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    Shit! Medicine price going up too!
    Yup! Everything up up up!

  2. #242
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    Yup! Everything up up up!
    Not everything lah. SIBOR is down down down lah.

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    Safer than oil bubble?
    Safer than gold bubble?
    Safer than rice bubble?
    Safer than steel bubble?
    Safer than corn bubble?
    Safer ......
    Property is the best bet. It has proved so for the last two years and will continue to do so. Govt will not let this sector to fluctuate, because the stakeholder is the entire population of Singapore. The impact can be politically disasterous.

    I would never buy the scenario of up and down and then up again. It will only be one way ticket. Of course, it will take some breather along its journey to the peak but has no reason to go down and then move up again.

    Therefore, I urge all homeowners to hold on your units. The thousands sidelines eager buyers should have given you ample reason to believe that the long-term prospect of ppty in Singapore is very promising. Why let other make the profit if the profit is yours?

  4. #244
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    OH DEAR I MISSED OUT SELLING.....WHO CAN HELP ME?

    [QUOTE=Unregistered]Singapore home sales seen slumping to 5-year lows
    By Daryl Loo

    SINGAPORE, March 17 (Reuters) - Singapore homes sales in February almost halved from the previous month, and could slump this quarter to the lowest since the SARS epidemic in 2003 as surging inflation and global economic fears keep buyers at bay.

    The government on Monday said 170 private homes were sold in February, less than a tenth of the homes sold last August when Singapore was still in the midst of a two-year property upswing.

    The abrupt slowdown this year is hitting shares for property developers but could take some pressure off inflation that is at the highest level in 25 years.
    After January saw 316 homes sold, property analysts are predicting that total sales for the first three months of this year will be between 700-800 units, the weakest in five years.

    "The only two other periods when the Singapore residential market experienced such low sales volume were during the SARS period in the first quarter of 2003 when 427 new homes were sold, and during the Asian financial crisis in the fourth quarter of 1997 when 894 units were sold," said Li Hiaw Ho, research director of property consultancy CB Richard Ellis.

    So far the jury is out on how much the drop in demand has hit home prices. Private home prices in Singapore surged 31 percent last year to their highest in over ten years and near the peak of mid-1996 just before the Asian financial crisis.

    High-end homes, typically those priced at above S$1,800 ($1,302) per square foot, saw the greatest jump, while the increase was more moderate for homes in the mass market segment.

    But the price increase slowed in the fourth quarter as steps taken by the authorities to curb real estate market speculation took effect, including a move in October to bar developers from selling uncompleted homes on a deferred payment scheme.

    "The sales figures for February were stunningly low... Buyers are becoming very conservative, although prices seem to have held up," said Jones Lang LaSalle research head Chua Yang Liang.

    LAUNCH DELAYS

    Reflecting the cautious mood, some developers have delayed their property launches, evident in the 343 units put up for sale in February, against 410 units in January and 445 in December.

    KepLand, which is building the 221-unit Marina Bay Suites luxury apartments with Hong Kong Land and Cheung Kong, said in January that it would delay the project until the end of the Lunar New Year holiday in mid-February.
    "We're still waiting for instructions to launch," said Margaret Thean, executive director of property agency DTZ, which has been appointed to market the project.

    There have also been newspaper reports of property speculators who bought units last year with hopes of a speedy sale for a quick profit, but who are now being forced to sell at steep discounts due to the drop in demand. But it may not to be time to go bargain hunting just yet.

    "While anecdotal evidence of lower transacted prices from desperate speculators looking to liquidate their positions have yet to be fully recognised by the entire market, the risk of a downward spiral effect in residential prices remains," Morgan Stanley analyst Melissa Bon said in a report this month.

    "In addition, the bottoming out of private rental vacancies and likely peaking of rentals may put downward pressure on residential prices," she said.

    The U.S. brokerage has downgraded CityDev to "underweight" for its exposure to the Singapore home market, and expects prices in the mid to high-end sectors to drop 15 percent this year, compared to its previous expectations for a 15 percent rise.

    ABN AMRO analyst Fera Wirawan said homes catering to the mass market could still rise at least 5 percent as prices in this segment had not run up as much.

    "It's all about sentiments now. Buyers are holding off in anticipation of a price cut. Even if developers refuse to decrease the price, especially in the high end, they can't hold out for long if the volumes stagnant like this," she said. (Editing by Neil Chatterjee)QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=Unregistered]OH DEAR I MISSED OUT SELLING.....WHO CAN HELP ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Singapore home sales seen slumping to 5-year lows
    By Daryl Loo

    SINGAPORE, March 17 (Reuters) - Singapore homes sales in February almost halved from the previous month, and could slump this quarter to the lowest since the SARS epidemic in 2003 as surging inflation and global economic fears keep buyers at bay.

