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    Quote Originally Posted by xtink
    anyway, just came back from 100-lose garden.... left abt 30+ units, all 3+S and 4 BRs only. more agents than buyers....really mass mkt type of condo.
    I know what you mean ... but ... there is nothing much we can do ...

    Even a 5-year-old 99LH EC is sold at $637 psf, what do we expect the price of a new 999LH or FH "normal" condo to be?

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    Prices of Nuovo EC cross $600psf on 'Centro-effect'
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    There’s been a spurt in sales at Nuovo in Ang Mo Kio recently, after the executive condominium (EC) crossed the five-year minimum-occupation period. Seven units changed hands from Sept 4 to 11, according to caveats lodged with URA Realis. In 2006 and 2008, there was only one transaction each, and two deals in 2007. Owners who sold recently are taking advantage of the “Centro-effect”, caused by the launch of giant property developer Far East Organization’s 329-unit Centro Residences in Ang Mo Kio Avenue 8. Units there have been sold at an average of $1,179 psf from its launch in August to Sept 11, according to figures from URA Realis. Between Sept 4 and 11, an 893 sq ft unit sold for $1.07 million, or $1,199 psf.

    Given that it’s a private condominium, Centro Residences doesn’t have the same restrictions that Nuovo, an EC, has. Under HDB rules, owners of ECs are only allowed to sell their units to Singapore citizens or permanent residents five years after the project receives Temporary Occupation Permit (TOP), which, for the 297-unit Nuovo, was in 2004. It’s only 10 years after TOP that units in ECs can be traded like any other private condominium in the resale market, with sales to foreigners allowed as well.

    However, the owners of Nuovo should be delighted at transaction prices in the range of $477 to $637 psf, as they are the highest achieved since the property was launched at end-2001. Prices at that time were hovering at $400 psf.

    For instance, a 1,119 sq ft unit on the ninth floor went for $710,000, or $634 psf. This is a gain of 52% for the original owner, who had purchased it from developer City Developments Ltd (CDL) for $467,276 in 2002. A larger unit on the 17th floor went for $1.2 million, or $477 psf. The 2,594 sq ft condominium was purchased for $812,746 in 2001.

    Other condominiums along Ang Mo Kio Avenue 9 have also benefited from the Centro effect, with a unit at Far Horizon Gardens, a condominium completed in the 1980s, changing hands in the resale market at $508 psf last month, the highest price psf achieved in the project this year.

    Sellers are also benefiting from the recovery in the residential sector, which saw a marked 15.9% jump in the 3Q residential price index — the largest q-o-q increase seen in the index since 1981, according to URA’s 3Q flash estimate last week. As a result of this big increase, the 3Q price index is now 5.1% below that in 4Q2008 even though it registered a total decline of 18.1% in the first two quarters of 2009. The residential price index is more or less at the levels seen in 2Q2007.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amk
    sorry that's cheap.

    it's already HK$75,000 psf, for this project: http://www.thecullinan.com.hk/

    (SHK just raised price by 50% last month.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter
    Thanks for adding that.

    I think the S$15,000-psf (HK$75,000-psf) penthouses has not been sold yet. Nevertheless, it's only a matter of time before the Chinese lay their hands on them.
    S$15,000 psf?
    Sorry, that's cheap!

    It's S$20,000 psf (HK$100,000 psf)!!!!!!!!!!

    Interested party may view your units here:
    http://www.39conduitroad.com.hk/index.html

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    shk raised the price again?

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    saw a few units selling at 1100psf on iproperty and propertyguru

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    wow, that's was fast. earn 10-20% run road flippers.

    but i doubt there will be eager takers. it's not in the best of location.

    Is it true that usually projects that are 100% sold out are easier to flip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by URA
    Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of September 2009

    Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
    Hundred Trees .. OCR ........ 327 .......................... 327 ............................ 1,219 ............. 941 ............... 683
    Why $1,219 psf?

    Must 100 Trees be so jealous of Centro's $1,289 psf, Trevista's $1,222 psf and upcoming $1,200+ psf in Serangoon?

    Or these tress just want to join the OCR $1,200+ psf Club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter
    Why $1,219 psf?

    Must 100 Trees be so jealous of Centro's $1,289 psf, Trevista's $1,222 psf and upcoming $1,200+ psf in Serangoon?

