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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    Yes, agree to disagree.
    In retrospect, I think I have been too short-sighted, I heard that the area will be revamped and yes, there is potential..... guess, the pro-Dakota may be right.

  2. #362
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    I thought I will post this for those who were caught up in the exchanges:


    Quote Originally Posted by Darius
    I think Dakota Residence has potential. The proximity to CBD plus MRT are the biggest selling points. May just consider.......



    New URA Masterplan: Kallang, Paya Lebar The New Stars

    Source : The Straits Times, May 24, 2008

    Over 10 years they will become lifestyle and commercial hubs

    GOOD news, Kallang and Paya Lebar: It is your turn to shine.
    The two sleepy industrial estates have been identified as Singapore's next big urban hotspots, as the nation's land planners draw up blueprints for the next 15 years.

    Now colourless and underdeveloped, these towns will burst into full bloom over the next decade. Paya Lebar will be transformed into a thriving commercial and civic centre, while Kallang will become a residential and lifestyle hub with homes and offices set among green parks and sandy beaches.

    'To make Singapore an endearing home, the Draft Master Plan will seek to retain places of identity and heritage.' (Above) an artist's impression of the beaches at Kallang Riverside. -- PHOTOS: URA

    They are the stars of the Urban Redevelopment Authority's (URA) highly anticipated Draft Master Plan, which was released by National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan yesterday.

    The Master Plan, which guides Singapore's land use over the next 10 to 15 years, is revised every five years to provide more housing and leisure options and ensure that sufficient space is set aside to support a growing population.

    The plan also continues a sustained effort to decentralise and reduce congestion in the Central Business District by building offices all across the island, bringing jobs closer to homes.

    Some of the plan's highlights, such as the new Jurong Lake District and the new MRT lines, have already been revealed.

    Other plans were more fully fleshed out yesterday, such as the expansion of the city's commercial centre, which will double in size to include Marina Bay and Tanjong Pagar, as well as the Beach Road/Ophir-Rochor corridor.

    The Government also announced that it has earmarked enough land for 328,200 new homes around the island. More than a third will be in the central region bordered by Bishan, Sentosa, Marine Parade and Queenstown.

    'We have seen significant transformation of our city over the past 10 years,' said Mr Mah yesterday.

    'The next 10 years can be just as exciting, if not more. Despite the current economic uncertainties, I am optimistic that we can grow from strength to strength.'

    Property players were impressed by the new Master Plan, saying it proves Singapore can remain a sustainable global city and a promising investment destination.

    Equally importantly, there is 'a piece of action for every developer, no matter what kind of homes or offices or hotels they build', said Mr Simon Cheong, chief of developer SC Global and president of the Real Estate Developers' Association of Singapore.
    Published May 24, 2008

    Live, Work, Play at a neighbourhood near you

    With Draft Master Plan, ambitious concept is taken further afield to Kallang and Paya Lebar

    By ARTHUR SIM


    (SINGAPORE) The Urban and Redevelopment Authority's (URA) Live, Work and Play mantra has been so successful in the Downtown Core precinct - as evidenced by the rapid development of offices, condos, hotels and leisure hotspots - that plans are now underway to export the concept to outlying districts in earnest.

    The URA has already rolled out ambitious plans to transform Jurong East into a bustling sub-metropolitan hub of parks, offices, hotels, edutainment centres and homes.

    Now, with the launch of the Draft Master Plan 2008 yesterday, it has included similar blueprints for Kallang and Paya Lebar as well.

    The three new hubs - Jurong Lake District, Kallang Riverside, and Paya Lebar Central - all have one objective in common, and that is to balance the elements of Live, Work and Play.

    Speaking at the launch of the Draft Master Plan 2008 exhibition at URA Centre yesterday, Minister for National Development Mah Bow Tan highlighted three key objectives of the latest Master Plan. Of these, it was the need to 'enhance accessibility and reduce commuting by bringing jobs closer to home' that underscores the need for the three new hubs. Not surprisingly then, Mr Mah added that public transportation has been 'prioritised'.

