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    Seriously, if we want convenience, most of the time noise is part and parcel of it.

    Noise can be dealt with easily but not totally by.......... curtains (thick ones), closing windows at an angle to deflect the noise, or closing it entirely with your aircon on.

    At the end of the day, it's a matter of being used to.....

    Try sleeping in dead silence, you might go nuts instead.

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    Perhaps planting of tall hedges will help to cut down on noise?

    One thing Estuary is great is being unblock.
    Hate to have an opposite block that stares right into your unit.

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    Unfortunately, it can only reduce certain frequency of noise but not the screeching high frequency sound from motorcycle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Komo
    Perhaps planting of tall hedges will help to cut down on noise?

    One thing Estuary is great is being unblock.
    Hate to have an opposite block that stares right into your unit.

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    Aiya....at least got view lor....and its not expressway....i tink not so bad

    No view and face main road den nono la

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    i think got one block which my sister bou got view of reservoir and is in between two other blocks so perhaps noise is shielded. go check the layout.

    those block facing the cross junction should not be considered if noise is a concern for you cos surely it will be noisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattydrama
    i think got one block which my sister bou got view of reservoir and is in between two other blocks so perhaps noise is shielded. go check the layout.

    those block facing the cross junction should not be considered if noise is a concern for you cos surely it will be noisy.

    you must be referring to block 89 stack 08 & 09, with the double views of pool and reservior, as well as between 2 other blocks. also the centre of attention cos everyone is looking into the balconies.

    i think tree top level is just nice cos got the visual treat of greenery along with the reservior view, and slightly better buffer against noise.

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    Tks all for the great inputs!

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    anyone can recall this project kenna SSD? I think not rite? the first owner could pocket roughly 200k not bad :-)

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    There Are fears of oversupply in the mass market condo in 2014,2015 as a lot of project TOP at that time.that will be worst if the economy on the euro zones adds to the storm and worst if interest rates start to increase like in some 10 years ago where the interest rates are 3 to 4 percent.what's your views on that?What goes up must come down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattydrama
    anyone can recall this project kenna SSD? I think not rite? the first owner could pocket roughly 200k not bad :-)

    when this was launched in late Feb 2010, it was right after the 2nd CM of SSD within 1 year, and yet was sold out !

    http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/text/2010/pr10-99.html
    The Government imposed in February 2010 a seller’s stamp duty (SSD) for sellers who buy residential properties3 on or after 20 February 2010 and sell them within a year of purchase.

    seems like so long ago... with 3rd and 4th CM, and who knows any more??? prob not for now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kQ
    There Are fears of oversupply in the mass market condo in 2014,2015 as a lot of project TOP at that time.that will be worst if the economy on the euro zones adds to the storm and worst if interest rates start to increase like in some 10 years ago where the interest rates are 3 to 4 percent.what's your views on that?What goes up must come down!
    the current group of buyers got quite good holding power and I believed they are also prudent investors. All the units already have owners so unless they throw but with 40% downpayment .. will they?

    dont expect too many fire sales as we do have alot of cash rich pple eyeing so the market could absorb fast.

    Plus the governemnt could restrict land sales and come out new policy to manage the suitation. We do have alot of buffers unlike greece.

    so long as our policy opens to foreigners should be safe.

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    [quote=rattydrama]dont expect too many fire sales as we do have alot of cash rich pple eyeing so the market could absorb fast. [quote]

    recent months of eventful stock market swings, down and up. how many of cash rich pple, absorb fast to buy into opportunity?

    instead.. everyone was waiting to see.

    if the props do come down, cash rich pple definately do not wan to catch a falling knife, or a falling market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeline
    when this was launched in late Feb 2010, it was right after the 2nd CM of SSD within 1 year, and yet was sold out !

    http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/text/2010/pr10-99.html
    The Government imposed in February 2010 a seller’s stamp duty (SSD) for sellers who buy residential properties3 on or after 20 February 2010 and sell them within a year of purchase.

    seems like so long ago... with 3rd and 4th CM, and who knows any more??? prob not for now...
    haha over liao... can sell n pocket.. most of them could be HDB upgraders. Buy now before the price climb up? But one thing, I felt that the common rooms are too small.

    Now even with 4 year SSD still no short of buyers. I dont expect anymore CMs. as CCR not moving.

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    [QUOTE=jwong71][quote=rattydrama]dont expect too many fire sales as we do have alot of cash rich pple eyeing so the market could absorb fast.

    recent months of eventful stock market swings, down and up. how many of cash rich pple, absorb fast to buy into opportunity?

    instead.. everyone was waiting to see.

    if the props do come down, cash rich pple definately do not wan to catch a falling knife, or a falling market.
    depending on the severity of the economy. in early 2009, some pple miss it cos they thought it was a falling knife...god knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattydrama
    the current group of buyers got quite good holding power and I believed they are also prudent investors. All the units already have owners so unless they throw but with 40% downpayment .. will they?

    dont expect too many fire sales as we do have alot of cash rich pple eyeing so the market could absorb fast.

