Carabelle (D5, Freehold, Sim Lian)

[teddybear]

Surely there are advantages of Cube 8 vs Carabelle (since transacted prices in same period of $1300 psf vs <$900 psf is already telling us something and waiting for us to dig out):
1) Walking distance to Novena MRT (about 1 km).
2) Walking distance to 3 shopping malls (Novena Square + Velocity, Square 2, United Square).
3) 2 MRT stations from Orchard MRT station and Orchard shopping belt.
4) 3 km from Orchard MRT station and Orchard shopping belt or 5 mins by driving.

Can Carabelle beat that? Oh my gosh! How to compare?
If the West like IMM or Jurong Point is comparable to Orchard Road, then the Govt should hold National Day Celebration in the West, retailers should have a West Road to put up fanciful decorations for festive seasons like Christmas, and the West will be the NEW CCR! (Then Orchard and surrounding areas become OCR But before they can achieve that, they will have to shift all the heavy industries in the West and Jurong Island to the North or East first).

I am not saying that there are advantages to living in carabelle. I am saying there are no disadvantages living in carabelle vs. cube 8. In that case, what is the point paying 1,300psf for cube 8 instead of paying 900psf for carabelle, for for that matter, botannia or even hundred trees? plus, we have a huge pool that both me and wife love so much.

[stalingrad]

Surely there are advantages of Cube 8 vs Carabelle (since transacted prices in same period of $1300 psf vs <$900 psf is already telling us something and waiting for us to dig out):
1) Walking distance to Novena MRT (about 1 km).
2) Walking distance to 3 shopping malls (Novena Square + Velocity, Square 2, United Square).
3) 2 MRT stations from Orchard MRT station and Orchard shopping belt.
4) 3 km from Orchard MRT station and Orchard shopping belt or 5 mins by driving.

Can Carabelle beat that? Oh my gosh! How to compare?
If the West like IMM or Jurong Point is comparable to Orchard Road, then the Govt should hold National Day Celebration in the West, retailers should have a West Road to put up fanciful decorations for festive seasons like Christmas, and the West will be the NEW CCR! (Then Orchard and surrounding areas become OCR But before they can achieve that, they will have to shift all the heavy industries in the West and Jurong Island to the North or East first).

You call those walking distances? what are you? an ostrich, horse or giraffe?

[jozz91]

beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder... every development has its pros n cons.

I have a very disgusting, ugly, noisy colleague whom everyone detests. Guess what, someone actually loves her and they got married not too long ago

There are 300 over units in Carabelle, surely 300 families cant be wrong rite, I dont see them selling their houses desperately . In fact, the neighbours whom I spoke to, including myself, loves Carabelle.

Of course, it's not perfect. One thing I cant stand is that the management doesnt allow residents to use hose to wash cars although there are easily 10 washing points.

Most of the pros n cons have been brought up by Stalingrad, Avatar and others.

Just want to mention that I actually like the location, peacefulness of Carabelle. (my unit rests in a tranquil corner of the development).
It's only 3 short bus stops away from Clementi MRT station or 1 bus stop away from Clementi town if you alight at Blk 431 along AYE.
I tried all these when I sent my car for repair. Seriously, there is no need for feeder bus.

In front of Carabelle is Hong Leong Gardens Shopping Centre, many may feel that this is a forsaken ghost town but it actually serves the residents around there very well.
There are 4-5 very restaurants. The jap ones are especially good, less than 10bucks can get you a very nice jap meal.
There is also a provision shop that sells stuff at a reasonable price.
Not forgetting the chocolate shop that sells yummy, sugar free chocolate.

When I craves for sinful roti prata or fried kway tiao, I will take a 10min stroll to Aye Rajah Market. The food there is nice n cheap. Besides, the stall owners at the market are very friendly, we get vegetables, fish there every week.

Alternatively, a short drive can bring me to Clementi, West Coast or Teban Gardens market.

West Coast Recreation Centre is 2 bus stops or a few minutes drive away. It's great place for pool players and bowlers. Our trips there are usually followed by Jack's Place. Haha.

My kid loves West Coast Park : macdonalds, gigantic playground and a great spot to fly kites. I actually see my neighbours jog there.

