Bricks & Mortar
The American school once up will attract a different breed of foreigners compared to those u saw now right? Btw, the foreigners u saw now walked from Potong Pasir MRT station to woodleigh close? Presume these foreigners are staying at EuroAsia condo, Blossoms or Parc Mondrain?Originally Posted by sleek
Actually, I'd noticed a lots of foreigners walking to the private developments there from the MRT Stn and most cars are driven by locals coming in/out, whenever I ran there in the evening.
Exalted
i wonder wats ur real intention...
Bricks & Mortar
Btw, does anyone know if there will be a footpath separating the boundary walls of ( Blossoms and 8@woodleigh) and upcoming American school. From the view I saw from my friend's Blossom condo, it appear that there is a small narrow strip of land separating the condos and the school. If yes, this could be useful, then can exit via side gate and walk nearer to MRT esp for Blossoms.
Bricks & Mortar
? No underlying intention, just that more pool of expats to rent out to once American school is up. And how would expat from American school affect condos in this area. Would these americans expat have a preference for any condo over others.
Junior
Ok, most of the foreigners seen so far looks like Professional Caucasians by the way they are dressed for work, and sometimes out to play.
BE CENTRED BY ALL AT THE FRINGE OF THE CITY @
Junior
Unlikely for a footpath to be there as its quite a steep slope separating Blossoms/8@W and the school.
BE CENTRED BY ALL AT THE FRINGE OF THE CITY @
Bricks & Mortar
A good buddy of mine have asked his agent to scout for a 2 bedder at 8@woodleigh for investment, and he also encourage me to follow and pick up a subsale unit there as well. However, becos I know of a friend staying at Blossoms since TOP, and last weekend visited him, decide to weigh the pros and cons before and if to invest myself.
Exalted
cannot access....if i m not wrong...it belongs to the sch....
Exalted
both project ok...the problem is to find a reasonably priced unit now...b4 cooling measures, i am shocked to see units r asking for ridiculous price...lol
u may wana look at one leicester/platinum edge/intero as well..
best will be high flr stamford sch facing units....followed by low-mid pool facing
Bricks & Mortar
check some websites, got some info and images of new SAIS campus @woodleigh, useful for owners & supporters to know:
1. Images of New campus from SAIS website:
http://www.sais.edu.sg/campus.html
2. This info from the main contractor, Bovis Land Lease, website:
http://www.bovislendlease.com/llweb/.../news_20100430
"30 April 2010
Bovis Lend Lease awarded Stamford American International School Permanent Campus worth over S$100m
Bovis Lend Lease, the project management and construction arm of Australian property company, Lend Lease, has cemented its position as an industry leader in the education sector with the latest win of a more than S$100 million contract to design and construct the first phase of the Stamford American International School’s (SAIS) Permanent Campus in Singapore. Developed by Cognita - an international education group that runs more than 50 schools worldwide, the Permanent Campus of Stamford American International School will offer world class learning facilities with the latest in classroom technology and IT infrastructure and is expected to open in August 2012."
Junior
by looking at the progress, think another 15-18 months to TOP...
Newbie
I personally did consider Blossoms (and Parc Mondrian naturally), but in the end went for 8@W due to the following reasons:
1. It is nearer to Woodleigh MRT. The difference is around 100-150m (comparing with 8@W's side gate), but this distance is uphill. I have personally tried the walk before, and while it is ok for a one-time walk, I personally do not want to walk it every single time. I dunno if most potential tenants will mind, but I am sure there are those that will. The partially covered walk from 8@W's proposed side-gate to the station is pleasant and really short (about 3 mins).
2. As mentioned by someone earlier, the sizes of units in 8@W are smaller for the same number of bedrooms. As such, the overall quantum for units in 8@W are definitely significantly lower. Luckily the layouts are well-designed, and relatively efficient. Only point is that the 958sqft 3-bedder is actually more of a 2+1 type, a little too compact for me. In fact, the 2+1 is actually 947 sqft. Basically, between the 2 types, you choose whether you want a normal-sized 2nd bedroom and a smaller study, or 2 small bedrooms. But overall, I am pretty sure that rental in 8@W is definitely higher on a per square foot basis than blossoms.
3. Being newer, and in my opinion with slightly better designed facilities, 8@W would probably be the first choice of potential tenants looking for a unit in this location. Since I am buying primarily for investment, this ease of renting out is quite important to me. (This is just my opinion, owners of Blossoms units, please do not take offence)
4. Finally, and also the clincher for me, the dual key layout available in 8@W. I am intrigued by the possibility of renting out a dual key unit as a 2-bedroom and studio separately. If successfully done, rental yields would be quite high (>5%). Of cos, you have to ask for lower rents respectively than the true 1 & 2 bedders in 8@W, but even after that, the projected yield seems good enough to be worth a shot.And I don't rule out staying in the unit with my aging parents in the future. It's a good option to have for me personally
I have always preferred freehold condos, but given all the points above, it was an easy decision for me to choose 8@W in the end.
Having said all that, I think that both 8@W and Blossoms (as well as Parc Mondrian) are good buys, IF you can find reasonably priced units..
Sorry for the long post
Exalted
Plenty of 8wood sellers compared to the rest....so its aso easier to find reasonable priced units.... Cheers....
