Carabelle (D5, Freehold, Sim Lian)

[xebay11]

Did I diss your language, style or schools? Can't a person reserve the right to make his children speak english with home accent rather than singapore accent, which would make it difficult for them to be reintegrated back into the society that they belong? talk about obnoxious and loudmouth.

My young family is part foreign too and I don't diss Singapore, and when my children need to reintergrate, I will simply send them back at the correct age and time, if you are here they will pick up the local accent, no need to diss here and there, I make the best use of my stay for my children to learn Mandarin, so that they will have an advantage back home. If they choose to remain there, or in Singapore, Mandarin is an asset. We see ourselves as truly mobile and talented.

Going back to overhead bridges from Carabelle to Clementi, many Singaporeans see them as mountains.

[proud owner]

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Going back to overhead bridges from Carabelle to Clementi, many Singaporeans see them as mountains.[/quote]


aiyo enuff already lah

still going on about it ...
you think driving along thomson that stretch very nice meh ?

saturday novena church so crowded .. so many cars .. walk along that stretch also can kana lung cancer ... is that why all the medical centres and hospitals are there ????

JUST A THOUGH ... NOT DISPUTING YOU AND ANYONE ..

DONT REBUTT ME PLEASE >>

just trying to make a point .. thats for every Good ..there will be a bad ..
so just enjoy the good of every project ,,, and accept the bad of it ..as long as its within your tolerance level ...

please talk something else other than carabelle and cube
thank you all

[stalingrad]

My young family is part foreign too and I don't diss Singapore, and when my children need to reintergrate, I will simply send them back at the correct age and time, if you are here they will pick up the local accent, no need to diss here and there, I make the best use of my stay for my children to learn Mandarin, so that they will have an advantage back home. If they choose to remain there, or in Singapore, Mandarin is an asset. We see ourselves as truly mobile and talented.

Going back to overhead bridges from Carabelle to Clementi, many Singaporeans see them as mountains.

where from? Thailand?

[panamera]

Then why on earth stay here so long? You are welcome to leave by all means, I will be the first to volunteer sending you home and doing Singapore a great favour. Can't say I am not gracious or graceful yeah? LOL

And if you really are Malaysian, I find it hard to believe your child is in an International School, cause I don't see how an International School in Singapore will help your kid adjust to backwater Malaysian life.

Dont think he is a Malaysian (what an insult to all the Malaysians if he is)

We know he is a Canadian PR from one of his older posts.

That probably means HK or PRC? My money will be on HK.

[sleek]

Is this the same stalingrad?


September 26, 2009 Saturday, 02:55 PM




I am an PR from an english speaking country. My wife is a Singaporean. Tell you the truth, the fact that Singaporeans speak such a strange tongue called Singalish was why I insisted to my wife tha we put our kids in international schools, and retain their foreign citizeships. I cringe every time I hear singaporeans speak english. I cannot bear the thought of having my children speak english like them,

I also agee it is not realistic to expect children to be bilingual at such young ages. The result of emphasizing both chinese and english in schools is that Singporean students are good at neither english or chinese. I had the opportunity to read essays written by Singapore students in universities. Tell you the truth, if they were in high shools in the US, they would get an F for having so many grammatical errors and awkward expressions.

I am not here to insult Singaporeans. I am here to tell the truth about the state of English in Singapore.

[gfoo]

whether one's home country is english speaking or having kids attending int'l school doesn't necessarily put one in the upper echelons of society

[Avatar]

Is this the same stalingrad?

September 26, 2009 Saturday, 02:55 PM I I am an PR from an english speaking country. My wife is a Singaporean. Tell you the truth, the fact that Singaporeans speak such a strange tongue called Singalish was why I insisted to my wife tha we put our kids in international schools, and retain their foreign citizeships. I cringe every time I hear singaporeans speak english. I cannot bear the thought of having my children speak english like them,

I also agee it is not realistic to expect children to be bilingual at such young ages. The result of emphasizing both chinese and english in schools is that Singporean students are good at neither english or chinese. I had the opportunity to read essays written by Singapore students in universities. Tell you the truth, if they were in high shools in the US, they would get an F for having so many grammatical errors and awkward expressions.

I am not here to insult Singaporeans. I am here to tell the truth about the state of English in Singapore.

Then his english is equally bad with some many spelling and punctuation mistakes. If he comes from an english speaking country, it is a shame that he couldn't write and read english properly.