    The government on Monday said 170 private homes were sold in February, less than a tenth of the homes sold last August when Singapore was still in the midst of a two-year property upswing.

    The abrupt slowdown this year is hitting shares for property developers but could take some pressure off inflation that is at the highest level in 25 years.
    After January saw 316 homes sold, property analysts are predicting that total sales for the first three months of this year will be between 700-800 units, the weakest in five years.

    "The only two other periods when the Singapore residential market experienced such low sales volume were during the SARS period in the first quarter of 2003 when 427 new homes were sold, and during the Asian financial crisis in the fourth quarter of 1997 when 894 units were sold," said Li Hiaw Ho, research director of property consultancy CB Richard Ellis.

    So far the jury is out on how much the drop in demand has hit home prices. Private home prices in Singapore surged 31 percent last year to their highest in over ten years and near the peak of mid-1996 just before the Asian financial crisis.

    High-end homes, typically those priced at above S$1,800 ($1,302) per square foot, saw the greatest jump, while the increase was more moderate for homes in the mass market segment.

    But the price increase slowed in the fourth quarter as steps taken by the authorities to curb real estate market speculation took effect, including a move in October to bar developers from selling uncompleted homes on a deferred payment scheme.

    "The sales figures for February were stunningly low... Buyers are becoming very conservative, although prices seem to have held up," said Jones Lang LaSalle research head Chua Yang Liang.

    LAUNCH DELAYS

    Reflecting the cautious mood, some developers have delayed their property launches, evident in the 343 units put up for sale in February, against 410 units in January and 445 in December.

    KepLand, which is building the 221-unit Marina Bay Suites luxury apartments with Hong Kong Land and Cheung Kong, said in January that it would delay the project until the end of the Lunar New Year holiday in mid-February.
    "We're still waiting for instructions to launch," said Margaret Thean, executive director of property agency DTZ, which has been appointed to market the project.

    There have also been newspaper reports of property speculators who bought units last year with hopes of a speedy sale for a quick profit, but who are now being forced to sell at steep discounts due to the drop in demand. But it may not to be time to go bargain hunting just yet.

    "While anecdotal evidence of lower transacted prices from desperate speculators looking to liquidate their positions have yet to be fully recognised by the entire market, the risk of a downward spiral effect in residential prices remains," Morgan Stanley analyst Melissa Bon said in a report this month.

    "In addition, the bottoming out of private rental vacancies and likely peaking of rentals may put downward pressure on residential prices," she said.

    The U.S. brokerage has downgraded CityDev to "underweight" for its exposure to the Singapore home market, and expects prices in the mid to high-end sectors to drop 15 percent this year, compared to its previous expectations for a 15 percent rise.

    ABN AMRO analyst Fera Wirawan said homes catering to the mass market could still rise at least 5 percent as prices in this segment had not run up as much.

    "It's all about sentiments now. Buyers are holding off in anticipation of a price cut. Even if developers refuse to decrease the price, especially in the high end, they can't hold out for long if the volumes stagnant like this," she said. (Editing by Neil Chatterjee)
    Not to worry friend. Just wait another 10 years. By then it would come back up.

  6. #246
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    [QUOTE=Unregistered]OH DEAR I MISSED OUT SELLING.....WHO CAN HELP ME?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Singapore home sales seen slumping to 5-year lows
    By Daryl Loo

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    Why keeping posting the same almost-3-week-old news again and again?
    Why not post a 3-month-old or 3-year-old news?

    Anyway, price increased by 4.2%. No old news can change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    OH DEAR I MISSED OUT SELLING.....WHO CAN HELP ME?



    Not to worry friend. Just wait another 10 years. By then it would come back up.
    Why reply to your same almost-3-week-old news?
    Why not post a 3-month-old or 3-year-old news?

    Anyway, price increased by 4.2%. No old news can change that.
    Since price has not went down, mentioning coming back up is irrelevant.

  8. #248
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    OH DEAR I MISSED OUT SELLING.....WHO CAN HELP ME?
    Thanks for the advice.
    I have just seen one sour grape in action above.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Why keeping posting the same almost-3-week-old news again and again?
    Why not post a 3-month-old or 3-year-old news?

    Anyway, price increased by 4.2%. No old news can change that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    ...................
    And also, let me warn you ... there is a bunch of people lurking around here in this forum called "sour grapes". I don't know where they come from, but they like to spread lies and misinformation about the property market.

