MRT in D16 *Eastern Region Line (ERL)

[howgozit]

that should help alleviate some of the jams on the road and in the trains. but i wish for the trains to be up sooner. the trains are really packed.

This can be immediately solved by increasing the frequency of the trains.

It depends on how cost efficient they wanna be.

If they are willing to be less cost efficient (not to the point of being unprofitable) this problem can be eased.

[minority]

This can be immediately solved by increasing the frequency of the trains.

It depends on how cost efficient they wanna be.

If they are willing to be less cost efficient (not to the point of being unprofitable) this problem can be eased.

It depends on the signaling system. U can't increase it beyond pt of safety .

[howgozit]

It depends on the signaling system. U can't increase it beyond pt of safety .

Of course, lah.....

[eng81157]

i think the announcement will come after the dust settles and property prices stabilize

[proper-t]

If their intention is really to moderate prices, then they should announce it now whilst cm7 is still fresh in the minds of potential buyers. With the uncertainty surroundng the cm, at least they know that the news will not cause a sudden bump in prices of properties along the ERL.

If they wait until cm7 has died down, they run the risk of ERL properties causing the ppi to edge up again when they annouce it.

[eng81157]

If their intention is really to moderate prices, then they should announce it now whilst cm7 is still fresh in the minds of potential buyers. With the uncertainty surroundng the cm, at least they know that the news will not cause a sudden bump in prices of properties along the ERL.

If they wait until cm7 has died down, they run the risk of ERL properties causing the ppi to edge up again when they annouce it.

maybe, maybe not?

announce then people start cheonging and speculating. remember developers were already putting imaginary MRT locations into their brochures for D15/16 developments once upon a time.

[proper-t]

maybe, maybe not?

announce then people start cheonging and speculating. remember developers were already putting imaginary MRT locations into their brochures for D15/16 developments once upon a time.

Yah but whilst cm7 is still fresh and its impact unknown, people will be less inclined to go in now rather than later.

If they wait much later until cm7 is old news and the mkt is at a stalemate, such an announcement might be the catalyst to cause a spike in demand.

[eng81157]

Yah but whilst cm7 is still fresh and its impact unknown, people will be less inclined to go in now rather than later.

If they wait much later until cm7 is old news and the mkt is at a stalemate, such an announcement might be the catalyst to cause a spike in demand.

we assume people will be less inclined to jump into the property market. but didn't we thought so too with the previous CMs?

we can also argue that any announcement will be a catalyst, regardless the timing of which. now, wait for the heat to simmer and time the announcement with the next economic or property boom - it's also a viable option

[proper-t]

we assume people will be less inclined to jump into the property market. but didn't we thought so too with the previous CMs?

we can also argue that any announcement will be a catalyst, regardless the timing of which. now, wait for the heat to simmer and time the announcement with the next economic or property boom - it's also a viable option

yup, but from the oth thread on cm7 etc, one of the possible underlying reason why ERL stations not announced first is pretty clear.

[Laguna]

yup, but from the oth thread on cm7 etc, one of the possible underlying reason why ERL stations not announced first is pretty clear.

sori lah!
not clear to me ....

[proud owner]

sori lah!
not clear to me ....

also not clear to me leh

is it becos D15/16 prices have been more stable ?

is it becos PAP has a strong foot hold there ? wait till the lose one seat there, then quickly announce the location of the stations ?? ehehehe

[radha08]

supposed to be ready by 2020...u think possible

[eng81157]

supposed to be ready by 2020...u think possible

dan gu gu! LTA hasn't even shown the public the possible routes of the ERL

[luzman]

dan gu gu! LTA hasn't even shown the public the possible routes of the ERL

By 2020, 80% housing near MRT....why bother with all these...and the 7 yrs wait...?

[eng81157]

By 2020, 80% housing near MRT....why bother with all these...and the 7 yrs wait...?

huh?! where did u get your stats from??!! 80% near MRT
but then, near-ness is always relative

[luzman]

huh?! where did u get your stats from??!! 80% near MRT
but then, near-ness is always relative

Correction.. by 2030..there are so many lines in Singapore that you will not miss it....

