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    March 17, 2008

    En-bloc sales eroding our 'sense of kampung'


    PLEASE refer to last Friday's article, 'Some Gillman Heights owners fight on for their homes'.

    Gillman Heights is an excellent example of what is happening on the collective property sale scene today:

    Minority owners fight desperately to keep their homes;

    Minority and majority owners find replacement value like-for-like, in terms of location, size and price, does not result in a win-win situation for sellers; and

    Collective property sales create social tension in private housing estates, which erodes the fabric of society and our 'sense of kampung'.

    The bitter jeers and ugly scenes reported recently at the Bayshore Park extraordinary general meeting, where the minority were not allowed a proper hearing, are becoming typical of collective property sale meetings across the island: Neighbour is pitted against neighbour.

    The increasing litigation that accompanies virtually all recent sales attempts is a symptom of a sickness from which society needs relief. This, coupled with an increasing awareness that, in Singapore, your home is not really your home and can be taken from you by your neighbours. All these factors erode our sense of home and innate security.

    Finally, many sellers realise too late that, after they have signed on the dotted line, what they thought would be a windfall is actually a shortfall. It takes two to four years to get sales proceeds - by which time the market has negated profits and resulted in sellers having to downgrade or take a loan to pay for their replacement home. The dislocation to the elderly is especially poignant.

    What price will we pay for eroding our sense of kampung? What price have we paid already?

    Susan Prior (Ms)

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    Sense of kampung already long gone when HDB bulldoze the real kampungs 40 years ago to make way for pigeon holes.When you have kampungs you 've got all kinds of communal issues.Plz go to Indonesia or Malaysia or Thailand if you miss the sense of kampungs.This is 21st century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think
    Sense of kampung already long gone when HDB bulldoze the real kampungs 40 years ago to make way for pigeon holes.When you have kampungs you 've got all kinds of communal issues.Plz go to Indonesia or Malaysia or Thailand if you miss the sense of kampungs.This is 21st century.
    She is stressing on the VALUES of society over greed. If you can't understand her meaning then maybe you should educate yourself.

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    Value of society from kampungs.This era is gone.Kaput.Now we have kiasi and kiasu spirit.

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    kampong+ urban slum , not quite the formula for a global city....

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    kampong+ urban slum , not quite the formula for a global city....
    The estates targeted for en bloc are not slum. They are situated in good location. That's why the developers are interested in them. These estates, 20 years, 30 years old are generally good structually. All is needed is good maintenance and up grading periodically. This is what the sinking fund for. It is more sensible for owners to top up the sinking fund for upgrading than to trade it cheaply for less attractive location andsmaller size apartments.

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    En-bloc is tired. Due to heavy work for more than a year now, its reaching

    recouperating cycle. The recovery period will be in a few years time and will

    be fully recharge. Happy holidays.

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    Wow.. Singaporeans are so literal. "Sense of kampung" is different from "kampung" in its literal sense. She refers to the sense of community that kampungs used to have, the "kampung spirit" which binds neighbours together.

    Does that even exist in Singapore anymore? Is that why it's so easy to sell your home?

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    March 20, 2008

    GOING EN BLOC

    Sense of kampung in condos overstated


    WITH reference to Ms Susan Prior's letter on Monday ('En bloc sales eroding our 'sense of kampung'), I wish to point out that in a kampung, you can walk up to a neighbour's home and peer through the open door and windows to strike up a conversation.

    It is a place where children can run from one house to another and where one can take temporary shelter when caught in a sudden downpour.

    Can you duplicate this openness and fraternity in large, multi-storey private housing estates like Gillman Heights and Bayshore Park where closed doors, grilled gates and windows with drawn curtains are the norm? Obviously not.

    The kampung era is long gone. The world has moved on. An en bloc development allows old estates to be redeveloped and not degenerate into slums like in many other countries.

    It is a better alternative than the compulsory acquisitions during those kampung days, when compensations were a pittance.

    Also, one should move out of this kampung mentality and learn to make new friends while keeping the old.

    This sense of kampung being eroded by en bloc sales is being overplayed by a dissenting few. The fact that the majority are willing to sell says much - that many are no longer enamoured of this kampung sentiment.

    Lau Chee Kian

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    Right to hold property guaranteed by law


    I REFER to Monday's letter, 'En bloc sales eroding our 'sense of kampung', in which Ms Susan Prior has stated that minority owners have to fight desperately to keep their homes. She has also said that in Singapore, your home is not really your home and can be taken from you by your neighbours.

    Article 12(1) of the Singapore Constitution states that all persons are equal before the law and entitled to the equal protection of the law.

    The right to acquire, hold and dispose of property is enshrined in the Constitution. 'To acquire' means to become the owner. Unless there is a transfer of property to another or vesting and divesting of property, there cannot be said to be any acquisition of property. The acquisition must be through legal means. An usurper of another's property cannot justify his acquisition in law and is not protected either by Article 9, which protects liberty, or Article 12.

    The term 'to hold' means to possess the property and enjoy the benefits which are ordinarily attached to the ownership, including its management. Your neighbour should not be able to sell your property which you have acquired. 'To dispose' means to transfer, assign or sell the property. The power to dispose of a property follows from the power to hold property.

    The power to acquire, hold and dispose property is a 'liberty' that is protected by law.

    If Article 12 (2) does not restrict the State from imposing unreasonable restrictions on the enjoyment of property, it would reduce the protection offered by the Constitution against an abuse of power by the State against a citizen's rights that are protected by the Constitution.

    The word property in Article 12 (2) may not cover a mere contractual right for which a proper action is a suit for damages. Ms Prior's fears that her home is not really her home and can be taken from her by her neighbours may not be strictly accurate.

    K.S. Rajah

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