[Serious need opinion] - The Parc or The Trilinq

[highlander1984]

If you build it, it adds a few tens of thousands to your renovation budget.

6-7 years later, when you sell, must make sure the structure can still be used. Else, it might be hard for you to sell that extra space.

Air con may face some minor cooling problem as cold air sinks so the loft level takes longer to cool unless the vent faces it.

The extra charge of unbuilt space turned me off too.

agreed, that is a very important point, I noticed some of the showflats use flimsy materials for show, but otherwise cant be really "used"

[frumnat]

for a 120sqm in total area apartment inclusive of void area in living room. max reno budget 50k-ish?can achieve something decent? void area is around 17sqm

It’s quite obvious you already have a little penchant for Trilinq. If I were you, I would go for The Parc for a few personal reasons. FH being one of them.

Dei, have you viewed the 2 places? If not, no point asking internet time and again. You wouldn’t marry a girl without first dating her, ya?

[highlander1984]

It’s quite obvious you already have a little penchant for Trilinq. If I were you, I would go for The Parc for a few personal reasons. FH being one of them.

Dei, have you viewed the 2 places? If not, no point asking internet time and again. You wouldn’t marry a girl without first dating her, ya?

I saw the parc units and the trilinq (not the showflat, the completed empty unit). Actually I like the Parc, its bigger, FH and offers a lower PSF. But as it was built sometime ago, it contains many planter spots which were typical designs of the past. then there is also the issue of budget. due to specific directions that I want. the bigger units in the park belong to those at the max range of what I can offer. This dosent include the additional reno exp I need to incur as most units for sale were for rent with little furnishings and sometimes poorly maintained internally which I need to redo for stay.

The trilinq, well, the rooms are very small. the direction is okay. the level is fine. but it contains the dbl ceiling. the furnishings is also unimpressive for the price. literally paying the premium for the clementi plot of land. hence the pain not knowing which should I go for. as the parc is one bidge away from central and yet not too near from clementi central whereas the internal design of trilinq is ehhm...

the parc has marbled floor if I am not wrong. this adds up to better internal furnishing

[Kelonguni]

So your choices are to pay to your limit for a resale FH, or to keep some buffers by going for a smaller Nee LH?

And still wish to maximise profit as an investment?

There are conflicting factors that make it impossible to advise. For example, FH should increase in price more if there is a boom based on PSF price, larger size and tenure, but the lower, palatable quantum and newer condition may also result in more demand than new LH.

[highlander1984]

Sorry, what do you mean by but the lower, palatable quantum and newer condition may also result in more demand than new LH.

[Kelonguni]

Sorry, what do you mean by but the lower, palatable quantum and newer condition may also result in more demand than new LH.

That means more people can afford to buy from you 6, 7 years later, much like your current affordability calculations.

But going forward, no one is really sure about incomes clearing TDSR 7 years later. If incomes grow extraordinarily fast (unlikely), then there will be a stronger demand for tenure. No one knows.

[highlander1984]

That means more people can afford to buy from you 6, 7 years later, much like your current affordability calculations.

But going forward, no one is really sure about incomes clearing TDSR 7 years later. If incomes grow extraordinarily fast (unlikely), then there will be a stronger demand for tenure. No one knows.

I see, but this is under the assumption that both properties under comparison share the exact/almost identical traits and hence with similar location, height, décor etc the longer tenure will be the clear cut choice. But it is very difficult to find them in the first place. which once again unfortunately drives me back to the same question in the title, which I will not ask here again.

Should I instead raise the debate of the parc or the trilinq as is it a case of location, location location?

[Kelonguni]

Location wise not much difference. Both will give you hot sweat walking to MRT or mall, so most likely take feeder bus. Proximity to West Coast and stadium balanced by proximity to Nanhua.

Psf, size and tenure and newness are the main differences. Based on affordability, Trilinq is more suited for you.

I see, but this is under the assumption that both properties under comparison share the exact/almost identical traits and hence with similar location, height, décor etc the longer tenure will be the clear cut choice. But it is very difficult to find them in the first place. which once again unfortunately drives me back to the same question in the title, which I will not ask here again.

Should I instead raise the debate of the parc or the trilinq as is it a case of location, location location?

[Laguna]

I see, but this is under the assumption that both properties under comparison share the exact/almost identical traits and hence with similar location, height, décor etc the longer tenure will be the clear cut choice. But it is very difficult to find them in the first place. which once again unfortunately drives me back to the same question in the title, which I will not ask here again.

