Double Bay Residences, Simei St4 (D18, 99LH, 646units, UOL/Kheng Leong)

[Daniel_Yee]

Centro is crap too. And worse than DBR a lot of times.

i didn't know you were providing advice, you are just here to say DBR is crap.

[shespawn]

I too think that TM and Kembangan is the best along Eastern line. LOL.

of course lah, who doesn't know compare to location, which is better? Kembangan is better lah, just that they only have two condos (next to mrt): Astoria (abit old) and The Trumps (too close to the train station that you can see what they are doing). Those facing PIE, not interested also.

[Condorich]

I was teasing her to make a statement to be reflected by done deals at 100k above. Many projects near MRT and Caspian is similar and yet cheaper and got more success than this one to speak of.

[xebay11]

of course lah, who doesn't know compare to location, which is better? Kembangan is better lah, just that they only have two condos (next to mrt): Astoria (abit old) and The Trumps (too close to the train station that you can see what they are doing). Those facing PIE, not interested also.

There are many boutique developments also at TK.

[shespawn]

There are many boutique developments also at TK.

The ones I like are all selling above my budget, or too far for my heels to walk to mrt.

[jitkiat]

Kembangan rental yield is not much better than Simei/TM, lacking of shopping centre is a pain (same problem to TM). DBR I walk 3mins can reach Starbucks or send my kid to Montesori/Kumon/music school up at Eastpt, 15mins by train I reach T3@ Changi, 5mins walk to Expo ... like spespawn, although nearer to town, will not consider TK or Kembangan ... I went to see Casa Merah too, nothing much better than DBR.

[xebay11]

Kembangan rental yield is not much better than Simei/TM, lacking of shopping centre is a pain (same problem to TM). DBR I walk 3mins can reach Starbucks or send my kid to Montesori/Kumon/music school up at Eastpt, 15mins by train I reach T3@ Changi, 5mins walk to Expo ... like spespawn, although nearer to town, will not consider TK or Kembangan ... I went to see Casa Merah too, nothing much better than DBR.

I beg to differ, Kembangan / TK has its pros, OK let me qualify TK, as it is quite a large area, so I am basically only refering to the better areas near or at the Siglap connector Lor G, H maybe J, near MRT, they are also a stone's throw to Siglap park connector and can bring you to the best parts of East Coast Park totally accessible by bicycle or a short jog, (saves parking hassles and many expats don't have car) it is also five minutes drive (taxi) to the best food at East Coast Katong, Siglap and Marine Parade, and these are all action areas of the more upmarket sections in the East, unlike HDB towns of Tampines and Simei. These areas are more favoured among the Expats rather than HDB heartlands. So rental yields are high at TK.

[Daniel Foo]

I beg to differ, Kembangan / TK has its pros, OK let me qualify TK, as it is quite a large area, so I am basically only refering to the better areas near or at the Siglap connector Lor G, H maybe J, near MRT, they are also a stone's throw to Siglap park connector and can bring you to the best parts of East Coast Park totally accessible by bicycle or a short jog, (saves parking hassles and many expats don't have car) it is also five minutes drive (taxi) to the best food at East Coast Katong, Siglap and Marine Parade, and these are all action areas of the more upmarket sections in the East, unlike HDB towns of Tampines and Simei. These areas are more favoured among the Expats rather than HDB heartlands. So rental yields are high at TK.

For your infomation, Telok Kurau rental yield for 3 bedders is only $2500-$3000 (max). Can be worse if your condo is deep inside the Lorongs.
My friend is renting a place there.

The pro of Telok Kurau area is that most of the smaller developments is mostly FH. Depending which end of Telok Kurau you are located at, generally if you have a car it is better. If not you need to take the feeder bus Number 15.

No deny Telok Kurau has its charm in terms of eateries and quite near PP.
If for investment, quite hard to offload as too many projects there. People will compare and go for the lowest PSF.

[venus]

All condos hv their pros and cons. Its hard to do a direct comparison. However assuming all variables being equal, and both projects @ simei and TM hv to endure the same mrt noise, I would much rather hv the mrt stn at my doorstep. Its definitely a plus pt over having to walk 5 mins to the station. Just my personal view...cheers

ok, point taken lah. if keep complaining about noise, this will never end. Kembangan astoria's mrt noise is terribly louder! what are you comparing now? staying next to mrt tracks is better than next to mrt station because you have the beeping or loud system announcements.

