prison visitor's centre...blah blah). the reason is simple - the larger space will allow me to store more things and have more sitting spaces.
hedge's 2 bedders is like a 2+1, the +1 being the household shelter. the agent suggested to me that the shelter can also be used as a study :eek: but i read that some people really do it by conditioning and furnishing the room. for me it will be a wonderful place for my bulky items (luggage, pail, vacuum cleaner, ladder, winter wear etc.), a wine cellar, larder, or even a hobby display room for my toys away from dust;) so far lovers and haters of storerooms seem evenly matched depending on needs and preferences.
walls between units are always thicker at around 20 cm standard, with or without bomb shelters. structural walls or columns, which are thicker than that, only occurs at strategic points depending on the load bearing points of the building. reflections at keppel bay has super fat columns literally running through the floor plan due to its great height, but it's a fantastic development and how i wish i can afford it :p
inflora agent told me the ceiling height is 2.8 m, and it felt the same as my current condo, which is also 2.8m. perhaps 2.9m is floor to ceiling, excluding the floor screed and marble tiling? anyway no issues here.
as mentioned, i have no issues with balconies, and it's a great idea to use it for dining space. for inflora, unless u r getting the 1 bedder or top floors, part of the balcony ceiling will be open to the sky, so it might be hard to dine if it rains. i would suggest using it only for optional outdoor dining.
there r nice things i like about inflora:
1) very nice master bath with lots of marble and rain shower! definitely better than hedges'.
2) very good distance block to block for units facing lap pool, definitely better than hedge's block to block.
3) bigger size for 2nd bedroom.
4) secret enclave feeling with nice landscaping and shelters with flora motifs.
in fact my family was tempted to get a unit here after looking at the beautiful show flats, but in the end decided not to mainly due to the public transport factor. hopefully public transport will be available with commercial shops when flora drive reaches critical mass.
bottomline - inflora is a beautiful development and should appreciate in value over time with the rest. sorry for the long posts. 2 days leave n boredom sets in. cheers!:)
Comparison is endless.
And I believed we have bought whichever property we liked.
Looking forward to TOP :p
Comparison is endless.
And I believed we have bought whichever property we liked.
Looking forward to TOP :p
I agree... just be contented with what we have... :)
[QUOTE=Roarrrr;445186]Comparison is endless.
And I believed we have bought whichever property we liked.
Looking forward to TOP :p[/
True
Comparison is endless.
And I believed we have bought whichever property we liked.
Looking forward to TOP :p
true true true...just mental exercise to fill boredom. the fact that inflora is sold out so fast (balloting some more :eek:) bodes well for the flora region. over in redhill alex residences is selling cheaper than the earlier launch echelon psf wise it seems...
true true true...just mental exercise to fill boredom. the fact that inflora is sold out so fast (balloting some more :eek:) bodes well for the flora region. over in redhill alex residences is selling cheaper than the earlier launch echelon psf wise it seems...
Thums up for you seems like you really study thoroughly for inflora ,gotta admit that Hedges park is definitely a good buy and there are many plus points why I like Hedges park .. however, it seems that inflora is the only best choice for me at the moment. For the same quantum, I will never trade off a 2+1 unit with a studio in a so-called better location ( jurong g**teway if you know what i mean :))) ).
Not to mention that we are gonna be neighbor in years to come , we could made flora drive a dream place to stay ! For start, we as in the inflora dwellers are currently discussing to demand LTA introduce bus @ flora drive as well as expanding the road. If we could gather voices across other flora drive residences we might have made our voices louder to LTA, what do u guys think?
Thums up for you seems like you really study thoroughly for inflora ,gotta admit that Hedges park is definitely a good buy and there are many plus points why I like Hedges park .. however, it seems that inflora is the only best choice for me at the moment. For the same quantum, I will never trade off a 2+1 unit with a studio in a so-called better location ( jurong g**teway if you know what i mean :))) ).
Not to mention that we are gonna be neighbor in years to come , we could made flora drive a dream place to stay ! For start, we as in the inflora dwellers are currently discussing to demand LTA introduce bus @ flora drive as well as expanding the road. If we could gather voices across other flora drive residences we might have made our voices louder to LTA, what do u guys think?
I didn't think so much :D
And honestly am very happy with the current environment. I bought this place because it's "quiet" & " private" enough.