    Since late last year, they have been constantly claiming that the property market has crashed, and whenever some people pointed out that the latest official data ddd not reflect that, these "sour grapes" would say that they were referring to the "latest" transactions which have not yet been captured by URA.

    October turned into November, November turned into December ... February turned into March, but even when the URA data shows that prices have gone up by 4.2% in Q1 2008, these "sour grapes" denied it.

    You have to be careful of such people, I can tell you they are up to no good and like to bullshit.
    ...............

  9. #249
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    Why keeping posting the same almost-3-week-old news again and again?
    Why not post a 3-month-old or 3-year-old news?

    Anyway, price increased by 4.2%. No old news can change that.
    Price may have increased 4%. Rice increased 50%. Oil increased 25%. So what is 4%. But scary is that Sales not increasing. Didnt you read about speculators panicking? Wait I post for you. Read again.

    Singapore home sales seen slumping to 5-year lows
    By Daryl Loo

    SINGAPORE, March 17 (Reuters) - Singapore homes sales in February almost halved from the previous month, and could slump this quarter to the lowest since the SARS epidemic in 2003 as surging inflation and global economic fears keep buyers at bay.

    .............................There have also been newspaper reports of property speculators who bought units last year with hopes of a speedy sale for a quick profit, but who are now being forced to sell at steep discounts due to the drop in demand. But it may not to be time to go bargain hunting just yet.

    .....................................................................
    "In addition, the bottoming out of private rental vacancies and likely peaking of rentals may put downward pressure on residential prices," she said.

    The U.S. brokerage has downgraded CityDev to "underweight" for its exposure to the Singapore home market, and expects prices in the mid to high-end sectors to drop 15 percent this year, compared to its previous expectations for a 15 percent rise.

    ABN AMRO analyst Fera Wirawan said homes catering to the mass market could still rise at least 5 percent as prices in this segment had not run up as much.

    "It's all about sentiments now. Buyers are holding off in anticipation of a price cut. Even if developers refuse to decrease the price, especially in the high end, they can't hold out for long if the volumes stagnant like this," she said. (Editing by Neil Chatterjee)

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    Property is the best bet. It has proved so for the last two years and will continue to do so. Govt will not let this sector to fluctuate, because the stakeholder is the entire population of Singapore. The impact can be politically disasterous.

    I would never buy the scenario of up and down and then up again. It will only be one way ticket. Of course, it will take some breather along its journey to the peak but has no reason to go down and then move up again.

    Therefore, I urge all homeowners to hold on your units. The thousands sidelines eager buyers should have given you ample reason to believe that the long-term prospect of ppty in Singapore is very promising. Why let other make the profit if the profit is yours?
    Help the owners service loan la

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Why keeping posting the same almost-3-week-old news again and again?
    Why not post a 3-month-old or 3-year-old news?

    Anyway, price increased by 4.2%. No old news can change that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Price may have increased 4%. Rice increased 50%. Oil increased 25%. So what is 4%. But scary is that Sales not increasing. Didnt you read about speculators panicking? Wait I post for you. Read again.
    Don't post old news here.

    4.2% can be measured. So the news reported it.

    You mean speculators would ask the papers to tell everyone that they panic?
    Don't come and bullshit us.

    Are you saying rice speculators panic? Oil speculator panic? ....

  12. #252
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    Help the owners service loan la
    Help already.
    I lower the SIBOR rate for him.

  13. #253
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    Price may have increased 4%. Rice increased 50%. Oil increased 25%. So what is 4%. But scary is that Sales not increasing. Didnt you read about speculators panicking? Wait I post for you. Read again.
    Thanks for the advice.
    I have just seen one sour grape in action above.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    ...................
    And also, let me warn you ... there is a bunch of people lurking around here in this forum called "sour grapes". I don't know where they come from, but they like to spread lies and misinformation about the property market.

    Since late last year, they have been constantly claiming that the property market has crashed, and whenever some people pointed out that the latest official data ddd not reflect that, these "sour grapes" would say that they were referring to the "latest" transactions which have not yet been captured by URA.

    October turned into November, November turned into December ... February turned into March, but even when the URA data shows that prices have gone up by 4.2% in Q1 2008, these "sour grapes" denied it.

    You have to be careful of such people, I can tell you they are up to no good and like to bullshit.
    ...............

  14. #254
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    Quote Originally Posted by toaler
    HDB and private property prices up in Q1 flash estimates
    Channel NewsAsia
    01 April 2008 1345 hrs

    Private residential property prices in Singapore rose 4.2% in the first quarter this year, according to the latest preliminary estimates from the Urban Redevelopment Authority.

    The pace was slower than the 6.8% clip recorded in the fourth quarter of last year.