    The other two objectives are to 'ensure that we have enough land to support economic opportunity', and to 'provide quality housing and leisure options for our people'.

    Currently, the three areas have the potential to be sub-metropolitan hubs as they are, or will be, transportation nodes with the completion of existing and future rail, bus and road networks.

    However, looking at each area reveals that at least one of the three important ingredients of Live, Work and Play is missing.

    In the current Jurong East, for instance, there lacks a central office zone even though it has a relatively large population catchment area. As such, URA has designated 500,000 square metres of office space, 250,000 sq m of retail and entertainment space, 2,800 hotel rooms, but just 1,000 units of new homes for Jurong Lake District.

    Also bringing jobs closer to home is Paya Lebar Central, which is in the centre of another large population catchment area.

    Here, URA is planning for 294,000 sq m of office space, 200,000 sq m of hotel and retail space, but no new housing.

    Kallang Riverside, which is on the fringe of the city is, however, relatively under-populated and will have space for 4,000 new waterfront homes and 3,000 hotel rooms. Being a much larger area and close to the new Sports Hub, it will also have 300,000 sq m of office space and 300,000 sq m of hotel, retail and entertainment spaces.

    So, will it work?

    City Developments Ltd (CDL), which helped kick-start Marina Bay with The Sail, had initially planned the project as being half-commercial. Even then, many market watchers thought that only a complete office would work. Going against conventional wisdom of the time, it was eventually designed as two residential towers in 2003.

    Looking back, CDL managing director Kwek Leng Joo, says: 'Ultimately, we strongly believed that developing the very first residential development in the vicinity - a truly iconic one for that matter, would be most synergistic and truly reflect the 'Live' component of URA's vision.'

    That Marina South remains largely untouched in the Draft Master Plan 2008 suggests that there is more emphasis on decentralisation compared to the previous Master Plan which emphasised the Downtown Core.

    Knight Frank managing director Tan Tiong Cheng said: 'With the new Master Plan, there is a drive to develop areas with potential that have not been previously emphasised.

    'Marina South will be quite easy to roll out because it sits on vacant state land. And when sites are available, they should sell quite fast.'

    URA's decentralisation strategy was first adopted in 1991, with the Concept Plan that maps out the long-term 40-50-year vision.

    The Master Plan, which translates the Concept Plan strategies into detailed statutory land use plans to guide development over periods of 10-15 years, is reviewed every five years and may have different priorities.

    The Master Plan 2008 also goes some way in addressing the widening gap between high-end and mass market homes.

    Jones Lang LaSalle's head of research (South-east Asia), Chua Yang Liang, said: 'The strategy is really a bi-polar one.'

    He explained that the Master Plan has to deal with planning issues that involve communities revolving around manufacturing in the north, and wealthier communities who are choosing to move downtown, especially to waterfront homes in the south. And recently, the disparity between high-end waterfront homes at Sentosa Cove and those in the heartlands has widened.

    As such, Dr Chua notes that much of the new housing that has been highlighted in the outer regions all face the water.

    'This emphasis on providing more waterfront homes would greatly enhance social equity by making such homes more affordable to the regular guy on the street and not limited to just the affluent,' he added.

    If water is the new social glue, then the Rail Transit System (RTS) is its life blood.

    Industry players are perhaps a little disappointed that not much has been done by way of increasing plot ratios, a move that usually adds zest to the property market.

    But Savills Singapore director (marketing and development) Ku Swee Yong notes that property values, and possibly even plot ratios, tend to rise around new MRT stations.

    And with the RTS already reported to be doubled from 138 km today to 278 km by 2020, with an addition of over 40 new stations, Mr Ku is hopeful that the next Master Plan review could see more plot ratio goodies. 'I think URA might just be waiting for the new infrastructure to be completed,' he added.

  3. #363
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    Versus this project (ave psf: $1500-1600 psf), Dakota Residences is very reasonable. Well, also near Geylang but so what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lily
    The Riverine By The Park at Kallang. Freehold but almost double Dakota Residences' prices.

