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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicknan
    I noticed that most ground floor units (facing the park) have relatively smaller PES area, eg. the total area for 4 bedder units: ground level is 1658, while the others are 1625, only a gap of 33 sf.
    i agree ...

    you can renovate the interior til nice nice .. that can be replicated ..

    but you can never 'renovate' the view outside ... so one has to pay for view

    but do consider buying FH lah .... 99 in prime location still makes sense ..
    but 99yr in outskirt when its not much cheaper than FH .. might as well buy FH ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicknan
    Hi, Some agents already told the potential buyers the ClementiWoods would be TOPed at end of 2009. Anyone can provide accurate information?

    I hope I can move in earlier.
    The developer says year end unlikely but doesn't want to commit to a date yet. Some agents advertised in papers by 2Q 2010. My own estimate is end 1Q 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    i agree ...

    you can renovate the interior til nice nice .. that can be replicated ..

    but you can never 'renovate' the view outside ... so one has to pay for view

    but do consider buying FH lah .... 99 in prime location still makes sense ..
    but 99yr in outskirt when its not much cheaper than FH .. might as well buy FH ..
    I think closer to TOP and with the IR up, the prices for CW will be more in line with VP, maybe slightly higher because it is newer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    i agree ...

    you can renovate the interior til nice nice .. that can be replicated ..

    but you can never 'renovate' the view outside ... so one has to pay for view

    but do consider buying FH lah .... 99 in prime location still makes sense ..
    but 99yr in outskirt when its not much cheaper than FH .. might as well buy FH ..
    Aiya if got money go buy Nassim Park lagi best lah, who don't know????

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincenthse88
    I think closer to TOP and with the IR up, the prices for CW will be more in line with VP, maybe slightly higher because it is newer.
    possibly ... and between CW and VP i think CW may be better as it really 'next to' westcoast plaza ...

    i must say the plaza is interesting .. good amt of kopi joints .. and the super mkt, in my opinion ..is the best among its chain in singapore

    only missing ATM machines ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    possibly ... and between CW and VP i think CW may be better as it really 'next to' westcoast plaza ...

    i must say the plaza is interesting .. good amt of kopi joints .. and the super mkt, in my opinion ..is the best among its chain in singapore

    only missing ATM machines ...
    The new westcoast plaza is a far cry and much better than the previous ginza. 3rd bus-stop from CW (3 mins?), it has cold storage, fish & co, dian xiao er, guardian, watson, kidstyle, jean yip, coffee kiosks like starbucks, coffee beans, tully's, etc. I hope it will attract some more big retailers later....and agree ATMs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincenthse88
    The new westcoast plaza is a far cry and much better than the previous ginza. 3rd bus-stop from CW (3 mins?), it has cold storage, fish & co, dian xiao er, guardian, watson, kidstyle, jean yip, coffee kiosks like starbucks, coffee beans, tully's, etc. I hope it will attract some more big retailers later....and agree ATMs.
    i am largely surprised at it ..my wife has been urging me to go visit there for a while and i resisted ...until last weekend ... as usual ..she went : ' listen to your wife, wont be wrong' ...hahah

    its good to know that there are quality places in HDB land .. and its a good news to those in the condos nearby ..

    note : i dont live there , nor do i own any condos there .. i live in South buona vista side ... see the need to clarify this, in case someone thinks that i am attempting to 'push up ' value of nearby condos ..hahaha

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    Construction progress of CW as at April 2009:

    http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.c...entiwoods.html

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    Dear members,

    Have a 2+study unit @ Clementiwoods for sale. 1087sqft. Bank val: 740k
    Asking 730k.

    Pls refer to http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/363487 if interested.

    Have a good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP specialist
    Dear members,

    Have a 2+study unit @ Clementiwoods for sale. 1087sqft. Bank val: 740k
    Asking 730k.

    Pls refer to http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/363487 if interested.