    On a quarter-on-quarter basis, the biggest rise in property prices for non-landed properties came from outside central region - up 4.8% in the January-March quarter compared with the October-December period.

    Properties in the prime districts of 9, 10 and 11, as well as the downtown area and Sentosa, rose 4.4% on quarter.

    Prices in the rest of the central region increased 3.9% in the first quarter from the previous three months.

    The preliminary estimates were based on transaction prices given in caveats lodged during the first 10 weeks of the quarter, as well as the number of new units sold.

    Meantime, the Housing and Development Board (HDB) said prices of HDB resale flats rose 3.4% in the January to March period over the previous three months. This was lower than the 5.7% increase in the fourth quarter.

    Both the URA and HDB will release final figures at the end of April.

    The URA said that as at 4th Quarter 2007, there are about 64,900 private residential units in the pipeline, of which about 56,100 new private housing units are expected to be completed between 2008 and 2011.

    There are also some 38,300 units that have yet to be put on sale by developers.

    As for the supply of government flats, the HDB said it had made available in the first quarter of this year some 1,100 new flats in two Build-To-Order (BTO) projects in Punggol and Yishun.

    It said that depending on demand, there could be another 5,000 new BTO flats in towns such as Punggol, Sengkang, Woodlands and Bukit Panjang.

    The total planned BTO supply of 6,100 new flats for January till September 2008 will surpass the annual BTO flat supply in 2007 and 2006.

    This new supply of flats will be in addition to those offered under Balloting Exercises for surplus replacement SERS and other flats, as well as the planned release of three Design-and-Build sites in Simei, Toa Payoh and Bedok with some 1,500 flats in the first half of 2008.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Alright, enough argument, gentlemen!
    We have had enough discussion ever since toaler started the thread with the above message.
    Let's move on to another thread.
    More discussions on the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    OH DEAR I MISSED OUT SELLING.....WHO CAN HELP ME?


    Why keeping posting the same almost-3-week-old news again and again?
    Why not post a 3-month-old or 3-year-old news?

    Anyway, price increased by 4.2%. No old news can change that.
    Never mind! If no buyer wants to pay the price then hold loh. Anyway, if I sell now I might never ever to buy it back again in the future. Imagine the sky high construction cost and land scarce in Singapore. I don't want to risk myself to be home less in Singapore.

    My civil servant friend told me that the 100% homeownership may soon become a history in Singapore. Going forward it will be very common sight for ppl to live in rental flat for life like most ppl in HK due to the lack of affordability.

    Remember, owning a house is still a big dream for many ppl in most country. Don't take thing for granted. No country can achieve the high level of homeownership like us nor any govt has to do it for you. Since the ppty prices are still within your reach, by all means grab it, before its too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered

    Never mind! If no buyer wants to pay the price then hold loh. Anyway, if I sell now I might never ever to buy it back again in the future. Imagine the sky high construction cost and land scarce in Singapore. I don't want to risk myself to be home less in Singapore.

    My civil servant friend told me that the 100% homeownership may soon become a history in Singapore. Going forward it will be very common sight for ppl to live in rental flat for life like most ppl in HK due to the lack of affordability.

    Remember, owning a house is still a big dream for many ppl in most country. Don't take thing for granted. No country can achieve the high level of homeownership like us nor any govt has to do it for you. Since the ppty prices are still within your reach, by all means grab it, before its too late.
    Are you the same guy who works in Pioneer Circle?

  17. #257
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Are you the same guy who works in Pioneer Circle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr funny
    HDB, private apartment rentals set to rise

    By Wong Siew Ying, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 03 April 2008 0050 hrs


    SINGAPORE : Rentals for HDB and mass market private apartments are set to rise in the coming years, with more foreign workers heading for Singapore.

    Property agents expect rents to climb by about 10 percent this year.

    They say HDB flat-owners could gain from the spike in demand.

    Singapore's two integrated resorts will be ready in the next two years.

    Besides attracting more tourists, they are also expected to draw thousands of foreign workers to the city state.

    Resorts World at Sentosa says it will be hiring 10,000 people directly.

    And 40 percent of these jobs will go to foreigners, in view of the manpower crunch in Singapore.

    Property agents say some of the foreign workers, especially higher-ranking staff, will have the means to purchase private residential properties.

    But they expect the bulk of the workers to tap into the rental market for their housing needs. And this will push prices up in the short-term as supply plays catch up.

    On average, monthly rentals for private apartments range between $2,500 and $3,500 dollars.

    This may be too much for some workers.

