The Stellar

[stalingrad]

No true. It had happen already. There is one unit @ Clementiwoods sold in dec less than 600psf!
Those sellers good luck

I passed by the stellar site almost daily. I like how the buildings look. They look much better than varsity park. But to be fair, the surroundings are just too noisy and dirty, and for the sake of my kids' health, I would not consider a unit there. I wouldn't want my kids to develop asthma from breathing all the soot and diesel fumes from passing lorries. Perhaps the inner most units would offer a less polluted and less noisy living space. but i would pay only 500 psf for those units. the market is crashing you know!!!

[code01]

One north goin for $7xxpsf yet no one is picking up Do ur noticed it is the non TOP project whose price are dropping more than TOP project...

[rramesh]

Having seen the Stellar and the neighbouring Varsity Park these are my comments on the Stellar.

Positives

- Unlike VP, The Stellar is freehold
- Good location but the proposed flyover may cause some concerns to units facing Clementi Rd
- Workmanship generally good as both developments were built by Woh Hup
- Carpark is adequate

Negatives

- All units have very small rooms
- Units are very close to one another. In fact some of the units are abutting and one can cross over from one's balcony to the neighbour's bedroom
- NO and I repeat there is NO clubhouse
- Quality of fittings poor

Between the 2 developments, clearly Varsity Park has the better rental prospects as the facilities are extensive

[stalingrad]

Agreed that the prospect for the stellar is not very good. Passed by it everyone, and have been amazed how close most of the stacks are to one another.

I guess it would be easy for a burglar to "clean up" more than one unit at a time. He would just have to crawl from one balcony to another.

Diesel fume is another problem. Clementi road is now crawling with more lorries and container trucks than AYE.

[Mabel]

A unit transacted at 503 psf under a contract in December 2008 as it's shown in today's BT. Even during launch, I don't recall any unit, however big or small, transacted at this price.

[jsh]

A unit transacted at 503 psf under a contract in December 2008 as it's shown in today's BT. Even during launch, I don't recall any unit, however big or small, transacted at this price.

please read the article in condosing on " when a price fall isn't a price fall" I am utterly shocked that there's such a thing as duplicate caveats which can mislead completely the actual price transacted by as much as 50%.

So all the sellers out there , be very careful about rogue agents who may be out to mislead you with such caveats in order to secure low prices for their clients.

[ST88]

I think this fall is only peculiar to Stellar. A lot of worried owners want to sell their units due to the proposed flyover next to it.

There are flyovers all over Singapore. i do not think it is a big deal.

[psiah]

I wonder why lota ppl talking about the clementi road flyover. the ura plan does not have anything on it. pls enlighten me. tks.

[tengcc]

I wonder why lota ppl talking about the clementi road flyover. the ura plan does not have anything on it. pls enlighten me. tks.

In the longer term, ie. 2020, the port will be relocated to Tuas. Very much depend on how long you want to stay vested in this area.

If NUS continues to expand, I will not be surprised the whole plot of land where Stellar and VP is sitting will be something that NUS will be eyeing at in the future. ENBLOC???

[stalingrad]

I wonder why lota ppl talking about the clementi road flyover. the ura plan does not have anything on it. pls enlighten me. tks.

It was reported in Straights Times one year ago, and it will be a big one so that big container trucks and lorries can go straight into the port from Clementi road and west coast high way. This will worsen the air quality and noise problems at the stellar, not that these problems are not serious enough even without the flyover. recent transacted prices for the stellar are approaching 500 psf. pretty scary now, will they go below 500, who know? but it seems inevitable. The condo has many problems besides noise and pollution, one of which is because of the small land size, the blocks are very close to each other, you can see your neighbors' wives take a shower or change clothes. A horrible thought if you neighbors' wives are fat and ugly. haha!!

[Tweety]

It was reported in Straights Times one year ago, and it will be a big one so that big container trucks and lorries can go straight into the port from Clementi road and west coast high way. This will worsen the air quality and noise problems at the stellar, not that these problems are not serious enough even without the flyover. recent transacted prices for the stellar are approaching 500 psf. pretty scary now, will they go below 500, who know? but it seems inevitable. The condo has many problems besides noise and pollution, one of which is because of the small land size, the blocks are very close to each other, you can see your neighbors' wives take a shower or change clothes. A horrible thought if you neighbors' wives are fat and ugly. haha!!

I do agree that the blocks at Stellar are very close to each other but it is exaggerating to claim that you can see your neighbours' wives showering or changing clothes...This is ridiculous! Prices of Stellar and Varsity Park will never go below those of Carabelle or Infiniti and you can be sure of that. I can't see how the air or noise pollution can be anywhere as bad as those of the AYE...

