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    http://www.straitstimes.com/PrimeNew...ry_575311.html

    Sep 6, 2010

    Lacklustre property sales as cautious mood prevails

    Homes in mass-market segment appear to be most affected

    By Jessica Cheam


    WAIT-AND-SEE was the order of the day at showflats over the weekend - the first since measures aimed to cool property speculation were introduced by the Government last Monday.

    The mass-market segment appeared to be the most affected, with thinner crowds and noticeably fewer sales. At more upmarket properties, there was still some interest among genuine buyers.

    There were no new launches over the weekend, but at projects that The Straits Times visited, sales were poor.

    At The Minton, a 1,145-unit condominium in Lorong Ah Soo, a healthy crowd was seen but actual sales were lacklustre, said Mr Peter Ow, managing director of residential services at Knight Frank, the agency selling the condo.

    'The crowd levels were the same as the previous weekend, but take-up was poor. The sentiment on the ground now is buyers want to wait and see what happens in the property market.'

    The condo has sold 437 units at an average price of $860 per sq ft (psf) to date.

    Property agents interviewed said overall, the mood seems to be cautious, with most buyers now keeping that home purchase on hold.

    HSR agent John Chan, 26, who took his clients to the Waterfront Gold showflat in the Bedok Reservoir area said the recent measures have 'tipped many borderline buyers into the wait-and-see group'.

    'People want more indication of whether prices will hold or fall before making decisions,' he said.

    Developers appear to have maintained their selling prices for now, a move which probably gave buyers another reason to hold back.

    A Frasers Centrepoint spokesperson said there were no sales done over the weekend for Waterfront Gold. To date, 200 out of 272 units have been sold at an average price of $980 psf.

    The showflat was relatively quiet, with more agents milling around than there were buyers drifting in.

    Over at Seletar Hills, Far East Organization sold eight homes at an average price of $1,065 psf over the weekend at Phase 2 of The Greenwich, a 319-unit leasehold project.

    In contrast, 34 units were snapped up in the week from its Phase 2 launch on Aug 23 to Aug 29. It had sold out 174 units in its Phase 1 launch previously.

    This hit on the mass-market segment, typically made up of upgraders, had been expected by property analysts.

    'This segment was the star performer this year, so naturally it will take a hit as buying sentiment has cooled as everyone is waiting to see if prices will come down,' said Chesterton Suntec International research and consultancy director Colin Tan.

    The new measures included tighter lending rules for home owners with existing mortgages looking to buy another property. They can borrow up to only 70 per cent of the value, down from 80 per cent. Assuming a price tag of $1 million, buyers will have to fork out an extra $100,000 for the down payment, a hefty sum for an upgrader.

    Those who buy an HDB resale flat on or after Aug 30 must also dispose of their private property - including any held overseas - within six months of the HDB purchase.

    One buyer, Mr Terence Tan, a 37-year-old flight attendant, said that the higher down payment has made it more difficult for buyers such as himself to upgrade.

    'But if I really like the home and the price is right, I will fork out the higher down payment to secure it,' he said.

    Agents agree that there will still be buyers who will sign on the dotted line if they feel the development is unique enough and will thus keep its value.

    Retiree Ng Eng Koon, 65, who was at The Greenwich showflat looking to buy his retirement home, said the new rules will not deter him from buying if he likes a home.

    'No one can predict what will happen now, even the Government. I don't think the rules will have great impact on genuine buyers, only the investors,' he said.

    Agents added that there will also be some genuine buyers who need homes and cannot wait.

    The mid- to high-end market still seemed to attract buyer interest. BS Capital's The Lumiere at Shenton Way saw a muted crowd, but people were buying.

    A property agent who declined to be named said that the project - which has been completed - has not been drastically affected as the buyers 'can afford to invest'. He had personally sold two units a few days ago, after the new measures were introduced.

    Homes at the 168-unit leasehold project are priced at about $2,500 psf.

    Another reason for the lacklustre sales activity could be the Hungry Ghost Festival, which ends tomorrow, said market observers.

    With a few of the recent projects having sold out, buyers may also be hoping for new launches to offer more choice.

    The best time to gauge the impact of the curbs will be when there are new launches, noted Chesterton's Mr Tan, although this may not be for some time yet as developers are widely expected to put these on the backburner.

    'We have received feedback that buyers are waiting to see if developers will lower their prices, and they might return to the market when this happens,' said Mr Tan.