    Mohamed Ismail, CEO of PropNex, said: "The public housing becomes next best alternative where today people are still able to rent at $1,500 to $2,000. I expect this trend to continue, as far as estates that will have a greater demand ... such as those in Telok Blangah, Bukit Merah, Bishan, Toa Payoh. Anything that is not too far away from town or to the integrated resorts will definitely have greater take-up rates."

    Industry players say private residential properties currently enjoy a rental yield of some 5 percent, while that of HDB flats is between 8 and 10 percent - among the highest ever in Singapore for public housing.

    All in, agents expects rentals to climb by some 10 percent in the next two years. - CNA/de
    Prices going up?
    Rental also going up.
    Huat Ah!!!!!

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    Subprime spells gloom, not doom, for Asia banks
    Reuters
    Singapore and Tokyo, Japan
    Friday, 4 April 2008

    Investors may have a nervous eye on Asia after the subprime crisis tore through the United States and Europe, but while the region's banks will see losses on risky investments, they won't be facing doomsday.

    Investors have punished Asian financial stocks, concerned that somewhere in the region a big bank may be at the edge of collapse. Yet lenders are unlikely to be lacerated by the losses that hit UBS, Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch and others, analysts say.

    Investments related to troubled United States housing loans have cost global financial institutions as much as US$215 billion (S$298 billion) as of December, but less than 7% of that has come in Asia, according to estimates by Japan's regulatory Financial Services Agency.

    'They are nowhere near as embroiled as the large US and European banks,' said Mr Jason Rogers, a credit analyst at Barclays Capital in Singapore who looks at banks across Asia.

    'Their exposure mainly comes through their investment portfolios, as opposed to part of their core business. They were not in the practice of slicing and dicing and underwriting the US RMBS-type products,' he said.

    Mr Rogers said Mizuho Financial Group was one of the only Asian banks to attempt to arrange products such as residential mortgage-backed securities (RMBS).

    RMBSs and other structured instruments such as collateralised debt obligations are securities backed by a pool of loans or bonds with differing risk profiles but which plunged in value when the US housing market tanked.

    Mizuho, Japan's second-largest lender, is now one of the region's biggest subprime casualties, so far reporting 345 billion yen (S$4.6 billion) in losses. Still, that's just a sliver of the US$37.4 billion written down by UBS and Merrill's US$24 billion write-down.

    Mizuho expects to report a net profit of 480 billion yen for the year that ended in March. By contrast, UBS reported on Tuesday a net loss of US$12 billion for the first quarter alone.

    Merrill has turned to outside assistance for capital relief, including a US$1.2 billion injection from Mizuho.

    Watching exposure
    Asian banks rated by Standard & Poor's have a total exposure of about US$34 billion to structured instruments, reckons Mr Ritesh Maheshwari, a credit analyst with the ratings agency.

    'Considering that the total shareholder equity of these banks is nearly 10 times this amount, the likely write-downs can be easily absorbed,' Mr Maheshwari said in a note to clients.

    Japan's subprime-related exposure is estimated at 1.5 trillion yen by the Financial Services Agency, less than half of what UBS has so far written down.

    Yet investors remain largely unconvinced. Tokyo's banking index has fallen 30% in the last 12 months, and Singapore's index of financial stocks is off about 11%.

    Both have fared worse than their broader markets.

    Shares of Bank of China have fallen about 11% over the same period while the FTSE index of global banks has lost about 18%.

    Bank of China, so far the hardest hit among big Chinese banks, said it held US$5 billion worth of asset-backed securities that were related to the subprime market.

    A lot of investor frustration is due to poor disclosure, because Asian banks don't need to be as precise as their US rivals when revealing subprime holdings, said Ms Kristine Li, banking analyst at KBC Securities in Tokyo.

    'Many banks say, 'We have this much in RMBS, but they are all triple-A rated so it's safe'. What do you say? You don't know if it's safe or not,' Ms Li said.

    Just holding on
    Some banks, such as Tokyo's Mizuho have been aggressive about marking down their holdings, while others, such as Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group are taking a wait-and-see approach, said Mr Graeme Knowd, banking analyst for CLSA Asia-Pacific Markets in Tokyo.

    Mr Knowd is particularly cautious about MUFG, Japan's largest bank.

    'When the problem moves from subprime to just other stuff, they have more than anyone else (in Japan),' he said, referring to an estimated 3 trillion yen parked in structured credit products outside of Japan.

    And thanks to the subprime-inspired market downturn, even lenders with no direct exposure to US mortgage products are being squeezed.

    Resona Holdings, Japan's fourth-largest bank, said it would miss its fourth-quarter revenue target due to worse-than-expected sales of investment trusts.