[luzman]

huh?! where did u get your stats from??!! 80% near MRT
but then, near-ness is always relative

By Shabnam Muzammil:

UPDATE: 80 percent of Singapore’s population will live within a 10-minute walk of an MRT station by 2030.

Two new MRT lines were unveiled today - the Cross Island Line (CRL) and the Jurong Region Line (JRL) - in addition to the extension of three existing lines that will increase the rail network stretch to 360 km, compared to the current 178 km.

These plans were announced by Transport Minister Lui Tuck Yew following a review of the Land Transport Master Plan by the Land Transport Authority (LTA).

The 50 km CRL is expected to be completed by 2030 and will connect to all existing lines, running from Jurong Industrial Estate through areas like West Coast, Bukit Timah, Ang Mo Kio, Punggol and Pasir Ris before ending in Changi.

The JRL will likely be completed by 2025. The 20 km line will span areas such as Jurong West, Jurong Industrial District, West Coast, Choa Chu Kang and Tengah.

At the same time, three existing lines - the Circle Line, Downtown Line and North-East Line - will be extended with additional plans for a new station between Sembawang and Yishun on the North-South Line to serve new developments in the area.

Meanwhile, PropertyGuru's Senior Editor Romesh Navaratnarajah expects property prices within walking distance of the two new lines to rise, especially in areas that are underserved by transport links.

A spokeswoman for PropNex Realty agreed, adding: “Naturally, properties with easy access to public transport are more favourable and thus command higher prices (at least 10% higher)."

But there are also downsides which would likely take place during the construction period. "Investors with a short to medium-term perspective would opt for properties that are not facing the construction. Just like in the Eastern region, with so many new projects in that area, some of these residential homes facing construction are difficult to sell."

Moreover, many people could risk losing their homes. The spokeswoman said: "There could be the possibility that some places will need to be cleared for the construction of the MRT line. The government may have these already planned out by now."

Image: Map showing LTA's existing and future MRT lines.

[eng81157]

By Shabnam Muzammil:

UPDATE: 80 percent of Singapore’s population will live within a 10-minute walk of an MRT station by 2030.

Two new MRT lines were unveiled today - the Cross Island Line (CRL) and the Jurong Region Line (JRL) - in addition to the extension of three existing lines that will increase the rail network stretch to 360 km, compared to the current 178 km.

These plans were announced by Transport Minister Lui Tuck Yew following a review of the Land Transport Master Plan by the Land Transport Authority (LTA).

The 50 km CRL is expected to be completed by 2030 and will connect to all existing lines, running from Jurong Industrial Estate through areas like West Coast, Bukit Timah, Ang Mo Kio, Punggol and Pasir Ris before ending in Changi.

The JRL will likely be completed by 2025. The 20 km line will span areas such as Jurong West, Jurong Industrial District, West Coast, Choa Chu Kang and Tengah.

At the same time, three existing lines - the Circle Line, Downtown Line and North-East Line - will be extended with additional plans for a new station between Sembawang and Yishun on the North-South Line to serve new developments in the area.

Meanwhile, PropertyGuru's Senior Editor Romesh Navaratnarajah expects property prices within walking distance of the two new lines to rise, especially in areas that are underserved by transport links.

A spokeswoman for PropNex Realty agreed, adding: “Naturally, properties with easy access to public transport are more favourable and thus command higher prices (at least 10% higher)."

But there are also downsides which would likely take place during the construction period. "Investors with a short to medium-term perspective would opt for properties that are not facing the construction. Just like in the Eastern region, with so many new projects in that area, some of these residential homes facing construction are difficult to sell."

Moreover, many people could risk losing their homes. The spokeswoman said: "There could be the possibility that some places will need to be cleared for the construction of the MRT line. The government may have these already planned out by now."

Image: Map showing LTA's existing and future MRT lines.

2030 is the target for the two new lines. ERL was slated for 2020, and digging hasn't even started

[luzman]

2030 is the target for the two new lines. ERL was slated for 2020, and digging hasn't even started

MRT lines probably takes 5 years to complete...so, there is still plenty of time...remember, its 2020...not 2015.....its a long long time man...

[eng81157]

MRT lines probably takes 5 years to complete...so, there is still plenty of time...remember, its 2020...not 2015.....its a long long time man...

5 years?! unless you employ X-men or superman to build.........
which MRT line took 5 years to plan, site, conceptualize and construct?!