Coming home from anywhere is smooth as long as we take AYE or PIE, the entrance is conveniently located at the AYE exit.

There are of course other reasons why people buy Carabelle, sons studying in Nan Hua, working nearby, parents living nearby, etc etc etc.

Let's just discuss these in peace and hope the information can be useful to others who are considering an unit nearby

Lastly, not sure if there is pro or con, the wind there is strong and never ending....

[stalingrad]

Hi,jozz, good post. don't forget that we are also within a walking distance of an MRT station. since we are only 1km from clementi MRT, we are within a walking distance based on how walking distance is defined by teddybear. but franky, I am too old to walk 1km, unlike him. I prefer to drive my old toyota.

[teddybear]

1km is actually walking distance from Cube8 to Novena MRT station, and very direct also because just walk out of Cube8 and walk along Thomson Road straight and he/she will hit Novena MRT station, no need to climb overhead bridges or turn left and right and left and right etc. To some people, they can still walk so they buy Cube8. To me I can't so I don't buy there.

On the other hand, Carabelle is more than 1km in radius from Clementi MRT station. To actually walk to Clementi MRT station I also don't know how, may be walk along West Coast road, then turn left, then turn right, then turn left, walk along AYE, cross overhead bridge, turn left into Clementi then turn right then turn left ....(blah blah blah) - I got lost already. Actual walking distance including climbing overhead bridges may be 2km? If 1km is not walkable, 2km is like living in the mountain and cannot walk out?

Just to walk out to take a bus from Carabelle also have to walk so far away. Cube8 residents just need to walk out of their estate and there is already a bus stop beside there, just take almost any bus and they can arrive at Novena MRT station about 2 bus stops away. Try taking a public bus from Carabelle to Clementi MRT station? Before that, have to walk and turn left and right and left? Alight from bus still have to walk left and right and left...?

You call those walking distances? what are you? an ostrich, horse or giraffe?

[Property_Owner]

omg....comparing a D5 with D11? Faint

[xebay11]

If anything the Parc is much better located, cross the AYE and you are basically at Clementi Central.

[Avatar]

Sorry to Hijack, I don't think he will buy also. Anyway it is ultimately offer and acceptance, one party offers and the other party accepts, just like a marriage proposal. I'm sure you know things may be destined to fail from the very beginning. If you can find someone to buy from you at $1300 psf, we will all be happy for u.

Property prices is definitely over priced now.... can check on the prices after a major interest rate hike.... fools and their money is easily parted.

Certainly not! Like i said before, besides the two big balconies and poor quality of furnishing given by the developer, now knowing Stalingrad stays in this project really put me off...I wouldn't want to risk having a neighbour like him or even having him staying in the same project.

By reading his previous postings, you can see how shallow he is....

By the way, residents of Carabelle (including Jozz) whose kids is studying or going to study in Nanhua Pri, Stalingrad looks down on Nanhua Primary school if you happen to browse through his previous postings. Good luck if you have such neighbour staying next to you. But if you are Angmoh, I guess he will kiss your butt..

[Avatar]

Posted under this thread on 19 June 2009

what a happy go luck type!! that is the spirit. hope you have no kids that will take part in PI registration this year. I am beginning to worried about my oldest son. Can he get into Nanhua or not?

Posted under The Parc Thread on 22 Oct 2009

I agree with you only heartlanders will like to send their kids to nanhua, where neither the teachers nor the students speak any english. We live very close to nanhua, but we would never send our kids to nanhua.

I think he is a hypocrite....likely is that his son couldn't get into NanHua...

[jitkiat]

likely is that his son couldn't get in NanHua...

China is sure to become world's superpower by 2020. Proficiency in Chinese is an asset. You see our Mr Lee is so anxious that our English speaking kids do not like Chinese. And our legendary investor Jim Rogers can second that.

Yes, I am sending my kid to a SAP school - Higher Chinese standard in Singapore primary school is considered very low compared to standard in Taiwan, China or even Malaysia.

[stalingrad]

Posted under this thread on 19 June 2009


Posted under The Parc Thread on 22 Oct 2009


I think he is a hypocrite....likely is that his son couldn't get into NanHua...