Senior
If only I got a 2 bedroom unit then...won't end up like now
Exalted
but y sell 1bedder and buy bck 1bedder at Isle ?If only I got a 2 bedroom unit then...won't end up like now
Bricks & Mortar
I scanned through the layouts of 8@Woodleigh, can you enlighten what is this dual key layout. I only saw 2 bedder+study. Thx4. Finally, and also the clincher for me, the dual key layout available in 8@W. I am intrigued by the possibility of renting out a dual key unit as a 2-bedroom and studio separately. If successfully done, rental yields would be quite high (>5%). Of cos, you have to ask for lower rents respectively than the true 1 & 2 bedders in 8@W, but even after that, the projected yield seems good enough to be worth a shot.
Exalted
look at stack 5 and 18.....the only problem is....the planter box link both sides...
Bricks & Mortar
I chance upon this article on the web, thought it might be interesting for all to read:
http://www.geomancy.net/phpforum/art...&mid=25850&new=
Cecil Lee
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Posted in: Info :: Singapore Property Review
Posted on: Thu, 13 Aug 2009, 10:36 AM, Last Modified on Thu, 13 Aug 2009, 10:46 AM
Quote & ReplyKaren K. wrote:
Some people avoided buying this development because it is directly opposite the old Bidadari Cemetry which is not existing already. Is there a good reason to be concern?
1. In general, typically most sites will certainly have units that are very good to average to inauspicious. As no unit or stack can share the same stack-site even within a development.
2. Frankly, in fact especially Chinese cemetry sites (were) suppose to be excellent sites. As Chinese have a wish that future generations will prospher. Thus, all Chinese cemetry sites are very auspicious.
3. The Bidaari Cemetry site:
The word Bidadari originated from the Sansckrit word: widyadari which roughly translates to heavenly "attainment". In fact, this site, was originally an Istana of one Sultan of Johore's wife home.
In 1904, the colonial government purchased around 45 acres of this land and turned it into a cemetry. Which we know was meant for burial of Hindus, Muslims and large population of different denominations of Christians.
4. One can draw a parallel to Orchard Road. Once upon a-time, the land where the MRT station sits was burial ground. And in the past, people thought that it was inauspicious to build the hotel (Tangs-Marriot) facing it.
5. In fact, many apartments are now built on burial sites or facing it: Bishan park; Yishan (Teochew cemetry); Old Bedok Road (where my grandfather was buried) is now Tampines ...
6. Memory fades... Singaporeans have "short" memory. Once the Bidadari is renewed again; no one would be wiser...
7. See attachment. Please note that the block 6: worst stack is 10. An entrapped stack! Inauspicious. While Block 2: stack 05 should be facing Flying Star E2 - if so, generally, the auspicious double #8's are wasted at the "back" of the apartment - which is usually the kitchen/yard area.
Exalted
oredi read it long time ago....LOL
anyway, buying ppty more of gut feeling one....just b4 8wood was launched. i cant find any blossom unit selling at below 850psf....and i still rmb i din buy blossom during their launch(only 6xxpsf) in early 07 as i tot woodleigh MRT is gona be a perm white elephant.....
Newbie
haha... blossom good purchase is on hind-sight after the economy rebound.. scary if u bought them on high-leverage & going thrgh that Lehman period..
Woodleigh mrt turning from white to flying elephant
Newbie
Yeah, noticed that too.. Seems like FCL's layout for dual key units in Caspian is similar, but the planter box has a wall separator while there's none for 8@W. Well, just have to get a little creative then
Newbie
maybe azeoprop wanted a larger 1bedder for himself?but y sell 1bedder and buy bck 1bedder at Isle ?If only I got a 2 bedroom unit then...won't end up like now
Exalted
I tink minton nicer leh n he got a 700sqft studio.... Nice n spacious for own stay.... Bedok reservoir traffic is real bad.... Rental better but mrt still a long way....
More like he sold 8wood liao duno wat to do with the spare cash? Hehe
Senior
Both reasons are correct haa haa....
Junior
i will go for 8@Woodleigh, at circle line, better
but y sell 1bedder and buy bck 1bedder at Isle ?
Junior
rental better for waterfront? look at the number of 1-bedder & 1+1, very competative... 1-bedder better go OCR or CCR, size smaller a bit doesnt matter.
Newbie
Waterfront is a nice location and has the upcoming MRT to look forward to. It just worries me that there is a huge number of units coming up.
There are a couple of thousand units coming online within the space of a few years. Add to that the existing projects, and the fact that the MRT will take a while to be operational, and I think rental there will be quite a challenge.
No issue for own stay though, just hope that the govt widen the roads and that the MRT construction does not cause too much inconvenience...
Newbie
Totally agree. I had also viewed the area couple of time, there are too many units coming up, easily above 2,000 on top of currently condo units (baywater, clear water, etc...) Initially i also thought of buying 1 unit there, but noticed the traffic in the morning and evening is really bad. I would prefer woodleigh than bedok reservoir. Of course in term of price bedok reservoir is much affordable than woodleigh area.
Junior
Isle is not very near to future MRT, its about 600m++
Newbie
I can't wait for the 9 to 12 months to past!
Time for some really important and tough decisions!
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