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    Default Landlord add no value to society?

    Tax rule on property traders lacks clarity
    I have been investing my savings in residential properties, earning rental income and making capital gains, thanks to a buoyant property market. Last year, I was shocked to find that the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore (Iras) had taxed my capital gains from my property investments as far back as 2006. I was under the impression that capital gains from real estate investments in Singapore are tax-exempt.

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    What do u feel about comment that "Landlords like Mr Yeo has a very comfortable existence while contributing almost no value to society. A sweeper sweeps the floor, a mechanic fixes equipments, an accountant make sure our financial system is sound. While a landlord basically taxes another person work, value adding ZERO."?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JNSYN View Post
    Tax rule on property traders lacks clarity
    I have been investing my savings in residential properties, earning rental income and making capital gains, thanks to a buoyant property market. Last year, I was shocked to find that the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore (Iras) had taxed my capital gains from my property investments as far back as 2006. I was under the impression that capital gains from real estate investments in Singapore are tax-exempt.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/premium/...arity-20140218

    What do u feel about comment that "Landlords like Mr Yeo has a very comfortable existence while contributing almost no value to society. A sweeper sweeps the floor, a mechanic fixes equipments, an accountant make sure our financial system is sound. While a landlord basically taxes another person work, value adding ZERO."?
    Landlord definitely have value. If we ever ask who is the BIGEST Landlord in Singapore

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    Add no value to economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemstone View Post
    Add no value to economy.
    services generated from residential dwellings form part of GDP. How can that not be considered as value?

    Think about GDP = C + I + G + X - M. Housing investment comes under I.

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    In order for you to be a landlord, you need to spend less than you make. With the saving over the years you pay the deposit and loan the rest from the Bank.

    Job created by you - Banker, teller, security guards, construction,.... Loan from the Bank are created from the air (just key into the computer system and the money is created) than you need to carry on spend less than you make a month to pay the loan.

    Job created by staying in your property - Cleaner, maintenance worker, service provider......... Years later, due to the creation of money, the property you buy appreciated and you are able to cash out and buy another property and you became a Landlord. Along the way you help create lot of job but there are those who spend all their money and did not buy property start to become jealous and say " Landlord add no value to society ".

    In 1988 I spend less than I earn and buy a 4 room HDB.
    In 1995 I sold my 4 room HDB and buy a 5 room HDB and HDB give me a cheque of SGD 180,000.
    In 2006 I bought a 2 Bedroom @ Southbank for SGD 535,000 and the rest are history........

    Over the years I have created lot of job but nobody thank me.
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    All those people that shout landlords add no value to society will kena big big later.

    A landlord pays taxes and where does the tax goes to ?

    A landlord spends money in the economy supporting economic activities and who are the workers of these companies generating the activities?

    I tell you, will kena big big these cannot make it educated cow peh cow bu middle class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack21trader View Post
    All those people that shout landlords add no value to society will kena big big later.

    A landlord pays taxes and where does the tax goes to ?

    A landlord spends money in the economy supporting economic activities and who are the workers of these companies generating the activities?

    I tell you, will kena big big these cannot make it educated cow peh cow bu middle class.
    Just look at those Cow Peh Cow Bu about high property prices a few years ago, what is happening to their own property prices now?

    Good Luck, that is all uncle can help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack21trader View Post
    Just look at those Cow Peh Cow Bu about high property prices a few years ago, what is happening to their own property prices now?

    Good Luck, that is all uncle can help.
    The rich will always be richer. This is a fact.

    Property market provides a gateway for the middle class to enter into this class of society.

    But you know what? The cow peh cow bu guys just blew it for all of you.

    You will remain outside the gate long long while eyes open big big and watch the rich continue to get richer via their businesses and investments. At the same time, the gate is NO LONGER there.

    Next time see people earn money, just SHUT THE BIG MOUTH and learn to follow. But I think no more next time liao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack21trader View Post
    The rich will always be richer. This is a fact.

    Property market provides a gateway for the middle class to enter into this class of society.

    But you know what? The cow peh cow bu guys just blew it for all of you.

    You will remain outside the gate long long while eyes open big big and watch the rich continue to get richer via their businesses and investments. At the same time, the gate is NO LONGER there.

    Next time see people earn money, just SHUT THE BIG MOUTH and learn to follow. But I think no more next time liao.
    WOAAHAHAHHEHEHHEH

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack21trader View Post
    All those people that shout landlords add no value to society will kena big big later.

    A landlord pays taxes and where does the tax goes to ?

