The Raintree (D21, 99 years leasehold, Frasers Centrepoint)

[Unregistered]

well, there is nus near botanic gardens station.

NUS law school wasn't there when they decided on the station.

In any case, if NUS is the reason they hv a station there then we would have seen a station right at NUS main campus long time ago. Till now, the only one (Circle Line) which is still a very far walk for most students.... will be located next to NUH.

There're reasons for not allowing MRT stations too close to campuses. Another e.g. look at NTU. Students till need to board a feeder bus fr Boon Lay. The line could have easily go all the way to NTU campus.

[Unregistered]

LOL I'm just playing the selfless uncivic-minded devil here. I can't stop you from deluding yourself of course if you want to, and if you want to delude yourself thinking that Bt Timah Hill is such a major attraction that the government has vested interests in drawing more maddening crowds to the tranquil nature reserve. Keep on dreaming...

[QUOTE=Unregistered]

Stop the delusions and guesses, there's too much of these going on in this thread.

Don't be selfish. You are not the only one reading this forum. There are other forumers who may be interested to know about the various possibilities. You can't stop us from discussing topics that are of interest to us albeit not of interest to you. Please be more civic-minded.

[Unregistered]

继续做我们的MRT梦??

[QUOTE=Unregistered]LOL I'm just playing the selfless uncivic-minded devil here. I can't stop you from deluding yourself of course if you want to, and if you want to delude yourself thinking that Bt Timah Hill is such a major attraction that the government has vested interests in drawing more maddening crowds to the tranquil nature reserve. Keep on dreaming...

[jrdl]

I dun think anyone is being deluded here...each is speculating where the MRT would be positioned based on their reasons.... all sounded reasonably valid.... it's a healthy debate but of course the final verdict rests on our own Garment... just keep the negativity out...

[Unregistered]

I dun think it is completely inconceivable for the state land beside south haven to be used for the MRT station, because that will serve people local and tourist alike visiting the BT nature reserve. If this is a key objective, that will be a natural choice, and we can then call it the Nature Reserve Station.

Again, I think it will be good if it's there, even if it is not, any station near by is still a bonus to RTers....

[Unregistered]

[QUOTE=Unregistered]继续做我们的MRT梦??

Whooo........... You are a fast learner, showing much progress, picking up our language so fast. Keep up the good work! Whoooooooo.........

[RT sucks]

Your RT sucks alright? Not near town, D21, lousy ulu location, next to radio tower with radiation, You place stinks and has monkey, weird insects and snakes. Your prices will not be able to sustain no matter what you say.

Good luck to your lousy and cheapo investment.

[Unregistered]

The LTA's masterplan is out with detailed description on each MRT's proposed concept, loaction and design. Instead of arguing here why not just use your connections to find out where the locations of the station are. I have asked and am satisfied with the answer.

[Unregistered]

Your RT sucks alright? Not near town, D21, lousy ulu location, next to radio tower with radiation, You place stinks and has monkey, weird insects and snakes. Your prices will not be able to sustain no matter what you say.

Good luck to your lousy and cheapo investment.

In Jan-Feb, I bought some cheap penny stocks which I thought they were quite undervalued. I was looking for 50% gain in one to two years at the time, but I was wrong, I had since sold almost all of them for 80-150% gain.

For most RT owners, I think they bought their units at around 550-800K, I have no trouble to see the value for majority of RT units appreciate by 70-120% by 1st to 2nd quarter of 2008. I do have trouble to see those medium range condos (1.5-2.5 million per unit) appreciate by big margins though. Perhaps, 20-40% in two years from here probably is max you can ask for barring no bad news in the next 12 months. If China stock market bursts or worse bird flu hits Asia, the high end and medium range condos will take the most severe hit.

I have been investing in property and stock for than 25 years and has been lucky to stay well above water at this point after quite a number of down turns. One lesson that I learn is that never too over optimistic about any investment and pay a lot attention to risk premium in any investment evaluation.

