Owners in the West beware!!

[Poloclub]

I understand what you mean, but the current trending is localization, or converting the expat to local package once they obtain the PR.

I just view white collar foreign indians as up and coming, having good budget and purchasing power ...

Indians generally prefer the East to West. Those with low budget will choose places like Simei and tampines, those with more budget will chose D15. When Overseas Family School moves to the East, you will see even more Indian moving in that direction.

Having said that, there are also many landlord in Singapore who prefer not to rent out to Indians due to various reasons.

[amk]

Wow...Lakefront Residence is now setting the standard in JLD.

2 penthouses were transacted at $7800 and $8400 per month in Sep 2014.
3 bedder 1000-1100sqft $5450 in Nov 2014.

hmm what do you make of these rental numbers :

THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,450 900 to 1000 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,350 900 to 1000 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 900 to 1000 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,200 900 to 1000 Nov-14

I *think* 3k plus is more like typical expected rental. in line with other projects.

[EBD]

Not trying to be kaypoh here, but I notice your forum activities in the past months are only limited to specific topic that are not related to property discussion but mud slinging.

Regarding on the subject of property 101, I have to disagree with that statement actually because over the past 50 years, the urban landscape in Singapore is constantly evolving and you can obviously see that if you compare the current Jurong Lake District to Jurong East 10 of 15 years ago.

Then as you are kaypoh dig a bit further and you will understand why many people on this board have been dealing with this individual very robustly.
Better to do more research than wade into someone else's fight half way with a poor understanding and start to comment.

They are also clearly not only limited to "mudslinging" as you call it.

I suggest you use google to figure out what I am talking about. I did not invent this view on property. It's also clearly not what you think.

[amk]

There are quite a few 3 bedder going at >$5K, I believe the big disparity could be due to facing. eg MRT track vs lake view.

to be honest I very much doubt it. This ad is facing the lake and is asking 3.8k:

http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listi...ont-residences

In fact if you do a listing of all rental ads with this size, no one is even *asking* 5k rent.

The 5.4k recorded must be of some very special cases. To me 3k plus is exactly what the market is. Dun get too excited by the 5k numbers.

[sunrise]

to be honest I very much doubt it. This ad is facing the lake and is asking 3.8k:

http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listi...ont-residences

In fact if you do a listing of all rental ads with this size, no one is even *asking* 5k rent.

The 5.4k recorded must be of some very special cases. To me 3k plus is exactly what the market is. Dun get too excited by the 5k numbers.

5k can choose to live in many parts of singapore. avoid biten by lake alligators and heavy industries fume.

[Kelonguni]

Exceptional cases are possible if the rent includes utilities and rented to 9 separate individuals. Each pay $600 and on the aircon 24hrs, no deposit required. Some other possibilities to inflate the isolated figure but not appropriate to discuss here.

[Ling Ping]

to be honest I very much doubt it. This ad is facing the lake and is asking 3.8k:

http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listi...ont-residences

In fact if you do a listing of all rental ads with this size, no one is even *asking* 5k rent.

The 5.4k recorded must be of some very special cases. To me 3k plus is exactly what the market is. Dun get too excited by the 5k numbers.

I would prefer to comment of actually transaction data rather than speculation.

If you look at URA transaction record, there is actually a few 3 bedders unit that were transacted at >$5k in 2014 and also the penthouse that was rented out at $8.4k. And if you check the URA website, the median rent for Lakefront Residence is about $44 psm, which is around $4.1psf. So for a 1000sqft 3 bedder, the median rent should be around $4.1k.

I am sure in every development, there will sure be some special cases of say fully furnished, free internet and aircon servicing etc. Even if you throw in all those freebies, >$5k for a 1000 sqft 3 bedder in D22 is still very decent. For the price, you could even get a larger unit in D10.

[Ling Ping]

Exceptional cases are possible if the rent includes utilities and rented to 9 separate individuals. Each pay $600 and on the aircon 24hrs, no deposit required. Some other possibilities to inflate the isolated figure but not appropriate to discuss here.

In order for URA to capture the rent transaction, I presume the TA will have to send to IRAS for stamping.
So technically speaking, those high rental transaction cant be rented out to separate individual?

[teddybear]

The $5450 per month one copied my tactic of throwing in upfront cash of $24,000 for furnishing???

hmm what do you make of these rental numbers :

THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,450 900 to 1000 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,350 900 to 1000 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 900 to 1000 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,200 900 to 1000 Nov-14

I *think* 3k plus is more like typical expected rental. in line with other projects.

[teddybear]

Actually I know why - may be because of another reason...
I heard that recently, many of these OCR condos with abnormally high rental are rented out with "cash-back". What is it?
Very simple, the tenant chose the unit and their company pay (as corporate lease) BUT the owner/agent give cash back to the tenant living in the units directly (under table!!!...