    Have a good day.
    740k/1087 = 680.7 psf

    thats good valuation from the bank .. considering its 99 yr lease ..

    just a reminder .. Stellar, FH, TOP already ... more accessible in terms of location .. has the same valuation, if not lower ...

    people ...you decide ..what is VALUE ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    740k/1087 = 680.7 psf

    thats good valuation from the bank .. considering its 99 yr lease ..

    just a reminder .. Stellar, FH, TOP already ... more accessible in terms of location .. has the same valuation, if not lower ...

    people ...you decide ..what is VALUE ..
    I've noticed that the asking/transacted prices for Varsity Park and Stellar are quite close. Could it be Stellar is located at cross road? How do banks value a particular project? Also, I know there could be huge differences in the valuation of a particular project amongst different banks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincenthse88
    I've noticed that the asking/transacted prices for Varsity Park and Stellar are quite close. Could it be Stellar is located at cross road? How do banks value a particular project? Also, I know there could be huge differences in the valuation of a particular project amongst different banks.
    a bank told me that Stellar valuation low before the 'mark' it to other FH within 1 km ...which are Foliage and Murano ..which for location reason, being not exactly close to main road ... are in the low 600 psf valuation ..

    and Clementiwoods , will be valued same way , 'mark' to other 99 yrs within that 1 km ... which are Varsity park, etc ..

    i feel this is not the right way to value any project .. FH will have a much higher long term value compared to 99 yr within the same area ...

    i cant fight the bank .. now they so afraid to add on any more potential bad loans ..are slashing valuation by 20 pct automatic

    sad sad

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    I`m looking to buy a 2 bedder (1001psf) at 620K or 2+S (1087psf) at 630K.

    Please drop me a msg at [email protected] if you are keen. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodobird
    I`m looking to buy a 2 bedder (1001psf) at 620K or 2+S (1087psf) at 630K.

    Please drop me a msg at [email protected] if you are keen. Thanks!
    hiih if you are successful in finding someone to sell you their 2 bedder at those psf ..let me know ...

    do you realise , if you are talking about Stellar .. those psf is much lower than Varsity park ?

    and recently, not in caveat yet .. a 3 bedder in VP (99yr) , 1400 ish sqft sold near 1.35 m ?

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    Stack facing the woods, 1389sqf for 650psf, you keen?


    Quote Originally Posted by dodobird
    I`m looking to buy a 2 bedder (1001psf) at 620K or 2+S (1087psf) at 630K.

    Please drop me a msg at [email protected] if you are keen. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodobird
    I`m looking to buy a 2 bedder (1001psf) at 620K or 2+S (1087psf) at 630K.

    Please drop me a msg at [email protected] if you are keen. Thanks!

    Even Micasa and Caspian also don't have this price plus TOP further away

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple3
    Stack facing the woods, 1389sqf for 650psf, you keen?
    hahaha clementiwoods at 650 psf ??

    walau eh .... dont con people leh

    his name maybe Dodo Bird ... but he is asking for 650 k for 650 psf

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple3
    Stack facing the woods, 1389sqf for 650psf, you keen?

    This price have lah, your unit must be facing the rubbish dump and power station, in front of the bbq pits and in front of the underground parking entrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple3
    Stack facing the woods, 1389sqf for 650psf, you keen?
    Yesterday's BT reported the avg price of CW is 662/663psf, and one of the very few condo whose prices are gg up. If people pay a premium to get a unit facing the woods during launch, why would they part with such price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincenthse88
    Yesterday's BT reported the avg price of CW is 662/663psf, and one of the very few condo whose prices are gg up. If people pay a premium to get a unit facing the woods during launch, why would they part with such price?
    For BT, the average price stated is jack upward by 2bedder psf. The last two 1389sqf transacted at $640psf for Blk 88, 03-42 and $610psf for blk 88, 02-35. Both facing the wood.

    And the premium you mentioned, what premium? 3% launch discount + 0.5% loyalty discount for x-fcl customer + pps option = I bought around 550psf. Other facing I think 525psf.

