8@Woodleigh (D13, 99 years Leasehold, Fraser Centrepoint)

**sleek** · 19-08-09, 15:44

Originally Posted by yokoosi

what is the liveable space as compared with Heritage? psf is no longer a good measure if you have big balcony and large bay windows. when 8@W TOP, how many years left? 99, 98, 97,....years?

"Even those who bought it last year have yet to recover their value" - How much more you think buyer at 8@W can sell or flip?

Heritage buyer bought "high" during bloom also cannot recover, buyers from 8@W bought even higher, but during recession.....

Well... to each his own. And at this price level for LH99 units, its your decision to go ahead and buy Heritage View.

**alamak** · 19-08-09, 17:39

Originally Posted by yokoosi

what is the liveable space as compared with Heritage? psf is no longer a good measure if you have big balcony and large bay windows. when 8@W TOP, how many years left? 99, 98, 97,....years?

"Even those who bought it last year have yet to recover their value" - How much more you think buyer at 8@W can sell or flip?

Heritage buyer bought "high" during bloom also cannot recover, buyers from 8@W bought even higher, but during recession.....

Whatever it is, I am still waiting patiently like a vulture .

. the good thing about not committing yet is that you have time to look see look see .. i'm sure 2010/2011/2012 will be a great time to buy for good value b'cos there will be many many completed n near-TOP projects to choose.. from Flippers especially .. I don't mind good location FH project especially ..

**yokoosi** · 19-08-09, 18:03

Originally Posted by sleek

Well... to each his own. And at this price level for LH99 units, its your decision to go ahead and buy Heritage View.

Agreed, to each his own. Anyway, i am not buying Heritage View. I am now in nego with an agent on a FH but different location. Will update you guys if it is successful, if not the hunts begin again....

Like alamak, i am not in the rush as this will be my second unit. Good Luck and happy house hunting.

**azeoprop** · 21-08-09, 17:17

Construction has begun.

**sleek** · 21-08-09, 18:23

Cool!

**new2mondrian** · 21-08-09, 18:26

Originally Posted by azeoprop

Construction has begun.

oh good!!!

hopefully all the piling can be finished within the next 6 mths.

**5577** · 22-08-09, 15:03

Originally Posted by new2mondrian

oh good!!!

hopefully all the piling can be finished within the next 6 mths.

Wah... isn't 6mths a short time to get all piling done???

Like that means we can all get our keys in mid 2012?

**sleek** · 22-08-09, 15:38

Originally Posted by 5577

Wah... isn't 6mths a short time to get all piling done???

Like that means we can all get our keys in mid 2012?

Think 6 months is reasonable for Piliing Works la. So if can TOP mid-2012 will be bonus?

**5577** · 22-08-09, 15:43

Originally Posted by sleek

Think 6 months is reasonable for Piliing Works la. So if can TOP mid-2012 will be bonus?

Am hoping for it to TOP asap...... nowa days developer build apartments like play lego...... should be quite fast right???

**azeoprop** · 22-08-09, 18:22

Ha ha Lego...don't become like that Shanghai condo topple over before top can liaoz haa haa...

**5577** · 22-08-09, 18:37

Originally Posted by azeoprop

Ha ha Lego...don't become like that Shanghai condo topple over before top can liaoz haa haa...

Aiya... dun be so skeptical. SG government too strict to allow this to happen... besides, FCL has got good reputation. Won't allow such thisng to happen lah...

Dun you think that the pre-fabs look like lego blocks? ... just add on accessories like windows and ta...da... you get the units up?

**scsc** · 24-08-09, 11:01

Originally Posted by 5577

Aiya... dun be so skeptical. SG government too strict to allow this to happen... besides, FCL has got good reputation. Won't allow such thisng to happen lah...

Dun you think that the pre-fabs look like lego blocks? ... just add on accessories like windows and ta...da... you get the units up?

hmm... built with safety in mind... Zero major accident best!
then owner also feel safe of mind...

legos? hmm... dun mind they pre-fab the showroom, then can save up by replacing 1 brick wall with glass wall...

Any ideas if contractor can do it to our request (replacing 1 brick wall of room next to living hall with glass wall)?

**sleek** · 24-08-09, 11:22

There are 2 excavators on site this morning liao.

**new2mondrian** · 24-08-09, 11:39

wow, u guys are checking out the site on a daily basis is it? How's Parc Mondrian coming along? Did u see since it's across the road?

**sleek** · 24-08-09, 11:46

Originally Posted by new2mondrian

wow, u guys are checking out the site on a daily basis is it? How's Parc Mondrian coming along? Did u see since it's across the road?