    Or these tress just want to join the OCR $1,200+ psf Club?
    Do you know where can get the above figures for Highest, Median, Lowest psf?

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    Same one lor, where else ....

    Check out ura site, Sept report (under this category)
    Private Residential Units* Sold in the Month of September 2009

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    Private home sales slow
    By Joyce Teo, Property Correspondent

    Property buyers at the preview of the Hundred Trees condominium project located at West Coast Drive. -- ST PHOTO: SHAHRIYA YAHAYA
    DEVELOPERS sold 1,143 units of new, private homes in September, down from 1,804 units in August, after the Government introduced measures to prevent excessive price swings in the property market.
    They launched 1,413 units in September, down from 1,613 units in August, according to data released by the Urban Redevelopment Authority on Thursday.
    Hundred Trees in West Coast Drive was the top seller, with buyers picking 327 units at a median price of $941 per sq ft. Another project that sold well was The Interlace in Alexandra Road. It sold 243 units at a median price of $1,047 psf.
    Despite the continued drop in monthly sales, the units sold in September were nearly three times the 376 units sold in the same month a year ago.
    Singapore's home sales climbed to more than 13,000 in the first three quarters of the year, compared with the 4,300 sold for the whole of 2008, calculations by Bloomberg show. The increase in demand has already lifted home prices, with an index of private residential property prices surging 16 per cent last quarter.

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    I wonder if it will be top losers later also, when it comes to TOP time. Top seller doesn't mean or guarantee that it will be profitable.

    Anyway, looking at the economy and the general sentiments... It looks like that is quite unlikely...

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    already, i heard a few options for interlace has lapsed, i wonder if some will lapse for hundred trees as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Condorich
    I wonder if it will be top losers later also, when it comes to TOP time. Top seller doesn't mean or guarantee that it will be profitable.

    Anyway, looking at the economy and the general sentiments... It looks like that is quite unlikely...

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    Read about the news at Business Times today

    Big-spending budget to prop recovery next year
    Tharman indicates another deficit in 2010 but more targeted govt spending

    By CHUANG PECK MING AND FELDA CHAY

    They don't spend for nothing! Something needs to be done to prop recovery.. so that is the message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Condorich
    Read about the news at Business Times today

    Big-spending budget to prop recovery next year
    Tharman indicates another deficit in 2010 but more targeted govt spending

    By CHUANG PECK MING AND FELDA CHAY

    They don't spend for nothing! Something needs to be done to prop recovery.. so that is the message.
    Seems like this is part of a coordinated regional effort to ensure high growth in 2001.

    Quote Originally Posted by Today

    Chinese economy grows more than 7% in first 9 months
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    Tuesday, 20 October 2009, 5:55 am

    China's economy expanded more than 7% in the first 9 months of the year and will certainly surpass the year's growth target of 8%, a top economic official said yesterday.

    China is due to release official third quarter economic data on Thursday but, in a briefing, Mr Xiong Bilin, deputy director of the National Development and Reform Commission, told reporters yesterday the growth rate for January to September would be a bit above 7%.

    "Achieving a growth rate of 8% for the year is basically no problem,'' he said.

    Statistics for last month showed improving trade, housing sales, manufacturing and car sales. The data suggest resilience in retail sales and industrial production are helping offset the blow from falling exports.

    Separately, Mr Yu Bin, a senior researcher with the Development Research Centre, told a conference at the weekend that economic growth was forecast to exceed 9% in the second half of the year, financial magazine Caijing reported yesterday. The upbeat comments helped lift China's Shanghai Composite Index yesterday to a 1-month high of 3,038.27, up 61.64 points or 2.1%.

    Meanwhile, informal trade talks between Taiwan and China scheduled for this week have been delayed as Taipei officials will be busy answering Budget questions in Parliament. The negotiations are now likely to be put off until the end of the month, said Mr Huang Chih-peng, director of Taiwan's Bureau of Foreign Trade and the head of the island's delegation.

    Local media have reported the talks are expected to set a timetable for formal discussions. Taiwan's administration hopes the negotiations will lead to a trade agreement, which it says could lift the island's economic growth by 1% point.
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    Economy is on the mend
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    Monday, 19 October 2009

    Japan's economy - the world's second largest - is improving in all of the country's 9 areas as the nation emerged from its worst post-war recession, according to its central bank.