[psiah]

i agree with stalingrad regarding how close the units are and he is not exaggerating. for some units, the bathrooms are facing each other and very close so basically.....

[Tweety]

i agree with stalingrad regarding how close the units are and he is not exaggerating. for some units, the bathrooms are facing each other and very close so basically.....

Agree too but not for the fact that you can see your neighbours in action in the bathroom no matter how close you are...I believe you are only seeing empty units now.

[stalingrad]

Agree too but not for the fact that you can see your neighbours in action in the bathroom no matter how close you are...I believe you are only seeing empty units now.

Tweey, don't quibble and you know what I meant. I was just making the point that it is uncomforable living in the stellar where your neighbors will be watching every move you make, and you can't escape that because the blocks are so close. Your neighbors can tell what you are eating tonight by taking a whiff of the air. That is how close the blocks are. I wouldn't live there even if it is selling less than $500 psf. I need my privacy.

As for Carabelle and the infiniti, you have a right to your opinions. Let's see who will be right. The Stellar in my view is not going to be a winner in the long run. It is just besieged by too many problems.

[Tweety]

Tweey, don't quibble and you know what I meant. I was just making the point that it is uncomforable living in the stellar where your neighbors will be watching every move you make, and you can't escape that because the blocks are so close. Your neighbors can tell what you are eating tonight by taking a whiff of the air. That is how close the blocks are. I wouldn't live there even if it is selling less than $500 psf. I need my privacy.

As for Carabelle and the infiniti, you have a right to your opinions. Let's see who will be right. The Stellar in my view is not going to be a winner in the long run. It is just besieged by too many problems.

You are right that everyone is entitled to their own opinion...Let the facts and figures speak for itself then.

[ST88]

A lot of projects in the area have units close to each other. Monterey Park and Botannia are such examples. Just put up curtains or blinds to solve the problem.

[proud owner]

i dont deny prices will fall .. everywhere in singapore ..esp orchard area ...

as for PP and westcoast area .. i think we should not compare stellar with VP , Clementiwoods, One North ... those are all leasehold 99 yrs ...

you can argue that one wont outlive the lease...but at the end of the day(your life) .. you know you still own it ..when its freehold .. the value of 99 yr project will fall more as it gets older ...

[stalingrad]

i dont deny prices will fall .. everywhere in singapore ..esp orchard area ...

as for PP and westcoast area .. i think we should not compare stellar with VP , Clementiwoods, One North ... those are all leasehold 99 yrs ...

you can argue that one wont outlive the lease...but at the end of the day(your life) .. you know you still own it ..when its freehold .. the value of 99 yr project will fall more as it gets older ...

But VP, CW, and ON don't have the pollution and noise problems that the stellar has, or at least not as serious. Also, these condos have a much land area than the stellar and don't have the privacy problem that Stellar has. The blocks at the stellar are so neatly packed together, the residents can see each other's moves very clearly. I hope you don't have the habit of doing sleasy things with your wife while leaving your curtains undrawn.

[proud owner]

hahah no no i dont have such habit ...

yes pollution will eventually be an issue ...

anyway i am staying at the opposite end .. nearer to kentridge ...south buona vista ...thats perfectly fresh air

[Tweety]

But VP, CW, and ON don't have the pollution and noise problems that the stellar has, or at least not as serious. Also, these condos have a much land area than the stellar and don't have the privacy problem that Stellar has. The blocks at the stellar are so neatly packed together, the residents can see each other's moves very clearly. I hope you don't have the habit of doing sleasy things with your wife while leaving your curtains undrawn.

Sure Stellar has its fair share of pollution and noise problems due to its location but so do VP, CW, BH, Carabelle or Infiniti...Which condo that is located near the port does not have this problem???? You are right though that Stellar doesn't have a bigger land space...For goodness sake, are you telling me that you can do sleazy stuffs with your wife in Carabelle without drawing your curtains? I don't see the need to post such extreme remarks about other condos which you seem to be so fond of..First about Stellar and then Parc and Botannia, I wonder whats next for you....No condo is perfect but I really don't see the need for some of these extreme remarks which unfortunately will not bring the price of Carabelle any higher.

