Oasis Garden at Upper Paya Lebar

[penguin]

Those who have collected keys, is it true the Master bathroom doesnt come with a shower screen door? I see that the common toilet has, but not master.

I have a 20mth old son... to add to the playground soon

[lhkang]

I'm from Block 53 too, and still waiting. Looks like we are going to be working on a tight timeline if there are further delays, as we need to firstly complete the defect rectifications and then renovations. Assuming we get our keys around mid to end December, till CNY which is in mid February, there's only at most about 6 weeks. During CNY, work could possibly come to a standstill.

[joetankk]

Just finish the joint inspection with the defects IC. He told me that they will need one month to complete rectification of the defects.

Major concern I have is there's water seepage on all the walls in the master bathroom May need to redo the whole master bathroom. Hope that they will be able to trace the source of problem soon.

Seem like we'll only be able to start reno in January.

[cutematilda]

So sad to hear about the unsatisfactory workmanship

Anyway, my hubby just told me about this latest info: #18-06 Freehold $870 2357 $2050k

[cutematilda]

I wouldn't do that if i were you. They might claim that the defects would have been caused by your contractors. Besides, you would also not know who caused any further damage if you have two different contractors working at the same time.

Hi statix, thanks for the advice! Will take note, but it does appear that it could be unlikely to aim for prior-CNY shifting

[nadoey]

This was told previously by the OG sale agent... Master bathroom no shower screen door

Those who have collected keys, is it true the Master bathroom doesnt come with a shower screen door? I see that the common toilet has, but not master.

I have a 20mth old son... to add to the playground soon

[nadoey]

Oh no... this is serious... how could no one notice it earlier ...

Wonder will this affect the unit below yours?

Just finish the joint inspection with the defects IC. He told me that they will need one month to complete rectification of the defects.

Major concern I have is there's water seepage on all the walls in the master bathroom May need to redo the whole master bathroom. Hope that they will be able to trace the source of problem soon.

Seem like we'll only be able to start reno in January.

[joetankk]

Oh no... this is serious... how could no one notice it earlier ...

Wonder will this affect the unit below yours?

Not sure if the leak is coming from internal or external source. If it's coming from external wall, then it could be possible for the seepage to extend to several units down the rows.

Was witnessing a contractor who's trying to properly fixed some screws onto my main door. Not sure how but he ended up damaging the door frame and causing the cement to chip off.

Now hoping that they will not cause more damage as a result of trying to fix earlier defects.

[Reporter]

The Bartley Road land parcel and a Bodhi tree
H88
Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 12:08

URA has put a site at Bartley Road up on the reserve list and its now open to application. Located right next to Bartley MRT, the 99-year leasehold land parcel it looks to be a location with great potential.

Looking at the site plan, we noticed something interesting - a tree that is to be "retained and protected". After some Googling intensive investigative work, it turns out that the piece of land has a bit of history behind it.

But before we begin, some 'boring' details first. The 99-year leasehold land parcel has a permissible gross floor area of 61,865 sqm or 665,909 sqft. Analysts say bids of $450-$550 psf ppr are quite likely. Some siteplans below:


It is right next to Bartley MRT and for animal lovers, SPCA is right opposite. Site plan: URA


The location of the tree (shown in the dotted circle). Site plan: URA

Here's the interesting stuff, that tree to be conserved is a Bodhi tree, which is considered by Buddhists to be sacred. The tree was part of the Jin Long Si Temple, a unique 'three-religion' (Buddhism, Confucianism and Taoism) temple, which had to make way when the Government issued a land acquisition order in 2003 as part of a redevelopment plan for the Circle Line. There was a bit of a 'ruckus' when the news broke, but eventually the 70-year old temple had to go.


The entrance to the temple.

The 120-year old Bodhi tree stayed on however, as part of Singapore's 'Heritage Trees', which means that it cannot be cut down.
That tree would definitely cause a bit of a headache to any developer who wins the site. Architects planning the site will do well to take into account the Bodhi tree's stature and history. Extra care will be needed during construction too.

[Singapore_Rat]

I'm from Block 53 too, and still waiting. Looks like we are going to be working on a tight timeline if there are further delays, as we need to firstly complete the defect rectifications and then renovations. Assuming we get our keys around mid to end December, till CNY which is in mid February, there's only at most about 6 weeks. During CNY, work could possibly come to a standstill.

let's keep each other posted. Like I mentioned before if our defects are minor then I'll get my contractor to repair.

I've asked the developer if I can at least have access to our unit so that I can take some measurments.

[nadoey]

Not sure if the leak is coming from internal or external source. If it's coming from external wall, then it could be possible for the seepage to extend to several units down the rows.