Yes, we couldn't get into nanhua because we are foreigners living in Singapore.

[stalingrad]

1km is actually walking distance from Cube8 to Novena MRT station, and very direct also because just walk out of Cube8 and walk along Thomson Road straight and he/she will hit Novena MRT station, no need to climb overhead bridges or turn left and right and left and right etc. To some people, they can still walk so they buy Cube8. To me I can't so I don't buy there.

On the other hand, Carabelle is more than 1km in radius from Clementi MRT station. To actually walk to Clementi MRT station I also don't know how, may be walk along West Coast road, then turn left, then turn right, then turn left, walk along AYE, cross overhead bridge, turn left into Clementi then turn right then turn left ....(blah blah blah) - I got lost already. Actual walking distance including climbing overhead bridges may be 2km? If 1km is not walkable, 2km is like living in the mountain and cannot walk out?

Just to walk out to take a bus from Carabelle also have to walk so far away. Cube8 residents just need to walk out of their estate and there is already a bus stop beside there, just take almost any bus and they can arrive at Novena MRT station about 2 bus stops away. Try taking a public bus from Carabelle to Clementi MRT station? Before that, have to walk and turn left and right and left? Alight from bus still have to walk left and right and left...?

Have you heard about overhead bridges? There is one next to carabelle across AYE. Just cross it and it's smooth sailing to clementi MRT. haha, talk about obnoxious and ignorant, all rolled into one.

[xebay11]

Yes, we couldn't get into nanhua because we are foreigners living in Singapore.

That is no excuse to slag off Nan Hua as a school for neighbourhood kids.

So I suppose your child(ren) are enrolled in which International School?

[Avatar]

Yes, we couldn't get into nanhua because we are foreigners living in Singapore.

I think you are not only hypocrite but a liar... Basically you lost all your credibility in whatever rubbish came out from your mouth...

You are wrong. both carabelle and botannia are crawling with expats. We live in Carabelle, and both our neighbors are from UK. On our floor, we the the only locals.

When we look out from our balcony, we see tons of blondes with blue eyes sunbathing on their balconies. I don't think these are owners-occupiers. Basically, I estimate only 30% of residents in these area are locals.

most of these ang mohs work in fusionpolis and bipolis. our neighbors include one scientist, one therapist, and one special school teacher. all from UK.

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RG appeals to mainly expats, so it is mostly owned by investors/speculators. My wife once said that she would not live there, as there are too many foreigners hanging around there drunk and looking for cheap thrills.

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[stalingrad]

I think you are not only hypocrite but a liar... Basically you lost all your credibility in whatever rubbish came out from your mouth...



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We are PRs, and that made us more local than our neighbors. BTW, don't be so quick to accuse people. relax, take a deep breath and just let your negative thoughts go away. if you can do that, you will be more loved by people around you.

[stalingrad]

That is no excuse to slag off Nan Hua as a school for neighbourhood kids.

So I suppose your child(ren) are enrolled in which International School?

did not slag off anyone. just did not want my kids to go to nanhua and end up sounding like ris low.

yes, they are in an international school, which costs me an arm and a leg. but it is all worth it, because my kids will be more easily reintegrated back to the mainstream when they go back.

[xebay11]

did not slag off anyone. just did not want my kids to go to nanhua and end up sounding like ris low.

yes, they are in an international school, which costs me an arm and a leg. but it is all worth it, because my kids will be more easily reintegrated back to the mainstream when they go back.

Go back where?

[Douk]

Go back where?

malaysia...

[sleek]

So now PRs call themselves Locals? Or only if it benefits them?

[stalingrad]

malaysia...

whatever you say. how typical of singaporeans, petty, jealous and obnoxious. I have yet to see one gracious and graceful singaporean after my long stay here.

[teddybear]

Smooth sailing walk to MRT station vs Cube8? Can don't need to cross overhead bridges (old people legs weak cannot climb stairs up and down) and just walk straight from the gate of Carabelle without requiring to turn left and right and left to reach outside of the MRT station? (just like Cube8). How long it takes?