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whatever you say. how typical of singaporeans, petty, jealous and obnoxious. I have yet to see one gracious and graceful singaporean after my long stay here.

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The most sad thing for him is...his wife is a Singaporean and he has yet to meet one who is gracious and graceful...I think he must be leading a miserable life all these years.

[stalingrad]

I am here to say the truth about my opinion too but being a resident there, isn't your opinion not objective?

You haven't been to many condos, do you? What makes you think alot of condo do not have olympic size swimming pool?

I think your comments that condo having swimming pool resemble bathtub is exaggerating.

Having shuttle service has its disadvantage too as it will add on to your maintenance fee in the future as usually developers will only subsidy for the residents until a certain period.

Hmm..I see your previous postings that you have been ruthless in comments to other projects.
The funny thing is your posting on other projects that they are expensive (e.g if a project can sell so much, then Carabelle can also fetch so much), etc....but over here, you asking who are we to say that Carabelle is overpriced? So, who are you to say Cube8 cannot be selling at $1,300psf?

if this what Avatar can do in writing, I am afraid he cannot do much better than ris low in spoken english. there are so many grammatical errors, I don't know where to start. is this an example of written singlish?

[Regulators]

I was schooled in England and NUS, so I think I am in a better position to comment. It is wrong to say that Singaporeans speak lousier English than British or that we have a more inferior standard of English compared to the British or European for the matter. If one has travelled to various parts of Europe and UK, you will realise that English can sound really strange in some of these places. For example, the Scottish would pronounce 'computer' as 'com-pu-er' as they do not realy pronounce the 't' sound very distinctly. They would pronounce 'iron' as 'i-ren' stressing heavily on the 'r' sound. Mind you, the lady who pronounced in that manner was a teacher in Scotland so would you consider that to be good pronunciation? If you move to other parts of Scotland, you will find British with strange Cockney accents that is hardly intelligible speech. Many Asians equate speaking English fast or with some local accent from a British city with speaking good English, but that ideology is heavily flawed. If you break down the sentences of an English speaking joe on the streets in London, you will be able to spot grammatical errors in their sentences, especially the misuse of past, past perfect and present perfect tenses. Some do not even know their subject-verb agreement that was taught in our primary schools, sad to say. Many of my English classmates feel that Singapore English pronunciation is crisp and clear and is untainted by the heavy local accents in certain parts of their country. If we move to other parts of Europe like Italy, spain and Germany, I can safely tell you that our standard of English is way better than the people in these places in terms of speech and writing. With regard to international schools in singapore, if you send a kid to an american one for English, i think the parent is a goon. If the child is taught to speak like Bush, that will be the end , if the child is taught to speak like Obama, that is a different matter. But you must remember that Obama was schooled in Asia as a kid. Many singapore kids are sent to international schools because they are underachievers in the local system and i know some parents that do so. The tycoon who bought the expensive scupture is one good example, with an entire family of underachievers all in international schools.

[stalingrad]

I was schooled in England and NUS, so I think I am in a better position to comment. It is wrong to say that Singaporeans speak lousier English than British or that we have a more inferior standard of English compared to the British or European for the matter. If one has travelled to various parts of Europe and UK, you will realise that English can sound really strange in some of these places. For example, the Scottish would pronounce 'computer' as 'com-pu-er' as they do not realy pronounce the 't' sound very distinctly. They would pronounce 'iron' as 'i-ren' stressing heavily on the 'r' sound. Mind you, the lady who pronounced in that manner was a teacher in Scotland so would you consider that to be good pronunciation? If you move to other parts of Scotland, you will find British with strange Cockney accents that is hardly intelligible speech. Many Asians equate speaking English fast or with some local accent from a British city with speaking good English, but that ideology is heavily flawed. If you break down the sentences of an English speaking joe on the streets in London, you will be able to spot grammatical errors in their sentences, especially the misuse of past, past perfect and present perfect tenses. Some do not even know their subject-verb agreement that was taught in our primary schools, sad to say. Many of my English classmates feel that Singapore English pronunciation is crisp and clear and is untainted by the heavy local accents in certain parts of their country. If we move to other parts of Europe like Italy, spain and Germany, I can safely tell you that our standard of English is way better than the people in these places in terms of speech and writing. With regard to international schools in singapore, if you send a kid to an american one for English, i think the parent is a goon. If the child is taught to speak like Bush, that will be the end , if the child is taught to speak like Obama, that is a different matter. But you must remember that Obama was schooled in Asia as a kid. Many singapore kids are sent to international schools because they are underachievers in the local system and i know some parents that do so. The tycoon who bought the expensive scupture is one good example, with an entire family of underachievers all in international schools.