Was witnessing a contractor who's trying to properly fixed some screws onto my main door. Not sure how but he ended up damaging the door frame and causing the cement to chip off.

Now hoping that they will not cause more damage as a result of trying to fix earlier defects.

It must be very frustrated to see one defects after another...
You should just bring your swimming gear along and dive into the pool to cool down..

[nadoey]

Will be calling the 2 ladies tomolo to make appt to collect my keys...

I think I should be also bringing my swimming gear along... seeing so many different types of defects mentioned so far..

From poor kitchen cabinets workmanship, door stopper magnet, dry kitchen tap got no supply, Coffee maker is not in yet, Wine cooler does not cool very well, Water heater not heating water up even though heater light is on, water seepage on all the walls in the master bathroom, screwing of main door to causing more damage...

[banger69]

I believe the unit that is already occupied is on the 1st floor at Block 51.

Will be getting my keys this Fri. Crossing my fingers that the plumbing and electric works are sound, since I hope to move in this month.

And yes, my 13 month old son will be contributing to the noise level at OG. We can probably gather together and take turns to organise weekly play groups for the toddlers!

[cutematilda]

Sounds like you're pretty confident after having had the chance to preview .. that's good if you can move in by this year-end.

We waiting for preview (yes, only) soon

[jtpy]

Got our keys last week and was busy combing through the unit for defects.. Must say that we're totally disappointed with the shoddy workmanship of my unit.. These are the few major defects in my units that you guys might want to take note:

1. Living room, kitchen and balcony floor tiles uneven. Some pairs of tiles are so badly lay that you can feel "height difference" with your bare foot along the joint line.

2. A third of my balcony is like a pond after a heavy rain

3. One of my bedroom's timber flooring is almost entirely "hollow" underneath.

4. Another of my bedroom's windows are leaking.

5. The cabinet door for the coffeemaker spoiled after a few opening and closing.

6. A sizable number of 3 pin socket covers are so low quality that they got pulled out together with my handphone charger plug...

7. Lastly, the 2 rows of switches for the kitchen appliances (which I still don't understand why they are required) are so badly mounted that I almost tore them off the moment I saw them!! That area is a clutter of mess!!

The representative from the main contractor (defects I/C) admitted to me that their sub-contractors did a real bad job, especially on the flooring.. We're keeping our fingers crossed for the defects to be rectified soon.. It seemed like a long road ahead for us.... What a traumatizing week!!!

[nadoey]

Hi jtpy, no wonder you went "missing" from this forum for awhile ...

After reading your post... it makes my heart sink too...

Shouldn't the main con monitor the sub-con on their work quality?
Cheaper to rectify there and then as compare to make changes now... unless the main con is hoping the owner will not discover the defects or owner is bearable to these defects... or the main con squeeze the sub-con dry dry resulting in cheaper product quality & poor workmanship...

This is so so so bad....

[cutematilda]

Thanks for sharing, jtpy. It seems that OG has become OMG

Now I'm really getting worried about what I may see during the preview.

[banger69]

FYI, if you notice any defects and inform the developer about them, the developer needs to fix the defects in 1 month's time.

If the developer does not do so, you need to give the developer notice to have them fixed within 14 working days.

If the developer fails to respond, you can get the defects fixed yourself and then get your lawyer to submit a claim so you can be reimbursed.

[joetankk]

FYI, if you notice any defects and inform the developer about them, the developer needs to fix the defects in 1 month's time.

If the developer does not do so, you need to give the developer notice to have them fixed within 14 working days.

If the developer fails to respond, you can get the defects fixed yourself and then get your lawyer to submit a claim so you can be reimbursed.

thanks banger69 for highlighting this.

Judging from the number of defects I have and the speed of rectification (Think they only managed to rectify 3 out of over 200 plus defects i submitted over the last 3 days), think will have to ask my contractor to look into this soon.

[jtpy]

Hi jtpy, no wonder you went "missing" from this forum for awhile ...

After reading your post... it makes my heart sink too...

Shouldn't the main con monitor the sub-con on their work quality?
Cheaper to rectify there and then as compare to make changes now... unless the main con is hoping the owner will not discover the defects or owner is bearable to these defects... or the main con squeeze the sub-con dry dry resulting in cheaper product quality & poor workmanship...

This is so so so bad....

Yes, precisely my point to the defects IC.... I pass a snide remark on his bosses' stupidity to let his sub-con screw them up big time and now they may to accomodate to all the defects claims which would probably cost more $$ to fix..

In any case, I'm going to closely monitor their rectification progress of my 3 pages long "summarised" defects list and pursue with my lawyer once they cannot deliver.. That would mean 1 months 2 weeks from yesterday...

