Optima (D16, 99 years leasehold, TID <Hong Leong / Mitsui Fudosan>)

**Pro888** · 19-09-12, 14:55

Originally Posted by easteast

Attachment 4543
optima sea view from storey 10

This will be gone once the empty plot develop. Can only view the track

**westin** · 19-09-12, 14:55

Sobz...The exterior of optima looks like a DBSS..... even the one at simei Parc Lumiere looks better than optima....

**blackpepperj** · 19-09-12, 16:05

Originally Posted by westin

Sobz...The exterior of optima looks like a DBSS..... even the one at simei Parc Lumiere looks better than optima....

Another one who cannot see tennis court, security guard house, wall/fencing

Want something better? Then pay for Sky Habitat lor. Get real.

**Yellow Horse** · 19-09-12, 17:58

Originally Posted by blackpepperj

Another one who cannot see tennis court, security guard house, wall/fencing

Want something better? Then pay for Sky Habitat lor. Get real.

And also, that parc lumiere got ZINC roof carpark!
Maybe he like cheapo stuff?

**GSLJ** · 19-09-12, 21:16

Originally Posted by Daniel Foo

Happened to pop in to see some of the units in this project. The quality of furnishings used is horrible..

The door and bedroom cabinet used by Optima looks like for industrial building and the overall facet and layout looks a bit odd and plain.

The only plus point of this project I can comment on is the gym which is quite impressive and the lift lobby area which looks quite decent....

Any comments from others who viewed this project??

Furnishings can change, most important good location and convenience. If for own stay best with great neighbors too!

**GSLJ** · 19-09-12, 21:21

Originally Posted by easteast

Attachment 4543
optima sea view from storey 10

Nice view, pretty far though.

**bakasa2002** · 19-09-12, 22:34

Originally Posted by Pro888

This will be gone once the empty plot develop. Can only view the track

It's unlikely to get block cos the plot in front of optima is for low-rise unless it sits on exceptionally high terrain but I don't see it being higher terrain.

**Laguna** · 19-09-12, 22:46

When I drove pass, my son said,

these HDB flats look ok....

**easteast** · 20-09-12, 01:50

i didn't know hdb or dbss got fence, tennis court and swimming pool......s g....

**kane** · 20-09-12, 08:18

Originally Posted by Laguna

When I drove pass, my son said,

these HDB flats look ok....

Hdb should feel glad their new homes are looking more like condo.

**Yellow Horse** · 20-09-12, 08:26

Originally Posted by Laguna

When I drove pass, my son said,

these HDB flats look ok....

Yr son six year old? Cannot tell between HDB and condo?
It cost more than Eco thou

**thomastansb** · 20-09-12, 11:42

DBSS or HDB or Condo, who cares. As long as rental is good, isn't it? You want good looking condos, you can't find in suburban. Face the hard truth. You get what you pay for. You expect to pay $1000 psf and get a solid looking $3000 psf condo??? Wake up please.

Anyway, I think studio there are renting out around 2.8 to 3k or 7% yield for first buyers. Or 5% yield for second buyers. That is pretty alright from an investor point of view.

Just my 2 cents.

**easteast** · 21-09-12, 02:00

Originally Posted by thomastansb

DBSS or HDB or Condo, who cares. As long as rental is good, isn't it? You want good looking condos, you can't find in suburban. Face the hard truth. You get what you pay for. You expect to pay $1000 psf and get a solid looking $3000 psf condo??? Wake up please.

Anyway, I think studio there are renting out around 2.8 to 3k or 7% yield for first buyers. Or 5% yield for second buyers. That is pretty alright from an investor point of view.

Just my 2 cents.

well said,totally agree with u..

**GSLJ** · 22-09-12, 17:25

I find this project very nicely done up

**Chillyred888** · 23-09-12, 18:16

Originally Posted by GSLJ

I find this project very nicely done up

yes, yes and the landscaping is so beautiful especially at night

**thomastansb** · 23-09-12, 22:29

I finally paid a visit to this condo - thanks to a friend who is showing his tenant his unit today. To verify claims about it being a DBSS or HDB.

Well, from far, coming from Bedok, I can't tell if it is DBSS or Condo. To those who say it look like HDB, they are either sour grapes or are having serious eyes problems. When it is nearing, the tennis court, the fencing and also the different quality clearly shows it is a Condo. No way I can mistaken it for a DBSS.

When I went in, the entrance is nicely done up. To be frank, the entrance is much better than many projects. Even the more expensive One Amber is no match for Optima. The glass roof + infinity pool glass backing is solid - especially for a first timer like me. The gym is fully equipped too but it is a pity there is no TV. There are not a lot of units (< 300 I think) but the gym is as if it is catered for 500 units. BBQ pits are normal. Lobby is normal looking but it is a bit dark for 1st floor. 2nd floor onwards are fine. Basement is gorgeous btw. Looked very much like the Seaview.

When I went into my friend's unit, I would rate the quality and built 8.5 / 10. The toilet looks good but everything else is what you would expect from a suburban condo.

That is all. Btw, my friend rented out his studio at $2,950 FF. Asked for 3k but negotiated $50 lower. The yield is fantastic considering he bought his unit around 480k.

**Yellow Horse** · 23-09-12, 23:42

Originally Posted by thomastansb

I finally paid a visit to this condo - thanks to a friend who is showing his tenant his unit today. To verify claims about it being a DBSS or HDB.