Should I instead raise the debate of the parc or the trilinq as is it a case of location, location location?

Good to know you are smarter now not to repeat the same question.

Location is still secondary to Timing.

Location is knowledge whereas
Timing is wisdom..

I am not optimistic in buying property now or near future

[Kelonguni]

He is buying to stay for 7 years, surely the timing cannot be any better.

Unless your advice is for him to rent with his wife for the next few years.

Which is riskier?

Good to know you are smarter now not to repeat the same question.

Location is still secondary to Timing.

Location is knowledge whereas
Timing is wisdom..

I am not optimistic in buying property now or near future

[sunman77]

The Parc is nearer to light HDB amenities, which I love a lot.

[frumnat]

He is buying to stay for 7 years, surely the timing cannot be any better.

Unless your advice is for him to rent with his wife for the next few years.

Which is riskier?

Never pay someone else's mortgage. Unless you have a sound financial game plan or really boh pian, then by all means rent.

[highlander1984]

He is buying to stay for 7 years, surely the timing cannot be any better.

Unless your advice is for him to rent with his wife for the next few years.

Which is riskier?

On a unrelated note, is it doable to request for a 1-2% discount from developer?

[Kelonguni]

On a unrelated note, is it doable to request for a 1-2% discount from developer?

Can request, but from my colleagues' experience with the developer, it is unlikely they will accede.

Need help to negotiate I can ask my relative. But generally there should be many who can help you on this.

[frumnat]

Can request, but from my colleagues' experience with the developer, it is unlikely they will accede.

Need help to negotiate I can ask my relative. But generally there should be many who can help you on this.

Sorry to throw wet blanket. With thinning profit margin, developer is unlikely to give 1-2% discount for a single unit. My colleague tried bargaining for $5K discount for a $1M unit but got rejected. Unless you buy in bulk like Wee Cho Yaw, discount is unlikely UNLESS it is their star buy units.

Having said that, no harm trying. Never ask, never get.

[sunman77]

On a unrelated note, is it doable to request for a 1-2% discount from developer?

I can.
Please contact me. My contacts are in your PM already.

[stellamara]

hi, I have visited both condo and finally decided to buy trilinq.

you are comparing FH to LH, but the location really differs by a LOT. You can try driving out from the Parc and from Trilinq. Even though there's is a misconception that the road outside of Trilinq is always jammed but actually it moves really fast, and is only slightly jam during 6.30 - 7 pm. The other times it serve as a connector between PIE and AYE. Where can you find such access? This access can get you to Cecil street in the same amount of time as from D'leedon lol.

But the rooms are EXCEPTIONALLY small in Trilinq case and leftover lower units are subject to potential blocked views. If you did get a sufficiently high floor, the view is awesome with sea view and great balcony space (subject to individuals).

I love the high ceiling and i love the west side and high floor, ultimately i made my choice with trilinq

[anythingwhatever]

Never pay someone else's mortgage. Unless you have a sound financial game plan or really boh pian, then by all means rent.

Agree, if one is in position to buy (bear in mind many are not), just buy (within means, of course).

[anythingwhatever]

Sorry to throw wet blanket. With thinning profit margin, developer is unlikely to give 1-2% discount for a single unit. My colleague tried bargaining for $5K discount for a $1M unit but got rejected. Unless you buy in bulk like Wee Cho Yaw, discount is unlikely UNLESS it is their star buy units.

Having said that, no harm trying. Never ask, never get.

Not entirely true, it all depend on developers, some developments able to offer 3-5% discounts off listed price. (Could be a case of mark-up first then discount through).

Anyway, like you said: never try, never know.

[Developer]

Sorry to throw wet blanket. With thinning profit margin, developer is unlikely to give 1-2% discount for a single unit. My colleague tried bargaining for $5K discount for a $1M unit but got rejected. Unless you buy in bulk like Wee Cho Yaw, discount is unlikely UNLESS it is their star buy units.

Having said that, no harm trying. Never ask, never get.

What is a "star buy unit"? Why is it so special? Thanks.

[anythingwhatever]

What is a "star buy unit"? Why is it so special? Thanks.

Typically the left over units, possibly the bigger ones, or those less appealing units with poorer facing.

[Developer]

Typically the left over units, possibly the bigger ones, or those less appealing units with poorer facing.

I see. Thanks.