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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy38
    Doesn't seem so to me. CTE is really jam though.
    Hee hee. Those stay in AMK, Yio Chu Kang, Yishun die! die! Pay lots of ERP.

    Buy Dakota Residences. Near city. cheap! got MRT! Hee Hee

  2. #542
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    Quote Originally Posted by toaler
    Well. well.. the jam on ECP is one of the worst every morning and this is disgusting considering they charge $2.50 to let you creep your way through the ERP gantry
    We can only blame the government for the expensive ERP gantries.

    But honestly.... traffic wasn't that bad... I drive thr it from Simei to CBD around 8-815am... it's was ok. Though ERP charges are expensive.

    So DR offers a MRT alternative... to me is very good.

  3. #543
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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabe
    finally went to dakota to check out the showflat after all the hype.
    Shock shock horror horror.
    $1000psf for a location like that....
    i simply cannot understand y people are buying...
    Joke of the century..
    at the moment... 1000 psf is almost impossible to buy a freehold near Meyer... Tanjong Rhu. Seafront...Altos... going more than 1600 psf.

    1000 psf... may not even get you waterplace...Cot'd Azur.

    Agree... a tennis court would have been perfect.... but again... most new dunearn road condos which are really ex.. do not have tennis courts at all. I see only the very big condo projects i.e. more than > 500 units... maybe have tennis courts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy38
    We can only blame the government for the expensive ERP gantries.

    But honestly.... traffic wasn't that bad... I drive thr it from Simei to CBD around 8-815am... it's was ok. Though ERP charges are expensive.

    So DR offers a MRT alternative... to me is very good.
    You want good one? Very new. Just come. Very good service. You come from showroom to find me ok?

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    from my driving experience, the best traffic during peak hours is still bukit timah and holland area. no need to go through expressway and only 1 erp gantry 50 cents for bukit timah. no gantry for holland. both roads lead directly to town and avoid expressways. traffic always good unless u go to work during school hours at 7am

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentKhoo
    Hee hee. Those stay in AMK, Yio Chu Kang, Yishun die! die! Pay lots of ERP.

    Buy Dakota Residences. Near city. cheap! got MRT! Hee Hee

  6. #546
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth be told
    And because they cannot face the sea or reservoir like other good projects, face the geylang longkang will also make these hdb upgraders happy in dakota.

    If you read the govt masterplan... geylang river will be part the kallang revamp.... fresh water...beautiful landscape...all ready by 2012. The same for clover.... facing a canal.... those who bought clover... and chose facing the canal... are looking at the future.... when all these turn into beautiful landscape and fresh waters.

    Obviously... you're ignorant of all these... probably uneducated too!!!

  7. #547
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    Listen up you agents! hdb upgraders are all very gullible. just bandy about the terms like mrt! mrt! mrt! and masterplan! masterplan! and these hdb wannabe upgraders will be like putty in your hands!

    Most of these cheapos do not drive a car, so of course the mrt will come in handy. And becos they are so sua koo, they will also forgo the tennis court once you say the project is near the city city. That's how to close any of these small fly objections!

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy38
    If you read the govt masterplan... geylang river will be part the kallang revamp.... fresh water...beautiful landscape...all ready by 2012. The same for clover.... facing a canal.... those who bought clover... and chose facing the canal... are looking at the future.... when all these turn into beautiful landscape and fresh waters.

    Obviously... you're ignorant of all these... probably uneducated too!!!

  8. #548
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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy38
    If you read the govt masterplan... geylang river will be part the kallang revamp.... fresh water...beautiful landscape...all ready by 2012. The same for clover.... facing a canal.... those who bought clover... and chose facing the canal... are looking at the future.... when all these turn into beautiful landscape and fresh waters.

    Obviously... you're ignorant of all these... probably uneducated too!!!
    How long did cleaning the Kallang River take? 10 years or more? Who wants to wait that long?

  9. #549
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Agent
    Listen up you agents! hdb upgraders are all very gullible. just bandy about the terms like mrt! mrt! mrt! and masterplan! masterplan! and these hdb wannabe upgraders will be like putty in your hands!

