The Raintree (D21, 99 years leasehold, Frasers Centrepoint)

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I have a feeling SLA is right and developer is wrong.

I think the opposite. The map from SLA must be wrong.

As you know, Le Wood is built right by the edge of the public parking lot and cycling trail. Imagine if you want to build a road from that position to reach Raintree, the length of the road neded would actually be much shorter than the existing one, but the parking lot and the cycling trail will definitely be affected

Unless the URA is planning to build a multi storey car park there, it will aggravate the existing problem (early morning and evening hrs) for parking due to further shrinkage of the parking lot space

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Maybe miscommunication between both parties? I have seen a brand new bus stop built and torn down 2 or 3 times to be replaced with another new one afew metres down the road within half a year's time near Bouna vista afew years back.

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when i was at the lawyer's signing the legal papers, saw that the BUKIT DRIVE road was similar to the SLA one, ie it routes north of blk 99, but the land north of blk 99 is the hindhede nature reserve bicycle track

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I think the opposite. The map from SLA must be wrong.
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I agree, based on the drawing, doesn't seem practical what SLA is trying to "plan". It may look good on drawing, but in reality ??
Did SLA subtantiate their claim in their reply ?

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when i was at the lawyer's signing the legal papers, saw that the BUKIT DRIVE road was similar to the SLA one, ie it routes north of blk 99, but the land north of blk 99 is the hindhede nature reserve bicycle track

Incidentally, one of several questions we posed to our lawyer : Right now, Bukit Drive leads to RT and is a dead end road. What's the plan for the future? Is it going to run further in for more condo developments in the future? From the map, looks like there's plan for further road extension?

Lawyer's answer is vague... possible to extend road further in future?

Anyone aware what is the future master plan for this area?

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I agree, based on the drawing, doesn't seem practical what SLA is trying to "plan". It may look good on drawing, but in reality ??
Did SLA subtantiate their claim in their reply ?

The SLA guy said they have not gone to the site to check the new road yet. He maintained that if the new road is not built according to their plan, then it must be a temp road built by developer. The way he see it, if bukit drive is not built between Le Wood and public carpark, then they would consider it as not yet being built ie still "under construction".

I tried to convince him the new road is permanent and is the bukit drive but he maintained his stand. Not having the full picture myself, I just left it as it is, who know, along the way, there could have been changes made to the plan?

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The Bt Timah Line is confirmed to be built by 2015. LTA is still studying the exact locations of the stations.
http://app.lta.gov.sg/corp_press_content.asp?start=1763

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The Bt Timah Line is confirmed to be built by 2015. LTA is still studying the exact locations of the stations.
http://app.lta.gov.sg/corp_press_content.asp?start=1763

Really good news! State land near MRT will be selling like hot cakes soon!!

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Out of curiousity, what type of shops would you like?

Maybe 1 convenient store and a clinic/salon/pet groomer?

what about a student before and after school care that caters mostly to primary level kids with homework supervisory function? then again, shop space at RT is quite limited and most families have maids. may not be popular as not all units can benefit..... just my thought

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what about a student before and after school care that caters mostly to primary level kids with homework supervisory function? then again, shop space at RT is quite limited and most families have maids. may not be popular as not all units can benefit..... just my thought

Many condos much larger (in terms of number of units) than raintree has only a mini mart of a size about 200 sft. It is therefore unusual that there are two full size units set aside for shops. It is even intriguing, the two shops are anything but near the entrance.

I hope these shops are exclusive for residents of raintree. However, a few months ago, some agents did show me a brochure where the two shops were crossed out. During the recent showflat relaunch, I noticed the project lay out posted on the wall where two shops are selling the space for one instead of two full size units. It is rather confusing and I wonder whether residents can sue the developer if they fail to honor the initial plan. wonder any lawyer here can help to answer this question?

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Many condos much larger (in terms of number of units) than raintree has only a mini mart of a size about 200 sft. It is therefore unusual that there are two full size units set aside for shops. It is even intriguing, the two shops are anything but near the entrance.

I hope these shops are exclusive for residents of raintree. However, a few months ago, some agents did show me a brochure where the two shops were crossed out. During the recent showflat relaunch, I noticed the project lay out posted on the wall where two shops are selling the space for one instead of two full size units. It is rather confusing and I wonder whether residents can sue the developer if they fail to honor the initial plan. wonder any lawyer here can help to answer this question?

Sorry for the typos

it should be, "...where two shops are sharing the space of just one full size unit instead of two in the original brochure."

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Sorry for the typos

it should be, "...where two shops are sharing the space of just one full size unit instead of two in the original brochure."

indeed it will make a whole world of difference in terms of space.... can developer "any-o-how" change facilities plan as and when they like???

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indeed it will make a whole world of difference in terms of space.... can developer "any-o-how" change facilities plan as and when they like???

agent said they crossed out the plan on the 2 shops sometime back, can't confirm if it'll still be there

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agent said they crossed out the plan on the 2 shops sometime back, can't confirm if it'll still be there

when the showroom first re opened , the shop spaces were still up for rent . actually , on the website and booket , advertised convenience shops as part of the deal , so it's only fair that this is carried thru.

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when the showroom first re opened , the shop spaces were still up for rent . actually , on the website and booket , advertised convenience shops as part of the deal , so it's only fair that this is carried thru.

