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    索罗斯入股龙湖地产
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    星期五, 13-11-2009


    据悉,10日,龙湖地产 (Longhu Property) 在伦敦站路演时,受到金融大鳄索罗斯 (George Soros) 的青睐,索罗斯基金下单2亿港元无限的方式认购龙湖地产。截至目前,龙湖地产国际配售已经达到60亿美元左右,下单机构合计超过100家超额认购近10倍。一位参与龙湖地产上市保荐的投行人士表示,龙湖地产即使定价8港元亦有望成功发出,但公司高管层在确定价格区间时选择“低开高走”,期望回报前期投资人。

    资料显示,乔治.索罗斯号称“金融天才”,从1969年建立“量子基金”至今,他创下了令人难以置信的业绩,以平均每年35%的综合成长率令华尔街同行望尘莫及。但值得一提的是,1998年8月他曾联手多家巨型国际金融机构冲击香港汇市、股市和期市,最终却以惨败告终。

    其实,索罗斯一直关注着内地在香港上市的股票。早在2006年,中国银行在香港上市时,索罗斯旗下的基金就认购中行的股份。而在今年,作为首家在香港IPO上市的中国男装,利郎将于9月25日在港交所正式挂牌的消息也引起了他的关注,也前来认购了利郎股份。

    另外,多家机构和城中富豪争相入股民生银行。其中5家基础投资者共认购3.4亿美元,包括中国平安保险集团、中国海外集团、旭日企业主席杨钊、华人置业和大润发。但值得注意的是,有港媒称,投资大鳄索罗斯有意通过国际配售认购部分股份,估计涉资最多1亿美元。消息人士指出,索罗斯透过旗下基金率先斥资2亿美元入股正在美国进行路演的龙湖地产,下一步拟认购民生银行股份,涉资5000万至1亿美元。

    显然,索罗斯的这个动作,在业界引起了爆炸性的轰动,毕竟,在三年前,他曾看低中国经济,看错中国房地产的市场潜力。而此番不仅投资中国经济市场,更首先以房地产市场为其投资的豁口,这样的举措不得不让是人跌破眼镜,不得不令人震惊。但是惊叹之余不禁要考虑,是什么让索罗斯有了如此大的改变,是看好中国的经济抑或中国房地产市场的发展潜力呢?还是其他?

    当然,经济危机袭来之时,中国经济迅速的脱离危机窘境,其实力已被世界普遍看好。尤其是房地产凭借利好政策在这次化解危机中起到十分重要的作用。而索罗斯在此次入资中国市场,并选择投资中国房地产是否也在暗示其对中国经济及房地产发展前景的认同?如果认同那么房地产与中国经济究竟是什么样的关系呢?

    入股地产 看好中国经济

    索罗斯7日中国的首次演讲中说道:“我们可以看到中国将会取代美国成为世界经济的引擎,中国会在世界发挥更加积极的作用。”“中国经济将会比我们所有人预期的还要更快地增长。”“在未来世界更多地会依靠中国的增长以及依靠中国对这种增长的管理。”

    这位有着深刻市场洞察力和预见力的传奇人物索罗斯唱多中国经济,认为中国将会取代美国成为世界经济引擎,而在国际金融秩序重建中,中国需要更多的发言权。他认为,中国经济将会比我们所有人预期的还要更快地增长,而中国经济的复苏速度也会比美国快。因此,在未来世界更多地会依靠中国的增长以及依靠中国对这种增长的管理。“中国和世界都有共同的一个目标,也就是我们看到中国的崛起是一个和平的崛起。”另外,从他的举动中不难看出,他的潜意识即“拯救中国经济的主力之一就是中国地产行业”。

    实际上,从目前的国情而言,提到中国经济,就不得的不提到中国房地产。因为,如果说经济增长要靠“三驾马车”,那么可以说有两驾马车与房地产有关。一是投资,中国经济靠投资拉动已是痼疾,一时半会改不了,数据显示,房地产投资约占中国固定资产投资的25%,拯救楼市,至少可以拯救1/4的投资马力。二是消费,房地产消费动辄上百万,跟财政补贴让农民购买家电相比,买一套房拉力要大得多。

    实践证明,中国经济复苏,房地产无疑是火车头。我国的房地产跟中国经济之间存着密切的关系,房地产上升对宏观经济有很大的拉动,会导致物价的上升,因此,中国经济已经与房地产紧紧的绑定一荣俱荣,一损俱损。而索罗斯此番插手中国中国经济,并选择从房地产开始已在无形中将这一切表达的十分明白。

    以前我们过多地关注房地产泡沫会否影响金融安全,只看到地方政府没有房地产就活不下去的事实,没有深思房地产和经济有如此密切的关系。索罗斯弃三年前的“中国的房地产挺不过2008年”言论不顾,高调进军中国房地产行业,直接的表明救经济目前只有靠重振楼市这一事实,因为除了房地产没有一个产业身兼投资消费两大功能,同时还能带动50多个行业。

    索罗斯强袭中国地产?

