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    Quote Originally Posted by kane
    how's tessarina i wonder with their new flood prevention barriers.
    What kind of flood barriers did they put? Sandbags?

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    Wasn't it in the papers they put up some barricades? Not as advanced as those in Orchard Rd of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kane
    Wasn't it in the papers they put up some barricades? Not as advanced as those in Orchard Rd of course.
    Wonder if the barriers are effective. See newspaper report below in TODAY tis mth:

    http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore...ing-the-waters

    Watching the waters


    CCTV monitoring trial along flood-prone Bukit Timah Canal


    by Leong Wee Keat
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    Singapore - Like security personnel watching out for unwelcome guests via closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras, the PUB may soon be using similar equipment to monitor the presence of an unwelcome guest - floods.

    The national water agency plans to install six cameras along Bukit Timah Canal and Jalan Haji Alias outlet drain, which will allow the PUB to remotely monitor the situation in real-time in the event of heavy rain.

    The PUB currently monitors road situations through the Land Transport Authority's (LTA) network of video cameras, but this is not enough. "We are installing more to ensure that PUB staff are able to monitor critical areas not covered by the LTA network," a PUB spokesperson said.

    According to tender documents, the six designated locations are: Pei Wah Avenue, King's Road, opposite Hillcrest Road, Anamalai Avenue, Coronation Road West (near Jalan Haji Alias) and Swiss Club Road.

    If the six-month trial proves successful, the PUB says it will eventually roll it out to other flood-prone areas that do not have CCTV cameras.

    While residents and tenants welcomed the move, some developments previously affected by floodwaters are not taking their chances. The Tessarina condominium along Wilby Road is installing two waist-high floodgates at its entrance to prevent floodwaters from entering its basement car park.

    The gates will close when the nearby Bukit Timah Canal is 90 per cent full, MediaCorp understands.

    And works to raise nearby Wilby Road by half a metre are complete.

    Drainage improvement works for the stretch of Bukit Timah Canal from Jalan Kampong Chantek to Maple Avenue commenced in late November, last year.

    Scheduled to be completed by December next year, this is the first stage of an overall drainage scheme to improve the Bukit Timah First Diversion Canal from Bukit Timah Road to Clementi Road.

    Some developments are mulling further flood prevention measures.

    Sixth Avenue Centre's estate managing agent, for example, has asked PUB to study the possibility of raising Anamalai Avenue and adjacent roads. A road hump will also be constructed at its car park entrance - the building's "weak point" - to alleviate the flooding.

    While he welcomes the measures, restaurant owner Hareesh Kumar, 34, is not leaving things to the authorities or the building management.

    Besides attending to patrons' needs, he has been keeping a close watch on the weather and the surrounding drains this past week.

    Floodwaters had previously submerged several vehicles in the basement carpark of Sixth Avenue Centre, where Mr Hareesh's restaurant is located and where he parks his van.

    He said: "If it rains heavily, I will quickly run a check on the carpark.

    "Ultimately, the management is not responsible if something happens. We just have to keep a close eye ourselves."





    A flood gate installed at The Tessarina off Bukit Timah Rd. Photo by WEE TECK HIAN

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    how does the flood gate works?

    only installed at carpark entrance? so car cannot move in and out of the carpark?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful
    how does the flood gate works?

    only installed at carpark entrance? so car cannot move in and out of the carpark?
    When it rains, i rather not drive into the carpark and wait outside.
    If car is in carpark, i think unable to drive because the flood would have turned your car upside down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mygeemeel
    When it rains, i rather not drive into the carpark and wait outside.
    If car is in carpark, i think unable to drive because the flood would have turned your car upside down.
    so, floodgate or not, these condos along buket timah are goners. I wouldn't buy them unless and until I give up my cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalingrad
    so, floodgate or not, these condos along buket timah are goners. I wouldn't buy them unless and until I give up my cars.
    For some people, having a Bukit Timah address is a dream. If prices do come down, i would really consider. But with global warming etc, i am very sure floods will continual to wreak havoc to all the properties along this stretch. It would be nightmares, no more dreams.