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    NV Residences get good response despite property market curbs




    The latest launch by City Developments – NV Residences in Pasir Ris Grove – has received good response despite the property market curbs announced late last month.
    A total of 160 of the 200 units released were snapped up during the property’s private preview this week.
    The company’s group general manager, Mr Chia Ngiang Hong, said: “We’re very encouraged by the good response for NV Residences, which shows a healthy demand for a well-positioned and attractively-priced residence in the east, particularly amongst owner-occupiers.”
    The 99-year leasehold condominium development consists of eight 12 to 15-storey blocks. It has a total of 642 units and is priced at an average $830 per sq ft.
    There are one to four- bedroom units, some with an attached study, as well as six penthouses. Their sizes range from 495 sq ft for the one-bedroom unit to 2,497 sq ft for the penthouses.
    Prices per unit range from $557,000 for a one-bedroom unit to $1.9 million for the penthouse.
    Recreational facilities include lap pools, jacuzzis, a gym, saunas, tennis courts and a children’s playground.
    About 480 units are still available in NV Residences, which is located within walking distance of Pasir Ris MRT Station and near major expressways.
    Source : Today – 10 Sep 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr funny
    http://www.straitstimes.com/PrimeNew...ry_575311.html

    Sep 6, 2010

    Lacklustre property sales as cautious mood prevails

    Homes in mass-market segment appear to be most affected

    By Jessica Cheam


    WAIT-AND-SEE was the order of the day at showflats over the weekend - the first since measures aimed to cool property speculation were introduced by the Government last Monday.

    The mass-market segment appeared to be the most affected, with thinner crowds and noticeably fewer sales. At more upmarket properties, there was still some interest among genuine buyers.

    There were no new launches over the weekend, but at projects that The Straits Times visited, sales were poor.

    At The Minton, a 1,145-unit condominium in Lorong Ah Soo, a healthy crowd was seen but actual sales were lacklustre, said Mr Peter Ow, managing director of residential services at Knight Frank, the agency selling the condo.

    'The crowd levels were the same as the previous weekend, but take-up was poor. The sentiment on the ground now is buyers want to wait and see what happens in the property market.'

    The condo has sold 437 units at an average price of $860 per sq ft (psf) to date.

    Property agents interviewed said overall, the mood seems to be cautious, with most buyers now keeping that home purchase on hold.

    HSR agent John Chan, 26, who took his clients to the Waterfront Gold showflat in the Bedok Reservoir area said the recent measures have 'tipped many borderline buyers into the wait-and-see group'.

    'People want more indication of whether prices will hold or fall before making decisions,' he said.

    Developers appear to have maintained their selling prices for now, a move which probably gave buyers another reason to hold back.

    A Frasers Centrepoint spokesperson said there were no sales done over the weekend for Waterfront Gold. To date, 200 out of 272 units have been sold at an average price of $980 psf.

    The showflat was relatively quiet, with more agents milling around than there were buyers drifting in.

    Over at Seletar Hills, Far East Organization sold eight homes at an average price of $1,065 psf over the weekend at Phase 2 of The Greenwich, a 319-unit leasehold project.

    In contrast, 34 units were snapped up in the week from its Phase 2 launch on Aug 23 to Aug 29. It had sold out 174 units in its Phase 1 launch previously.

    This hit on the mass-market segment, typically made up of upgraders, had been expected by property analysts.

    'This segment was the star performer this year, so naturally it will take a hit as buying sentiment has cooled as everyone is waiting to see if prices will come down,' said Chesterton Suntec International research and consultancy director Colin Tan.

    The new measures included tighter lending rules for home owners with existing mortgages looking to buy another property. They can borrow up to only 70 per cent of the value, down from 80 per cent. Assuming a price tag of $1 million, buyers will have to fork out an extra $100,000 for the down payment, a hefty sum for an upgrader.

    Those who buy an HDB resale flat on or after Aug 30 must also dispose of their private property - including any held overseas - within six months of the HDB purchase.

    One buyer, Mr Terence Tan, a 37-year-old flight attendant, said that the higher down payment has made it more difficult for buyers such as himself to upgrade.

    'But if I really like the home and the price is right, I will fork out the higher down payment to secure it,' he said.

    Agents agree that there will still be buyers who will sign on the dotted line if they feel the development is unique enough and will thus keep its value.

    Retiree Ng Eng Koon, 65, who was at The Greenwich showflat looking to buy his retirement home, said the new rules will not deter him from buying if he likes a home.

    'No one can predict what will happen now, even the Government. I don't think the rules will have great impact on genuine buyers, only the investors,' he said.

    Agents added that there will also be some genuine buyers who need homes and cannot wait.

    The mid- to high-end market still seemed to attract buyer interest. BS Capital's The Lumiere at Shenton Way saw a muted crowd, but people were buying.

    A property agent who declined to be named said that the project - which has been completed - has not been drastically affected as the buyers 'can afford to invest'. He had personally sold two units a few days ago, after the new measures were introduced.