Are u referring to the new road running through ( HP on left, Parc olympia on right ?)
If the new road ( flora drive ) starts to get busy with buses, then I am afraid, it may spoil the tranquility of the place. Those who are living at the lower floors bear most of the brunt of "noise".
Unless you are referring to adding more new bus lines at the existing main roads bus stops . Then that's a really good idea.
I passed by the new road many times day/night, and traffic is non stop flowing. Can't imagine if there's buses passing through :D
And talks of expanding the roads may end up encroaching the pavements . Which in my opinion isn't that ideal.
With a narrower pavement, residents on the lower floors along the pavements will suffer with curious stares into their house. Constant human traffic / louder "noise"/ less privacy.
Just my honest opinions ;) I still like it tranquility for now
I didn't think so much :D
And honestly am very happy with the current environment. I bought this place because it's "quiet" & " private" enough.
Are u referring to the new road running through ( HP on left, Parc olympia on right ?)
If the new road ( flora drive ) starts to get busy with buses, then I am afraid, it may spoil the tranquility of the place. Those who are living at the lower floors bear most of the brunt of "noise".
Unless you are referring to adding more new bus lines at the existing main roads bus stops . Then that's a really good idea.
I passed by the new road many times day/night, and traffic is non stop flowing. Can't imagine if there's buses passing through :D
And talks of expanding the roads may end up encroaching the pavements . Which in my opinion isn't that ideal.
With a narrower pavement, residents on the lower floors along the pavements will suffer with curious stares into their house. Constant human traffic / louder "noise"/ less privacy.
Just my honest opinions ;) I still like it tranquility for now
I totally agreed with Roarrr on this issue. 👍
I didn't think so much :D
And honestly am very happy with the current environment. I bought this place because it's "quiet" & " private" enough.
Are u referring to the new road running through ( HP on left, Parc olympia on right ?)
If the new road ( flora drive ) starts to get busy with buses, then I am afraid, it may spoil the tranquility of the place. Those who are living at the lower floors bear most of the brunt of "noise".
Unless you are referring to adding more new bus lines at the existing main roads bus stops . Then that's a really good idea.
I passed by the new road many times day/night, and traffic is non stop flowing. Can't imagine if there's buses passing through :D
And talks of expanding the roads may end up encroaching the pavements . Which in my opinion isn't that ideal.
With a narrower pavement, residents on the lower floors along the pavements will suffer with curious stares into their house. Constant human traffic / louder "noise"/ less privacy.
Just my honest opinions ;) I still like it tranquility for now
To add on, Flora Drive area is known to be " ulu" .
Before I bought it, I already know it's like this .
Near prison. So far. No mrt. No bus. No markets. No malls. So quiet. etc
But this is one of the rare few private estates left in Sg with reasonable pricing.
To add on, Flora Drive area is known to be " ulu" .
Before I bought it, I already know it's like this .
Near prison. So far. No mrt. No bus. No markets. No malls. So quiet. etc
But this is one of the rare few private estates left in Sg with reasonable pricing.
it is ulu, out of doubt, and we pay what we get.
but many places was deems to be ulu and now developed, bukit panjang, boon lay for eg.. I see potential in this area too. Think shouldn't resign to the fate I am sure we could make this place more desirable that it is now
it is ulu, out of doubt, and we pay what we get.
but many places was deems to be ulu and now developed, bukit panjang, boon lay for eg.. I see potential in this area too. Think shouldn't resign to the fate I am sure we could make this place more desirable that it is now
:D
Am not resigning myself to fate.
I chose this place because of the way it is.
It is a nice enclave of private housing projects. Like i said earlier, this is one of the few rare private estates in Sg that is of reasonable price.
I bought private because like the name suggest it is " private".
I do have friends living at Flora drive. And one common thing they told me is " they enjoy the peace and tranquility there ; minus the occasion airplane zooming overhead. They are really happy. But for how long, they ain't sure themselves"
Enhancements are great. I have no qualms of having malls / shops / buses etc around the area.
But introducing buses into the new road (Flora drive ) itself ??
If you noticed, most private estates, have limited buses running through. ( along main roads; yes. But cutting through the estates; minimal really )
Lastly, when all projects are completed, the traffic will build up. And add on to buses running through :confused:
Cheers:cheers1:
It is a nice enclave of private housing projects. Like i said earlier, this is one of the few rare private estates in Sg that is of reasonable price.