    Most of these cheapos do not drive a car, so of course the mrt will come in handy. And becos they are so sua koo, they will also forgo the tennis court once you say the project is near the city city. That's how to close any of these small fly objections!
    Most of the buyers have private home addresses..... Straits Times.

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    Yah boy! the " wild wild west" is the luckiest when it comes to traffic conditions and least ERP. Lucky because they have so many roads that get them directly to city center - Bukit Timah, West Coast highway, Holland Road, Commonwealth etc - other than PIE and AYE. Even got short cuts like Cluny that cut through everything and get out at Orchard.... Lucky folks. Not much traffic problems.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered111
    from my driving experience, the best traffic during peak hours is still bukit timah and holland area. no need to go through expressway and only 1 erp gantry 50 cents for bukit timah. no gantry for holland. both roads lead directly to town and avoid expressways. traffic always good unless u go to work during school hours at 7am

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    Some Investors looking for rental yield becos red light district expected to huat with the IR coming. Prostitution and casino comes together. That's what I heard from an agent - off the record.. Will have high tenancy with lots of workers from "that" industry. Huat ah!

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy38
    Most of the buyers have private home addresses..... Straits Times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Work horse
    Some Investors looking for rental yield becos red light district expected to huat with the IR coming. Prostitution and casino comes together. That's what I heard from an agent - off the record.. Will have high tenancy with lots of workers from "that" industry. Huat ah!
    I already said I will bring my bangla and china mei mei tenants to rent Dakota Residences. Can co-broke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy38
    If you read the govt masterplan... geylang river will be part the kallang revamp.... fresh water...beautiful landscape...all ready by 2012. The same for clover.... facing a canal.... those who bought clover... and chose facing the canal... are looking at the future.... when all these turn into beautiful landscape and fresh waters.

    Obviously... you're ignorant of all these... probably uneducated too!!!
    Dude,
    Dont u see what neighborhood you are paying $1000psf for?
    Do u think people would just say negative remarks about a project because they're bored or could not afford it?
    Its honestly a rip off!
    Dirty canal, Slum area, 99years, totally crappy locations.
    The HDBs around the area are 3 freaking stories high!!!
    These are the super old HDB flats built by the government 2 decades ago.
    To me the whole area seems to be a god forsaken town.
    Dont u people SEE it?
    One cannot compare D15 condos with Dakota...
    Dakota is GL area for crying out loud!
    i truly feel sorry for the people who have bought DR.
    So many options nowadays with developers too scared to hold on to the projects.
    Kovan residences is another crappy project... $950psf for a LH99 condo in Kovan area. What a rip off!
    If you think i'm just bad mouthing DR because i'm bored, jealous or simply having a sad life then pls go ahead.
    All i can say is... $1000psf for GL area, LH99 condo
    Sad....damm damm sad...

  14. #554
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    Don't forget, DR has no tennis court either. It is so pitiful, especially for a project with condo status. Apts without tennis court is of course understandable. But for a wannabe condo... it is UNFORGIVABLE.

  15. #555
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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabe
    Dude,
    Dont u see what neighborhood you are paying $1000psf for?
    Do u think people would just say negative remarks about a project because they're bored or could not afford it?
    Its honestly a rip off!
    Dirty canal, Slum area, 99years, totally crappy locations.
    The HDBs around the area are 3 freaking stories high!!!
    These are the super old HDB flats built by the government 2 decades ago.
    To me the whole area seems to be a god forsaken town.
    Dont u people SEE it?
    One cannot compare D15 condos with Dakota...
    Dakota is GL area for crying out loud!
    i truly feel sorry for the people who have bought DR.
    So many options nowadays with developers too scared to hold on to the projects.
    Kovan residences is another crappy project... $950psf for a LH99 condo in Kovan area. What a rip off!
    If you think i'm just bad mouthing DR because i'm bored, jealous or simply having a sad life then pls go ahead.
    All i can say is... $1000psf for GL area, LH99 condo
    Sad....damm damm sad...
    Well.... each has his/her own views. Even different developers has their own views.... on the potential. Believe the site attracted more than 15 bids .. a record.

    Kovan is a nostalgic place to some... will not be right to comment. Ultimately... value is put by those who stay. Naturally... we would think it is insane to pay 3500 psf to stay at Nassim... but to others... it is cheap.