    Anyway, i recall many floods caused damages on an annual basis. Even to the landed props. Is this Bukit Timah or Longkang Timah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfoo
    thanks much for the advice sir, tis invaluable. yes mgs is a great choice - too bad its situated in a less than ideal locality. another school i like is scgs. unfortunately my wife has no affiliation, and unless my methodist boys school goes coed, i'm stuck. i'm hoping that mgs etc starts charging school fees marked to market, but that's slim. toh tuck etc is more than 1km rite?
    Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood I thought you were looking for more than 1Km options when you said `non 1Km'.

    Yeah, its more than 1 KM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mygeemeel
    For some people, having a Bukit Timah address is a dream. If prices do come down, i would really consider. But with global warming etc, i am very sure floods will continual to wreak havoc to all the properties along this stretch. It would be nightmares, no more dreams.

    Anyway, i recall many floods caused damages on an annual basis. Even to the landed props. Is this Bukit Timah or Longkang Timah?
    previously, the flooding if i remember correctly affected the NJC, HCJC area. then with the expansion of the canal there, the flooding hasn't happened in years. With the kind of freakish weather the world's experiencing, I would seriously think twice of getting that stretch, unless it's perched on higher ground. like perhaps the Shelford area or something.

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    Don't think that will help as residents there still get trap and cannot drive out to Durnearn Road if Dunern road is flooded badly.

    Quote Originally Posted by kane
    previously, the flooding if i remember correctly affected the NJC, HCJC area. then with the expansion of the canal there, the flooding hasn't happened in years. With the kind of freakish weather the world's experiencing, I would seriously think twice of getting that stretch, unless it's perched on higher ground. like perhaps the Shelford area or something.

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    This flood is only a once off incident?
    If so, do we need to be overconcern?
    As time passed, I think people will forget about
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    Unfortunately no due to climate change. The problem will get worse if the drainage system is not improved significantly along bukit timah road. In fact Singapore's entire drainage + reservior system + (sea) flood control should be re-designed because the weather will become more erratic.

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    I think u guys have been brainwashed by the mainstream media. Please stop blaming the weather or climate change. The weather is NOT that much more erratic than the past. Those days that had serious floodings around Singapore were not anywhere near the highest rainfall in Singapore history. It's just that we have added some much more concrete and increase the population density on this tiny island without upgrading the drainage system. It's not the weather's fault. It's human's fault.

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    The floodings in Singapore last year was largely due to La Nina, but it was intensified by climate change http://environment.about.com/od/glob...ninolanina.htm

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    Today ST page c9' colour ad promoting "immediate occupation, new release of choice units", no sign of discounts or furniture vouchers / rebates

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    Since it has already TOP, if the units is still not sold or rented out, the owners will be slowly bleeding from the maintenance fee, property tax and interest. If the rental market is really that good, then the owners would have rented out and collect the rental instead of selling the units.

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    What do you think? Overpriced or buyers are spoilt for choices?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mygeemeel
    What do you think? Overpriced or buyers are spoilt for choices?
    More because of the choices with more than 100+ units owned by fund waiting to offload or rent out, this is overwhelming. Average price of $1400+ psf FH at current market is at most slightly overpriced. Perhaps learning lesson for buyers, if project has substantial % of units bought by Fund or single party, may not be good as decision of this major stakeholder has overwhelming impact of the project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingkong1984
    Fund play, u buy to eat only. Dun play.
    A lesson indeed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by land118
    More because of the choices with more than 100+ units owned by fund waiting to offload or rent out, this is overwhelming. Average price of $1400+ psf FH at current market is at most slightly overpriced. Perhaps learning lesson for buyers, if project has substantial % of units bought by Fund or single party, may not be good as decision of this major stakeholder has overwhelming impact of the project.

    anyway ...so many people in the firum say ,,,rental is picking up ..(which i dont see at all) .... then rent out lor ...

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    Rental is picking up lah! My tenants paying more for my properties (all in CCR) upon renewal for past few months!
    All the talk about over-supply of private properties in CCR don't need to care because rentals are just going up if you bother to ask for more and stick to your gun (tenants will always want to pay less and give over-supply as reasons to negotiate)!

    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    anyway ...so many people in the firum say ,,,rental is picking up ..(which i dont see at all) .... then rent out lor ...

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    %-wise, how much more are your tenants paying?

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    about 5-10%.

    Quote Originally Posted by spikey69
    %-wise, how much more are your tenants paying?