[xebay11]

For your infomation, Telok Kurau rental yield for 3 bedders is only $2500-$3000 (max). Can be worse if your condo is deep inside the Lorongs.
My friend is renting a place there.

The pro of Telok Kurau area is that most of the smaller developments is mostly FH. Depending which end of Telok Kurau you are located at, generally if you have a car it is better. If not you need to take the feeder bus Number 15.

No deny Telok Kurau has its charm in terms of eateries and quite near PP.
If for investment, quite hard to offload as too many projects there. People will compare and go for the lowest PSF.

I know, that is why I qualified my statement, even in my search for properties I NEVER considered anything past Lorong J and nothing past Telok Kurau Road. The rest of the Lorongs quite another story.

[nochoice]

I know, that is why I qualified my statement, even in my search for properties I NEVER considered anything past Lorong J and nothing past Telok Kurau Road. The rest of the Lorongs quite another story.

To me, I have considered TK before like treeline, the verte etc. IMO although FH is impt, but after much consideration, will not touch those boutique project. I will rather get a LH like double bay or casa merah which has full condo facilities, near mrt rather than a FH boutique in TK.

[xebay11]

To me, I have considered TK before like treeline, the verte etc. IMO although FH is impt, but after much consideration, will not touch those boutique project. I will rather get a LH like double bay or casa merah which has full condo facilities, near mrt rather than a FH boutique in TK.

Well for me I had that choice in 2002, I was looking at TK but got taken in by bigger developments even though 99LH, so after 5 years, I am back and sold the 99 LH property and went FH instead, as the newer developments are much nearer MRT this time.

You may or may not change your mind later, it is an individual's choice.

[nochoice]

Well for me I had that choice in 2002, I was looking at TK but got taken in by bigger developments even though 99LH, so after 5 years, I am back and sold the 99 LH property and went FH instead, as the newer developments are much nearer MRT this time.

You may or may not change your mind later, it is an individual's choice.

TK has too many small development, unless those nearer to kembagan mrt, or for own stay (like those in Lor N) or for children as near tao nan. if not, I have agent friend who told me not easy to rent and sell, as buyer don't even know where is your property.

[tanumy]

Daniel:

Pls u don't keep complaining. U sold ur unit is it at DBR. The fact is DBR is excellent place and with upcoming singapore 4th university and developement at Changi business park it is great place for rental as well as investmentent. DBR place is still quite attractive compared to other suburban condo.

[shespawn]

Daniel:

Pls u don't keep complaining. U sold ur unit is it at DBR. The fact is DBR is excellent place and with upcoming singapore 4th university and developement at Changi business park it is great place for rental as well as investmentent. DBR place is still quite attractive compared to other suburban condo.

I was just wondering where did this parrot go... and here you are!

[pengful]

1st time poster, long time lurker...

Also bought a 3 bedder at DBR facing the lap pool, stack 23 I think. Hopefully the multi-storey carpark will help to reduce the MRT track noise. I agree with some here. Noise is everywhere just a matter of how bearable it is.
No need to talk about MRT, try staying next to any traffic junction and the stop-go noise coming from cars and motorbikes will drive you up the wall, or try next to an expressway.... However, that does not stop some properties from maintaining or even fetching good values. Look at those prime district condos like St Regis, which is next to a traffic junction in the heart of Orchard. It all boils down to location, location, location. Everything else is secondary.
In DBR, I see good opportunities to be at the heart of the action in the East. The location is way better than many I have seen. No need to repeat anymore.
I don't think it is fair to say DBR is crap, or any other place is crap. Name one development that is not crap. Each has its merits and demerits, we all decide based on how the merits outweigh the demerits. After all, it is your money.
I am looking forward to moving in and hoping that I do not end up flipping for a tidy sum.

[Daniel_Yee]

Not really.. Didn't even take a glance at this crap project. To me, beside MRT track are crap projects.