I bought private because like the name suggest it is " private".
I do have friends living at Flora drive. And one common thing they told me is " they enjoy the peace and tranquility there ; minus the occasion airplane zooming overhead.
tis I hv to agree wif u. flora area is really very tranquil; a cheap pte enclave :47: but I didn't choose it cos it is not convenient, but u make my heart itchy again :(
tis I hv to agree wif u. flora area is really very tranquil; a cheap pte enclave :47: but I didn't choose it cos it is not convenient, but u make my heart itchy again :(
Hmmm, cheap? How would you define cheap? All ranges btw $850 psf to $1,000 psf or more, consider cheap? The Gale is even higher from recent transactions. I thought the days when properties are cheap were long gone. :confused:
Back in 2004-2005, projects at district 17, 18 were like only $400 - $600 psf. That was cheap I guess.
Anyway, I personally don't think Flora area is exactly that "inconvenient" if you drive. For Hedges, bus-stop is right beside the side gate, which is a plus point.
leftrightcentre
14-11-13, 23:39
I certainly do not hope for a bus stop along Flora Drive, or for Flora to be widened. The pavement is narrow as it is. I love the wide pavement along Flora Road. Perfect for a stroll or jog without having to shift around to let other users pass or to overtake.
In any case, I do not think Flora Drive would be widened as this is a new road and the land plot uses already known at time of building. It is simply bad planning and blatant waste of good taxpayers money to widen the road.
I bought Hedges largely due to the serenity of the area. Tranquil peaceful secluded. Doesn't matter that much that it is not as accessible by MRT or bus services, or does not have as much support amenities. I believe all the inconveniences would be more than balanced by the quality time I spend in my home. :) Afterall, my home is for me to stay in and not travel in/out of.
I certainly do not hope for a bus stop along Flora Drive, or for Flora to be widened. The pavement is narrow as it is. I love the wide pavement along Flora Road. Perfect for a stroll or jog without having to shift around to let other users pass or to overtake.
In any case, I do not think Flora Drive would be widened as this is a new road and the land plot uses already known at time of building. It is simply bad planning and blatant waste of good taxpayers money to widen the road.
I bought Hedges largely due to the serenity of the area. Tranquil peaceful secluded. Doesn't matter that much that it is not as accessible by MRT or bus services, or does not have as much support amenities. I believe all the inconveniences would be more than balanced by the quality time I spend in my home. :) Afterall, my home is for me to stay in and not travel in/out of.
*thumbs up* am totally with you on this ! :cheers4:
Hmmm, cheap? How would you define cheap? All ranges btw $850 psf to $1,000 psf or more, consider cheap? The Gale is even higher from recent transactions. I thought the days when properties are cheap were long gone. :confused:
Back in 2004-2005, projects at district 17, 18 were like only $400 - $600 psf. That was cheap I guess.
Anyway, I personally don't think Flora area is exactly that "inconvenient" if you drive. For Hedges, bus-stop is right beside the side gate, which is a plus point.
cheap as in it is cheap to buy cos the quantum is low.
but cheap doesn't make it any more worth.
u cannot compare wif 10 yrs ago la! :banghead:
2 bedder at eden tampines less den 400k leh!
hedgesalvin
15-11-13, 10:58
I certainly do not hope for a bus stop along Flora Drive, or for Flora to be widened. The pavement is narrow as it is. I love the wide pavement along Flora Road. Perfect for a stroll or jog without having to shift around to let other users pass or to overtake.
In any case, I do not think Flora Drive would be widened as this is a new road and the land plot uses already known at time of building. It is simply bad planning and blatant waste of good taxpayers money to widen the road.
I bought Hedges largely due to the serenity of the area. Tranquil peaceful secluded. Doesn't matter that much that it is not as accessible by MRT or bus services, or does not have as much support amenities. I believe all the inconveniences would be more than balanced by the quality time I spend in my home. :) Afterall, my home is for me to stay in and not travel in/out of.
I certainly also am not in favor of widening Flora Drive. Its best to leave it as it is. Any widening is sure to encroach the pavement. Residents of units near tothe road will suffer the most.
I also frankly don't think bus service along Flora Drive necessary. So long as bus services run along Upp Changi Rd North , i think its sufficient.
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