[Unregistered]

Point is right. In Singapore, there can never be certainty from the way the economy is going. At least for right now. Had make some major investments all the way from 2003 in stocks till now. Cumulative gain for some counters is at an average of 500%. Roller coaster might be having south in the near future as senseless increment in prices does not conform to logical foundational analysis. There is a time for everything and I guess time is the most important aspect when you make your decision for major purchase/investments.

[Unregistered]

The LTA's masterplan is out with detailed description on each MRT's proposed concept, loaction and design. Instead of arguing here why not just use your connections to find out where the locations of the station are. I have asked and am satisfied with the answer.

Is this available online?

[Unregistered]

I'm afraid not my friend. Masterplan is usually kept confidential at the higher management level. That is why you need to use your connections. But fear not if you are a RT owner. Good news on the way.

[Unregistered]

I'm afraid not my friend. Masterplan is usually kept confidential at the higher management level. That is why you need to use your connections. But fear not if you are a RT owner. Good news on the way.

Care to share more of your privileged information with us since you have the connections but we don't?

[Unregistered]

Oh sure, I'm going to believe information from an anonymous post generated by a dog behind the computer. My source tells me that not only a MRT station is coming, there's going to be a bus interchange, airport, zoo, and woodbridge hospital coming! Hurray!!

I'm afraid not my friend. Masterplan is usually kept confidential at the higher management level. That is why you need to use your connections. But fear not if you are a RT owner. Good news on the way.

[Unregistered]

Is this available online?

http://spring.ura.gov.sg/dcd/eservic...fm?view=mpview

Masterplan 2003 though.

[Unregistered]

Oh sure, I'm going to believe information from an anonymous post generated by a dog behind the computer. My source tells me that not only a MRT station is coming, there's going to be a bus interchange, airport, zoo, and woodbridge hospital coming! Hurray!!

Listen, you name calling bastard!
There is no place for low class idiot like you in this forum!

[Unregistered]

[QUOTE=Unregistered]Listen, you name calling bastard!
There is no place for low class idiot like you in this forum![/QU

Cool it. Just ignore him/her. Not worth it to get yourself upset over his/her remarks.

Ignore him/her and he/she will go away.

Have a good day

[Unregistered]

[QUOTE=Unregistered]

Listen, you name calling bastard!
There is no place for low class idiot like you in this forum![/QU

Cool it. Just ignore him/her. Not worth it to get yourself upset over his/her remarks.

Ignore him/her and he/she will go away.

Have a good day

Fully agreed. We are gracious folks at this forum and intend to keep it this way ...

[Unregistered]

Ooohhh, looks like somebody just lost it. What a disgrace to RT owners!
I'm back, I'll be back, hasta la vista, cry-baby!

Listen, you name calling bastard!
There is no place for low class idiot like you in this forum!

[Unregistered]

Ooohhh, looks like somebody just lost it. What a disgrace to RT owners!
I'm back, I'll be back, hasta la vista, cry-baby!

Listen up
Owners of RT are probably too nice peoples to deal with punk like you,
You dare to meet me up somewhere so I can really fix you up and I am sure your mama will appreciate it

[Unregistered]

hi guys- haven't been to the reserve for a few years and managed to go there yesterday. was really attracted to the raintree condo. don't know why i didnt know something was building there may i know what's the resale price now? would like to consider getting a unit there. thanks and have a nice weekend.

[Unregistered]

about 620 - 650psf now

[Unregistered]

hi guys- haven't been to the reserve for a few years and managed to go there yesterday. was really attracted to the raintree condo. don't know why i didnt know something was building there may i know what's the resale price now? would like to consider getting a unit there. thanks and have a nice weekend.

For the 3-BR rail facing unit (1270 sqf), one ad in ST yesterday asking for 580 psf for a third floor unit.

Developer set the price differential between these (rail facing) and pool facing units by about 80 psf from day one. Although for the last 20 units (all pool facing) sold, the differentials were much higher as the rail facing units sold out much earlier and developer raised price for the remaining units by quite a lot. The last unit sold (3+1 pool facing) by developer was at 650 psf. Based on yesterday's ad, the differentials for these two types of units are more or less unchanged from early days in subsale market. Since most owners for rail facing units bought much earlier for relatively low price, hope there is room for negoiation.