    索罗斯曾预言过,这是二战以来最严重的经济危机,作为一名对华尔街也具备十足影响力的国际投资大师,索罗斯对世界经济趋势的判断评价,也常常会影响人们对经济格局未来的认识。对于美元的霸权地位,索罗斯持怎样的观点?对于中国的现状他怎么看?对于人民币的前景他又是怎么评价的呢?他的投资策略又有什么样的警示和借鉴?

    索罗斯曾公开表示,“未来10年,全球经济增长下降,中国经济会发挥积极的影响,经济增长会比大部分国家要快。现在中国经济发展形势很好,比其他国家更容易复苏,中国确实有一些比较优势,拥有优质的资源刺激经济,中国政府有手段,有意志力,且认真地在刺激经济复苏。中国可以成为全球经济引擎,而且中国的崛起是和平的崛起。中国经济目前已经开始复苏,未来还将超出人们预期快速增长。”并希望向中国人学习,并有所收获。我现在能确定的是,中国股市早就见底了,不可能再创新低!会不会近期投资中国?看机会吧,因为中国的投资限制比较多,所以操作起来有些难度,但我肯定会寻找恰当的时机。

    在索罗斯看来,泡沫、价格的推高,是市场的错误造成的,大家都误解、并坚持了这个误解,这是一个恶性循环。而对于自己看好中国投资市场是完全肯定,但对于是否会投资中国市场,以及如何投资却又保持了一定的神秘。他曾表示,“我现在能确定的是,中国股市早就见底了,不可能再创新低!会不会近期投资中国?看机会吧,因为中国的投资限制比较多,所以操作起来有些难度,但我肯定会寻找恰当的时机。我打赌,中国会成功的。”

    而对于投资中国市场,索罗斯曾表示,“我对投资中国比投资其它国家更感兴趣,我特别对私人股权感兴趣,中国总的前景很好,许多实业里面会发生很多兼并,而资本市场能赚大钱的机会就是来自兼并和资产重组。我个人不是美国投资人的代表,但我认为在纽约上市的中国公司价值遭到严重低估。”尽管索罗斯表面上再三缄口,但其近日来在中国市场的动作却已将其投资行踪暴露无疑。与其说索罗斯看好了中国经济,不如具体的说其看好了中国的房地产市场。

    当然,索罗斯此次斥资入股龙湖地产只是“牛刀小试”,未来可能会更大的动作来入股中国经济市场。作为中国经济“三驾马车”之一的房地产市场极有可能是索罗斯强袭的对象之一,但是其会有通过什么样的渠道来袭,尚需时间的期待,其入股地产市场只是其中的手段之一。如果索罗斯强袭中国地产,那么中国房地产市场面对的是机遇还是挑战,是利大于弊还是弊大于利,……不禁让人产生无限的遐想。总体而言,相信会给中国房地产市场带来前所未有的机遇及质的飞跃。

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    Recovery to continue: Singapore GIC
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    Saturday, 14 November 2009, 4.10 pm


    Dr Tony Tan, GIC Deputy Chariman and Executive Director -- Photo: Reuters

    Sovereign wealth fund the Government of Singapore Investment Corp expects the global economic recovery to extend into 2010 with stronger growth in Asian and Latin American countries that have lower debt levels, Deputy Chairman Tony Tan said on Saturday.

    'In the short term, the bounce could surprise on the upside,' Dr Tan said at a conference for Apec business leaders. He added that the risk in the medium term was that economies could stagnate while inflation was a longer-term threat.

    'Over the next 1 to 3 years, weak growth and excess capacity will be strongly disinflationary. However, beyond that, over the next 5-10 years, policy errors or political pressure could lead central banks to accommodate higher inflation.'

    GIC, estimated to be the world's fourth largest wealth fund with assets in excess of $200 billion, has been putting more money in alternative investments such as real estate and infrastructure to diversify its portfolio. The fund is sitting on a large cash pile, holding about 8% of its portfolio in cash as of end-March 2009.

    GIC was one of the first sovereign wealth funds to pump billions into Western banks rocked by the financial crisis. The fund said in September its investment in UBS was still showing a loss but it was in the money for Citigroup and had already realised a $1.6 billion profit from halving its stake in the US lender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xebay11
    Yeah but landed cluster housing are rubbish.
    Cluster bungalow is to Landed bungalow; as


    Mickey Mouse condo is to Condo; as


    Sixth Avenue Residences is to Sixth Avenue Residence; as



    Geely GE is to Rolls Royce Phantom.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter
    Recovery to continue: Singapore GIC
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    Dr Tony Tan, GIC Deputy Chariman and Executive Director -- Photo: Reuters

    Sovereign wealth fund the Government of Singapore Investment Corp expects the global economic recovery to extend into 2010 with stronger growth in Asian and Latin American countries that have lower debt levels, Deputy Chairman Tony Tan said on Saturday.