    A landlord spends money in the economy supporting economic activities and who are the workers of these companies generating the activities?

    I tell you, will kena big big these cannot make it educated cow peh cow bu middle class.
    You know the Cow Peh Cow Bu will sabotage who this time?

    I tell you, many law firms WILL close down starting this year.

    Good Luck, continue to cow peh cow bu to sabotage your own economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JNSYN View Post
    Tax rule on property traders lacks clarity
    I have been investing my savings in residential properties, earning rental income and making capital gains, thanks to a buoyant property market. Last year, I was shocked to find that the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore (Iras) had taxed my capital gains from my property investments as far back as 2006. I was under the impression that capital gains from real estate investments in Singapore are tax-exempt.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/premium/...arity-20140218

    What do u feel about comment that "Landlords like Mr Yeo has a very comfortable existence while contributing almost no value to society. A sweeper sweeps the floor, a mechanic fixes equipments, an accountant make sure our financial system is sound. While a landlord basically taxes another person work, value adding ZERO."?
    I kind of agree that being a landlord there is very little contribution to the society as compare what the landlord will gain. And I think what the governments are doing right now with all the cooling measures is to make sure the making easy money from property will become a thing of a past so that Singaporeans will have to focus their attention on their real job and careers instead of always thinking about becoming a landlord.
    "Never argue with an idiot, or he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

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    I tell you, if no more property market, uncle still got many shares and investments and businesses to sell for cash.

    But you leh ? How are u going to encash your only asset : property ?

    TALK SOMEMORE ?

    NEXT TIME JUST SHUT THE BIG MOUTH UP.

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    Look at this equation, idiots:

    NO LANDLORDS= NO SURVEYORS=NO LAW FIRMS=NO PROPERTY AGENTS= NO DEVELOPERS= NO CAR COMPANIES= NO SECONDHAND CAR DEALERS= NO SMALL FINANCE COMPANIES=NO CREDIT CARD COMPANIES= NO EXPENSIVE HAIR SALOONS=NO EXPENSIVE BRANDED GOODS SALOON=AFFECTING THE BIG BUSINESSES=AFFECTING YOUR OWN JOB=BURNING YOUR OWN BACKSIDE.

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    YOU THINK PEOPLE WILL SPEND MONEY ON BIG ITEMS USING THEIR WORK SALARY ?

    FAT HOPES.

    ONLY PEOPLE WHO EARN FROM INVESTMENT GAINS WILL SPEND MONEY ON LUXURY GOODS IN THE ECONOMY.

    IT WILL GO BACK TO BEFORE 1997.

    YOU THINK YOU CAN RESTART THE ENGINE TO CATCH UP CHINA AFTER YOU STALLED IT ?

    FAT HOPES.

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    Couldn't agree more bj sifu!
    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack21trader View Post
    The rich will always be richer. This is a fact.

    Property market provides a gateway for the middle class to enter into this class of society.

    But you know what? The cow peh cow bu guys just blew it for all of you.

    You will remain outside the gate long long while eyes open big big and watch the rich continue to get richer via their businesses and investments. At the same time, the gate is NO LONGER there.

    Next time see people earn money, just SHUT THE BIG MOUTH and learn to follow. But I think no more next time liao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leesg123 View Post
    Couldn't agree more bj sifu!
    Thanks for ur support, you r the best, good brother

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    The world cannot function if everyone is rich.
    "Never argue with an idiot, or he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

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    Then, people could also ask, Engineers contribute greatly to society, but their pay is like 10% of the golden peanuts a year only!

    Do Fund Managers contribute to society? What if all fund managers disappear from earth, will we die?

    Similarly if all private wealth managers (like casey anton) disappear from earth, will life on earth stop function as normal?

    Compare that to if all engineers disappear from earth, can the trains, buses, airplanes, ships, cars, vans still run and the world still go on without big hicup and life on earth still function like normal?

    What if all farmers disappear from earth?

    What if the President of a democratic country disappear, will the country still run as normal?




    Quote Originally Posted by JNSYN View Post
    Tax rule on property traders lacks clarity
    I have been investing my savings in residential properties, earning rental income and making capital gains, thanks to a buoyant property market. Last year, I was shocked to find that the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore (Iras) had taxed my capital gains from my property investments as far back as 2006. I was under the impression that capital gains from real estate investments in Singapore are tax-exempt.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/premium/...arity-20140218

    What do u feel about comment that "Landlords like Mr Yeo has a very comfortable existence while contributing almost no value to society. A sweeper sweeps the floor, a mechanic fixes equipments, an accountant make sure our financial system is sound. While a landlord basically taxes another person work, value adding ZERO."?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack21trader View Post
    Thanks for ur support, you r the best, good brother
    I also support you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack21trader View Post
    YOU THINK PEOPLE WILL SPEND MONEY ON BIG ITEMS USING THEIR WORK SALARY ?