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    Just renewed my rental for one of my units in CCR.... 8% more...signed for two years.... Tenant wanted three I said no lol.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    anyway ...so many people in the firum say ,,,rental is picking up ..(which i dont see at all) .... then rent out lor ...
    This is what I really don't understand.... 1400+ psf for Cascadia against 900+
    to 1k+ psf for Canberra condo and waterfronT Isle and people flock to buy the latter two condo rather than Cascadia?

    I know the units in Cascadia is a bit too close to each other, but in terms of location many times better but costs only 40% more and the up graders flock to these OCR properties.....

    Any comments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCR
    This is what I really don't understand.... 1400+ psf for Cascadia against 900+
    to 1k+ psf for Canberra condo and waterfronT Isle and people flock to buy the latter two condo rather than Cascadia?

    I know the units in Cascadia is a bit too close to each other, but in terms of location many times better but costs only 40% more and the up graders flock to these OCR properties.....

    Any comments?
    Think there may be many reasons, some of which I feel:

    A. Upgraders more comfortable to live in same estate or closely where they reside now

    B. Quantum value; say an upgrader in OCR sell his 5 rm for $500k-$600k, buy Canberra or waterfront isle, 3 room, say $1-1.1m (just squeeze a bit), it is only double of their hdb, but if buy Cascadia or similar condo, may have to fork out $1.5m and above, 3 times their Hdb flat value, can be quite "siong"

    C. Perspection that certain areas are beyond their reach, not well informed, just follow "herd" instinct, neighbors say nearby got new condo launch, so go look look see see, also put down cheque and buy

    There could be others...., do list them if u know of their reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCR
    This is what I really don't understand.... 1400+ psf for Cascadia against 900+
    to 1k+ psf for Canberra condo and waterfronT Isle and people flock to buy the latter two condo rather than Cascadia?

    I know the units in Cascadia is a bit too close to each other, but in terms of location many times better but costs only 40% more and the up graders flock to these OCR properties.....

    Any comments?
    1.4kpsf is still ex...12xxpsf more reasonable as its not really close to MRT....might as well use simei 99LH manhanttan high flr 1bedder at 1.4kpsf to compare....den all shd grab cascadia at 1.4kpsf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilplate
    1.4kpsf is still ex...12xxpsf more reasonable as its not really close to MRT....might as well use simei 99LH manhanttan high flr 1bedder at 1.4kpsf to compare....den all shd grab cascadia at 1.4kpsf?
    Ya, premium for next to MRT is quite high now. I mean for those next to MRT. Manhantan really living up to it's name....Bukit Timah vs Simei, almost same price, FH vs 99LH, Allgreen vs CEL (Chip Eng Seng HDB specialist ), if buyers of Manhanttan know this, will they still buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by land118
    Ya, premium for next to MRT is quite high now. I mean for those next to MRT. Manhantan really living up to it's name....Bukit Timah vs Simei, almost same price, FH vs 99LH, Allgreen vs CEL (Chip Eng Seng HDB specialist ), if buyers of Manhanttan know this, will they still buy?
    dun have to use cascadia lor....just use double bay subsale oredi can scare them off? hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by land118
    Think there may be many reasons, some of which I feel:

    A. Upgraders more comfortable to live in same estate or closely where they reside now

    B. Quantum value; say an upgrader in OCR sell his 5 rm for $500k-$600k, buy Canberra or waterfront isle, 3 room, say $1-1.1m (just squeeze a bit), it is only double of their hdb, but if buy Cascadia or similar condo, may have to fork out $1.5m and above, 3 times their Hdb flat value, can be quite "siong"

    C. Perspection that certain areas are beyond their reach, not well informed, just follow "herd" instinct, neighbors say nearby got new condo launch, so go look look see see, also put down cheque and buy

    There could be others...., do list them if u know of their reason
    Then these up graders will definitely lose out long term if they keep looking at quantum..... Pricing of condo in orchard and bukit timah is at least 2-3 times more when it's only 5-10 mins drive.... And Canberra is another 20 to 30 mins drive from bucket timah and it's only 50 percent more? Strange right? And cascade will have met soon as well...

    I think it's more the fact they just assume they cannot afford prime and high class area so don't bother to look.... Plus their parents sure ask them to stay near them and hence Bo Bian coz wanna stay condo so just buy.... Never think about future investment returns.....

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