    "Signs of picking up had appeared throughout the economy, although regional differences remained," the Bank of Japan said in its quarterly regional report released yesterday.

    The report came after policy makers last week raised their evaluation of the economy for a second month, saying companies cut spending at a slower pace and their access to private funding improved.

    Governor Masaaki Shirakawa said yesterday the economy had started to "pick up", but added that domestic demand would remain "weak" and the policy board was concerned about risks to growth and prices.

    Some central bank board members said last month that the need for their emergency credit-easing measures was decreasing, according to minutes of the Sept 16 and 17 policy meeting also released yesterday.

    The remarks reinforced economists' expectations that the bank will let its programmes of purchasing corporate debt from lenders expire at the end of the year.

    Since lowering the benchmark interest rate to 0.1% in December, the central bank started buying commercial paper and corporate bonds from lenders and offering them unlimited loans backed by collateral to channel funds to companies. In July, the policy board extended the 3 plans to Dec 31.

    Mr Shirakawa said the board would persist with its policy of holding rates "very low" and maintaining a "very accommodative" stance.

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    Heard last phase was released and some options expired, any idea how many units there are left?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmet
    Heard last phase was released and some options expired, any idea how many units there are left?
    Expired? Looks like CDL made some extra-ordinary gains from these options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter
    Why $1,219 psf?

    Must 100 Trees be so jealous of Centro's $1,289 psf, Trevista's $1,222 psf and upcoming $1,200+ psf in Serangoon?

    Or these tress just want to join the OCR $1,200+ psf Club?
    Too bad! No $1,219 psf this time.

    Still have 24 units unsold at the end of October.

    Quote Originally Posted by URA
    Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of October 2009

    Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
    Hundred Trees .. OCR ......... 372 ......................... 52 .............................. 1,029 ............ 942 ............... 799

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    how u know?

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    if compare with sep figures, can deduce that 7 options expired. Data is available from URA website:

    http://www.ura.gov.sg/realEstateWeb/...ubmitSearch.do

    Quote Originally Posted by pmet
    how u know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter
    if compare with sep figures, can deduce that 7 options expired. Data is available from URA website:

    http://www.ura.gov.sg/realEstateWeb/...ubmitSearch.do
    and 12 for interlace.

    update: only after my post, i noted your posting (made 4 hours ago) on interlace thread

    hearsay expired options on the blocks not north south facing

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearly
    and 12 for interlace.

    update: only after my post, i noted your posting (made 4 hours ago) on interlace thread

    hearsay expired options on the blocks not north south facing
    If the expired options are not north-south facing, then it is the 1 and 2 bedroom units...which are highhly sorted by speculators.

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    Passed by the showflat every weekend. there are at most two or three pairs of slippers and flip flops at the entrance. this project will never be sold out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalingrad
    Passed by the showflat every weekend. there are at most two or three pairs of slippers and flip flops at the entrance. this project will never be sold out.
    Your point being?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xebay11
    Your point being?
    Maybe he meant Hong Leong will need a longer time to sell the remaining 24 units (or lesser, if there are unit sold in November todate)?

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    At least Hundred Trees is doing well relative to the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalingrad
    Passed by the showflat every weekend. there are at most two or three pairs of slippers and flip flops at the entrance. this project will never be sold out.
    excuse me but that last sentence was point-blank bias.

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    Per Straits Times last Sunday, Hundred Trees was the top #5 seller of Oct. It's the best in both consecutive months (Sep & Oct). It should be sold out before year end.

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    Hundred Trees unit transacted at 1500psf, true or false?

    Attached pic from URA website:
    HTree.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by flea
    Hundred Trees unit transacted at 1500psf, true or false?

    Attached pic from URA website:
    HTree.jpg
    URA website shows primary sales no $1,5xx psf yet.
    Not sure about subsale but very unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter
    URA website shows primary sales no $1,5xx psf yet.
    Not sure about subsale but very unlikely.
    You wish!!!!! Is it is true HUAT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cher


    You wish!!!!! Is it is true HUAT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
    The other website also show this unit sold at
    Address
    Tenure
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    Area Sqft
    Price
    Contract Date
    81 West Coast Drive #03-03
    956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
    $1517
    915
    $1387k
    02 Nov 09

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