I would prefer to comment of actually transaction data rather than speculation.

If you look at URA transaction record, there is actually a few 3 bedders unit that were transacted at >$5k in 2014 and also the penthouse that was rented out at $8.4k. And if you check the URA website, the median rent for Lakefront Residence is about $44 psm, which is around $4.1psf. So for a 1000sqft 3 bedder, the median rent should be around $4.1k.

I am sure in every development, there will sure be some special cases of say fully furnished, free internet and aircon servicing etc. Even if you throw in all those freebies, >$5k for a 1000 sqft 3 bedder in D22 is still very decent. For the price, you could even get a larger unit in D10.

[PC08]

Indians generally prefer the East to West. Those with low budget will choose places like Simei and tampines, those with more budget will chose D15. When Overseas Family School moves to the East, you will see even more Indian moving in that direction.

Having said that, there are also many landlord in Singapore who prefer not to rent out to Indians due to various reasons.

Both my tenants are Indians, they seem fine really.

[Kelonguni]

In order for URA to capture the rent transaction, I presume the TA will have to send to IRAS for stamping.
So technically speaking, those high rental transaction cant be rented out to separate individual?

It can be done. 1 master tenant, X no. of tenants.

When there are other units in the same vicinity and other developments nearby at a much lower price, it is irrational to ask to pay more unless there are special concessions to tenants or there are special advantages to over declare.

[Ling Ping]

It can be done. 1 master tenant, X no. of tenants.

When there are other units in the same vicinity and other developments nearby at a much lower price, it is irrational to ask to pay more unless there are special concessions to tenants or there are special advantages to over declare.

I believe there could be exceptional cases, but I doubt thats the case for Lakefront Residence that just TOP a few months back.

Here are a list of rental transaction for similar size 3 bedder. I believe the disparity is due to facing and furnishing rather than renting out to individual tenant.

THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,400 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,200 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,750 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,900 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,900 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,450 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 5,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,900 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,200 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,300 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,400 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,300 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 5,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,300 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,850 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,550 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,250 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,400 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,850 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,300 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,350 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,200 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,700 1100 to 1200 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1100 to 1200 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1100 to 1200 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1100 to 1200 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1100 to 1200 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1200 to 1300 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,100 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,700 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,600 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,650 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1200 to 1300 Jun-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,100 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,100 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,550 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1200 to 1300 Aug-14

[teddybear]

Did you notice something, that is: Lakefront 1200-1300 sqft units were commanding rental almost similar to 1000-1100 sqft? Any particular reason? If you take an average, Lakefront 1200-1300 sqft rental is about $3.2 psf pm isn't it?

I believe there could be exceptional cases, but I doubt thats the case for Lakefront Residence that just TOP a few months back.

Here are a list of rental transaction for similar size 3 bedder. I believe the disparity is due to facing and furnishing rather than renting out to individual tenant.

THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,400 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,200 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,750 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,900 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,900 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,450 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 5,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,900 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,200 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,300 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,400 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,300 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 5,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,300 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,850 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,550 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,250 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,400 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,850 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,300 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,350 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,200 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,700 1100 to 1200 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1100 to 1200 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1100 to 1200 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1100 to 1200 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1100 to 1200 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1200 to 1300 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,100 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,700 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,600 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,650 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1200 to 1300 Jun-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,100 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,100 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,550 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1200 to 1300 Aug-14

[DC33_2008]

I am surprise that this development has so large unit but so low rent in terms of $/psf:

Extracted from URA site [THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES, 3 bedder, $5,000 Size: 2000 to 2100 Nov-14]

Can anyone confirmed?

[dtrax]

Hmm like that also can?
To be fair take the average rental instead of the outliner on extreme ends over a period of time for any development. Otherwise close one eye take highest for any condo can scream ice-cream

ALTEZ ENGGOR STREET 02 Non-landed Properties 1 4,500 500 to 600 Nov-14

Like that huat already?

Actually that's not the highest got 4.65k per month and the average rental is 4k.

[Simi]

I am surprise that this development has so large unit but so low rent in terms of $/psf:

Extracted from URA site [THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES, 3 bedder, $5,000 Size: 2000 to 2100 Nov-14]

Can anyone confirmed?

3 bedroom penthouse ?

[teddybear]

Think they rent by the room? That is why 3 bedders command $5000 (regardless of size in SQFT).

Similarly, 1200-1300 sqft commands same rent as 1000-1100 sqft because both only have 3 rooms, and all command rental of about $3500-5000.

I am surprise that this development has so large unit but so low rent in terms of $/psf:

Extracted from URA site [THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES, 3 bedder, $5,000 Size: 2000 to 2100 Nov-14]

Can anyone confirmed?