You think the rote learning used in local schools is better? you think that weighing down kids with school bags of 20kg is normal? you think that asking a kid to learn just math and languages is the best way to start their young life? You think that trapping young kids in cram schools called tuition centers is healthy? You think that the high suicide and depression rates for singaporean kids are a good thing?

As for your comments about achievers, let's see who can achieve more? who have more creativity? How many international brand names and entrepreneurs are singaporean? Singapore works hard, that is true. but they have zero creativity and entrepreneurship. that is all the result of the school system that is entirely based on the old, Chinese philosophy about how kids should be educated, which is work work work, but no room for creativity.

[Avatar]

if this what Avatar can do in writing, I am afraid he cannot do much better than ris low in spoken english. there are so many grammatical errors, I don't know where to start. is this an example of written singlish?

But at least I am not from an english speaking country and write bad english..haha..I never claim my english is good..but on the other hand, you do that to others without first looking at yourself...

[stalingrad]

But at least I am not from an english speaking country and write bad english..haha..I never claim my english is good..but on the other hand, you do that to others without first looking at yourself...

a few spelling errors don't matter. at least I know my grammar.

[Avatar]

a few spelling errors don't matter. at least I know my grammar.

Allow me to correct for you again. Hello...you are from english speaking country and you are here to spread your spelling errors to us???

"A few spelling errors don't matter. At least I know my grammar."

[Regulators]

Are you even familiar with the education system in Singapore schools? Our kids do not rote learn and we do not just emphasise on Maths and languages. I would suggest you take a tour of the MOE website at www.moe.edu.sg and familiarise yourself with the academic curriculum and co-curricular activities before you embarrass yourself further. Regarding suicide, are you referring to Japan or Singapore? I think you have it all mixed up pal...

You think the rote learning used in local schools is better? you think that weighing down kids with school bags of 20kg is normal? you think that asking a kid to learn just math and languages is the best way to start their young life? You think that trapping young kids in cram schools called tuition centers is healthy? You think that the high suicide and depression rates for singaporean kids are a good thing?

As for your comments about achievers, let's see who can achieve more? who have more creativity? How many international brand names and entrepreneurs are singaporean? Singapore works hard, that is true. but they have zero creativity and entrepreneurship. that is all the result of the school system that is entirely based on the old, Chinese philosophy about how kids should be educated, which is work work work, but no room for creativity.

[stalingrad]

Are you even familiar with the education system in Singapore schools? Our kids do not rote learn and we do not just emphasise on Maths and languages. I would suggest you take a tour of the MOE website at www.moe.edu.sg and familiarise yourself with the academic curriculum and co-curricular activities before you embarrass yourself further. Regarding suicide, are you referring to Japan or Singapore? I think you have it all mixed up pal...

"emphasise on Maths and languages"? how many grammatical errors are in just 5 words? I rest my case.

[stalingrad]

the correct way of saying it "emphasize math and languages." haha, that is the result of attending local schools.

[Regulators]

Let me test you:

Fill in the blanks with the correct grammatical form.

(1) The crowd ____________________ by the time the police arrives. (disperse)

(2) Everybody except John ___________________ by the teacher in the hall when the principal walked in. (lecture)

a few spelling errors don't matter. at least I know my grammar.

[stalingrad]

Not going to play your silly game. I can hear and see what is happening at local schools. most kids in schools cannot say school, they say "skoo." they "request for" something when they request something. they "emphasize on" something when they emphasize something. the list goes on and on.

That is just grammar. don't get me started on pronunciations.

[Regulators]

You are correcting a correct English usage with a flawed one pal. The word 'emphasise' is followed by a preposition and we do not spell the word with a 'z', it is spelled with an 's'. Please go back to school and relearn your grammar.

the correct way of saying it "emphasize math and languages." haha, that is the result of attending local schools.

[stalingrad]

You are correcting a correct English usage with a flawed one pal. The word 'emphasise' is followed by a preposition and we do not spell the word with a 'z', it is spelled with an 's'. Please go back to school and relearn your grammar.

haha, what a laugh. how many people in the world say "emphasize on"? only you singaporeans.

Can't blame you. You talk to each other in "english" and gradually errors get perpetuated, and now even the teachers in schools say "emphasize on" and "request for." to break with past, you need teachers that are properly trained, not those ulu teachers, that are locally trained.