    The bank, which relies heavily on its retail operations, said sales of investment trusts - products similar to mutual funds - fell about 40% in February due to poor market performance.

    At a recent news conference, the bank's chairman, Mr Eiji Hosoya, might have been speaking for banks across the region when he made a glum prediction.

    'The next business year will likely be even tougher.'

  20. #260
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    Interesting analysis from Singapore expat forum. What do you guys say? Any views?



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: Singapore Property Going Down The Tubes?

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    I sent my buddy an e-mail asking if it was a good time to buy property in Singapore...

    He's a Hong Kong based Asia property analyst for a small successful private investment bank.
    He sent me this....(don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger.)

    Quote:
    Well...I would wait at least another 6 months to a year.

    We told clients and investors to sell all Singapore holdings (property, stocks and everything else) in June 2007. We determined that prices would never, ever be higher and were predicting a 15% drop in pricing by March 2008 and 25% drop by June 2008.

    Rationale was simple and not rocket science.

    #1. There was no demand for housing when the boom started.
    The vacancy rates on existing housing were above New York, London, Hong Kong, Tokyo and other major urban market levels. A Singapore property boom made no sense at all.

    #2. Singapore GDP...nice impressive numbers. But the growth was 99% construction related. There is no economic growth when the construction boom ends and those numbers are subtracted from the total.

    #3. The existing luxury housing vacancy levels in Singapore were adequate to fill the needs of Singaporeans and any possible influx of new senior executives for the next 5 years. Thus, there was no demand for executive luxury housing in the market.

    #4. Value for money on Singapore property for foreign investors is not good when compared to other projected growth economies. (several factors are weighed including psf, quality of workmanship, size of economy, projected growth of economy, lifestyle and culture of the market.)

    #4. The targeted future population numbers of Singapore are pie in the sky and completely without substance. Singaporeans are not having kids and the demand for jobs in Singapore will be service led lower paying jobs to supply the planned tourism developments. Non of these new inhabitants will be buying or renting condo's, especially in the high-end. And tourists visit, they don't buy or rent.

    #5. Singapore is not a supply/demand driven economy. It is a small, managed economy. Thus, the property development plans were lofty, risky, and not based on future real supply/demand realities.

    #6. There is a lack of real, transparent, objective information available in the Singapore market about the Singapore market. This leads to investors belief in hype and speculation rather than economic principles.

    #7. Global money supplies and markets are taking a beating and will continue to take a beating. The second call on the sub prime products happens this June so more big losses are expected. This will stall or even damage the Singapore economy.

    We expect distress sales in the property market to start soon. The high-end rental market is non-existent and the higher % of all unit sales were high-end investment property, speculator driven.
    These buyers need "wealthy" renters to subsidize the million dollar mortgages. Most locals cannot afford the rents the market is demanding.
    Surveys of multinational companies and banks have indicated that there is no boat-load of expats with a big housing allowance arriving at the Singapore port anytime soon. The new owner is now stuck with 100% of a very expensive monthly mortgage.

    Here is an example of one major high-end development I'm following to prove the point. These are some very telling numbers.
    600+ units launched
    20+ remaining at $2,000 per square foot via the developer.
    100+ units previously sold are now for sale privately less than 7 months after launch for $1,300 to $1,600 per square foot.
    The reason...no rental income.
    That tells me that property owners are willing to admit that market prices are down 25%+ already. Unfortunately, even at a 25% discount, there are no buyers.

    Existing Singapore residents are keeping the rental market buoyant due to the fact they sold their old places and are waiting for the prices to drop...OR...waiting for their new unit to be completed. These people are relatively small in overall numbers and definitely not going to rent high end luxury units. They are driving HDB, middle priced housing rents up right now. They are also demanding 12 month leases or even less if they can get it proving that they are waiting to move or sitting on the sidelines waiting for prices to drop.

    The Singapore property market is massively oversupplied today and more units are on the way. This is not good. This is should be extremely troublesome to anyone who owns property anywhere in that market. The potential valuation losses in the property market could be enormous, especially at the high-end. Overall prices could sink well below SARS levels and this could happen within 6 months to a year.

    The short lived property boom was very much like a pyramid scheme.
    It was all hype and no substance.
    The first guys in are now smoking big cigars.
    The last guys in are now left holding the ashtray.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Excellent post and thanks for this , I am cancelling my plans to buy property this year!!!!!!!
    I HAVE CANCELLED MY PLANS. SOON WILL BE 40% LOWER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    I HAVE CANCELLED MY PLANS. SOON WILL BE 40% LOWER.
    [size=+2]Ok Lah this post really saved thousands of dollars for me.Hope it does for others too[size=+2]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    I HAVE CANCELLED MY PLANS. SOON WILL BE 40% LOWER.
    After 40% lower, it will be lowered to another 50%

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    Economy Loses 80,000 Jobs, Worse Than Expected
    By Reuters | 04 Apr 2008 | 08:32 AM ET

    US employers cut payrolls for a third month in a row in March, slashing 80,000 jobs for the biggest monthly job decline in five years as the economy headed into a downturn, government data on Friday showed.


