Try taking the MRT from Boon Lay to town. 20km away only. How long does it take? Please, this is Singapore. 42km across from East to West. 700 sq km area. It's a joke to say it's far from places. It's far if the transportation is inefficient even if you are staying 2km away. I think more people are far more frustrated staying in the North and North East areas where traffic is not only worse, the high ERP charges are not easing the traffic congestions.
what is the whole idea of linking boon lay mrt to tuas, can u use ur brains or not? if it is not for the thousands of factory workers, then for who? tourists going there to shop or going their for a tour? jurong west already has an existing industrial base. if you take a drive towards aye exit near jurong point, the left and right are lined up with factories. more factories will be built there and in tuas to boost production output and the mrt line to tuas is mainly to commute the workers who need a convenient mode of transport to and from home, with most staying in jurong. there is nothing to argue about. as for commercial hub, the hub will be catered to not just locals, as the govt has foreseen that since thousands of foreign workers will make jurong their home in future, having more business entities there will be lucrative. you think the govt is so crazy as to build some tang dynasty which was a flop. they want business from foreigners and foreign workers so they are calling it a commercial hub....please think before you speak next time...
Originally Posted by Yes it's different
geylang and guillemard is just a difference of one street, but the price difference is 400psf. The HDB flats in jurong and bt batok also have a vast difference in pricing (can buy a jurong 5 rm with the price of a 4 rm in bukit batok). Difference in location by by 100m or 1km could spell a vast difference in prices of pty and although singapore is small, we must understand that pty prices are very sensitive to location, however small the distance.
Going by your theory, train stations that are 3 - 4 stops away from places teeming with foreign workers are undesirable.
IN that case, all the train stops from Aljunied to redhill to somerset all worthless as they are near to bugis where throngs of foreign workers gather each weekend.
This is SIngapore for God's sake. It is a TINY PUNY ISLAND and
you are making reasons:
1. Boon Lay Terminal station lousy.
2. Boon Lay Not terminal station also lousy.
3. Boon Lay got factory workers lousy.
4. Centris next to MRT 99 years lousy.
All your points just highlight how biased you are and there is simply
no use reasoning with you.
There are so many places in Singapore that are ALSO 99 years and u dun complain about them. MRT are packed throughout the island and you dun complain about them. Pasir Ris is terminal station next to airport u also dun complain. There are so many other neighbourhoods that are teeming with foreign workers and u dun complain about them. Dunno why u keep complaining about centris.
Please read the Masterplan thoroughly. Yes, the govt is planning to attract tourist to Jurong. Commerical hub purpose is to decentralise the congestion in town currently. More factories coming up? Where you get the news? More offices coming up that's true. Don't twist the truth to your imagination.
What's wrong with foreign workers?
There are tons of richer foreign workers that are based in Jurong.
Multibillions pharmaceutical companies employees etc are there.
NTU lecturers etc are there too.
Or are u still staying in your own myopic world where u think only
SIngaporeans are rich?
Face the fact, foreign workers will invade many parts of Singapore.
Every 1 in 4 ppl in SIngapore now IS a foreigner.
Singapore is no longer an industrial country.
Low end factories are being phased out.
We are losing all these competitiveness to countries like China etc.
Have you been to the new "factories"?
There are high-tech buildings now housing sophisticated machines and employing more skilled workers.
The influx of foreign workers now is due to the heavy construction of facilities which when completed will see a reduction in construction workers and more information workers.
These "factory" workers may very well earn more than you.
Who cares whether the MRT trains are packed etc or not?
We dun even need to use the trains or public transport to get to
1. Library
2. NTUC Hypermart
3. 24 hr food outlets
4. SAFRA clubhouse
5. Banks etc..
What we need are all within 5 minutes walking distance.
If even if we do, it is just a lift away to the MRT and Bus interchange.
And too bad if you need to take a train during PEAK hours, it is crowded EVERYWHERE in singapore during that time so it makes no difference.
At least time is saved not having to take a feeder bus to reach the interchange and MRT.
Am staying in Central now but had to squeeze for feeder bus to interchange sometimes. The wait and travelling time to reach the interchange is equivalent to 10 MRT stops! About 20 minutes or so!