    And for pps, the latest stage completion report calling for 3rd progess payment of 10% is for RC Frame Works. Earlier 20% for S&P + 10% for foundation. next should be 5% for brick walls after qp certify schedule. So till now minus away initial 20% i only paid developer another 20% out of remain 80% and + stamp, u can work out my margin without interest cost.

    With the army of carabelle and botannia coming top in next 6 mths, how much do you think I should price then? I have been getting unsecure offer of 660-670 but never see a single cheque yet. BT report 663psf? so 1389 x 663 so absolute at $920,907. + stamp 22230. Short of 50k to 1 million for this 3 bedders double 9. lol. You want?

    Mr Vincent, u ask a proper structure question so I answer you. please kindly don't behave like the 2 disgusting clowns (cher & proud owner which most likely the same person) and reply/talk rubbish. thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple3
    For BT, the average price stated is jack upward by 2bedder psf. The last two 1389sqf transacted at $640psf for Blk 88, 03-42 and $610psf for blk 88, 02-35. Both facing the wood.

    And the premium you mentioned, what premium? 3% launch discount + 0.5% loyalty discount for x-fcl customer + pps option = I bought around 550psf. Other facing I think 525psf.

    And for pps, the latest stage completion report calling for 3rd progess payment of 10% is for RC Frame Works. Earlier 20% for S&P + 10% for foundation. next should be 5% for brick walls after qp certify schedule. So till now minus away initial 20% i only paid developer another 20% out of remain 80% and + stamp, u can work out my margin without interest cost.

    With the army of carabelle and botannia coming top in next 6 mths, how much do you think I should price then? I have been getting unsecure offer of 660-670 but never see a single cheque yet. BT report 663psf? so 1389 x 663 so absolute at $920,907. + stamp 22230. Short of 50k to 1 million for this 3 bedders double 9. lol. You want?

    Mr Vincent, u ask a proper structure question so I answer you. please kindly don't behave like the 2 disgusting clowns (cher & proud owner which most likely the same person) and reply/talk rubbish. thank you.
    C'mon, you don't have to react so strongly and start calling names. Everyone analyses market and view projects differently. Anyway, let's stop here lah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincenthse88
    C'mon, you don't have to react so strongly and start calling names. Everyone analyses market and view projects differently. Anyway, let's stop here lah.
    thank you vincent, whoever you are ..

    and apple3 , i am proud owner .. cher is cher .. i dont know him nor you nor anyone here

    all i am sayng is for a 99 yr clementiwoods .. why who would want your 3 bedder at 650 PSF ?? when FH like Stellar and Spectrum and those just behind NUS are also around 650 psf ??

    i dont see why my opinion would make me a clown ?

    after some years ... those who bought FH will find their property still have a better value than the 99 yr leasehold, which loses value MORE as it get older and closer to DEATH, afterall it has a MAXIMUM life span ..

    so those who pay same PSF for a 99 yr as oppose to a FH are the real CLOWN, maybe not now , but will be .. maybe their children will be wondering why their smart daddy paid same price for a leasehold ..

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    i got a fren who bought 2nd fr unit at Clementiwoods in late '07 subsales ... maybe around tt price in this current discussion ... but anyway, don't "see" any resemblance between proud owner and cher (thot they sharing diff opinions isn't it??) ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner

    i dont see why my opinion would make me a clown ?
    And i dont see why my offer would make me a do do bird or whatever gu gu bird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple3
    And i dont see why my offer would make me a do do bird or whatever gu gu bird.
    i did not call you DODO .. you offer at 650 psf to DODO
    so i said : his name is DODO but he maynot be dodo

    READ carefully before you start name calling ...

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    Someone offered to sell VP, with not too bad a facing, at low $500+psf in 2007. I thought to myself it is 99LH, too big a project, furnishing not fantastic, launch price was only $400+psf, quantum quite high due to big floor area, name could be mistaken for campus lodging, etc etc and procrastinated. The agent marketing the unit told me the owner received many offers over a few months but no cheque actually came in, presumably all thought the price was too high. The person who finally bought it (not me) must be beaming away if he had sold the unit near or after TOP. My point is 99LH properties do not necessarily lose out. Why would people fork out $600-700K for public housing? Why are there numerous mass market 99LH in suburbs selling for ard $700psf when a few years ago, this was inconceivable.
    Also, property is not a liquid asset - holding power and timing are just as important. Just my 2 cents worth....