    The Labor Department revised the first two months of the year's job losses to a total of 52,000 from a previous estimate of 85,000. The March unemployment rate jumped to 5.1 percent from 4.8 percent, the highest since a matching rate in September 2005.

    The March job report was more bleak than expected.

    Economists polled ahead of the report forecast a decline of 60,000 in non-farm payrolls and a rise in the unemployment rate to 5 percent.

    "It's not a good number, clearly," said David Bianco, chief US equity strategist at UBS. "But the market has been braced for a bad number. Almost every investor equity and otherwise would acknowledge that we are in a recession but we still think it is a mild recession and we are going to have pretty good profit conditions in the S&P 500 for this quarter and for the rest of the year."

    During the first quarter of this year job losses averaged 77,000 a month, compared to average monthly gains of 76,000 in the last half of 2007, according to Keith Hall, Bureau of Labor Statistics Commissioner.

    Job losses were widespread during the month, with the biggest losses in the construction and manufacturing sectors.

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    HDB and private property prices up in Q1 flash estimates
    Channel NewsAsia
    1 April 2008 1345 hrs

    Private residential property prices in Singapore rose 4.2 percent in the first quarter this year, according to the latest preliminary estimates from the Urban Redevelopment Authority.

    The pace was slower than the 6.8 percent clip recorded in the fourth quarter of last year.

    On a quarter-on-quarter basis, the biggest rise in property prices for non-landed properties came from outside central region - up 4.8 percent in the January-March quarter compared with the October-December period.

    Properties in the prime districts of 9, 10 and 11, as well as the downtown area and Sentosa, rose 4.4 percent on quarter.

    Prices in the rest of the central region increased 3.9 percent in the first quarter from the previous three months.

    The preliminary estimates were based on transaction prices given in caveats lodged during the first 10 weeks of the quarter, as well as the number of new units sold.

    Meantime, the Housing and Development Board (HDB) said prices of HDB resale flats rose 3.4 percent in the January to March period over the previous three months. This was lower than the 5.7 percent increase in the fourth quarter.

    Both the URA and HDB will release final figures at the end of April.

    The URA said that as at 4th Quarter 2007, there are about 64,900 private residential units in the pipeline, of which about 56,100 new private housing units are expected to be completed between 2008 and 2011.

    There are also some 38,300 units that have yet to be put on sale by developers.

    As for the supply of government flats, the HDB said it had made available in the first quarter of this year some 1,100 new flats in two Build-To-Order (BTO) projects in Punggol and Yishun.

    It said that depending on demand, there could be another 5,000 new BTO flats in towns such as Punggol, Sengkang, Woodlands and Bukit Panjang.

    The total planned BTO supply of 6,100 new flats for January till September 2008 will surpass the annual BTO flat supply in 2007 and 2006.

    This new supply of flats will be in addition to those offered under Balloting Exercises for surplus replacement SERS and other flats, as well as the planned release of three Design-and-Build sites in Simei, Toa Payoh and Bedok with some 1,500 flats in the first half of 2008. - CNA/sf
    Of course go up lah.
    Economy is surging ahead with full employment.
    Everything is good man!

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    Of course go up lah.
    Economy is surging ahead with full employment.
    Everything is good man!
    Yes only property going down down...everything else up mah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Of course go up lah.
    Economy is surging ahead with full employment.
    Everything is good man!
    How do you know economy is surging ahead?
    Anyhow guess right?

    Anyway, many economists got it wrong but you are right.

    Quote Originally Posted by AFP

    Singapore's GDP Rebounds By 16.9% In Q1
    MAS moves to curb inflation as growth rebounds

    Agence France-Presse
    Singapore
    Thursday, 10 April 2008

    Singapore's central bank unexpectedly further tightened monetary policy on Thursday, pushing the Singapore dollar to a record high against the U.S. dollar, in a move aimed at keeping a lid on soaring prices.

    Singapore's economy grew at an annualised, seasonally adjusted rate of 16.9% in the first quarter, beating economists' expectations, government data showed on Thursday, after a surprise 4.8% contraction in the fourth quarter of 2007.

    The data beat a median forecast from economists polled by Reuters for growth of 11.5% because of a recovery in pharmaceutical and electronics manufacturing.