    GIC, estimated to be the world's fourth largest wealth fund with assets in excess of $200 billion, has been putting more money in alternative investments such as real estate.
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    Dr Tony Tan, Singapore Press Holdings Chairman


    SPH-led venture puts in top bid for Clementi mall

    By Joyce Teo

    A JOINT venture between Singapore Press Holdings, NTUC Income and NTUC FairPrice has topped the tender for a mall at Clementi Town Centre with a bid of $541.9 million.

    This is nearly 42 per cent above the se-cond-highest bid of $382 million from a venture between Keppel Land's Alpha Investment Partners and Guthrie.
    That would put the top bid at around $3,000 psf of retail net floor area.

    Consultants said this could be a record level as the price of suburban malls has generally not crossed $2,500 psf.
    Can somebody tell me who is this guy above who dares to disobey our Government's advice not to invest in the property market because we are creating an asset bubble?

    He seems to be as disobedient, if not more so, than the following people ...

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    Cheung Kong is top bidder for Upper Thomson Rd condo plot
    The Business Times Weekend
    Saturday, 7 November 2009

    The top bidder for the 99-year condo site on Upper Thomson Road on Thursday has been revealed as a unit of Hong Kong tycoon Li Ka-shing’s Cheung Kong Holdings.



    When asked if Cheung Kong regretted having paid such a wide margin, especially in hindsight as the government announced its H1 2010 land sales programme the next day with substantial supply in the confirmed list, Mr Chui replied: ‘We’ve done our sums. The site is in a very good location and we have confidence in the future of the Singapore property market.’
    Originally Posted by Reporter

    Hong Kong tycoon sheds stock, loads up on land
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    Saturday, 31 October 2009



    Billionair Lee Shau-kee said he has sold as much as 30% of his Hong Kong stock investments and is buying land, betting that the government’s efforts to cool home prices won’t work.
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    Thanks for your tips the other day.
    I am executing my D9 plan later today.

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    Actually hor, people in the know will know that the Govt only want those who don't have enough cash not to over-leverage lah in case they don't have holding power and lose money and start blaming them and vote for others. Those in the know will know that they better do something with their cash before their paper value keep dropping. GIC, Cheung Kong, Lee Shau-kee etc are the people in the know obviously.

    Quote Originally Posted by jlrx
    Can somebody tell me who is this guy above who dares to disobey our Government's advice not to invest in the property market because we are creating an asset bubble?

    He seems to be as disobedient, if not more so, than the following people ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear
    Actually hor, people in the know will know that the Govt only want those who don't have enough cash not to over-leverage lah in case they don't have holding power and lose money and start blaming them and vote for others. Those in the know will know that they better do something with their cash before their paper value keep dropping. GIC, Cheung Kong, Lee Shau-kee etc are the people in the know obviously.
    HARRH ?!?

    If I combine your statements, then it ends up that ... those who don't have enough cash see their paper value keep dropping!


    Then how will the Government ever close the rich-poor divide?

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    Is closing rich-poor divide considered part of a Govt's responsibilities anywhere in the world (not just Singapore)? Not that I know of, as long as they can keep the poor from being too hungry to cause trouble and lose their votes. The only way I can think of to effectively and instantly close the divide is for Govt to control everything and cap the CEOs pay while legislating min wages. Otherwise, all others ways have never been shown to be effective. This is a sad but real world...


    Quote Originally Posted by jlrx
    HARRH ?!?

    If I combine your statements, then it ends up that ... those who don't have enough cash see their paper value keep dropping!


    Then how will the Government ever close the rich-poor divide?

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    Totally agreed with you. If they are serious in lowering the prices of condo, they should sell land to those developer who bid for selling the lowest psf to consumer during launch and not the highest bidder for the land.

    Selling to the highest bidder whereby they need to sell at least $1000 psf to break even and most likely to sell at $1,300 psf and whereby its those rural area, how to control the price down????????


    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear
    Actually hor, people in the know will know that the Govt only want those who don't have enough cash not to over-leverage lah in case they don't have holding power and lose money and start blaming them and vote for others. Those in the know will know that they better do something with their cash before their paper value keep dropping. GIC, Cheung Kong, Lee Shau-kee etc are the people in the know obviously.

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    it"s catch 22. if you don't premium price it, the rich won't flock here. if you try to sell an LV bag at $100, no one will take you seriously.

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    If you sell LV bag at $100, people (especially the rich) will think it is either fake or this LV brand got quality problem or no class, sure won't buy.

