Optima (D16, 99 years leasehold, TID <Hong Leong / Mitsui Fudosan>)

[shespawn]

wah, this thread hijack until talk about food in the east ah? I just add one for WFW owners... Bedok Reservoir road, next to the Singaporepools store, there is a zi char stall called Super Lucky Restaurant around Blk 741. very cheap zi char. sunday morning, their porridge is very nice also. or even more cheapo, just order their mixed veg rice, also very good.

[wreckwrx]

I am not a vegetarian and not intending to be one. But in order to have the same amount of meat to fill a person, we need 10-15 times more wheat or grain to feed the poultry / animal.

I can appreacite being vegetarian coz of religious or health purposes but I find it harder to fathom if the reason for being vegetarian is to save the earth.

IMO, moderation is key regardless whether u are vegetarian, canivore, omnivore or even cannibal especially it comes to saving the earth. No point ordering portions that can feed up to 10 persons when there are only 3 persons at the table. We will just end up with loads of wastage and at lot of resources are being churned up just to process our waste. Just walk around the restaurants and hawker centers or even people's dinner table at home and it's criminal how some of us waste food.

[jitkiat]

I can appreacite being vegetarian coz of religious or health purposes but I find it harder to fathom if the reason for being vegetarian is to save the earth.

IMO, moderation is key regardless whether u are vegetarian, canivore, omnivore or even cannibal especially it comes to saving the earth. No point ordering portions that can feed up to 10 persons when there are only 3 persons at the table. We will just end up with loads of wastage and at lot of resources are being churned up just to process our waste. Just walk around the restaurants and hawker centers or even people's dinner table at home and it's criminal how some of us waste food.

Well said, moderation is key.

Certain religious view on vegetarianism has relationship to saving the earth. In Buddhism, the Earth is a projection of common karmic force of living things on Earth. Killing animals (for food, for fur, for fun) generate negative karmic forces that may result in natural disaster, deterioration to environment & war. In Christianity, Genesis actually asking humans to take good care of animals. However, after the Noah incident, humans are allowed to eat meat (guess after the flood, no vegetable to eat :-)

In short, Earth will become pure land if every one of us has a pure mind. I will stop here

[wreckwrx]

Apologies people! Didn't mean to drift in this thread....

[venus]

Lately i hv been pondering what kind of diet I should adopt. During one of my visits to my gynae, he kept preaching abt vegetarian diet is better. Ask me to cut out all meat and dairy. Then recently I had some digestive problem and went to see GI and the doc told me to cut out all fibres (grains, wheat, fruits, vege). * sigh* then what am I gonna eat? meat cannot vege cannot.

[jitkiat]

Lately i hv been pondering what kind of diet I should adopt. During one of my visits to my gynae, he kept preaching abt vegetarian diet is better. Ask me to cut out all meat and dairy. Then recently I had some digestive problem and went to see GI and the doc told me to cut out all fibres (grains, wheat, fruits, vege). * sigh* then what am I gonna eat? meat cannot vege cannot.

IMO, digestive problem see TCM doctor better. Recommend the specialist clinic in Changi general Hospital, the doctor's surname is Chen. Come with powder, no need to boil herbs.

[venus]

IMO, digestive problem see TCM doctor better. Recommend the specialist clinic in Changi general Hospital, the doctor's surname is Chen. Come with powder, no need to boil herbs.

Hospital got TCM clinic?

[driftwave]

further down, at the other end of the junction with the SAVE SAVE SAVE prime mart opp....
u r lucky it did not turn out to be karma sutra forum.....

tats why Bedok is a good place to Live, Eat & Play!....whahahaha.......

Blk 216 is the hawker ctr next to bedok interchange?

OMG am I in the right forum... this isn't mankansutra forum is it?

[driftwave]

tats y u have to live beside reservoir and drink water only.....

Lately i hv been pondering what kind of diet I should adopt. During one of my visits to my gynae, he kept preaching abt vegetarian diet is better. Ask me to cut out all meat and dairy. Then recently I had some digestive problem and went to see GI and the doc told me to cut out all fibres (grains, wheat, fruits, vege). * sigh* then what am I gonna eat? meat cannot vege cannot.

[jitkiat]

Hospital got TCM clinic?

Yes. But it is not cheap. Expect to pay above 50

[kEN9170]

http://www.h88.com.sg/article/Condo+...0+Tanah+Merah/

[venus]

Yes. But it is not cheap. Expect to pay above 50

wah so really not cheap. Think I rather just drink water from bedok reservoir

[jitkiat]

wah so really not cheap. Think I rather just drink water from bedok reservoir

I am willing to pay 10 times more if the doctor can find the root cause and cure me. Otherwise, 20SGD also is expensive.

What kind of condition cannot eat food with fibre ... IBS? Frequent abdominal pain followed by diarrhea? I studied TCM b4 so curious to know.

[noblebaby]

yeah. so start flipping your Optima, and get the WFW since so many crazy ppl at WFW

wah so really not cheap. Think I rather just drink water from bedok reservoir

[venus]

What kind of condition cannot eat food with fibre ... IBS? Frequent abdominal pain followed by diarrhea? I studied TCM b4 so curious to know.