Drive by only la, so can't really see what's happening for Parc Mondrian from the road. Will update you if have the time to go walk the area.

**new2mondrian** · 24-08-09, 12:02

Originally Posted by sleek

Drive by only la, so can't really see what's happening for Parc Mondrian from the road. Will update you if have the time to go walk the area.

great! thanks a million!

**proud owner** · 24-08-09, 13:06

Originally Posted by 5577

Am hoping for it to TOP asap...... nowa days developer build apartments like play lego...... should be quite fast right???

nowadays developers delay as much as possible ... to create 'shortage' of ready units ...to 'push' price higher

in the past boom era .. everyday got 12000 units ready ... since 2007-now and till 2012 every yr only 8000 ish units ready ... so manipulated ...

even URA initial estimate 13000 units ..lowered to 8000 ish ..

so fake

so is there a real shortage ??? or man-made wonder ?

**sleek** · 24-08-09, 13:28

Originally Posted by proud owner

nowadays developers delay as much as possible ... to create 'shortage' of ready units ...to 'push' price higher

in the past boom era .. everyday got 12000 units ready ... since 2007-now and till 2012 every yr only 8000 ish units ready ... so manipulated ...

even URA initial estimate 13000 units ..lowered to 8000 ish ..

so fake

so is there a real shortage ??? or man-made wonder ?

The same goes for other products la. All manufacturers will limit oversupply so as to maintain the price level. Nothing new.

**5577** · 24-08-09, 13:50

Originally Posted by scsc

Any ideas if contractor can do it to our request (replacing 1 brick wall of room next to living hall with glass wall)?

I dun think developer will do that lo.... those are considered ID work leh.... ask sleek... see if he knows?

**5577** · 24-08-09, 13:52

Originally Posted by proud owner

nowadays developers delay as much as possible ... to create 'shortage' of ready units ...to 'push' price higher

in the past boom era .. everyday got 12000 units ready ... since 2007-now and till 2012 every yr only 8000 ish units ready ... so manipulated ...

even URA initial estimate 13000 units ..lowered to 8000 ish ..

so fake

so is there a real shortage ??? or man-made wonder ?

I would thinkthat developer would want to quickly collect $$$ and so, will try and speed up the process of constructing..... especially when the development is fully sold... no?

**sleek** · 24-08-09, 14:13

Originally Posted by 5577

I dun think developer will do that lo.... those are considered ID work leh.... ask sleek... see if he knows?

Don't think they will replace the wall, but maybe if you omit leh, can try. Btw, I don't work for FCL hor.

**alamak** · 24-08-09, 14:18

Originally Posted by 5577

I dun think developer will do that lo.... those are considered ID work leh.... ask sleek... see if he knows?

Show room always replace a wall with glass to give that spaciouness feeling.
Forget about getting it done with your ID. The truth is that actual unit is a wall that you cannot hack down after TOP.
Even after SCC you still cannot hack it down. May be 10 years later. Worst still some walls are mainly for structural support that you can't even touch it at all.

**5577** · 24-08-09, 14:59

Originally Posted by alamak

Show room always replace a wall with glass to give that spaciouness feeling.
Forget about getting it done with your ID. The truth is that actual unit is a wall that you cannot hack down after TOP.
Even after SCC you still cannot hack it down. May be 10 years later. Worst still some walls are mainly for structural support that you can't even touch it at all.

Really?!?!?!.... then this is even worse than living in a HDB..... at least for a HDB apartment, I can choose to re-configure or re-design my rooms... now it sounds like a downgrade rather than an upgrade...

**azeoprop** · 24-08-09, 15:41

So far got anybody make an offer to buy your unit?

**sleek** · 24-08-09, 15:54

Originally Posted by azeoprop

So far got anybody make an offer to buy your unit?

Actually, end-jul 2009 URA website shows only 329units sold and 1 unit left. Wonder which unit is that?

**5577** · 24-08-09, 16:27

Originally Posted by sleek

Actually, end-jul 2009 URA website shows only 329units sold and 1 unit left. Wonder which unit is that?

Check with developer and we'll know!!!!! Haha!!!

**azeoprop** · 24-08-09, 21:29

must be mine loh....

**5577** · 24-08-09, 22:10

Originally Posted by azeoprop

must be mine loh....

Thought u did the paper work already?

**sleek** · 24-08-09, 22:17

Originally Posted by 5577

Thought u did the paper work already?

Think he was referring to the last minute unsold unit which was offered to him la.

**azeoprop** · 28-08-09, 16:26

Weekly update 2...

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