    "The GDP figures were stronger than what the market had predicted and that gave the Monetary Authority confidence to tighten the policy," said Joseph Tan, an economist at Fortis.

    "Strength of GDP quarter-on-quarter came from domestic sources. Where we go from here is a step in time approach but the one-up shift of the band, as opposed to the steepening of the Singapore dollar, shows that MAS recognises inflation is an imminent danger."

    The Monetary Authority of Singapore conducts policy through the exchange rate, steering the Singapore dollar within a secret trade-weighted band against a basket of currencies, rather than by adjusting interest rates.

    Growth Support

    "Against backdrop of continuing external and domestic cost pressures, an upward shift of the policy band at this point will help to moderate inflation going forward, while providing support for sustainable growth in the economy," the central bank said in a twice-yearly monetary policy statement.

    "MAS will therefore re-centre the exchange rate policy band at the prevailing level of the S$NEER. There will be no change to the slope or width of the policy band."

    The Singapore dollar hit a record high, up 0.9% on the news to 1.3683 per U.S. dollar. The currency has gained around 5% this year.

    Ten out of the 12 economists polled by Reuters had expected the MAS to refrain from tightening monetary policy due to concerns about slower economic growth.

    The other two had expected the MAS to tighten policy to fight inflation, which stood at 6.5% in February. In January it hit 6.6%, the highest since March 1982.

    The MAS said it expected inflation in the upper half of its 4.5% to 5.5% forecast range this year.

    Singapore is one of the first Asian countries to report GDP data each quarter. The health of its exports is seen by analysts as a barometer of demand for Asian goods.

    Despite concern about slower global growth, most central banks in Asia have refrained from easing monetary policy due to high inflation.

    Some analysts said a stronger Singapore dollar would further cut demand for the island's exports by making them more expensive at a time when demand in the key U.S. market is weakening.

    They also said a stronger Singapore dollar may not be as effective as before in reining in inflation because domestic factors such as a tight labour market, high wages and elevated property prices were factors as well.

    The MAS tightened policy slightly at its last meeting in October as asset prices spiralled higher.

    Singapore's economic growth is largely fuelled by manufacturing of products such as electronics, pharmaceuticals and oil rigs. However, the economy also relies increasingly on tourism, financial services and construction.

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    How do you know economy is surging ahead?
    Anyhow guess right?

    Anyway, many economists got it wrong but you are right.
    Who cares! As long there is growth. 16.9% you know?

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    Who cares! As long there is growth. 16.9% you know?
    Wow! So high!

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    Wow! So high!
    Moron read the details before jumping.

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    Lehman Says It Liquidated Three Investment Funds

    By Ambereen Choudhury

    April 10 (Bloomberg) -- Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., the fourth-largest U.S. securities firm, said it liquidated three investment funds because of ``market disruptions.''

    The funds' assets, valued at $1 billion on Feb. 29, were taken onto Lehman's balance sheet, the New-York-based firm said in a Securities and Exchange Commission filing. The firm also bought ``certain deteriorated assets,'' with a value of $800 million, from other unidentified funds, Lehman said.

    ``The funds used the cash received from the company to either redeem investors in the funds or make alternative asset investments,'' Lehman said in the filing yesterday.

    More than 45 of the world's biggest banks, including Citigroup Inc. and UBS AG, have recorded a combined $232 billion in asset writedowns and credit losses since the beginning of 2007, including reserves set aside for bad loans. Falling U.S. house prices and rising delinquencies may lead to $565 billion in residential mortgage-market losses, the International Monetary Fund said in its annual Global Financial Stability report on April 8. Total losses, including those tied to commercial real estate, may reach $945 billion, the fund said.

    Lehman was little changed at $40.52 by 11:26 a.m. in Frankfurt trading, after closing at $40.54 in New York yesterday. The stock has dropped 38 percent this year.

    The liquidation of the funds was reported by the Wall Street Journal earlier today.

    Further Writedowns Seen

    Lehman may write down $2 billion in the second quarter and will face ``difficult'' market conditions this year, according to analysts at Deutsche Bank AG.

    ``While liquidity seems okay, we continue to expect more writedowns to equity and tougher revenues this year,'' analysts led by New York-based Mike Mayo wrote in a research note yesterday. Deutsche Bank rates the firm ``buy.''

    Revenue at Lehman will decline to about the level of 2005, when it totaled $14.6 billion, Mayo wrote. The 2007 net revenue was $19.3 billion. Lehman plans to reduce risk by selling 20 percent of its $75 billion in mortgage assets and cut leverage by the same amount, according to Deutsche Bank.

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