Yes IBS which causes a lot of gas pain and fibre will aggrevate it. My doc also mentioned that a lot of ppl hv the misconception that increasing fibre intake will help to alleviate constipation. But truth is it will make it worse. Fibre cannot be digested and it will only add bulk to your bowels. Put it simply, if your colon is already "clogged up" and you keep adding indigestible fibre to it your sh** get even bulkier and thus even harder to pass.

[venus]

yeah. so start flipping your Optima, and get the WFW since so many crazy ppl at WFW

So easy to flip meh? already ppl are saying im bound to lose money cos nobody will be willing to pay for my pes.

[venus]

I am willing to pay 10 times more if the doctor can find the root cause and cure me. Otherwise, 20SGD also is expensive.

Was just kidding about the reservoir water lah. Actually i spent 30 times more just to find out the root of my problem

[Honesty]

Yes IBS which causes a lot of gas pain and fibre will aggrevate it. My doc also mentioned that a lot of ppl hv the misconception that increasing fibre intake will help to alleviate constipation. But truth is it will make it worse. Fibre cannot be digested and it will only add bulk to your bowels. Put it simply, if your colon is already "clogged up" and you keep adding indigestible fibre to it your sh** get even bulkier and thus even harder to pass.

Ya, you are right, I think all we need is a balance diet. A good mixed of meat and vegetable and drink enough of water everyday. (not reservoir water please).

Got money can also buy some fruits to eat...

Don't anyhow buy expensive house now.

[jitkiat]

Yes IBS which causes a lot of gas pain and fibre will aggrevate it. My doc also mentioned that a lot of ppl hv the misconception that increasing fibre intake will help to alleviate constipation. But truth is it will make it worse. Fibre cannot be digested and it will only add bulk to your bowels. Put it simply, if your colon is already "clogged up" and you keep adding indigestible fibre to it your sh** get even bulkier and thus even harder to pass.

You may want to read this:

http://www.tcmpage.com/hpirritable_bowel.html

In Singapore, more common is Spleen-Liver disharmony (means stress-induced) or damp heat (means infection).

[driftwave]

u can try...just like fishing....if kena good....if not u don't lose anything....

So easy to flip meh? already ppl are saying im bound to lose money cos nobody will be willing to pay for my pes.

[venus]

u can try...just like fishing....if kena good....if not u don't lose anything....

I refuse to be a flipper. I detest those agents who buy gd units themselves and then flip it to genuine home buyers. I suspect the agents are the ones who's fueling the frenzy.

[venus]

You may want to read this:

http://www.tcmpage.com/hpirritable_bowel.html

In Singapore, more common is Spleen-Liver disharmony (means stress-induced) or damp heat (means infection).

Thanks thats a very gd article. Think i might just try out TCM....

[jitkiat]

I refuse to be a flipper. I detest those agents who buy gd units themselves and then flip it to genuine home buyers. I suspect the agents are the ones who's fueling the frenzy.

Or they will be the first one burnt when the tide turns. 600psf for PES unit @ optima is very reasonable so nothing to worry.

[venus]

Or they will be the first one burnt when the tide turns. 600psf for PES unit @ optima is very reasonable so nothing to worry.

Ya anyway its for own staying so I'm not too concerned even if bubble burst.

I think the rumor abt agents flipping gd units is quite rampant. At the optima I overheard a conversation btw 2 agents.

agent A: Think I'll be getting the 2 br unit. how abt u?
agent B: Cannot leh....
agent A: oh ya u just bought the other one. that one confirm make money...

But Im quite glad TID went with balloting system. Fairer and more transparent. Pricelist also on wall for all to see.

[venus]

Or they will be the first one burnt when the tide turns. 600psf for PES unit @ optima is very reasonable so nothing to worry.

Ya anyway its for own staying so I'm not too concerned even if bubble burst.

I think the rumor abt agents flipping gd units is quite rampant. At the optima I overheard a conversation btw 2 agents.

agent A: Think I'll be getting the 2 br unit. how abt u?
agent B: Cannot leh....
agent A: oh ya u just bought the other one. that one confirm make money...

But Im quite glad TID went with balloting system. Fairer and more transparent. Pricelist also on wall for all to see.

[driftwave]

In ur case, its not call flipping....but change of location....at the end of the day...not for profit but change to a place with more crazy and friendly neighbours...whahahaha....

I refuse to be a flipper. I detest those agents who buy gd units themselves and then flip it to genuine home buyers. I suspect the agents are the ones who's fueling the frenzy.

[noblebaby]

DBR owner also come chatting with WFW owner... must be boring there... no crazy ppl to talk to...

In ur case, its not call flipping....but change of location....at the end of the day...not for profit but change to a place with more crazy and friendly neighbours...whahahaha....

[driftwave]

cos they dun get chatty neighbours there....hahaha.....

DBR owner also come chatting with WFW owner... must be boring there... no crazy ppl to talk to...

[etml]

cos they dun get chatty neighbours there....hahaha.....

u guys are the best!!

Frankly speaking i do like WFW. If not because of the PES size i would like became your future neighbour long ago

[kEN9170]

Oh so sad...care to elaborate more on PES size? Too big or too small?

u guys are the best!!

Frankly speaking i do like WFW. If not because of the PES size i would like became your future neighbour long ago