    Plus the governemnt could restrict land sales and come out new policy to manage the suitation. We do have alot of buffers unlike greece.

    so long as our policy opens to foreigners should be safe.
    btw did u read today sunday times, on tycoon's money habit??

    cash-rich with 8 assets are wary of current props situation.

    *he's definately rich enuff, to buy paintings.
    etc just like my boss,buy $600,000 on a hk painting, i think some tax $40,000.
    and these pple buy alot of paintings

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwong71
    btw did u read today sunday times, on tycoon's money habit??

    cash-rich with 8 assets are wary of current props situation.

    *he's definately rich enuff, to buy paintings.
    etc just like my boss,buy $600,000 on a hk painting, i think some tax $40,000.
    and these pple buy alot of paintings
    cos he bou at low low price. Just like my friend cannot stomach the high price of ppty now. anyway he is the son of far east levingston shipbuilding boss.. no short of money... another thing his investment in art pieces probably got him a better deal but how many of us know art pieces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kQ
    There Are fears of oversupply in the mass market condo in 2014,2015 as a lot of project TOP at that time.that will be worst if the economy on the euro zones adds to the storm and worst if interest rates start to increase like in some 10 years ago where the interest rates are 3 to 4 percent.what's your views on that?What goes up must come down!


    you are right, what goes up must and will certainly come down!

    but will the down be a lower down compared with the last trough? conventional wisdom says that the trough will always be higher than the previous trough. still this time round, the issue outstanding is with sovereign debts vs the previous `smaller' bank debts - so potential risks are much higher! these issues are never going to go away. however my feel is that it is the sentiments that will drive and affect the markets accordingly. govts have definitely learnt their lessons and will certainly do their utmost to keep adverse sentiments at bay. our ssds and ltvs are already designed to ensure a softer landing if sentiments do indeed dip, as more and more are sucked into a 4 year holding transition.

    so you can macro time but not micro time the market. bravely go in to buy at your desired price if it is for own long term stay and you got the spare cash. if the euros can lift sentiments with their positivity, then the market may be further lifted to the next phase (even though the underlying debts will still take a long time to clear and rear their ugly heads from time to time).

    holding power is key.

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    just want to also add that a friend commented...

    if rents are not going up any higher (ie facing upward resistance), then this may indicate that property price is peaking.

    so find your own balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeline
    just want to also add that a friend commented...

    if rents are not going up any higher (ie facing upward resistance), then this may indicate that property price is peaking.

    so find your own balance.
    this is true.

    I heard mm units are still selling very well, sold out in every projects... is it that all these pple got wind cfm, guarantee n chop there will be no short of renters....

    there is so much confidence on the ground... so many mm units, this could be a time bomb.. gov should set some restriction...

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    Interests rates up then rentals will up. For now, rents will sustain .

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    i heard hdb rents are up, is there any truth in that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kane
    i heard hdb rents are up, is there any truth in that?
    Nope....almost flat for 6mths liao

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilplate
    Nope....almost flat for 6mths liao
    Which area you looking at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kQ
    In general , noise travels upwards , so the higher it is , the noisy it gets
    When I was doing my survey there , I meet 2 residents staying in HDB 816 He told me the noise gets worst in the middle of the night when crazy bikers ramp rrrrrr...and race along that road during the weekends ,it's unbearable also in the wee morning when loads of heavy trucks carrying constructions materials goes roaring in.he told me he is getting a new place and will move out once the new place is ready.He specifically said the view is perfect but not the noise as it disturbed her daughters sleep in the night

    Now I am in a delinma to buy or not to buy !
    If what u said is true, then top of the MBS will be super noisy... No lah, sound is a form of energy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by testtest
    If what u said is true, then top of the MBS will be super noisy... No lah, sound is a form of energy...
    it is extremely noisy at night...especially so on one night of the year

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilplate
    Nope....almost flat for 6mths liao
    a 3rm HDB i know (AMK) just renewed lease from 1.5k to 1.7k/mth

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    Quote Originally Posted by august
    a 3rm HDB i know (AMK) just renewed lease from 1.5k to 1.7k/mth
    But the 1.5k was one yr ago rite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by august
    a 3rm HDB i know (AMK) just renewed lease from 1.5k to 1.7k/mth
    more than 10% up. any major works done to spruce up the unit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kane
    more than 10% up. any major works done to spruce up the unit?
    Quite normal leh i tot

    I know of 1.8k(one yr ago) jump to 2.1k for a 3rm flat recently

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilplate
    Quite normal leh i tot

    I know of 1.8k(one yr ago) jump to 2.1k for a 3rm flat recently
    i thought you were mentioning it was flat in the last 6 months? 2.1k for a 3 room flat is quite a lot leh.

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