    Price is always relative. 1000 psf is peanuts to some... while to some... seem a sky high price.

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    Go check with some owners at Loyang Gardens. They paid a very high price back in 1996 for the 999yr property. In 2005, they wanted me to sell their property at $700k, already a heavy loss for them as they bought it easily another 100k+ higher. I couldn't do that, as the market price then for the project was just $600k+ That is the real world for you.

    To bring the case nearer to home (or geylang vicinity since this is dakota), same for Wing Fong Mansions and Wing Fong Court. The early birds bought the properties for around $650k. During 2005-2006 times, the same properties were going only for $300k to $330k. Do the maths and eat your hearts out.

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    Oh I forget... and the examples below were 999yr (almost as good as FH) and FH properties. 99LH properties will totally drop like a rock in bad times.

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentKhoo
    Go check with some owners at Loyang Gardens. They paid a very high price back in 1996 for the 999yr property. In 2005, they wanted me to sell their property at $700k, already a heavy loss for them as they bought it easily another 100k+ higher. I couldn't do that, as the market price then for the project was just $600k+ That is the real world for you.

    To bring the case nearer to home (or geylang vicinity since this is dakota), same for Wing Fong Mansions and Wing Fong Court. The early birds bought the properties for around $650k. During 2005-2006 times, the same properties were going only for $300k to $330k. Do the maths and eat your hearts out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy38
    Well.... each has his/her own views. Even different developers has their own views.... on the potential. Believe the site attracted more than 15 bids .. a record.

    Kovan is a nostalgic place to some... will not be right to comment. Ultimately... value is put by those who stay. Naturally... we would think it is insane to pay 3500 psf to stay at Nassim... but to others... it is cheap.

    Price is always relative. 1000 psf is peanuts to some... while to some... seem a sky high price.
    You dont need $3500psf to live in D10.
    D10 is quite big, dont have to stay in Nassim.
    you can easily get brand new D10 FH condos for $1200psf.
    But no, it does not have a MRT station cos people staying there dont take MRT.
    But yes $1200psf gets you a brand new D10 FH condo in which , u turn right, its Vivo & Sentosa in 10mins.
    Turn left its clarke quay, Orchard in 10mins.
    But not saying this to pissed people who bought DR or KR at $1000psf.
    I just feel tat there are so much better condos around.
    Y get into debt for the next 20-30years over overpriced not too good subrub area condos.
    I may sound offending, but i'm just trying to get my point across, pls dont get ripped off anymore people.

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    Good point. Precisely the quality projects are almost never near MRTs because they appeal to a different class of people. Only hdb upgraders are turned on by the promise of a nearby mrt.

    A case in point - is a GCB near any MRT for the matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered2
    you are very imaginative about hdb residents pointing at your car indeed!

    char kway teow fumes coming in from so far away? are you kidding too?

    how do you define prime district? in the past toa payoh is considered ulu. now, it is not. dakota is so near city, i will not be surprised if it becomes a prime district one day. and this is not a far fetched thing since the government is developing this area.
    Totally Agree with you..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentKhoo
    Good point. Precisely the quality projects are almost never near MRTs because they appeal to a different class of people. Only hdb upgraders are turned on by the promise of a nearby mrt.

    A case in point - is a GCB near any MRT for the matter?
    A case in point - is a GCB near any MRT for the matter? [/QUOTE]

    Frankel Avenue landed properties are quite near Kembangan MRT.
    But of cos they are no GCB standard.
    In fact i have more info on DR that proves my point of it being the rip off of the year.
    But i shall spare those who have bought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabe
    A case in point - is a GCB near any MRT for the matter?
    Frankel Avenue landed properties are quite near Kembangan MRT.
    But of cos they are no GCB standard.
    In fact i have more info on DR that proves my point of it being the rip off of the year.
    But i shall spare those who have bought.[/QUOTE]

    Share lah... don't let others be conned into buying a 99LH lemon with no tennis court and in the vicinity of the red light district. Come to think of it, they share the same district number D14!