[Regulators]

I don't think you even know your grammar, not that you do not want to play the game. If you regard English as your native language, why can't you answer two simple questions?

Not going to play your silly game. I can hear and see what is happening at local schools. most kids in schools cannot say school, they say "skoo." they "request for" something when they request something. they "emphasize on" something when they emphasize something. the list goes on and on.

That is just grammar. don't get me started on pronunciations.

[gfoo]

haha, what a laugh. how many people in the world say "emphasize on"? only you singaporeans.

who are you to generalize and criticize 'us singaporeans'? how kids speak, behave and carry themselves is all about upbringing - with home environments playing a big part. but so what if they speak singlish? does that make anyone less respectable? the scions of some of the oldest money in singapore speak singlish interspersed with hokkien. surely you're not that myopic?

so please stop your nonsense in a property forum and let's keep conversations here relevant. any person living in a mass market condo and who tried to get his kids into a Tier 2 chinese school but failed hardly has the moral or social authority to lambast us singaporeans, or to teach us to speak 'right'

[Regulators]

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haha, what a laugh. how many people in the world say "emphasize on"? only you singaporeans.

Can't blame you. You talk to each other in "english" and gradually errors get perpetuated, and now even the teachers in schools say "emphasize on" and "request for." to break with past, you need teachers that are properly trained, not those ulu teachers, that are locally trained.

[Regulators]

Another one:

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I got plenty more examples, but I am rushing for work. If you want me to give you more grammar lessons, you got to pay me...

[stalingrad]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/emphasize

visit this site, and you will find out how to use the word emphasize. no need quote me any wrong ways of using the word.

[stalingrad]

who are you to generalize and criticize 'us singaporeans'? how kids speak, behave and carry themselves is all about upbringing - with home environments playing a big part. but so what if they speak singlish? does that make anyone less respectable? the scions of some of the oldest money in singapore speak singlish interspersed with hokkien. surely you're not that myopic?

so please stop your nonsense in a property forum and let's keep conversations here relevant. any person living in a mass market condo and who tried to get his kids into a Tier 2 chinese school but failed hardly has the moral or social authority to lambast us singaporeans, or to teach us to speak 'right'

you got it all mixed up. I don't want my kids to be rich. I want my kids to grow up healthy, to not be money driven, to be gracious and graceful, to give seats to the vulnerable, and to make way for others. but most of all, I want my kids to be accepted by their peers back home.

[xebay11]

you got it all mixed up. I don't want my kids to be rich. I want my kids to grow up healthy, to not be money driven, to be gracious and graceful, to give seats to the vulnerable, and to make way for others. but most of all, I want my kids to be accepted by their peers back home.

Looks like you are doing a really bad job of bringing up your children. You should show them, by example, gracious and graceful (?) behavior, and start by learning how to be accepted by your peers here on this very forum.

Your children would look at you in utter shame if they knew what you are posting here and how you diss your host country, put down other developments, laugh at people's linguistic and academic capability. All the while staying and earning your next meal here, they must be thinking their father is a real loser.

Sometimes I wonder are you for real or part of the "Just for Laughs Gags" Asia team?

Sorry Proud Owner, I was really controlling myself.

[stalingrad]

Looks like you are doing a really bad job of bringing up your children. You should show them, by example, gracious and graceful (?) behavior, and start by learning how to be accepted by your peers here on this very forum.

Your children would look at you in utter shame if they knew what you are posting here and how you diss your host country, put down other developments, laugh at people's linguistic and academic capability. All the while staying and earning your next meal here, they must be thinking their father is a real loser.

Sometimes I wonder are you for real or part of the "Just for Laughs Gags" Asia team?

Sorry Proud Owner, I was really controlling myself.

You are controlling yourself? Geez, I wonder what you would say when you are not controlling yourself. proud owner is not stupid, he can see you are your usual self, obnoxious and loudmouth. You need another prescription to calm yourself down.

but how come you refuse to tell me where you are from. ashamed?

[gfoo]

you got it all mixed up. I don't want my kids to be rich. I want my kids to grow up healthy, to not be money driven, to be gracious and graceful, to give seats to the vulnerable, and to make way for others. but most of all, I want my kids to be accepted by their peers back home.

all solid and rational choices, but dun diss us singaporeans mah. that's not very nice...

[Property_Owner]

when will these stop? We here to share property discussion.