    Similarly, Singapore is branded as a first-class city trying to attract the rich and the famous and people still expect 3rd world price (e.g. in properties etc)? If Singapore properties selling at 3rd world price, then the rich and famous won't come to buy and live here also - become similar mentality to LV bags. Meanwhile, 3rd world price also comes with 3rd world salaries. Those people better beware of what they wish for (i.e. they only deserve 3rd world salaries.)

    Quote Originally Posted by kane
    it"s catch 22. if you don't premium price it, the rich won't flock here. if you try to sell an LV bag at $100, no one will take you seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melodies
    If you sell LV bag at $100, people (especially the rich) will think it is either fake or this LV brand got quality problem or no class, sure won't buy.

    Similarly, Singapore is branded as a first-class city trying to attract the rich and the famous and people still expect 3rd world price (e.g. in properties etc)? If Singapore properties selling at 3rd world price, then the rich and famous won't come to buy and live here also - become similar mentality to LV bags. Meanwhile, 3rd world price also comes with 3rd world salaries. Those people better beware of what they wish for (i.e. they only deserve 3rd world salaries.)
    but we are a first world country ..with a third world broadcasting authority, still charging TV license ...

    which first world country in the world charge TV license ? and airport tax ?

    Singapore ...

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    中国买楼大军快杀到?
    中国人组织购房团到海外买楼顺便观光,已经不是什么新闻,不过,至今却未听闻来到新加坡。与其将项目带到海外促销,或许发展商们这次可以考虑,将买家带到新加坡来?圣淘沙的名胜世界(Resort World Sentosa)开幕在即,相信要吸引一些富豪前来,应该不会找不到一个好借口……
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    远东机构的豪华共管公寓 -- 乌节史格园(Orchard Scotts),有高达25%的外国买家来自中国

    最近,发展商又开始将手头上一些共管公寓项目,特别是属于中高档次的项目悄悄地带到海外促销。不同的是,除了印尼、香港、马来西亚这几个常拜的“码头”,听说一些人现在也开始往上海

    虽然不少本地人的想法还停留在“中国人只会在新加坡购买低价房子”的框框,不过一些发展商已经意识到,风势正在改变

    中国人百万千万豪宅

    过去三年来,中国人在外国买家的排名节节上升,由2007年的第五名,攀升至2008年的第四名。根据今年首9个月的成交量,中国人已经超过英国人和印度人,成为新加坡私宅的第三大外国买家。

    两个月前,本报也曾经报道,本地每卖出100间私人房子,约22间由外国人或永久居民买下,其中六间的买家是马来西亚人、五间是印尼人、三间是中国人,购买力不容忽视

    目前,中国人购买的房子虽然大多(25%)属于售价50万元至100万元的大众化档次,不过,买得起500万元以(more than $5 million)上豪宅的中国人,也大有人在

    例如远东机构的乌节史格园(Orchard Scotts),就有高达25%外国买家来自中国。这个靠近纽顿地铁站的豪华共管公寓,单位价格动辄四五百万元($4-5 million)。

    一家房地产代理公司的研究部主管也透露,最近几个星期,升涛湾(Sentosa Cove)的千万元豪宅区也出现了不少中国的超级大富豪前来看楼。

    中国的崛起让富豪的人数暴增,根据最近发表的胡润百富榜,今年中国的百亿人民币富豪人数,已由去年的50名上升至65名;至于财富在10亿人民币以上的富豪则有1000名之多。香港只有22名,但上海有90名、北京有87名、深圳65名、杭州60名、广州38名、温州25名、成都23名。

    从这些数据看,已经到新加坡买楼的中国人,至今应该只是占了中国富豪人数中的九牛一毛。中国炒房团虽然已经在中国多个城市,包括香港兴起滔天巨浪,但是至今仍没有太强的证据显示,他们已经大举进军新加坡。

    一名发展商曾经预测,中国人迟早会超越马来西亚人和印尼人,成为新加坡最大的外国买楼族群。姑且不论这个预言会否成真,但是这股购买势力已是不容忽视。

    为中国买家全方位服务

    不过,到目前为止,新加坡发展商在争取中国买家方面所取得的成绩,似乎参差不齐。

    不少人仍质疑这股买楼势力;有些虽然已经意识到这股新势力,却不知道如何下手;不过也有些在耕耘几年后,开始看到了一些成绩。

    以远东机构来说,它在6年前于上海设立办事处,现在,中国新移民和其他海外买家已在两年前超越印尼人,成为远东机构公寓项目的最大外籍买家。

    值得参考的是,这个办事处并不只是在中国摆摆模型、发发宣传册子而已,而是主动安排一些中国商人到新加坡来“实地考察”。

    远东机构不但安排专车从机场接送这些“贵客”到该机构的酒店住宿,以及到机构属下的餐厅用,贵客在参观房子后,如果有兴趣的话,甚至会安排他们与本地银行学校和政府机构代表会面,协助他们了解在新加坡定居、经商及孩子教育的问题