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    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    i did not call you DODO .. you offer at 650 psf to DODO
    so i said : his name is DODO but he maynot be dodo

    READ carefully before you start name calling ...
    What talking you?? So.. proud owner is CLOWN but he maynot be clown?

    hahahha..

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    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    thank you vincent, whoever you are ..

    and apple3 , i am proud owner .. cher is cher .. i dont know him nor you nor anyone here

    all i am sayng is for a 99 yr clementiwoods .. why who would want your 3 bedder at 650 PSF ?? when FH like Stellar and Spectrum and those just behind NUS are also around 650 psf ??

    i dont see why my opinion would make me a clown ?

    after some years ... those who bought FH will find their property still have a better value than the 99 yr leasehold, which loses value MORE as it get older and closer to DEATH, afterall it has a MAXIMUM life span ..

    so those who pay same PSF for a 99 yr as oppose to a FH are the real CLOWN, maybe not now , but will be .. maybe their children will be wondering why their smart daddy paid same price for a leasehold ..
    Anyway, I'm more interested in this post. Like I have illustrated on the past 2 transaction, my price 10dollars more got con ppl meh? It the most natural thing that seller want high buyer want low, my one high until consider conning meh? I do agree that 640psf for CW is on the steep side though.

    And back to your lifespan thingy, if thing so simple then life will be easlier. As appended pls find SLA land appreciation guide. http://www.sla.gov.sg/faq/land_sales/LeaseholdTable.doc

    IN MY HUMBLE OPINION!!!

    So long you dont hold a leasehold more than 20yrs is safe. But if you buy cheap, also can lah. And on close spec, 2 FH price is close to 3 LH. You lease out FH also cannot get higher rent compare to LH. LH sell lower but also buy lower, FH buy higher but also sell higher. of course both same price of course get FH. I never believe in tenure, location or amenities for appreciation. I only believe in timing.

    As for your smart daddy term, I don't think I will face it. I sold away Sunset prop and settle in VP now, the CW is a wedding gift to my son which going to give me my 1st granddaughter next month and I do certainly hope that she could said to me "Grandpa you are stupid.." ASAP. hahahhaha..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincenthse88
    C'mon, you don't have to react so strongly and start calling names. Everyone analyses market and view projects differently. Anyway, let's stop here lah.
    1. C'mon, reply you dont answer nevermind still want to talk like a saint..

    2. My reaction strong meh?

    3. Every individual entitled to their own opinion? AGREE! My opinion is Cher is a clown what.. cannot meh? Just that he cannot make ppl laugh when he defend desperately for CW and you got something against clown or what?

    whahahahhahah.. I love this forum. Next year I retire I come in everyday..

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple3
    What talking you?? So.. proud owner is CLOWN but he maynot be clown?

    hahahha..
    you really are a old ...

    dodo said he is interested in a 2 bedder at 650 K
    ==
    yet you reply him with your cheap CW, 3 bedder, somemore asking to sell at 650 PSF

    DO YOU SEE WHAT STUPID ERROR you have made ?

    hence i replied saying dodo (stupid bird) maybe called dodo, but he is no dodo

    and you started calling me stupid .. and accusing me of imposter as Cher ..

    so now you are offering your CW at 650 k to dodo ?? when you said you bought it for your son as wedding give ???? WOW

    great daddy you are .. buy for people ..and sell for people ???

    old man really have bad memory ..i forgive you ..

    case close ..

    you can hahaha as much as you like

    i will not waste time with you old man who cannot afford FH ..buy 99yr ..claimed to give to son .. seems like want to take bad and sell to others ..

    BYE BYE

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