Fall of china may come later but not now....Originally Posted by stalingrad
it is the fall of EU and USA now
Exalted
Fall of china may come later but not now....
it is the fall of EU and USA now
Junior
If EU and USA are falling, how far can China be behind? the hard landing in 2013 that Roubini was talking about may be advanced to 2012.Fall of china may come later but not now....
it is the fall of EU and USA now
Junior
You have been promoting the stock since it was very high right? Goodness me. Anyway, maybe a bit of patience will help in stock investing... no need to keep averaging down.... Stock investing is not merely about NAV, need to review future prospects as well. Similar to property - cannot always look at past performance of any district.
yes I did. want to join me ? ha ha ha
Junior
that is right. NAV means nothing in a market expected to blow up soon.
some guy asked me in the forum, "do you know that capitaland's nav is $4.27, do you even know what NAV is." I just laughed at such naive questions. Yes, I know what NAV is, but I also know that NAV is sh*t in a market in transition.
Exalted
better duno all these terms....i only trust TA which reflects actual market transaction
no such thing called undervalued stocks based on waterver NAV etc....if its really undervalued den y those astute investors/fund mgr etc etc can miss it?
all stocks r trading at close to its 'value' at all times!
looks like market is undergoing whip saw period......i will stay away for the time being
Junior
because Liew knows something u don't ....
Junior
during a turmoil like now, stock market is a casino. no valuation needed.
during stable market, you then talk about NAV, earnings projection, etc.
this is just the simple fact of trading.
Newbie
IF Liew does rely on reading newspaper to gather economic information, then capitaland investors really need to seriously consider withdraw their investment from capitaland
If you had faithfully follow Ruobini for your investment decisions, you might have lost your property at Carabella and other investments
If you really have doubts on China economy, don't just read newspaper
go there, live there for a few months, most important of all, talk to some business owners in different regions of China before your verdict
If you all you can do is reading newspaper, you shall stay away from China to sleep better at night
Junior
china's prosperity is a mirage. they keep GDP growth up by building roads to nowhere, cities that no one lives in, high speed rails that crash, and condos that no one can afford to buy. hard landing is coming. I don't need to speak to any businessmen there to know. besides, I don't even speak the language, and most of them are liars anyway. just look at S chips.
Junior
How can you conclude it's a mirage when you don't even know the language and have not stayed there? Armchair critic with no insights? Where did you derive your conclusion from?
Music of the night
"building roads to nowhere" ... ha ha stalin obviously has never been to China and is "afraid" of China's rise in economic power like a typical Western man ... if you have been to both India/China, you will appreciate China's transport infrastructure much better
Wake up lah, in a few thousands years of human civilization, China was prosperous for many times before so it will rise again
Talking about CAPL, if you believe in TA, Liew is in deep shit
Ride at your own risk !!!
Junior
boys, you guys really don't even read newspapers. If you don't, then do yourselves a favor by watching some videos on youtube and seeing for yourself how many cities and shopping malls have been built in China that have turned into ghost towns.
I know you are all Chinese, but please don't be so naive and be fooled into thinking the Chinese economy is built on a solid foundation. It is more like quick sand.
Junior
any real ang mo can enlighten bros here y 2 years ago all the Ang mo countries crash n burn and drag along the whole world along with it? Y issit that Asians , Chineses and Indians escaped relatively unharmed but is drag down again by the $$$$ printing tactics of the US?
Newbie
Guess you have been reading too much newspapers, are you working for the News Group?
Anyway, if you all you can do are reading newspapers and follow those analyst/economist reports, it does make sense for you to stay away from China, and anything that you can only learn from the media. Those bearish reports do less harm than the bullish one as long as you don't short-sell on it.
Junior
capitaland hits $2.35 today. how low can it sink?
Newbie
Analysts will only tell you about its NAV/RNAV, and the target prices which shall be much higher than $2.35
Maybe you can find the answer on youtube?
Junior
Stalingrad is one funny guy. Talk down all pties CCR but secretly really wanted to buy one in Bt Timah; similarly he talked down CAPL a lot , but secretly he wanted to enter at 2
Junior
you got it, man. I will buy some shares at $2.Stalingrad is one funny guy. Talk down all pties CCR but secretly really wanted to buy one in Bt Timah; similarly he talked down CAPL a lot , but secretly he wanted to enter at 2
Junior
not suitable for him, CCR is too pretentious for him. At $2 , exposure in china is no longer dangerous and no longer quick sand. At $2, it doesnt matter if Liew reads newspaper. At $2, nothing else is impt, even if the company is invested on quick sand. $0.35 difference in price can make one person swallow all his words. 14.89% difference in entry price and CAPL suddenly becomes a good buy?Stalingrad is one funny guy. Talk down all pties CCR but secretly really wanted to buy one in Bt Timah; similarly he talked down CAPL a lot , but secretly he wanted to enter at 2
can anyone be more pretentious?
Newbie
just saw this project..plus point = land size.
MRT...nothing to shout about. it's like a bald guy woke up the next morning and found himself having hair...jumping with joy. for others who have hair all along, what's the big deal.
bald = no MRT
with hair = MRT
no offense to those rich bald guys
btw same also applies to surroinding small projects..because of MRT asking for very much higher psf.
comparing to D9/D11, the surroundings are different. D10 - More public housing more convenient more congested
Senior
14 units sold in aug at 1537psf median.
Newbie
Music of the night
I have been to Guilin, Yunnan, Shanghai, Beijing, ChengDu, they are booming, everywhere condo construction. Big mall in Guilin selling Korean stuff hardly any customers but still surviving. The problem about China is the coastal cities are rich but if you move West, they are poor so ghost cities are real in the less developed region. However, they are not in danger of collapsing simply because they are competitive. 10d travel to China costs you 1k, 10d travel to Turkey cost you 1.8k, 10d travel to Egypt cost you 2.2k, 10d travel to Greece cost you 3.5k, 10d travel to London/Japan cost you 4k, get the picture?
Ride at your own risk !!!
Music of the night
Actually interested in D Leedon but odd shape units just put me off, the Iranian architect really don't understand basic Chinese Fengshui
Ride at your own risk !!!
Senior
This Iranian lady is too arrogant. Capitaland will have to cut her professional fees.
Junior
no lah, actually her design philo is organic and fluid non-regular shape... quite nice leh, problem is it calls for non-regular and customised furniture to complement the interior ~
Senior
The porta-cabin at Interlace are forming. It is better than the twisted D'Leedon.no lah, actually her design philo is organic and fluid non-regular shape... quite nice leh, problem is it calls for non-regular and customised furniture to complement the interior ~
Junior
if u notice some of the room edges or corners are actually rounded off instead of sharp angles.. this is quite nice and fit nicely with the architect's overall design. developer shld have made this consistent thru out the project instead of some here some there.
Senior
She may not have designed the internal part of the units. Famous architect will only design and the forms and shapes where the junior architects will develop the details.if u notice some of the room edges or corners are actually rounded off instead of sharp angles.. this is quite nice and fit nicely with the architect's overall design. developer shld have made this consistent thru out the project instead of some here some there.
Junior
there is one show flat think is the garden unit where the interior is designed by her and of cos has non-regular furniture, is quite nice leh.She may not have designed the internal part of the units. Famous architect will only design and the forms and shapes where the junior architects will develop the details.
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