Have you heard about overhead bridges? There is one next to carabelle across AYE. Just cross it and it's smooth sailing to clementi MRT. haha, talk about obnoxious and ignorant, all rolled into one.

[xebay11]

whatever you say. how typical of singaporeans, petty, jealous and obnoxious. I have yet to see one gracious and graceful singaporean after my long stay here.

Then why on earth stay here so long? You are welcome to leave by all means, I will be the first to volunteer sending you home and doing Singapore a great favour. Can't say I am not gracious or graceful yeah? LOL

And if you really are Malaysian, I find it hard to believe your child is in an International School, cause I don't see how an International School in Singapore will help your kid adjust to backwater Malaysian life.

[Douk]

whatever you say. how typical of singaporeans, petty, jealous and obnoxious. I have yet to see one gracious and graceful singaporean after my long stay here.

what's wrong being a malaysian? there are many malaysian owning properties in prime district...

[sleek]

Then why on earth stay here so long? You are welcome to leave by all means, I will be the first to volunteer sending you home and doing Singapore a great favour. Can't say I am not gracious or graceful yeah? LOL

And if you really are Malaysian, I find it hard to believe your child is in an International School, cause I don't see how an International School in Singapore will help your kid adjust to backwater Malaysian life.

Sounds more South Asian, then our ASEAN neighbours.

[xebay11]

Sounds more South Asian, then our ASEAN neighbours.

I find him strangely silent on his nationality like as if he is ASHAMED of it.

He mentions Chinese restaurants in IMM and nearly put his child in Nan Hua so may not be South Asian.

[stalingrad]

Smooth sailing walk to MRT station vs Cube8? Can don't need to cross overhead bridges (old people legs weak cannot climb stairs up and down) and just walk straight from the gate of Carabelle without requiring to turn left and right and left to reach outside of the MRT station? (just like Cube8). How long it takes?

if you cannot even walk up and down an overhead bridge, you should check yourself into a nursing home, rather than gamble in real estate. I tried once, 12 minutes.

[proud owner]

I find him strangely silent on his nationality like as if he is ASHAMED of it.

He mentions Chinese restaurants in IMM and nearly put his child in Nan Hua so may not be South Asian.

people

pls stop this ... thanks

if you think Cube is good ... then buy
if you think carabelle is not good ..then dont buy

we are here to gain knowledge and info .. pros and cons, good and bad of each and every project ..

so lets comment based on ones opinion .. not on individual ..

kum sia xie xie thank you
gracie danke schon tacks myckt
terima kasih

[xebay11]

what's wrong being a malaysian? there are many malaysian owning properties in prime district...

Inferiority complex? Ironic that if he finds Singaporeans so obnoxious and yet he still needs to find a job here and even buys a Condo here, since he is a foreigner I think he should accord his host country and hosts with more respect. Lest when he calls people obnoxious so loosely, four other fingers are pointing back at himself.

I will never go to a foreign country and diss other people's language, style or schools.

[stalingrad]

I find him strangely silent on his nationality like as if he is ASHAMED of it.

He mentions Chinese restaurants in IMM and nearly put his child in Nan Hua so may not be South Asian.

yes, I am ashamed. I am from the worst country on earth. I speak the worst gibberish and my home was built with mud with a thatched roof. and my home was hit by cyclones day in and day out, while my goats and camels shiver in the drenching rain, while the tornadoes tore apart the woodsheds that my children, wrapped in rags and licking every drop of buckwheat porridge off the floor, cried for misfortunes their parents brought them to.

that is why we moved to your lovely country. happy now?

[stalingrad]

Inferiority complex? Ironic that if he finds Singaporeans so obnoxious and yet he still needs to find a job here and even buys a Condo here, since he is a foreigner I think he should accord his host country and hosts with more respect. Lest when he calls people obnoxious so loosely, four other fingers are pointing back at himself.

I will never go to a foreign country and diss other people's language, style or schools.

Did I diss your language, style or schools? Can't a person reserve the right to make his children speak english with home accent rather than singapore accent, which would make it difficult for them to be reintegrated back into the society that they belong? talk about obnoxious and loudmouth.