    一名房屋经纪也告诉记者,他因为提供许多“附加”服务,而成功争取到了一些中国大客户当中好几个授权他500万元至1000万元不等($5-10 million)的预算,代他们在新加坡买房子

    这些中国客户通常是客户的亲戚、商业伙伴,有的打算在新加坡做生意,有的则因为孩子在新加坡念书,所以想在新加坡投资房地产。因此,除了带他们看房子外,他还帮他们的孩子介绍监护人、律师、银行家。每次中国客户来新,他还代为在六星级酒店订房、租车,甚至带他们到名牌店购物、去东海岸吃辣椒螃蟹等等。

    名胜世界明年开幕
    或能吸引富豪来买房

    中国人组织购房团到海外买楼顺便观光,已经不是什么新闻,不过,至今却未听闻来到新加坡。与其将项目带到海外促销,或许发展商们这次可以考虑将买家带到新加坡?

    圣淘沙的名胜世界(Resort World Sentosa)开幕在即,相信要吸引一些富豪前来,应该不会找不到一个好借口……

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter

    中国买楼大军快杀到?
    中国人组织购房团到海外买楼顺便观光,已经不是什么新闻,不过,至今却未听闻来到新加坡。与其将项目带到海外促销,或许发展商们这次可以考虑,将买家带到新加坡来?圣淘沙的名胜世界(Resort World Sentosa)开幕在即,相信要吸引一些富豪前来,应该不会找不到一个好借口……
    I have already prepared a poster to welcome these "买楼大军".



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    Come! Come! Buy Singapore properties!

    Singapore properties are safer!

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    Impact of new sites won’t be felt yet
    Sites for tender will yield 2,925 units but they won’t be ready for at least 1½ years
    The Sunday Times
    Sunday, 15 November 2009

    The Government came out about a week ago to say that there is no shortage of residential supply and thus no need for buyers to rush. That was when it announced its decision to tender out eight residential sites for sale in the first half of next year.

    The eight sites are in non-city areas such as Choa Chu Kang, Simei and Tampines.

    It also has a long reserve list of residential sites that are available for sale, if developers are to show interest by committing to a minimum bid the Government finds acceptable.

    This potential supply comes from the twice-yearly government land sales programme and means buyers will have more choices while property owners may benefit.

    HDB upgraders in particular will be glad to know that the latest sales programme – for the first half of next year – will see a slew of suburban residential sites.

    Property owners who live near the eight sites can expect to see a new project in their neighbourhood in the next few years.

    If the economy improves steadily, they can even look forward to a rise in their home values when the new project is released for sale.

    ‘Generally, when a new project is launched, it will have a bearing on the developments in the vicinity,’ said Colliers International’s research and advisory director, Ms Tay Huey Ying.

    ‘If a project is launched at bullish price levels, it could push up the prices of surrounding developments, though a lot can depend on project attributes.’

    Ngee Ann Polytechnic lecturer Nicholas Mak said: ‘In a buoyant market, developers would launch at a higher price on a psf basis than surrounding projects. In a less buoyant market, the premium would be smaller.

    ‘The launch price does give some support to the asking prices of individual sellers in the area.’

    In January, three sites will be put up for sale, including two executive condominium (EC) sites.

    The first EC site in Buangkok Drive, near The Quartz condo and Buangkok MRT station, can accommodate an estimated 520 units while the second in Yishun Avenue 11, next to the Lilydale EC, can take 385 units.

    The EC scheme was launched in 1996 to help Singaporeans who could afford more than new HDB flats yet found the prices of private housing too high.

    The biggest of the eight sites is at the junction of Tampines Avenue 1 and Avenue 10, next to The Tropica condo and Bedok Reservoir. It can take 605 units.

    The site in Choa Chu Kang Road, suitable for 200 units, sits above the Bukit Panjang LRT Depot and Ten Mile Junction, and is near the future Bukit Panjang MRT station.

    The Sembawang Road site is near Sembawang Shopping Centre and can take about 290 units.

    In the west, the Boon Lay Way site for 525 units is next to the sold-out The Caspian and near Lakeside MRT station.

    Property consultants also singled out the site at Simei Street 3 and the one at the junction of Upper Serangoon Road and Pheng Geck Avenue as choice ones because of their proximity to the Simei and Potong Pasir MRT stations respectively.

    ‘As Singapore becomes more populated, characterised by a relatively fast-paced lifestyle, accessibility and proximity to mass transit stations will be a key consideration for future home buyers,’ said CBRE Research director Leonard Tay.

    On the reserve list, there are also sites near MRT stations: The Bartley Road site, which can take about 500 units, faces Bartley MRT station and the Stirling Road site, which can have 405 units, is near Queenstown MRT station.