That is why i rather stay next to BoonLay MRT even though the location to city is far since i dun travel to city often.
I agree it has bad location but it has one of the best locality.
Everything u need is just a lift away.
Of course it is not for ppl who likes going to the city.
the dif is jurong is an industrial town n all the other places u mentiond r nt. We are talkng bout really high concentratn of factory workers in time to come. With so much land in punggol, why isnt the govt making it an industrial town, unlike jurong. There is even a prison there in place in case crime rate rises in jurong. The govt has everythng set to make jurong a major hub for factory workers and blue collar foreigners. Rich foreign expats will live in bt timah or d9 10 n 11, not jurong.
Please lah, ask you so many times where you get the news of more factories in time to come and you can't answer, but just keep insisting that's going to happen. It's all in your mind. The only reliable information on the future here is nothing more than the Masterplan. Why you can't find anything about factories in there???
This may be true in the past but had been changing rapidly this few years.
There is a prison is changi, does it mean that the crime rates are rising in Changi? Tan Tock Seng is in Dhobby Ghaut, does that mean the people staying there are less healthy and will get sick frequently?
As such, your above point is invalid.
Take a look at rental yields in the West and u will realise it is appreciating faster. Perhaps you think the WHOLE jurong is industrial but the heavy industry are actually located in JURONG ISLAND.
And the govt is NOT making Jurong an industrial town. Where did you even get that idea? PLEASE QUOTE YOUR SOURCE FOR US CLEARLY RATHER THAN SAYING IT IS FROM URA INSIDER.
It is transforming it from industrial town to commercial hub.
Stop looking at things in the past. Else Singapore river is just a stinking river for idiots. Singapore managed to change within decades and the masterplan 2008 is OUT FOR EVERYONE to see that they are changing Jurong into COMMERCIAL HUB as well as locating TOURIST attractions at Jurong Lake.
So please support your arguments with facts, not with your own points as ALL OF US know how biased you are against this area.
Anyway, it is OK for you to hate centris and Jurong.
It's no loss to us AT ALL.
go to jtc corp website n look under industrial parks. There is the entire map of singapore with 80% of the all green areas (labeled as industrial estates) in jurong. U guys are living in an industrial town without realising it. no point venting ur frustratns at me coz i dont cntrol jtc. Ask them if they have greater plans for industrial expansion in jurong? Go read it for yourself...hahaha
go to jtc corp website n look under industrial parks. There is the entire map of singapore with 80% of the all green areas (labeled as industrial estates) in jurong. U guys are living in an industrial town without realising it. no point venting ur frustratns at me coz i dont cntrol jtc. Ask them if they have greater plans for industrial expansion in jurong? Go read it for yourself...hahaha
There is no end to this stupid subject. Please stop it.
how can it be stupid? All these industries in jurong help to improve the economy of singapore n up our gdp n u call that stupid? We need to keep the industries in jurong thriving for e gd of our economy. If our econ improves, isnt it better for the pty mkt as well?
Today's headlines in The Straits Times: "Private Home Prices - First Fall in 4 1/2 Years". Any impact on Centris' prices?
Ask you where is the news of more factories to come and you just tell us the land that JTC owns? There is no announcement of any future plans for land sales for manufacturing at all from JTC. But govt already say Jurong is going to become the largest commercial hub in the redevelopment plans for Jurong area. If you look at the Govt Land Sales at JTC website, what do you see? Really there's no future plan there. JTC is only serving the strategic plan of the govt.
Anyway, please don't give the impression that JTC is still selling land just for the low end factories of the 60s. It is the knowledge-based industries like bio-medical sciences and clean energy research we are seeing now. In fact, the JTC land use has move towards research purposes and not like the kind of primary manufacturing seen in the 60s. JTC builds up facilities and land clusters like international business parks, logistics parks, technopreneur parks, etc and then lease them out as a package. That is what they do with the land they own and not just building factories and factories alone. Industrial land is only an inherited legacy, it doesn't mean the land is only meant for manufacturing industries like the 60s-80s. Fact is Singapore has moved on to more service based industries and JTC is catering to the change. You need to be more wholesome in your understanding of the term "industrial".