[luzman]

5 years?! unless you employ X-men or superman to build.........
which MRT line took 5 years to plan, site, conceptualize and construct?!

Ai yo...planning is already started a while,.,..i am responding to your comment that no digging has started....within 5 yrs it can be built lah once digging started...but as we all know, its in 2020 which u and me will be 7 yrs wiser...its not going to be real problem and also, no one is going to be bother too much if it is not within 5 yr horizon ,,,

[eng81157]

Ai yo...planning is already started a while,.,..i am responding to your comment that no digging has started....within 5 yrs it can be built lah once digging started...but as we all know, its in 2020 which u and me will be 7 yrs wiser...its not going to be real problem and also, no one is going to be bother too much if it is not within 5 yr horizon ,,,

digging within 5 years?! please share which line took only 5 years to dig. wasn't aware that superman came to help

[radha08]

i also got my doubts..maybe 2022 more realistic...anyway lets c

[PN]

ERL will potentially cut thru these Constituency including Moulmein-Kallang GRC, Mountbatten SMC, Marine Parade GRC, Joo Chiat SMC, East Coast GRC. And East Coast is a huge GRC.

This is the results of the last election by vote%
Moulmein-Kallang GRC 58.55%
Mountbatten SMC 58.62%
Marine Parade GRC 56.64%
Joo Chiat SMC 51.02%
East Coast GRC 54.83%

All below 60%. This is not a good result for MIW standard leh. So ERL very important in coming 2016. If you are in control, will you announce the details now or wait for the right time?

必须攻其不备。Besides 进可攻，退可守。

Disclaimer: I'm just a gardener who just happen to hear some gossips while trimming the plants niah. So not I say one hor.

[leesg123]

digging within 5 years?! please share which line took only 5 years to dig. wasn't aware that superman came to help

planning more less done. the people digging ERL most probably the folks whom are finishing up with the initial phase of DTL.

[radha08]

planning more less done. the people digging ERL most probably the folks whom are finishing up with the initial phase of DTL.

...same people buying choice location along erl....well maybe not the banglas...

[luzman]

digging within 5 years?! please share which line took only 5 years to dig. wasn't aware that superman came to help

A little history for you:

From Wikipedia in case you still think you need super man or any others to hep :

On June 14, 2005, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) announced that it would construct the (then known as) Downtown Extension of the Circle Line, to serve the Downtown at Marina Bay (DTMB) area, where an integrated resort and Singapore's second botanical garden will be located. The 3.4-kilometre fully underground line was estimated to cost S$1.4 billion. Construction of the extension was slated to begin in 2007. Bayfront and Marina Bay stations effectively opened on 14 January 2012.[3]

I think my maths is correct : 2007 to 2012 is about 5 yrs?

[eng81157]

A little history for you:

From Wikipedia in case you still think you need super man or any others to hep :

On June 14, 2005, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) announced that it would construct the (then known as) Downtown Extension of the Circle Line, to serve the Downtown at Marina Bay (DTMB) area, where an integrated resort and Singapore's second botanical garden will be located. The 3.4-kilometre fully underground line was estimated to cost S$1.4 billion. Construction of the extension was slated to begin in 2007. Bayfront and Marina Bay stations effectively opened on 14 January 2012.[3]

I think my maths is correct : 2007 to 2012 is about 5 yrs?

wah piang, nicholl highway collapse in 2004 (not even taking into account prior digging), CCL up in 2010.

by this, can confirm you are not an academic. if you want to lift a passage, always learn to study the context. if not, plagiarise also plagiarise wrongly

[eng81157]

planning more less done. the people digging ERL most probably the folks whom are finishing up with the initial phase of DTL.

i think planning is still in the works for certain parts of the line. from a simpleton's (aka me) perspective, it is just an engineering and architectural nightmare for those parts. but it's just me, i'm not a civil engineer or superman

[luzman]

wah piang, nicholl highway collapse in 2004 (not even taking into account prior digging), CCL up in 2010.

by this, can confirm you are not an academic. if you want to lift a passage, always learn to study the context. if not, plagiarise also plagiarise wrongly

If you want to challenge the content, by all means with Wikipedia. I am not changing any content on this one. The fact is written in the page.