    Homes at the 168-unit leasehold project are priced at about $2,500 psf.

    Another reason for the lacklustre sales activity could be the Hungry Ghost Festival, which ends tomorrow, said market observers.

    With a few of the recent projects having sold out, buyers may also be hoping for new launches to offer more choice.

    The best time to gauge the impact of the curbs will be when there are new launches, noted Chesterton's Mr Tan, although this may not be for some time yet as developers are widely expected to put these on the backburner.

    'We have received feedback that buyers are waiting to see if developers will lower their prices, and they might return to the market when this happens,' said Mr Tan.

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    The sentiment is not as bad as I imagined. Viva Vista was almost sold out yesterday, only left 4 penthouses. But there are still many shops to sell. Seriously in Singapore there are not much investment opportunities for common folks as interest rates are so low now. Most of them just get a house to keep. We still have 1.5 million to go before reaching 6.5 million population (potentially 30% higher demand for properties in the next 5-10 years).

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    Seriously, the message should be Sell Now or Sell Lower Later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geylang OKT
    Seriously, the message should be Sell Now or Sell Lower Later

    and to add on it..sell now or sell the same or higher(after eletion)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterng8
    and to add on it..sell now or sell the same or higher(after eletion)...
    what make u think that after election price will be stabilized or go up....? pls provide fact , else u r just a big mouth without substance

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    Quote Originally Posted by 爱屋及乌
    what make u think that after election price will be stabilized or go up....? pls provide fact , else u r just a big mouth without substance
    kanna whack!

    If saying views, say so and don't make it sound like a sure thing.

    Someone want to whack me on that also.

    Maybe he should say : New measures before elections = price should hold or drop

    After elections if PAP win and remove the new measures introduced = price should go up

    Be fearful of a double dip recession in Singapore. That' will hurt. Otherwise, hold long long and things should be alright.

    Peterng is a agent lah. Marketing Caspian and the Parc etc.. west end units.

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    Agents have hidden agendas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geylang OKT
    Seriously, the message should be Sell Now or Sell Lower Later
    Too late, sell lower now or higher later

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    Quote Originally Posted by condoinvestor
    Too late, sell lower now or higher later
    Higher? Why not... it is possible.... give it another 10yrs to 15yrs time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashrich
    kanna whack!

    If saying views, say so and don't make it sound like a sure thing.

    Someone want to whack me on that also.

    Maybe he should say : New measures before elections = price should hold or drop

    After elections if PAP win and remove the new measures introduced = price should go up

    Be fearful of a double dip recession in Singapore. That' will hurt. Otherwise, hold long long and things should be alright.

    Peterng is a agent lah. Marketing Caspian and the Parc etc.. west end units.

    why must I be the agent leh? funny leh...borrow from what u say pls provide fact ma if I am agent

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    Quote Originally Posted by 爱屋及乌
    what make u think that after election price will be stabilized or go up....? pls provide fact , else u r just a big mouth without substance
    I just did my prediction that all...small mouth also can make prediction rite? unless you trust my view so much that you are going to wack me for this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geylang OKT
    Agents have hidden agendas
    Agents have hidden agenda..you are rite because their commision is the motivator of all...too bad I am not agent... dont hit the wrong person here...peter is common name for alot of agents..but perterng8 is not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterng8
    Agents have hidden agenda..you are rite because their commision is the motivator of all...too bad I am not agent... dont hit the wrong person here...peter is common name for alot of agents..but perterng8 is not...
    agent makes money regardless of condition of mkt - just smaller comm only

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterng8
    why must I be the agent leh? funny leh...borrow from what u say pls provide fact ma if I am agent
    What else then a agent? I dont have proof so it cannot be a fact unless u admit. Otherwise, it is a belief.


    See which one is you

    NG BOO THYE (PETER NG BOO THYE)
    NG Eng Toon (Peter Ng)
    NG Kian Huat @ Tan Kian Meng (Peter Ng)
    NG Kum Kit (Peter Ng)
    NG LIAN HENG (PETER NG L H)
    Peter Ng Soon Hen (Peter Ng)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashrich
    What else then a agent? I dont have proof so it cannot be a fact unless u admit. Otherwise, it is a belief.


    See which one is you

    NG BOO THYE (PETER NG BOO THYE)
    NG Eng Toon (Peter Ng)
    NG Kian Huat @ Tan Kian Meng (Peter Ng)
    NG Kum Kit (Peter Ng)
    NG LIAN HENG (PETER NG L H)
    Peter Ng Soon Hen (Peter Ng)

    [email protected]

    you xiao one ...waste time to talk you on this...

    lucky u are not condo committee member, if not the first one kena voted out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooster
    agent makes money regardless of condition of mkt - just smaller comm only

    ha ha not when the case buyer and seller both sit on the fence and looking at each other...you first leh..offer la...no la you first la, buy la...