  23. #563
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darius
    60%, that's pretty good considering that there are stacks still unlaunched. Why is there a forumer going on and on and on about tennis court????? If so importatnt, then just be it, move on and do not look at the project, I am personally fine with it. Strange.
    Maybe this tennis COCK really bother him so much.. HHMMM may he is our... National Player????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered101
    Maybe this tennis COCK really bother him so much.. HHMMM may he is our... National Player????
    Ooh... temper temper.... I too will feel inadequate if there is no tennis court for a condo. I will not buy a condo with no tennis court too.

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    Hur... no tennis court??? How can a much touted condo project have no tennis court. Maybe it is apartment status? My friends tell me projects with apartment status no need to have tennis courts because their land area is not big enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabe
    A case in point - is a GCB near any MRT for the matter?
    Frankel Avenue landed properties are quite near Kembangan MRT.
    But of cos they are no GCB standard.
    In fact i have more info on DR that proves my point of it being the rip off of the year.
    But i shall spare those who have bought.[/QUOTE]

    Kembangan is in D14. But it is never labelled as Geylang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankel
    Frankel Avenue landed properties are quite near Kembangan MRT.
    But of cos they are no GCB standard.
    In fact i have more info on DR that proves my point of it being the rip off of the year.
    But i shall spare those who have bought.
    Kembangan is in D14. But it is never labelled as Geylang.[/QUOTE]

    good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankel
    Frankel Avenue landed properties are quite near Kembangan MRT.
    But of cos they are no GCB standard.
    In fact i have more info on DR that proves my point of it being the rip off of the year.
    But i shall spare those who have bought.
    Kembangan is in D14. But it is never labelled as Geylang.[/QUOTE]

    cos its far from GL for the most obvious reasons although its in the same D14.
    But dakota.....well u go down and take a look yourself.

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    I don't think there are many brand new condos at 1200 in D10, but for resale 1200psf is everywhere in D10. That is why it's hard to understand why people flock to the showflats when the resale are better value. Some of these people might be not familiar with the property market, and have no idea how to view and buy a resale flat.

    As for location, if near an MRT is the only criteria, then I think one should just settle for a HDB. At the end of the day, many condo dwellers pay to have better quality of life and having country-club facilities at their doorstep. There're some older condos with much bigger land area, better pools, better tennis courts, golf putting green, etc etc. - a full suite of facilities. The chance of enbloc is also much higher with huge plots of land. Of course, not everyone leads a healthy lifestyle, but then if you don't do any sports, then why bother to stay in a condo wh is 99 yrs? To hao lian issit? How to hao lian when people ask you "where is dakota?" and you have to say near Geylang? Dakota is very near Geylang. Dakota MRT station will be the congregation point, the nearest MRT to red light district. Can imagine the MRT station will be v interesting....

    Quote Originally Posted by wannabe
    You dont need $3500psf to live in D10.
    D10 is quite big, dont have to stay in Nassim.
    you can easily get brand new D10 FH condos for $1200psf.
    But no, it does not have a MRT station cos people staying there dont take MRT.
    But yes $1200psf gets you a brand new D10 FH condo in which , u turn right, its Vivo & Sentosa in 10mins.
    Turn left its clarke quay, Orchard in 10mins.
    But not saying this to pissed people who bought DR or KR at $1000psf.
    I just feel tat there are so much better condos around.
    Y get into debt for the next 20-30years over overpriced not too good subrub area condos.
    I may sound offending, but i'm just trying to get my point across, pls dont get ripped off anymore people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabe
    You dont need $3500psf to live in D10.
    D10 is quite big, dont have to stay in Nassim.
    you can easily get brand new D10 FH condos for $1200psf.
    But no, it does not have a MRT station cos people staying there dont take MRT.
    But yes $1200psf gets you a brand new D10 FH condo in which , u turn right, its Vivo & Sentosa in 10mins.
    Turn left its clarke quay, Orchard in 10mins.
    But not saying this to pissed people who bought DR or KR at $1000psf.
    I just feel tat there are so much better condos around.
    Y get into debt for the next 20-30years over overpriced not too good subrub area condos.
    I may sound offending, but i'm just trying to get my point across, pls dont get ripped off anymore people.
    HOOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOH

    SHANGHAI ONE RIGHT!!!?!??!??!?!??!?!?!!

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