    Both sites are seen as highly attractive and thus likely to be triggered for sale next year. Even if they are not, the eight sites to be tendered out next year will yield 2,925 units, which is nearly as high as the 3,000 units put out in the se-cond half of 2007.

    In addition to the reserve list sites, the Government is making available 10,550 private residential units – the largest supply since the second half of 2001.

    Still, the impact of this will not be felt immediately.

    It will take at least 1½ years before a project on the eight sites can be launched, said Mr Mak.

    And depending on how the market pans out, developers may choose to launch their projects later, he said.

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    Wah, got more supply and properties in surrounding areas will go up. Those areas with no supply lagi go up even more right? So better buy those areas with no/little new supply of properties coming up, especially those beside MRT stations (must be underground one hor, not those above ground as too noisy!) got more upside potential!!


    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter

    Impact of new sites won’t be felt yet
    Sites for tender will yield 2,925 units but they won’t be ready for at least 1½ years
    The Sunday Times
    Sunday, 15 November 2009

    The Government came out about a week ago to say that there is no shortage of residential supply and thus no need for buyers to rush. That was when it announced its decision to tender out eight residential sites for sale in the first half of next year.

    The eight sites are in non-city areas such as Choa Chu Kang, Simei and Tampines.

    It also has a long reserve list of residential sites that are available for sale, if developers are to show interest by committing to a minimum bid the Government finds acceptable.

    This potential supply comes from the twice-yearly government land sales programme and means buyers will have more choices while property owners may benefit.

    HDB upgraders in particular will be glad to know that the latest sales programme – for the first half of next year – will see a slew of suburban residential sites.

    Property owners who live near the eight sites can expect to see a new project in their neighbourhood in the next few years.

    If the economy improves steadily, they can even look forward to a rise in their home values when the new project is released for sale.

    ‘Generally, when a new project is launched, it will have a bearing on the developments in the vicinity,’ said Colliers International’s research and advisory director, Ms Tay Huey Ying.

    ‘If a project is launched at bullish price levels, it could push up the prices of surrounding developments, though a lot can depend on project attributes.’

    Ngee Ann Polytechnic lecturer Nicholas Mak said: ‘In a buoyant market, developers would launch at a higher price on a psf basis than surrounding projects. In a less buoyant market, the premium would be smaller.

    ‘The launch price does give some support to the asking prices of individual sellers in the area.’

    In January, three sites will be put up for sale, including two executive condominium (EC) sites.

    The first EC site in Buangkok Drive, near The Quartz condo and Buangkok MRT station, can accommodate an estimated 520 units while the second in Yishun Avenue 11, next to the Lilydale EC, can take 385 units.

    The EC scheme was launched in 1996 to help Singaporeans who could afford more than new HDB flats yet found the prices of private housing too high.

    The biggest of the eight sites is at the junction of Tampines Avenue 1 and Avenue 10, next to The Tropica condo and Bedok Reservoir. It can take 605 units.

    The site in Choa Chu Kang Road, suitable for 200 units, sits above the Bukit Panjang LRT Depot and Ten Mile Junction, and is near the future Bukit Panjang MRT station.

    The Sembawang Road site is near Sembawang Shopping Centre and can take about 290 units.

    In the west, the Boon Lay Way site for 525 units is next to the sold-out The Caspian and near Lakeside MRT station.

    Property consultants also singled out the site at Simei Street 3 and the one at the junction of Upper Serangoon Road and Pheng Geck Avenue as choice ones because of their proximity to the Simei and Potong Pasir MRT stations respectively.

    ‘As Singapore becomes more populated, characterised by a relatively fast-paced lifestyle, accessibility and proximity to mass transit stations will be a key consideration for future home buyers,’ said CBRE Research director Leonard Tay.

    On the reserve list, there are also sites near MRT stations: The Bartley Road site, which can take about 500 units, faces Bartley MRT station and the Stirling Road site, which can have 405 units, is near Queenstown MRT station.

    Both sites are seen as highly attractive and thus likely to be triggered for sale next year. Even if they are not, the eight sites to be tendered out next year will yield 2,925 units, which is nearly as high as the 3,000 units put out in the se-cond half of 2007.

    In addition to the reserve list sites, the Government is making available 10,550 private residential units – the largest supply since the second half of 2001.

    Still, the impact of this will not be felt immediately.

    It will take at least 1½ years before a project on the eight sites can be launched, said Mr Mak.

    And depending on how the market pans out, developers may choose to launch their projects later, he said.

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    The only obvious trend I noted in these sites are ...

    They are all outside of town area. Does this mean that land in Orchard, RV, Newton, Novena areas are going to become even more scarce ?