Daniel:

Pls u don't keep complaining. U sold ur unit is it at DBR. The fact is DBR is excellent place and with upcoming singapore 4th university and developement at Changi business park it is great place for rental as well as investmentent. DBR place is still quite attractive compared to other suburban condo.

[tanumy]

it is not crap project for ur info.

Not really.. Didn't even take a glance at this crap project. To me, beside MRT track are crap projects.

[xebay11]

it is not crap project for ur info.

It is his loss, not yours, so cool. DBR with so many facilties and near the Eastpoint mall is wonderful living.

CM owners hoping for mall at the empty lot, in their dreams, that place too low density to support mall, at most some shops and residential will be built.

[tanumy]

tks for support. fully agree.

It is his loss, not yours, so cool. DBR with so many facilties and near the Eastpoint mall is wonderful living.

CM owners hoping for mall at the empty lot, in their dreams, that place too low density to support mall, at most some shops and residential will be built.

[jitkiat]

1st time poster, long time lurker...

Also bought a 3 bedder at DBR facing the lap pool, stack 23 I think. Hopefully the multi-storey carpark will help to reduce the MRT track noise. I agree with some here. Noise is everywhere just a matter of how bearable it is.
No need to talk about MRT, try staying next to any traffic junction and the stop-go noise coming from cars and motorbikes will drive you up the wall, or try next to an expressway.... However, that does not stop some properties from maintaining or even fetching good values. Look at those prime district condos like St Regis, which is next to a traffic junction in the heart of Orchard. It all boils down to location, location, location. Everything else is secondary.
In DBR, I see good opportunities to be at the heart of the action in the East. The location is way better than many I have seen. No need to repeat anymore.
I don't think it is fair to say DBR is crap, or any other place is crap. Name one development that is not crap. Each has its merits and demerits, we all decide based on how the merits outweigh the demerits. After all, it is your money.
I am looking forward to moving in and hoping that I do not end up flipping for a tidy sum.

Welcome pengful, You are directly opposite shespawn ! ppsf for stack 23/24 was very good, something closer to 600psf.

[jitkiat]

It is his loss, not yours, so cool. DBR with so many facilties and near the Eastpoint mall is wonderful living.

CM owners hoping for mall at the empty lot, in their dreams, that place too low density to support mall, at most some shops and residential will be built.

It is always like that, more exclusive means less amenities. Anyway, both DBR / CM owners can hop on a train, 10-15mins to Changi airport for makan/shopping/fun for kids especially @ T3. Expo area will be superb once 4th uni is up in 2013.

[venus]

There is a new TV corner for kids @ B2 in T3 now....

It is always like that, more exclusive means less amenities. Anyway, both DBR / CM owners can hop on a train, 10-15mins to Changi airport for makan/shopping/fun for kids especially @ T3. Expo area will be superb once 4th uni is up in 2013.

[tanumy]

Jitkiat:

Any latest update abt sub sale.............

It is always like that, more exclusive means less amenities. Anyway, both DBR / CM owners can hop on a train, 10-15mins to Changi airport for makan/shopping/fun for kids especially @ T3. Expo area will be superb once 4th uni is up in 2013.

[Daniel Foo]

Jitkiat:

Any latest update abt sub sale.............

Tanumy, you still trying to clear stock at DBR?

You are rather quiet lately, so I presumed DBR all fullt sold oldei?

[pengful]

Welcome pengful, You are directly opposite shespawn ! ppsf for stack 23/24 was very good, something closer to 600psf.

Thanks. Got it at 642 psf. The other day read in the papers people selling 700+ liao so believe price will go up.

Seriously, I hope to move it and furthermore I work at Changi South. Next time can cycle to work!

[shespawn]

Thanks. Got it at 642 psf. The other day read in the papers people selling 700+ liao so believe price will go up.

Seriously, I hope to move it and furthermore I work at Changi South. Next time can cycle to work!

welcome neighbour! im just opposite you, at stack 6.

[tanumy]

shespawn:

how much psf u bought??????

welcome neighbour! im just opposite you, at stack 6.

[tanumy]

Daniel: Everybody know u are crap

Tanumy, you still trying to clear stock at DBR?

You are rather quiet lately, so I presumed DBR all fullt sold oldei?

[pengful]

Daniel: Everybody know u are crap

I think you got the wrong Daniel....