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    The mentality of the rich

    February 20, 2013


    Do you agree that rich people are often misers?

    Maybe the difficult route to great fortune makes them more reluctant to part with their money.

    Or perhaps they come from a humble background. One day when they have money, they will treasure every dollar in their pocket.

    But I think the real reason is: the truly wealthy understand the difference between Price and Value.

    Hey, is there a difference?

    Warren Buffet said, “Price is what you pay. Value is what you get.”

    Price is the amount you pay for something. Value is what it really worth.

    Supposedly you sell a bowl of laksa with the best ingredients and a special recipe to a rich man at $50.

    He says, “I’m not buying.”

    Can he afford it? Yes, of course.

    Why doesn’t he pay for it? Because it’s not worth it.

    Ordinary people can seldom tell the difference of price from value.

    Ordinary people buy things based on their affordability. When they receive their year-end bonus, they immediately spend on something they have been eyeing at. Once they save enough for the deposit, they can’t wait to upgrade their car or buy that property.

    Rich people buy things based on the concept of worth. If they see the value of an asset, regardless of the price, they will find means to acquire it.

    If you want to win with money, you have to be able to tell the differences of three terms:

    1) market positioning;

    2) perceived value; and

    3) actual worth.

    For example, a manufacturer may position its latest product as a state-of-the-art product. The market also perceives the model as high-end.
    But before you buy, ask yourself, how much is this really worth? What is a fair price to pay, at the moment, 3 months from now, and a year later?


    Similarly, a developer had positioned a new project as the most luxurious condo at the peak of the market in 1996. The market also perceived it as a good deal in the high end market. What do you think the price had been in 5, 10 and 15 years’ time? When do you think is the time to buy at fair value?
    Identifying the discrepancy between what an asset is worth and its market price is the name of the game in every case.

    - Lauren Templeton & Scott Philips, Investing the Templeton Way
    In 1957, Sir Run Run Shaw decided to make Hong Kong as his base to make professional Chinese films. He needed a big plot of land to build a movie studio.

    A hilly place north of Kowloon called Clearwater Bay was deserted due to its proximity to the border of China. The threat of communism had made this place a no man’s land. In fact, the place was so hilly that, before one could build anything on top, he had to level it by removing 60 feet from the top.

    Although it looked improbable, Shaw still went ahead to buy the 46 acres of land from the government at 45 cents per square foot.


    Today, Clearwater Bay has long become a prestigious address for the rich and famous. The luxurious apartments there are easily fetching HK$10,000 per square foot.
    He only parted with cash for quality assets in key locations that could churn out positive yields at bottom dollar.
    - Ow Chio Kiat, CEO of Stamford Land and founder of Singapore Shipping Corporation
    Wish everyone a prosperous Year of the Snake!

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    thanks for sharing, vip!
    excellent article as always!
    I took the road less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.” - Robert Frost quotes (American poet, 1874-1963)

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    WOW WOW WOW Discovered another highly intellectual brother here !

    Very true, thanks for sharing your precious thoughts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack21trader
    WOW WOW WOW Discovered another highly intellectual brother here !

    Very true, thanks for sharing your precious thoughts!
    Vip is a sis.... and a very knowledgeable one!

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    thanks, it's one of the few good articles in this forum.


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    Thanks. I am learning from you too

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    After reading vip's post on Sir Run Run Shaw and clearwater bay, I was thinking of those who are vested in Geylang eg babyt, irisng , and if one day the red light district there shrank into oblivion, they will have the last laugh.

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    thats why very often you see people living in big bungalow driving old mercedes or Toyota, while young punk living in HDB or condo change car like changing underwear.
    "Never argue with an idiot, or he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttercarp
    After reading vip's post on Sir Run Run Shaw and clearwater bay, I was thinking of those who are vested in Geylang eg babyt, irisng , and if one day the red light district there shrank into oblivion, they will have the last laugh.
    prostitution and sex is an industry that has got no expiry date. And with growing population and people remain single, how do you expect to shrink? in fact I think this could be a growing industry.
    "Never argue with an idiot, or he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo33
    prostitution and sex is an industry that has got no expiry date. And with growing population and people remain single, how do you expect to shrink? in fact I think this could be a growing industry.
    If the plot ratio for that area is increased, then more developers would want to buy up the old houses there and build condos and apartments and the red light district may slowly shrink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttercarp
    After reading vip's post on Sir Run Run Shaw and clearwater bay, I was thinking of those who are vested in Geylang eg babyt, irisng , and if one day the red light district there shrank into oblivion, they will have the last laugh.
    Instead of fighting the red light district, I think we have to understand why geylang is so unique, and attempt to extract value from it's strengths, rather than channel the resources to challenge the unknown.

    Let's face it.. if the ladies are gone.. does that turn D14 into the next Novena? Will that guarantee enhanced valuation? We don't know.

