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    Default Cat A COEs may fall 10 to 15 per cent

    http://ride.asiaone.com/news/general...all-10-15-cent

    SINGAPORE - Three new Japanese sedans are expected to shake up the COE Category A market when they arrive early next year, just in time for a recategorisation of the small-car segment.
    The launches of the new Toyota Corolla Altis, Mazda3 and Honda City are likely to keep the Cat A COE premium relatively buoyant despite the exit of luxury models, which had been blamed for pushing up prices.
    Still, most dealers foresee at least a 10 to 15 per cent fall from current certificate-of-entitlement levels.
    From February next year, the engines of Cat A cars not only have to be limited in displacement to 1,600cc or lower, but their power cannot exceed 97 kilowatt or 130 brake horsepower.
    This means 42 models currently in Cat A are affected and will have to move over to Cat B (for cars above 1,600cc), including luxury rides like Singapore's top model last year, the Mercedes-Benz C180, and the BMW 316i. There will be about 100 models in the new Cat A.
    With their bigger profit margins, distributors of high-end cars were said to have driven Cat A COE premiums to an all-time high of $92,100 in January this year. The premium has since slipped to $72,609 now.
    "Next February should see the return of bread-and-butter models from those Japanese and Korean brands which have been priced out of Cat A for over two years," said a sales manager at a mass-market dealership. "There are many prospective upgraders who have been waiting on the sidelines because of high car prices."
    He added that after the new rules kick in, he expects the Cat A COE premium to drop to the $60,000 level.
    "Also, with the loan curbs still in force, affordability is an issue. So when Cat A softens, we will see more people coming back into the showrooms," he said.
    But will the influx of these buyers keep the Cat A COE premium where it is today?
    "No, premiums should soften despite...strong demand," said the sales manager. "This is because this group of buyers is not in the same league as those who buy Mercedes-Benzes or BMWs."
    The Thai-made Altis has traditionally been Toyota's best-selling model here. The new model is expected to be launched in January. The new Mazda3 is slated to arrive in the first quarter of next year from Japan. As for the new Honda City, it is scheduled for a Q2 introduction here.
    - See more at: http://ride.asiaone.com/news/general....TC6AlksO.dpuf

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    Honda Announces New 1.0L, 1.5L and 2.0L VTEC Turbo Engines

    http://www.carscoops.com/2013/11/hon...l-and-20l.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simi View Post
    Honda Announces New 1.0L, 1.5L and 2.0L VTEC Turbo Engines

    http://www.carscoops.com/2013/11/hon...l-and-20l.html
    nissan already announce bringing in turbo charged sylphy from next year. from what i read on sunday papers.
    There is no good or bad location. There is only good or bad price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanhz View Post
    nissan already announce bringing in turbo charged sylphy from next year. from what i read on sunday papers.

    Initially thought Japanese car maker will have a hard time selling their "conventional" car after Ford release their Eco Boost in their 1.0litre car

    Now they are catching up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simi View Post
    Initially thought Japanese car maker will have a hard time selling their "conventional" car after Ford release their Eco Boost in their 1.0litre car

    Now they are catching up
    But if Japanese car makers still don't improve on their design (not just facelift).. many sales will still go to Korea cars like Kia & Hyundai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rysk View Post
    But if Japanese car makers still don't improve on their design (not just facelift).. many sales will still go to Korea cars like Kia & Hyundai

    yes, the Korean are coming in fast with their sleek design

    but will be no match once the turbo charge car are introduce here

    especially the lower cc

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    are turbo charged cars more fuel efficient?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kane View Post
    are turbo charged cars more fuel efficient?

    Turbochargers Make Cars Cleaner, More Efficient

    http://www.autotrader.com/research/a...-efficient.jsp

    the other advantage of a turbo car in Singapore is the cc

    you pay for 1.0l road tax but like driving a 1.6l car

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    Ford EcoSport review | first drive

    http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and...cosport_review

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simi View Post
    Turbochargers Make Cars Cleaner, More Efficient

    http://www.autotrader.com/research/a...-efficient.jsp

    the other advantage of a turbo car in Singapore is the cc

    you pay for 1.0l road tax but like driving a 1.6l car
    the greater savings is on petrol. road tax savings based on the current structure isn't much between 1l and 1.6l.

    interesting, thanks for the info. i suppose the turbochargers don't have overheating problems in singapore's climate right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kane View Post
    the greater savings is on petrol. road tax savings based on the current structure isn't much between 1l and 1.6l.

    interesting, thanks for the info. i suppose the turbochargers don't have overheating problems in singapore's climate right?

    No problem at all

    BMW currently using their Twin Scroll Turbo

    very smooth during transition from lower to higher gear

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    Twin-Scroll Turbo System Design Explained

    http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/02/tw...ign-explained/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simi View Post

    you pay for 1.0l road tax but like driving a 1.6l car
    yah boy.... nissan sylphy 1.6L with 190bhp. sounds amazing coming from a jap producer
    There is no good or bad location. There is only good or bad price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanhz View Post
    yah boy.... nissan sylphy 1.6L with 190bhp. sounds amazing coming from a jap producer

    yes that's the beauty

    190bhp higher than the BMW 2005 ~ 2007 523i

    but don't try at 200kmph cos car weight size aero not meant for it

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    CAT A and B COE to move up today?

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    ALL CATEGORIES DOWN. Patiently waiting....

    AsiaOne | Wednesday, Dec 4, 2013 SINGAPORE - The latest results from Dec 4's COE bidding exercise has been released. In category A for cars 1,600cc and below, COE premiums went down to $73,160 from $74,991 in the last bidding on Nov 20. In category B for cars 1,600cc and above, premiums also went down to $73,010 from $79,300. In category C for good vehicles and buses, premiums went down to $51,112 from $55,002. In category D for motorcycles, premiums also went down to $1,782 from $1,712. And in the open category E, premiums went down to $76,901 from $83,000. - See more at: http://ride.asiaone.com/news/general....PVP56bg2.dpuf

    Quote Originally Posted by DC33_2008 View Post
    CAT A and B COE to move up today?

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    can drop back to $30k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kane View Post
    can drop back to $30k?
    can but u need to wait...LONG LONG
    In the final analysis.....its NOT whether you have a diploma,degree,masters OR PHD....its whether you have a HDB/PC/EC or LANDED...

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    in the next 5 years? heh.

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    Hopefully COE could drop to a decent level when 428i convertible available in SG

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui75Fw8a9C0

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    40-50k possible next year but guess any dip won't last long unless major recession/event.

    Well known coffeeshop talk that too many people waiting on sidelines for COE to drop. so very hard to drop to 20-30k under normal circumstances (no major event/sudden big release of coes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellogs View Post
    Hopefully COE could drop to a decent level when 428i convertible available in SG

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui75Fw8a9C0

    once COE drops to a decent level and STAYS there for a prolong period .. you know what will happen right ?


    Car import tax will be raised ...

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