Did you guys look at the new high tech offices and buildings
they have built and are building now?
Gone are the days of low rise factories. In its place are those
high end all in one business hubs. If some people here CAN'T differentiate
between the PRESENT and the PAST, why waste our breathe explaining to him
when u know he is BIASED right from the start? He probably thinks the police still wear shorts.
I sure dun mind these offices around and Jurong being the new commercial hub as stated in the masterplan 2008. The employed skilled workers who probably earn much more than him will ensure good rental demand for Centris.
If things work out, Jurong east/west will be transformed into an integrated hub incorporating commercial, R&D and high tech hub supported by university research town and residential area. The low tech stuff will be phased out. Jurong island and Tuas reclamation areas will be expanded for higher value investment heavy industries. Much of it is already happening.
However, no matter how high tech, how high value.... Jurong will forever "tagged" the industrial cowboy town with serangoon gardens rushing over themshelves with suggestions to put more FW dorm here :-p
It always amazes me how people pays lots of $$$ for their lovely home in pungol, sengkang, tampines.... while get stucked on AYE/PIE commuting more than >1hr to their workspaces in industrial town Jurong.
Regards
those green zones on the map are demarcated for industrial estates. Jtc has most of its industrial land in jurong waiting to have more factories sitting on them.
Again, you are just insisting on your own imagination. Where is your basis? Just based on those green color areas? Haha. Those are JTC owned land, but the meaning of industrial use has changed over the last 20 years already. Read my post and you still can't get it. The world can see you are just plain biased against Centris and Jurong.
Hihi W13ng, thanks a lot for sharing! Like the 4 bedroom units a lot! Anyone holding on to 4 bedroom units? Don't know about you guys...but I like the feeling of looking out bay windows...haha.
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Hi Gem
indeed I love the 4 bedrooms alot too, very huge and spacious unit, it should be a good choice if you have 3 generations living together, or you have many kids!
No point arguing with this guy. Everything good about Centris he will just think of 101 retarded reasons to make it a bad place. From my point of view he's either an idiot living in his own stupidity world or an obstinate mule who just cannot accept the fact that he didnt make the correct choice to get Centris which turn out to be a GEM!
Do you know that the green areas include Chinese Garden, Japanese Garden which ARE ALSO UNDER JTC?
Just because the land in under JTC DOES NOT mean it will be converted into factories.
jurong is industrial town, nothing to be tee kee about. Hitech or nt, the place is marked for industrial expansion, isnt it obvious? i drive past factories everytime i cme frm aye to jurong pt n they r walkng distance frm centris, wat is there to be tee kee? I thot u guys shud be used to e presence of factories by now? Living in factory hub still want to paint nice picture of shenton way like office buildings n commercial hub for tourists. I thk some of ur comments make people puke...
ALL u centris owner, go to POSB on Sat and Sunday evening and line up with everyone to draw cash , think about it , look at the surrounding , how pack it is and how people look at u when u draw monies, on top of that , if there is more development coming up , there will be more workers coming to west , even serangoon gardens are not spared n u still think likewise? i don understand all yr logic, workers will be there and more will come, they are buying Hdbs in west and leisure will also be crowd at JP. Let yr primary school kid transit at JP interchange , are u not worried? not sure what happen. I am not against them , but remember they don know our law , they are build and program from their home town and they come here they will bring their mentality here, thats the issue not about their color. Although if you hv a change get 5 of them in a cabin and observe, they tend to raise their hands to hold the top of the balancing bar (not sure why may be home country train are built that way) and across all the way to JP see if u can tolerate the odour..
good luck
what is worse is that these factory workers like to gather together and orgle at people walking by. the worst part is that even if they were to commit crime, you will have one hack of a difficulty even identifying them as an eye-witness coz they all look the same. i have a relative living in the west and saw a tanned man (resembling a foreign worker) trying to open her corridor window once and that gave her hell of a fright. she made a police report but has hack of a difficulty even trying to describe the person as he looks like any typical ******(can't mention race) on the street. She and her children sometimes feel this uneasiness walking past Jurong point as there will be groups of workers orgling at them as they walk past.
kanni naobu chao chee by...sour grape who cant fukin afford a private!
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