The good thing is the for two shops are already planned for. In fact, those space is very different than regular unit as it seems to have ultra high ceiling.
I don't think they can be sold as regular units anyway.

If developer have interesting idea of using those space such as make it to become some sort of facilities, it may not necessary be bad and it all depends what they have in store for us

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The SLA guy said they have not gone to the site to check the new road yet. He maintained that if the new road is not built according to their plan, then it must be a temp road built by developer. The way he see it, if bukit drive is not built between Le Wood and public carpark, then they would consider it as not yet being built ie still "under construction".

I tried to convince him the new road is permanent and is the bukit drive but he maintained his stand. Not having the full picture myself, I just left it as it is, who know, along the way, there could have been changes made to the plan?

If that new Bukit Drive road is built by the developer it may not be the real thing. The real one should be constructed by government, right? Hope I am wrong on this. Otherwise it's going to be a hassle getting in and out and The Raintree will not be so tart looi.

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If that new Bukit Drive road is built by the developer it may not be the real thing. The real one should be constructed by government, right? Hope I am wrong on this. Otherwise it's going to be a hassle getting in and out and The Raintree will not be so tart looi.

If i remember correctly, when i flipped thro' the thick stack of papers sent by developer when you sign the option paper, one part of it did mention that building the new road that leads to RT is part of developer's responsibility. In this case, developer should be the one to build new road.

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This is so weird. I was also confused by the new road, but it does not make sense to build it above le wood as (a) it will mean part of the carpark and the bicycle track goes, (b) it will go directly into protected land and right next to hindhede quarry (which will affect the nature) and (c) why build a dead end road into the side of the raintree which goes nowhere?

The current road goes right into the entrance and car park of the raintree and i don't see how deconstructing it and rebuilding another one makes sense.

Such awful road planning by SLA.

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Actually I am wondering if it is going to be a real road (i.e. for cars) since you will note that Hindhede Drive goes right up into Bt Timah Hill/Nature Reserve and we all know it is only a walking trail! Maybe they intend to renovate the biking trail.

And another thing, I was walking along the biking trail and they cordoned off the reserve side for "conservation" and "reforestation". Certainly it cannot be consistent with that aim to build a road right smack into that area and also it will be awful for visitors to the quarry and Waring Hut.

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This is so weird. I was also confused by the new road, but it does not make sense to build it above le wood as (a) it will mean part of the carpark and the bicycle track goes, (b) it will go directly into protected land and right next to hindhede quarry (which will affect the nature) and (c) why build a dead end road into the side of the raintree which goes nowhere?

The current road goes right into the entrance and car park of the raintree and i don't see how deconstructing it and rebuilding another one makes sense.

Such awful road planning by SLA.

For quarry visiting attractions maybe??

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If i remember correctly, when i flipped thro' the thick stack of papers sent by developer when you sign the option paper, one part of it did mention that building the new road that leads to RT is part of developer's responsibility. In this case, developer should be the one to build new road.

agreed.it is actually very common practice for developer to undertake the developing of a new road as part of the deal for development for a particular piece of land with no/ limited road access.

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According to a post on another thread, Hillview Regency is asking over $900psf!!!!

Wow! Makes RT look like a bargain....

Wow!!! Today 1353sqft asking for 980k.
Pretty soon you guys will be millionaires.
Maybe more. Heard say Yamashita's gold is buried nearby.

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Wow!!! Today 1353sqft asking for 980k.
Pretty soon you guys will be millionaires.
Maybe more. Heard say Yamashita's gold is buried nearby.

wait long long......................................................................

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ThursdayBT property transaction price for early April listed 1808sq ft sold at 910K.The first buyer must have made a kill.This unit is only gr fl and facing partial rail.

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ThursdayBT property transaction price for early April listed 1808sq ft sold at 910K.The first buyer must have made a kill.This unit is only gr fl and facing partial rail.

Do you know how much per sf did the first owner pay for this unit?

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wait long long......................................................................

Around TOP time would do
should be less than a year

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Wow!!! Today 1353sqft asking for 980k.
Pretty soon you guys will be millionaires.
Maybe more. Heard say Yamashita's gold is buried nearby.

haha... since when has singapore become part of philipines?

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Wow!!! Today 1353sqft asking for 980k.
Pretty soon you guys will be millionaires.
Maybe more. Heard say Yamashita's gold is buried nearby.

out of curiosity: if really find gold within RT plot, it wouldn't belong to RT owners as the land is leased for 99 years. only physical building above ground belong to RT (for 99 years) but the land and whatever found below ground isn't. am i right to say that?

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out of curiosity: if really find gold within RT plot, it wouldn't belong to RT owners as the land is leased for 99 years. only physical building above ground belong to RT (for 99 years) but the land and whatever found below ground isn't. am i right to say that?

Unless there are gold bars buried under the ground of RT, if it is just gold mine, it will be too expensive to recover the gold. The developer probably would still find building condos is the fast and easy way to make money.

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I think that in the short term, yes Raintree is the only condo with such location advantages. But with the MRT line coming up, I am sure the GOVT will open up more residential plots for sale deeper into the forest.

Already, there is a very big plot of land enough for a few big condo developments in the Old Holland Rd area between Bukit Timah Rd and Ulu Pandan Rd. Of course the govt has anticipated the population explosion and Bukit Timah MRT line.

Not to mention the supply of land coming up in Bukit Timah as well if GOVT decides to en bloc Turf City. That area can build at least 10 condo projects.