  4. #364
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    Just want to balance things up, I am at the showflat everyday, look for me.... Personally, I will buy the project.

  5. #365
    Casino prostituion cycle Guest

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    Many buyers are investors, not owner occupiers. Do some research on what industries do well when casinos open and you will be able to see this area has potential. In economics term, it is known as the casino-prostitution cycle - it is a well-known and well-researched fact that prostitution is a side effect of casinos. Sexual toursim will thrive with a casino (enough evidence out there) - and this area is earmarked for that - Geylang will expand. An investor only wants to rent and sell to the highest bidder to maximise return - he or she will not discrimate against any type of tenant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silly dakota agent
    In retrospect, I think I have been too short-sighted, I heard that the area will be revamped and yes, there is potential..... guess, the pro-Dakota may be right.

  6. #366
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casino prostituion cycle
    Many buyers are investors, not owner occupiers. Do some research on what industries do well when casinos open and you will be able to see this area has potential. In economics term, it is known as the casino-prostitution cycle - it is a well-known and well-researched fact that prostitution is a side effect of casinos. Sexual toursim will thrive with a casino (enough evidence out there) - and this area is earmarked for that - Geylang will expand. An investor only wants to rent and sell to the highest bidder to maximise return - he or she will not discrimate against any type of tenant.
    Well, come to think about it, I do not think the Singapore government will allow prostitution to flourish, maybe elsewhere. Silly me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casino prostitution cycle
    Well, come to think about it, I do not think the Singapore government will allow prostitution to flourish, maybe elsewhere. Silly me.
    There are talks that the government may shift the vice to some far corner of the island and make use of the valuable land there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casino prostitution cycle
    There are talks that the government may shift the vice to some far corner of the island and make use of the valuable land there.
    I heard either Woodlands or Jurong.....

  9. #369
    Silly dakota agent Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    I heard either Woodlands or Jurong.....
    I hope not to St Michael Road.....

  10. #370
    Agent Khoo Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly dakota agent
    In retrospect, I think I have been too short-sighted, I heard that the area will be revamped and yes, there is potential..... guess, the pro-Dakota may be right.
    Then you are really short sighted and bodoh like anything. Never buy a red light area, for goodness sakes!

  11. #371
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    Then you are really short sighted and bodoh like anything. Never buy a red light area, for goodness sakes!
    Typo error: that is meant for the Geylang thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casino prostitution cycle
    There are talks that the government may shift the vice to some far corner of the island and make use of the valuable land there.
    Don't be silly. In order for the government to do that, they will have to entice the developers to build all those cheap hotels and terraces all over again. Unless you are talking about Hillview area or Jurong Kechil then?

    Still... not very practical, and to transport all the banglas and china, thai, indonesian mei mei all the way inland. Geylang is so central and every tourists and mei mei know the spot... so these denizens of night will stay put in Geylang for several generations to come.

  13. #373
    Agent Khoo Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    Just want to balance things up, I am at the showflat everyday, look for me.... Personally, I will buy the project.
    Just to re-confirm my error.

  14. #374
    Agent Khoo Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    Typo error: that is meant for the Geylang thread.
    This is Geylang thread. D14 you know.

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    Agent Khoo Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    Just to re-confirm my error.
    Yup, agents will say anything to get a commission. I should know.

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    Agent Khoo Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    Don't be silly. In order for the government to do that, they will have to entice the developers to build all those cheap hotels and terraces all over again. Unless you are talking about Hillview area or Jurong Kechil then?

    Still... not very practical, and to transport all the banglas and china, thai, indonesian mei mei all the way inland. Geylang is so central and every tourists and mei mei know the spot... so these denizens of night will stay put in Geylang for several generations to come.
    Having said that, Singapore is a small island, transportation no problem. My personal view is that it will shift.

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    Agent Khoo Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    Yup, agents will say anything to get a commission. I should know.
    Just joking hahaha, hope you got my joke.