    But if we focus the resources into leveraging on it's strengths.. like enhancing the 24 hr F&B lifestyle, it can be a mini las vegas strip. Personally, I dun mind the ladies, they are like wall flowers. It's the illegal cigarettes, gambling, that attracts the wrong crowd.

    Geylang is also popular with FT from China and could be the next Min China. Perhaps leverage to get the China feel?

    Thus.. I hope.. let's not be anti women there.

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    It also reminds me of people chasing after latest electronic gadgets that lost glamour in a year or even less..

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    the rich who drives big big expensive cars... always park by the road side ...

    example : Cluny court , coronation plaza

    can they afford to park in the basement car park ?

    Yes


    is it worth parking in the proper car park as oppose to road side ?
    yes ??


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    Quote Originally Posted by buttercarp
    If the plot ratio for that area is increased, then more developers would want to buy up the old houses there and build condos and apartments and the red light district may slowly shrink.
    until you can think of a better place to put our red light district or else there is no chance our government would want to disturb the "peace" in geyland.
    "Never argue with an idiot, or he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

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    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    the rich who drives big big expensive cars... always park by the road side ...

    example : Cluny court , coronation plaza

    can they afford to park in the basement car park ?

    Yes


    is it worth parking in the proper car park as oppose to road side ?
    yes ??

    in singapore, the govt favour the rich..
    so, i doubt they will send many fatimah to go check there so often.. lol!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo33
    until you can think of a better place to put our red light district or else there is no chance our government would want to disturb the "peace" in geyland.
    maybe govt will shrink the area where red light district operate .. just like how they cut down area where smoking is allow..
    I took the road less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.” - Robert Frost quotes (American poet, 1874-1963)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo33
    until you can think of a better place to put our red light district or else there is no chance our government would want to disturb the "peace" in geyland.
    IMHO, one word from govt, everything may change, it is up to the govt whether they want to relocate or not. Desker Road was once a very popular area for vice too (if I'm not wrong), location also very convenient, in the end why vice are relocated to Geylang? There must be a reason behind or is it that there are too many complains from the HDB residents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttercarp
    After reading vip's post on Sir Run Run Shaw and clearwater bay, I was thinking of those who are vested in Geylang eg babyt, irisng , and if one day the red light district there shrank into oblivion, they will have the last laugh.
    difference betw clearwater and geyland.. the shaw family had the power to create things. just like uncle lim create genting from nothing. buying geylang, is just small fry waiting for big things to happen. no offence. but that is the power of $$$.
    There is no good or bad location. There is only good or bad price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanhz
    difference betw clearwater and geyland.. the shaw family had the power to create things. just like uncle lim create genting from nothing. buying geylang, is just small fry waiting for big things to happen. no offence. but that is the power of $$$.
    i love the word "create" ..

    most of them think out of the box
    I took the road less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.” - Robert Frost quotes (American poet, 1874-1963)

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    Quote Originally Posted by irisng
    IMHO, one word from govt, everything may change, it is up to the govt whether they want to relocate or not. Desker Road was once a very popular area for vice too (if I'm not wrong), location also very convenient, in the end why vice are relocated to Geylang? There must be a reason behind or is it that there are too many complains from the HDB residents.
    The govt I guess wanted to centralise vice as it is easier to control / monitor. Right now the govt is in fact allowing more legalised brothels to open up in Geylang with more licences being issued especialy to operate brothels specialising in PRC prostitutes, as a way of reducing, those freelancers on the street. Vice will always be around and eventually it will be shifted from Geylang, due to the potential value of the land, though unlikely to happen during our lifetime. All they need is one or two five storey small warehouse like complexes to house all the legalised brothels and which can be built in a far corner of Singapore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irisng
    IMHO, one word from govt, everything may change, it is up to the govt whether they want to relocate or not. Desker Road was once a very popular area for vice too (if I'm not wrong), location also very convenient, in the end why vice are relocated to Geylang? There must be a reason behind or is it that there are too many complains from the HDB residents.
    desker attracts a different kind of crowd

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    Quote Originally Posted by roly8
    i love the word "create" ..

    most of them think out of the box
    “To the extent that I had any success, it was from homework. I was willing and able to work harder than other people, but I was also willing and able to think differently from other people.” - Jim Rogers (in Smart Planet)

    “Most people don’t think for themselves. Most people just go along with whatever they see in the newspapers or the TV or whatever their friends or teachers say. That’s a terrible, terrible mistake because most of those people don’t wind up being terribly successful in life.” - Jim Rogers (in Smart Planet)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vip
    “To the extent that I had any success, it was from homework. I was willing and able to work harder than other people, but I was also willing and able to think differently from other people.” - Jim Rogers (in Smart Planet)

    “Most people don’t think for themselves. Most people just go along with whatever they see in the newspapers or the TV or whatever their friends or teachers say. That’s a terrible, terrible mistake because most of those people don’t wind up being terribly successful in life.” - Jim Rogers (in Smart Planet)

    Wise words.
    TQ.



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