[jtpy]

Thanks for sharing, jtpy. It seems that OG has become OMG

Now I'm really getting worried about what I may see during the preview.

The defects IC claimed that there are some units in the other blocks (I'm 51) that are quite well done.. Let's see how true it is..

I hope the rest of the owners here will not face the same problems as me...

[jtpy]

FYI, if you notice any defects and inform the developer about them, the developer needs to fix the defects in 1 month's time.

If the developer does not do so, you need to give the developer notice to have them fixed within 14 working days.

If the developer fails to respond, you can get the defects fixed yourself and then get your lawyer to submit a claim so you can be reimbursed.

Yes, the main con is fully aware of this deadline and they are struggling to make good all the defects for those owners that collected keys... However, looking at the massiveness of the defects, it's either their stall the key collection for the subsequent phases or they would face a huge backlog...

[jtpy]

Also, if they are unable to fulfill the rectification of defects, I would consult my lawyer to see if I can seek compensation for my incurred maintenance fees during the defects rectification period..

What pisses us most is that we are now paying maintenance fees, monthly bank instalments and yet sitting on a piece of property that we cannot move into any time soon..

[joetankk]

Yes, precisely my point to the defects IC.... I pass a snide remark on his bosses' stupidity to let his sub-con screw them up big time and now they may to accomodate to all the defects claims which would probably cost more $$ to fix..

In any case, I'm going to closely monitor their rectification progress of my 3 pages long "summarised" defects list and pursue with my lawyer once they cannot deliver.. That would mean 1 months 2 weeks from yesterday...

Hi jtpy,

Correct timeline should be 1 month and not 1 month 2 weeks. You can send notice to developer through lawyer after one month had past from the date you submit the defect list. The notice should state your intent to engage your own contractor to remedy the defects together with the estimated cost.

The developer will then get 2 weeks to make good the defects failing which your contractor can proceed to remedy all defects. The cost will be deducted from the outstanding balance owed to developer.

[joetankk]

Also, if they are unable to fulfill the rectification of defects, I would consult my lawyer to see if I can seek compensation for my incurred maintenance fees during the defects rectification period..

What pisses us most is that we are now paying maintenance fees, monthly bank instalments and yet sitting on a piece of property that we cannot move into any time soon..

hi jtpy,

have you turn on your water/power supply? just wondering if such cost can be billed to developer as well since any charges incurred would most likely be attributed to the workers tapping the power/water as there is nobody else using the utilities.

[jtpy]

Hi jtpy,

Correct timeline should be 1 month and not 1 month 2 weeks. You can send notice to developer through lawyer after one month had past from the date you submit the defect list. The notice should state your intent to engage your own contractor to remedy the defects together with the estimated cost.

The developer will then get 2 weeks to make good the defects failing which your contractor can proceed to remedy all defects. The cost will be deducted from the outstanding balance owed to developer.

Noted with thanks... 2 Jan 2010 shall be the day...

[jtpy]

hi jtpy,

have you turn on your water/power supply? just wondering if such cost can be billed to developer as well since any charges incurred would most likely be attributed to the workers tapping the power/water as there is nobody else using the utilities.

That is one of the reasons for me not to turn on the supply.. However, without that, I can't check if the water pipes are properly installed... Dilemma

[joetankk]

That is one of the reasons for me not to turn on the supply.. However, without that, I can't check if the water pipes are properly installed... Dilemma

Actually that's the reason why I chose to turn it on. True enough, there's water leakage at the Master Bathroom. All the walls in the Master Bathroom are constantly damp. The hinges, ledges and mirror together with the cabinet are rusted/damaged as a result of the seepage.

I had told the defects IC to contact us when they start investigation work for the leaks and replacement of the mirror/cabinet. No reply from him on this though.

Will be going down tomorrow again to check on it. So much hassle

[jtpy]

Actually that's the reason why I chose to turn it on. True enough, there's water leakage at the Master Bathroom. All the walls in the Master Bathroom are constantly damp. The hinges, ledges and mirror together with the cabinet are rusted/damaged as a result of the seepage.

I had told the defects IC to contact us when they start investigation work for the leaks and replacement of the mirror/cabinet. No reply from him on this though.

Will be going down tomorrow again to check on it. So much hassle

Think the defects IC is having a hard time with the enormous defects from the individual units... When I spoke to him yesterday, he looked damn shack..

Think I'll just turn on my supply next week and see if the water pipings are properly installed...

[xebay11]

Fix the most costly items first, just in case the developer runs out of steam in rectifying defects, claiming through legal action is not easy and you do not have small claims court backing I would seriously look at the uneven tiles if I were you.