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    汤臣一品再创天价 全上海最贵
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    汤臣一品

    上海楼市单价再创新高,汤臣一品(Tomson Riviera)近日成交了一套总价人民币近亿元的豪宅,其单价超过人民币(下同)16万元(3万3300新元)/平方米(1平方米=10.764平方英尺),约等于每平方英尺1万4900元(RMB14,900 psf),创下申城有史以来住宅单价的最高纪录。

    据多家研究机构监测的数据显示,11月3日,汤臣一品成交了一套28楼的房源,这套面积597平方米的豪宅售价高达9609万元,均价高达16万848元/平方米,打破了二年前由它自己保持的单价纪录——14万2243元/平方米。两套房房型相同,新近成交的这套楼层更低,价格反而高了。

    据《新闻晨报》昨日报道:通过上海市房地产交易中心“网上房地产”查询,汤臣一品本月的确成交了两套房产,其中位于“花园石桥路二十八弄八号”28楼的一套房显示为“已签”,但无法从网上房地产上查到其实际成交价格。目前该项目住宅已售42套,累计住宅合同均价是10万1026元/平方米。

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKSG
    The only obvious trend I noted in these sites are ...

    They are all outside of town area. Does this mean that land in Orchard, RV, Newton, Novena areas are going to become even more scarce ?
    There are hardly anymore big grass patches in those areas, the way to create space is en bloc. Look at the devonshire and cuscaden area. As dense as hong kong.

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    Private home sales slow
    Joyce Teo
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    Monday, 16 November 2009, 4.05 pm



    The buying frenzy in the property market has cooled, with property developers selling just 811 units of new, private homes in October.

    This is down 29% from 1,143 units sold in September and 1,805 units in August, falling below the 1,000 unit level for the first time since January as government measures to cool the property market took effect.

    The quieter market is due to fewer launches in October. According to data released by the the Urban Redevelopment Authority on Monday, developers launched only 566 units, a far cry from the 1,413 units launched in September. There were no major suburban launch.

    One of the best sellers was the 278-unit Cyan in Bukit Timah Road. It launched 90 units, of which 81 were sold at a median price of $1,821 psf.

    The October data marked the third consecutive monthly drop since sales hit a high of 2,772 units in July, but volumes were still well above the 211 units that changed hands in October 2008 during the worst of the global financial crisis.

    The Government moved to curb speculation in the housing market in September, and pledged to release more land for residential development and make it harder for home buyers to defer payments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter

    Private home sales slow
    Joyce Teo
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    Monday, 16 November 2009, 4.05 pm



    The buying frenzy in the property market has cooled, with property developers selling just 811 units of new, private homes in October.

    This is down 29% from 1,143 units sold in September and 1,805 units in August, falling below the 1,000 unit level for the first time since January as government measures to cool the property market took effect.

    The quieter market is due to fewer launches in October. According to data released by the the Urban Redevelopment Authority on Monday, developers launched only 566 units, a far cry from the 1,413 units launched in September. There were no major suburban launch.

    One of the best sellers was the 278-unit Cyan in Bukit Timah Road. It launched 90 units, of which 81 were sold at a median price of $1,821 psf.

    The October data marked the third consecutive monthly drop since sales hit a high of 2,772 units in July, but volumes were still well above the 211 units that changed hands in October 2008 during the worst of the global financial crisis.

    The Government moved to curb speculation in the housing market in September, and pledged to release more land for residential development and make it harder for home buyers to defer payments.



    So ... property price will go NORTH or SOUTH

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    i think sales will natually slow now given the following reasons:

    1. Year end festive period - most busy preparing for X'mas, going on vacations, spending more time with family now that holidays are here

    2. Buyers have bought their units - most buyers in the market for new homes have plonked down their moolah in whatever caught their eye... in view of AWS or year end bonuses locked in and payable in 1-2 months' time.

    3. Remaining buyers - the GLS promises new and very competitive locations (in suburban, but no less 'prime' as many are near or actually right beside landmarks and mrt stations) - so they have kept their moolah for the more attractive upcoming launches in next few quarters.

    4. Developers are still pricing upwards - the developer units prices have not come down, in fact many are positioning upwards in view of the escalating price points even for suburban launches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlrx, 4 days ago
    I guess it really matters to a lot of people.

    "Public housing" is, after all, subsidised. Which means you have not been a successful person in this life and need the government to "subsidise" you.

    The psyche of this is very strong, as it is every Singaporean's dream to own at least one private property before he departs from this world. So that when he draws his last breath, he can feel very satisfied.

    Even if it is a Mickey Mouse unit, it is considered a "private property". Hence it is very satisfying, and he can depart in peace, with his eyes closed.

    It's the same reason why some people buy a small entry level BMW 1 series, or a small mini bungalow of only 4,000 sf, or a 600 sf Mickey Mouse apartment in D9 Orchard Road.