Well, from far, coming from Bedok, I can't tell if it is DBSS or Condo. To those who say it look like HDB, they are either sour grapes or are having serious eyes problems. When it is nearing, the tennis court, the fencing and also the different quality clearly shows it is a Condo. No way I can mistaken it for a DBSS.

When I went in, the entrance is nicely done up. To be frank, the entrance is much better than many projects. Even the more expensive One Amber is no match for Optima. The glass roof + infinity pool glass backing is solid - especially for a first timer like me. The gym is fully equipped too but it is a pity there is no TV. There are not a lot of units (< 300 I think) but the gym is as if it is catered for 500 units. BBQ pits are normal. Lobby is normal looking but it is a bit dark for 1st floor. 2nd floor onwards are fine. Basement is gorgeous btw. Looked very much like the Seaview.

When I went into my friend's unit, I would rate the quality and built 8.5 / 10. The toilet looks good but everything else is what you would expect from a suburban condo.

That is all. Btw, my friend rented out his studio at $2,950 FF. Asked for 3k but negotiated $50 lower. The yield is fantastic considering he bought his unit around 480k.

Well said

:

**azeoprop** · 23-09-12, 23:54

1 bedroom can rent $2950!!!

Over 7% rental yield!!

Wow...those who queued at the showflat that night have their efforts paid off.

**Yellow Horse** · 23-09-12, 23:58

Originally Posted by thomastansb

I finally paid a visit to this condo - thanks to a friend who is showing his tenant his unit today. To verify claims about it being a DBSS or HDB.........

Well said

:

Some were seen considering between Optima and Eco. Well it's fine to compare. Since Eco is cheaper, they bought a unit there, but back here to say Optima look HDB.

**price** · 23-09-12, 23:58

Originally Posted by azeoprop

1 bedroom can rent $2950!!!

Over 7% rental yield!!

Wow...those who queued at the showflat that night have their efforts paid off.

yea omg, tanah merah @ $2950!?

lets see how much the studios in punggol will rent for.

**propertychap** · 24-09-12, 00:01

who are the people who pay this type of rent?

**Yellow Horse** · 24-09-12, 00:18

Originally Posted by propertychap

who are the people who pay this type of rent?

Probably expats working in the east who has housing subsidy from company.
Stewards and stewardesses, pilots too perhaps?

**kane** · 24-09-12, 00:37

Originally Posted by Yellow Horse

Probably expats working in the east who has housing subsidy from company.
Stewards and stewardesses, pilots too perhaps?

pilots could easily afford their own pad rather than to rent i reckon.

**easteast** · 24-09-12, 01:16

Originally Posted by thomastansb

I finally paid a visit to this condo - thanks to a friend who is showing his tenant his unit today. To verify claims about it being a DBSS or HDB.

Well, from far, coming from Bedok, I can't tell if it is DBSS or Condo. To those who say it look like HDB, they are either sour grapes or are having serious eyes problems. When it is nearing, the tennis court, the fencing and also the different quality clearly shows it is a Condo. No way I can mistaken it for a DBSS.

When I went in, the entrance is nicely done up. To be frank, the entrance is much better than many projects. Even the more expensive One Amber is no match for Optima. The glass roof + infinity pool glass backing is solid - especially for a first timer like me. The gym is fully equipped too but it is a pity there is no TV. There are not a lot of units (< 300 I think) but the gym is as if it is catered for 500 units. BBQ pits are normal. Lobby is normal looking but it is a bit dark for 1st floor. 2nd floor onwards are fine. Basement is gorgeous btw. Looked very much like the Seaview.

When I went into my friend's unit, I would rate the quality and built 8.5 / 10. The toilet looks good but everything else is what you would expect from a suburban condo.

That is all. Btw, my friend rented out his studio at $2,950 FF. Asked for 3k but negotiated $50 lower. The yield is fantastic considering he bought his unit around 480k.

yup even all the block lift lobby at basement also air-conditioner..

**Chillyred888** · 24-09-12, 07:25

Originally Posted by kane

pilots could easily afford their own pad rather than to rent i reckon.

why not rent?
I have some friends working as pilots rather rent / share with fellow tenant reason being he is outstation most of the time and he already owned properties overseas

**Chillyred888** · 24-09-12, 07:28

Originally Posted by easteast

yup even all the block lift lobby at basement also air-conditioner..

lift lobby also come with Marble wall and flooring! so gorgeous..i love love!

**Laguna** · 24-09-12, 09:01

Originally Posted by Yellow Horse

Yr son six year old? Cannot tell between HDB and condo?
It cost more than Eco thou

Ooops, u must hv very strong interest in Optima. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion....

I am very happy Optima is more costly than eCO. Just wonder, how much the Optima owners made so far from the launched price...

**carbuncle** · 24-09-12, 09:48

how much the maintenance for 1br?

can't compare tm which is landed enclave with punggoo hdb town

**thomastansb** · 24-09-12, 11:09

People who can't afford to pay $4,000 rental near the city but yet want to reach city in 15 mins? The MRT is a winner here I feel. But as I said, don't expect a gorgeous and fanciful looking condo. They don't exist in suburban, period. You don't pay 1k psf and expect it to look like Orchard Residences.

Originally Posted by propertychap

who are the people who pay this type of rent?

**Emma** · 24-09-12, 11:14

heard from a friend who heard from an agent that a buyer made about close to 500K on one unit at optima from launch till recent sale.
hope our eco's psf will also go up and up!

Originally Posted by Laguna

Ooops, u must hv very strong interest in Optima. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion....

I am very happy Optima is more costly than eCO. Just wonder, how much the Optima owners made so far from the launched price...

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