[stalingrad]

Sure Stellar has its fair share of pollution and noise problems due to its location but so do VP, CW, BH, Carabelle or Infiniti...Which condo that is located near the port does not have this problem???? You are right though that Stellar doesn't have a bigger land space...For goodness sake, are you telling me that you can do sleazy stuffs with your wife in Carabelle without drawing your curtains? I don't see the need to post such extreme remarks about other condos which you seem to be so fond of..First about Stellar and then Parc and Botannia, I wonder whats next for you....No condo is perfect but I really don't see the need for some of these extreme remarks which unfortunately will not bring the price of Carabelle any higher.

thank you for tracking my every move and reading my every post. You are my biggest fan. but you must admit I am telling the truth. I pass by the stellar every day on my wife to work, my god, I just can't stand the noise and stench of diesel fume in your area. My god, how can you live in such a noisy and dirty place, with a long queue of diesel trucks waiting at the traffic lights, spewing carcinogens into your home?

[Tweety]

thank you for tracking my every move and reading my every post. You are my biggest fan. but you must admit I am telling the truth. I pass by the stellar every day on my wife to work, my god, I just can't stand the noise and stench of diesel fume in your area. My god, how can you live in such a noisy and dirty place, with a long queue of diesel trucks waiting at the traffic lights, spewing carcinogens into your home?

No worries...We are not living in a big city...Wherever you are, you will still inhale your so-called carcinogens and it is a fact. There are 162 owners in Stellar there so you don't have to worry about that. Thanks for your concerns though and remember again, the figures speak for itself at the end of the day.

[stalingrad]

No worries...We are not living in a big city...Wherever you are, you will still inhale your so-called carcinogens and it is a fact. There are 162 owners in Stellar there so you don't have to worry about that. Thanks for your concerns though and remember again, the figures speak for itself at the end of the day.

Now that is the spirit. I have no malice against your stellar residents. I don't wish you harm. Just like to comment on the pros and cons of each condo. I also like to poke holes in people's posts glorifying their little mouse traps.

call me a devil if you will.

[tengcc]

No worries...We are not living in a big city...Wherever you are, you will still inhale your so-called carcinogens and it is a fact. There are 162 owners in Stellar there so you don't have to worry about that. Thanks for your concerns though and remember again, the figures speak for itself at the end of the day.

Hi Tweety, I was told some of the ground level units have their private pool. Is that true?

thanks

[Mabel]

No worries...We are not living in a big city...Wherever you are, you will still inhale your so-called carcinogens and it is a fact. There are 162 owners in Stellar there so you don't have to worry about that. Thanks for your concerns though and remember again, the figures speak for itself at the end of the day.

ST has a nice big pool and a pretty entrance and inviting gym. I wonder though if it is really noisy and dusty for blks 12 (adjacent to the entrance and faces the 4-junction) and 10 (next to blk 12) and some other units by Clementi Road. Can the residents comment? What's the going psf now?

[Tweety]

Hi Tweety, I was told some of the ground level units have their private pool. Is that true?

thanks

Hi tengcc,

Ha! True and untrue...They do have their private pool but I wouldn't really call it a pool because it is so small that perhaps one can only take a dip in there...A tub may be more appropriate. Maintenance fees may be rather high because of the private pool but some residents do like it though.

Cheers.

[proud owner]

Hi tengcc,

Ha! True and untrue...They do have their private pool but I wouldn't really call it a pool because it is so small that perhaps one can only take a dip in there...A tub may be more appropriate. Maintenance fees may be rather high because of the private pool but some residents do like it though.

Cheers.

the maintenance is pretty high ... a friend of mine has a penthouse there ..due to the small number of units ..per share per unit is high ..he is paying some $510 a mth for maintenance for the penthouse

[Tweety]

the maintenance is pretty high ... a friend of mine has a penthouse there ..due to the small number of units ..per share per unit is high ..he is paying some $510 a mth for maintenance for the penthouse

Yes...I do agree with you...The maintenance is on the high side as compared to other nearby condo units.

[stalingrad]

the maintenance is pretty high ... a friend of mine has a penthouse there ..due to the small number of units ..per share per unit is high ..he is paying some $510 a mth for maintenance for the penthouse

the maintenance fee equals the rent of a HDB apartment. that is ironic because people buy condos to avoid paying the high rent. They are still paying a high rent after buying the stellar.

[stalingrad]

Hi tengcc,

Ha! True and untrue...They do have their private pool but I wouldn't really call it a pool because it is so small that perhaps one can only take a dip in there...A tub may be more appropriate. Maintenance fees may be rather high because of the private pool but some residents do like it though.

Cheers.

I saw a picture of the pool. it is about 3 meters by 3 meters. even if you raise fish in there, you would be accused of animal cruelty.