    Don't you think that it's really cool to own a bungalow here in Singapore? Even if it's a Mickey Mouse bungalow?
    I know you are a believer of Mickeymousation.
    Now that D14 has reached $1,514 psf because of it, you must be very happy right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter, Suites @ Guillemard, 6 hours ago
    We have all been conned.

    It ain't $1,450 psf. It's $1,514 psf!

    My goodness! This D14-RCR Mickeymousation has just put all CCR to shame!

    Quote Originally Posted by URA
    Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of October 2009

    Project Name ........ Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
    Suites @ Guillemard . RCR ........ 72 ............................ 66 .............................. 1,514 ........... 1,234 ............. 896

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter
    I know you are a believer of Mickeymousation.
    Now that D14 has reached $1,514 psf because of it, you must be very happy right?
    Of course I'm very happy!

    But I'll be even happier if D9 can reach $5,141 psf !!!

    Because my "godfather"'s ang pow for me is pegged to D9's psf.

    Hope that my 2010 ang pow will be a fat one!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jlrx
    Of course I'm very happy!

    But I'll be even happier if D9 can reach $5,141 psf !!!

    Because my "godfather"'s ang pow for me is pegged to D9's psf.

    Hope that my 2010 ang pow will be a fat one!

    $5,141 psf?

    Err ... now only $4,150 psf leh ... still have $991 psf more to go lah ...

    CNY is less than 3 months away hor. Can fill this $991-psf gap by CNY meh?
    ... unless you have the help of China's PLA to liberate ...

    Quote Originally Posted by URA
    Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of October 2009

    Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
    Boulevard Vue .. CCR ......... 4 .............................. 1 ................................
    4,150 ............ 4,150 ............. 4,150
    Last edited by Reporter; 16-11-09 at 20:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter
    $5,141 psf?

    Err ... now only $4,150 psf leh ... still have $991 psf more to go lah ...

    CNY is less than 3 months away hor. Can fill this $991-psf gap by CNY meh?
    ... unless you have the help of China's PLA to liberate ...
    The GENERAL has arrived ...



    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter

    中国买楼大军快杀到?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlrx
    The GENERAL has arrived ...

    Err ... you mean General J. Li is the commander of China's Property Liberation Army?

    The PLA invade to liberate our property market?

    Hopefully he leads(liberates) by example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter
    Err ... you mean General J. Li is the commander of China's Property Liberation Army?

    The PLA invade to liberate our property market?

    Hopefully he leads(liberates) by example.
    Correct.
    General J. Li is the commander of China's Property Liberation Army. 中国买楼大军三军大元帅.

    He has definitely led by example.
    Quote Originally Posted by Business Times

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    Jet Li buys $20m Binjai Rise bungalow
    The Property Liberation Army also has female generals ...



    Quote Originally Posted by Straits Times
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    She banks on health for wealth

    Besides expanding her health-care business, Cheryl Baumann invests in property and art

    By Lorna Tan

    She was born Bi Xiaoyan but changed her name to Cheryl Baumann when she swopped her Chinese citizenship for a German one.

    Born in Beijing, Dr Baumann had initially wanted to follow in her mother's footsteps as a writer. Her father was an actor.

    Though she is not medically trained, Dr Baumann, 40, decided to set up the Singapore Medical Group (SMG) the same year. Its first subsidiary is The Lasik Surgery Clinic at the Paragon, which has since done more than 30,000 eye operations.

    Q Tell us about your property investments?

    I have two properties at Sentosa Cove and three condos in Orchard Road. I also have homes in China. I was 30 when I started investing in Chinese properties. I have two apartments in Beijing and one in Shenzhen.

    To me, property is a very safe investment. If you don't need the money, don't sell it and just keep it for the long term. Sooner or later, prices can only go up, especially when land is very limited and the population is growing.
    I couldn't have put it better ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlrx
    Correct.
    General J. Li is the commander of China's Property Liberation Army. 中国买楼大军三军大元帅.

    He has definitely led by example.


    The Property Liberation Army also has female generals ...





    I couldn't have put it better ...

    did she marry a german ?? and changed her name ?

    or simply 'heow' ?

    bloody SPG .. not proud of her roots ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    did she marry a german ?? and changed her name ?

    or simply 'heow' ?

    bloody SPG .. not proud of her roots ?
    You can read the full article here:

    http://singsupplies.com/showthread.php?t=2283

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlrx
    You can read the full article here:

    http://singsupplies.com/showthread.php?t=2283

    whatever

    she has no pride in her own identity at all ...

    and she mentioned family values ?
    hahahhhhahaha

    if i am broke and no money ..yes sure ...take the chance ..make or break .. nothing to lose ..

    so no need to respect her for going to germany to study etc etc and make it big ..

    if she is really so good ..stay on in china ... and bring pride to her home country lah

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