    FAT HOPES.

    ONLY PEOPLE WHO EARN FROM INVESTMENT GAINS WILL SPEND MONEY ON LUXURY GOODS IN THE ECONOMY.

    IT WILL GO BACK TO BEFORE 1997.

    YOU THINK YOU CAN RESTART THE ENGINE TO CATCH UP CHINA AFTER YOU STALLED IT ?

    FAT HOPES.
    +1 ultimately only foreigners and landlords will drive the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xebay11 View Post
    +1 ultimately only foreigners and landlords will drive the economy.
    That's very dumb statement.

    Without domestic and export industry there will be no foreigners in this country and there won't be many landlord either.

    Just ask yourself how many tenants in this country depends on real estate for a living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack21trader View Post
    YOU THINK PEOPLE WILL SPEND MONEY ON BIG ITEMS USING THEIR WORK SALARY ?

    FAT HOPES.

    ONLY PEOPLE WHO EARN FROM INVESTMENT GAINS WILL SPEND MONEY ON LUXURY GOODS IN THE ECONOMY.

    IT WILL GO BACK TO BEFORE 1997.

    YOU THINK YOU CAN RESTART THE ENGINE TO CATCH UP CHINA AFTER YOU STALLED IT ?

    FAT HOPES.

    Luxury items is only a small fraction of the overall economy. While celebrity chef restaurants Re closing down food court business are thriving
    "Never argue with an idiot, or he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

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    Landlord sure got contributions too. Landlands create jobs and income for contruction sectors, banks, law firms, condo sweepers, condo security guards, condo gardeners, electric & gas sectors and landlords pay income tax, property tax, stamp duty too
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    Quote Originally Posted by star View Post
    Landlord sure got contributions too. Landlands create jobs and income for contruction sectors, banks, law firms, condo sweepers, condo security guards, condo gardeners, electric & gas sectors and landlords pay income tax, property tax, stamp duty too
    Landlord doesn't.pay.those stuffs it is the tenants who are paying them actually. And it's the industry which the tenants work for that is contributing to landlords income
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo33 View Post
    Luxury items is only a small fraction of the overall economy. While celebrity chef restaurants Re closing down food court business are thriving
    GO ahead, try to save using ur work salary and become a rich man.

    property and stock markets are the only 2 gates that provided the pathway to enter the rich class.

    even if u r a businessman, u will still NEED to use the money u made in business to invest in property or stocks in order to grow ur wealth.

    with one of this gates removed, i see how long u have to continue to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo33 View Post
    Landlord doesn't.pay.those stuffs it is the tenants who are paying them actually. And it's the industry which the tenants work for that is contributing to landlords income
    what talking u ?

    before they become landlords, they already work and saved to buy the property. They already paid the capital and taken the risk of investment.

    You are a big SABO by saying that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo33 View Post
    Landlord doesn't.pay.those stuffs it is the tenants who are paying them actually. And it's the industry which the tenants work for that is contributing to landlords income

    very obviously, ur hidden agenda is to block everyone to become rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack21trader View Post
    GO ahead, try to save using ur work salary and become a rich man.

    property and stock markets are the only 2 gates that provided the pathway to enter the rich class.

    even if u r a businessman, u will still NEED to use the money u made in business to invest in property or stocks in order to grow ur wealth.

    with one of this gates removed, i see how long u have to continue to work.
    Most rich man make their money from businesses which is unrelated to property and property income that made you rich in the past is just not sustainable. So hero will turn to zero.
    "Never argue with an idiot, or he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo33 View Post
    Most rich man make their money from businesses which is unrelated to property and property income that made you rich in the past is just not sustainable. So hero will turn to zero.
    obviously the rich u know are not the rich.

    who is the largest landlord and richest on Earth ?

    answer: Brunei Sultan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo33 View Post
    Most rich man make their money from businesses which is unrelated to property and property income that made you rich in the past is just not sustainable. So hero will turn to zero.

    I bet u also do not know many properties and hotels on planet Earth are owned by Brunei Sultan - The RICHEST on EARTH.

    and u thought is Bill Gates or Warren Buffett that u read on Forbes ranking ?

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