  18. #378
    Agent Khoo Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    Having said that, Singapore is a small island, transportation no problem. My personal view is that it will shift.
    I know. It is a question of when. Some say move to Tuas, some say move to Woodlands.. I have been saying that to my buyers since 2001 when I was selling apts in the geylang lorongs. 7 years later... the chicken houses are still there.

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    Silly dakota agent Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly dakota agent
    I hope not to St Michael Road.....
    Is that why condo there $600 psf? I should know better.

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    Casino prostitution cycle Guest

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    Do some research. Very unlikely. Prostitution only do well in city fringe. Also, the govt scholars very smart one, they have done their homework and jolly well know that the casino WILL fail without prostitution - and Singapore cannot fail. So they will unlikely rein in the sex industry.

    Yes, this area will be revamped together with the casino to cater to the other desires of the gamblers. Geylang will spread its tentacles and become even more colourful than it is today. Good investment!


    Pls do not take on my identity.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fake "Casino prostitution cycle"
    There are talks that the government may shift the vice to some far corner of the island and make use of the valuable land there.

  21. #381
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    I know. It is a question of when. Some say move to Tuas, some say move to Woodlands.. I have been saying that to my buyers since 2001 when I was selling apts in the geylang lorongs. 7 years later... the chicken houses are still there.
    Good, looks like you reaffirm that it will be shifted...

  22. #382
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly dakota agent
    Is that why condo there $600 psf? I should know better.
    It just shows which location and development has better value. Still, beauty and value is in the eyes of the beholder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    It just shows which location and development has better value. Still, beauty and value is in the eyes of the beholder.
    Good, now you also agree that beauty and value in the eyes of the beholder, same goes for Dakota supporters....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly dakota agent
    Good, looks like you reaffirm that it will be shifted...
    Nothing is forever. The timing is key. What is the point of Geylang shifting in the year 2100?

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    Silly dakota agent Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    Nothing is forever. The timing is key. What is the point of Geylang shifting in the year 2100?
    Good, you also agreed that timing is key. What if it is 2009?

  26. #386
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly dakota agent
    Good, now you also agree that beauty and value in the eyes of the beholder, same goes for Dakota supporters....
    I agree. Even if there is only 1 dakota lover and 100 dakota distractors i.e. dislike the location and project... there is nothing to say that sole 1 dakota lover is wrong. In his eyes, he is still right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    I agree. Even if there is only 1 dakota lover and 100 dakota distractors i.e. dislike the location and project... there is nothing to say that sole 1 dakota lover is wrong. In his eyes, he is still right
    Good, same goes for 1 dakota hater and 100 lovers. Agreed absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly dakota agent
    Good, you also agreed that timing is key. What if it is 2009?
    How to? The Geylang infrastructure will not be ready. Don't forget, in order for our ah peks to bonk the china or thai mei mei, they need small sleazy hotels or duplex apts similar to geylang. You also need the hawkers and coffeeshops. Beef noodles, durian sellers, beer girls and other sleazy denizens of the night.

    You have to get those ready to accomodate the bonking partners. Also, you think residents from whichever location will not kick up a fuss and protest? Look at the Joo Chiat residents. So project again delayed... and delayed... looks like 2100 is a more realistic figure. Till then, have fun bonking in Geylang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silly dakota agent
    Good, same goes for 1 dakota hater and 100 lovers. Agreed absolutely.
    I am glad you are so amiable

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    Agent Khoo Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Khoo
    How to? The Geylang infrastructure will not be ready. Don't forget, in order for our ah peks to bonk the china or thai mei mei, they need small sleazy hotels or duplex apts similar to geylang. You also need the hawkers and coffeeshops. Beef noodles, durian sellers, beer girls and other sleazy denizens of the night.

    You have to get those ready to accomodate the bonking partners. Also, you think residents from whichever location will not kick up a fuss and protest? Look at the Joo Chiat residents. So project again delayed... and delayed... looks like 2100 is a more realistic figure. Till then, have fun bonking in Geylang.
    Well, having said that, Geylang is also not the only place with prostitution, Balestier also got and even heartlands, so not difficult to move.... maybe, can move in 2009.

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