[Ling Ping]

Hmm like that also can?
To be fair take the average rental instead of the outliner on extreme ends over a period of time for any development. Otherwise close one eye take highest for any condo can scream ice-cream

ALTEZ ENGGOR STREET 02 Non-landed Properties 1 4,500 500 to 600 Nov-14

Like that huat already?

Actually that's not the highest got 4.65k per month and the average rental is 4k.

Thats correct. Thats why I say using URA median rent is the best indicator.

Median rent $psm from URA
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES $37.63 $43.94 $48.78

[Kelonguni]

Wow...Lakefront Residence is now setting the standard in JLD.

2 penthouses were transacted at $7800 and $8400 per month in Sep 2014.
3 bedder 1000-1100sqft $5450 in Nov 2014.

What you posted appeared to suggest that outliers instead of the median should be used to set the standard for JLD. Highly misleading.

[Ling Ping]

What you posted appeared to suggest that outliers instead of the median should be used to set the standard for JLD. Highly misleading.

I have highlighted both actually, the median from URA database as well as record rent for D22 condo
I could be wrong, but I do believe $8.4k per month is the highest ever transacted for D22.

[Simi]

Missed Ring33 posting updating on News regarding to JLD

A suggestion to Moderator


TS be given the "feature" to delete posting he deems not appropriate or provoking

[JAFCO]

Missed Ring33 posting updating on News regarding to JLD

A suggestion to Moderator


TS be given the "feature" to delete posting he deems not appropriate or provoking

The other day I passed by chinese garden....it looks loke little india instead...can jld really be the next great place.....I also wonder why so many indian tenant these days....all the jobs really cant find talents to fill....the educational level higher than singapore? Its really unusual.

[Ling Ping]

Missed Ring33 posting updating on News regarding to JLD

A suggestion to Moderator


TS be given the "feature" to delete posting he deems not appropriate or provoking

In many forum, usually its the TS or the moderators themselves who will do the "spring cleaning".
I think skyscraper city is one of them.

btw, who are the moderators in this forum?

[Simi]

The other day I passed by chinese garden....it looks loke little india instead...can jld really be the next great place.....I also wonder why so many indian tenant these days....all the jobs really cant find talents to fill....the educational level higher than singapore? Its really unusual.

I felt a bit uneasy too pertaining to too many foreigners in our land, not only in Chinese Garden
but guess this is the way of life in a modern city where government are opening its immigration gate
when birth rate fall below the rate of replacing itself, therefore it is not unusual


Look at Europe, particularly in Sweden, France and Germany
Now these countries are having lots of troubles with the migrants
Just hope that it will not happen to Singapore

[teddybear]

Not a good idea because what if TS like Ringo33 posting "rubbish" and making slander and insulting remarks on others and yet he can carry on as he like just because he is the TS?

Missed Ring33 posting updating on News regarding to JLD

A suggestion to Moderator


TS be given the "feature" to delete posting he deems not appropriate or provoking

[Simi]

Not a good idea because what if TS like Ringo33 posting "rubbish" and making slander and insulting remarks on others and yet he can carry on as he like just because he is the TS?

I do not find his posting rubbish but rather unselfish sharing and informative ...
Many of his views may differ from a few here but that does not mean he is wrong
In a social forum, learn to agree to disagree and respect each other

[Ling Ping]

Not a good idea because what if TS like Ringo33 posting "rubbish" and making slander and insulting remarks on others and yet he can carry on as he like just because he is the TS?

During my short time in this forum, I have already seen you making several groundless comment which I find it hard to accept.

You mention to polo that ringo was a clone of someone in 2009. Who is that someone and how are you so sure they are the same person?

A few forummers here, include you, claim to know what ringo bought, the size of his apartment and also the psf he paid for it, and then call him a sucker. Where did you guys get all these information from?

Didnt you just make an insulting remarks yourself?

[Simi]

In many forum, usually its the TS or the moderators themselves who will do the "spring cleaning".
I think skyscraper city is one of them.

btw, who are the moderators in this forum?

Think the moderator is none other than the Owner of this Forum himself

Reporter2

in other forum that I had used to visit
The thread starter has this special feature to delete posting he or she thinks
are insidious

[teddybear]

People can have different views, but when he started the personal attack (which he did) without any basis and trying to put words into other people's mouth (and he can't show evidence to justify what he insisted), that is another story altogether. It means that person is a liar, and have no integrity and moral character, a scam-bag!

I do not find his posting rubbish but rather unselfish sharing and informative ...
Many of his views may differ from a few here but that does not mean he is wrong
In a social forum, learn to agree to disagree and respect each other