[Unregistered]

Great news for rail-facing RT owners! Not only MRT is coming, the KL-Singapore high-speed railway is coming your way too outside your windows at the minimum speed of 150km/h to 300km/h every 1-2 hours . Get ready your ear plugs, double-glazed windows, and sound-proofing facilities! You gonna need these real bad!

[Unregistered]

Great news for rail-facing RT owners! Not only MRT is coming, the KL-Singapore high-speed railway is coming your way too outside your windows at the minimum speed of 150km/h to 300km/h every 1-2 hours . Get ready your ear plugs, double-glazed windows, and sound-proofing facilities! You gonna need these real bad!

If they decide to build the high speed train, most likely the terminal will be at the border (woodland). Even if they decide to use the same route as existing train, there nothing to worry about as current high speed train technology is mainly using levitational technology and the train actually suspends from the track by a couple of mm when it is in motion and does not make direct physical contact with the track beneath it. As such, it will be very quiet in comparing to conventional trains.

[Unregistered]

If they decide to build the high speed train, most likely the terminal will be at the border (woodland). Even if they decide to use the same route as existing train, there nothing to worry about as current high speed train technology is mainly using levitational technology and the train actually suspends from the track by a couple of mm when it is in motion and does not make direct physical contact with the track beneath it. As such, it will be very quiet in comparing to conventional trains.

MRT for the BT line will be run mostly underground and there is nothing to worry about also.

[Unregistered]

This high-speed rail is worrisome indeed. From what I know:
Project start/end:
KL Sentral/Marina Bay

Stations:
KL Sentral - KLIA - JB Sentral - Marina Bay

JB/S'pore portion:
Elevated track (27km) from JB Sentral to tanjung pagar [above KTM rail – KTM rail to be upgraded to double-track rails by project promoter in return for use of right-of-way]
Underground track (3.5km) from tanjung pagar to Marina Bay

Elevated tracks mean that there's going to be double the noise level at times.

[Unregistered]

Guys guys... relax! The high speed train aint going to happen. M'sian govt has made it clear that if the private sector wants to build it then fine, they will give their blessings. YTL has submitted a plan.... they will build it but lease it back to M'sian govt. According to reports published in M'sia, the govt said NO NO.... leasing price is too high.

Some learnings -- In Europe where you have the TGV and ICE... all fast trains... doing very bad business coz of competition fr low cost carriers. Soon the KL-SIN air route will be liberated.... expect more airlines to fly here... Competition will drive costs down. Hence forth, not financially feasible for a high speed train to operate. Start up cost is too high but returns not assured.

So RT owners, don't worry

What you will probably see soon is.... MRT line from Woodlands going into JB, connecting to the monorail they're going to build there.

[Unregistered]

A statement from the Malaysian Railway (KTMB).....

'Recently there was a private proposal to build and operate a high speed line between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore. As far as KTMB is concerned, we prefer to concentrate on modernising the existing infrastructure through double tracking and electrification from Seremban to Johor Bahru or Singapore. In this way the huge investment in the railway infrastructure will not solely benefit passenger services, but also freight trains on the existing and well-connected network. Double-tracking and electrification of the existing network would improve our capability, and offer the greatest overall benefit to the country.'

[Unregistered]

A statement from the Malaysian Railway (KTMB).....

'Recently there was a private proposal to build and operate a high speed line between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore. As far as KTMB is concerned, we prefer to concentrate on modernising the existing infrastructure through double tracking and electrification from Seremban to Johor Bahru or Singapore. In this way the huge investment in the railway infrastructure will not solely benefit passenger services, but also freight trains on the existing and well-connected network. Double-tracking and electrification of the existing network would improve our capability, and offer the greatest overall benefit to the country.'

As I understand, the railway guys have embarked on a $9billion upgrading project. So we shall expect more comfortable rides but the new tracks won't be able to support high speed trains. Also, I don't think it makes much sense for a private company to build an alternative line for high speed train between KL and SIN. The market is not that big for two lines.