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    con man - This is a short for “Confidence Man.” He is dishonest. He makes his living by misleading u for his advantage.


    Quote Originally Posted by peterng8
    I just did my prediction that all...small mouth also can make prediction rite? unless you trust my view so much that you are going to wack me for this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 爱屋及乌
    con man - This is a short for “Confidence Man.” He is dishonest. He makes his living by misleading u for his advantage.
    heck care him lah. The only way is up, everyone will be happier (more HDB/DBSS and EC to satisfy them), just make sure you are not swiming naked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 爱屋及乌
    con man - This is a short for “Confidence Man.” He is dishonest. He makes his living by misleading u for his advantage.

    yes I am confident but not dishonest..use your brain before you brand anyone dishonest and KPKB...no one ask you to sell and no one ask you buy..make your own judegment...this is a forum, people can express their prediction, it up to you to use your f+*k brain to thing ...to people like you I dont give a damn..,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashrich
    heck care him lah. The only way is up, everyone will be happier (more HDB/DBSS and EC to satisfy them), just make sure you are not swiming naked.
    And for you, ask you to show fact and you show particulars all over the place...what is this?? wht are you trying to show?? you are good in revealing other s particulars or what? Your name cash rich already tell people that you need hungril for respect and power rite? so by showing all this particulars of others make you feel good? I Chao , you childish...

    my relative also cash-rich,, after collecting bundle of notes last month after burning...

    agent?? go and brand any one u want...I heck care..think that u are the one that is cash rich..there are many of them cash rich and own multiple properties and you brand all of them agent lo...

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    Ha ha ha , did I in anyway brand u or anyone...? However, I am delighted that u have own up, well done con man.

    Exactly , this is a public forum that peoples can challenge any view. Hence , one should rebuke with fact . Only loser like u, use vulgar words because u have nothing to flight back.

    My sympathy go to u loser cum con man .


    Quote Originally Posted by peterng8
    yes I am confident but not dishonest..use your brain before you brand anyone dishonest and KPKB...no one ask you to sell and no one ask you buy..make your own judegment...this is a forum, people can express their prediction, it up to you to use your f+*k brain to thing ...to people like you I dont give a damn..,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 爱屋及乌
    Ha ha ha , did I in anyway brand u or anyone...? However, I am delighted that u have own up, well done con man.



    Originally Posted by 爱屋及乌
    con man - This is a short for “Confidence Man.” He is dishonest. He makes his living by misleading u for his advantage

    F """K you so what...the above you called me dishonest..what fK proof you have???

    still never admit...U better go and wear skirt...OWN UP ..I have done nothing wrong, own up for fK? you named me dishonest ..and u dared not own up ..see the above you type...Bo chi lan...

    Exactly , this is a public forum that peoples can challenge any view. Hence , one should rebuke with fact . Only loser like u, use vulgar words because u have nothing to flight back.

    U can challenge anyone but dont ever called people dishonest or con man? anything like that...challange him is not in this way...why I use vulgar word ...this is because I dont respect person like you...give me a chance I will Fk u again...KNN



    My sympathy go to u loser cum con man .
    See name person con man...any one can be witness and sue you on that..
    ..xiao one...I dont bother to talk to you u are the worse a""hole I have seen, may all the shit holes cum on your bloody face.. ai lan chi lan what ai wu chi wu??

    get lost loser...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 爱屋及乌
    what make u think that after election price will be stabilized or go up....? pls provide fact , else u r just a big mouth without substance

    listen up A""hoe, I still stand by my prediction the price will go up...so what?? I dont want to provide fact to you so what?? call me dishonest or con man...la I still stand the price will go up... just because I predicted the price will go up and u call me con man and dishonest...KNN...this type of people...if you miss your chance last time to buy the property when the price was not high, I can understand why...because you are screwed UP...either on top or bottom where it is not straight and drooping to the extent that anyhow aim and shoot people...

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    some agent has lost his top. this is the calibre of property agents in singapore (sigh), no wonder most can't make it out in mainstream careers

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    This is so funny! Can confirm he is an agent as he is so worked up over a small comment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deszy
    This is so funny! Can confirm he is an agent as he is so worked up over a small comment!


    seems both party also worked up ...


    so both are agents ?

    i fact there are 3 parties

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    haha I think u maybe right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regulators
    some agent has lost his top. this is the calibre of property agents in singapore (sigh), no wonder most can't make it out in mainstream careers
    when they cant make it in reallife,losing out to the better agents.
    With too much spare time,they try to make it in virtual life 24/7..
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