Centralised Schools

[COS]

Do you think this will work?
Having centralised schools both primary and secondary in each district (East, West, South, North, Central).
Example east of Singapore will have one big secondary and primary school (similar to polytechnic size) and every student staying in the east district goes to this centralised school. This way the govt won't have to build smaller schools all over the place.
What pros and cons?

[zzz1]

Do you think this will work?
Having centralised schools both primary and secondary in each district (East, West, South, North, Central).
Example east of Singapore will have one big secondary and primary school (similar to polytechnic size) and every student staying in the east district goes to this centralised school. This way the govt won't have to build smaller schools all over the place.
What pros and cons?

Each school has it own favour , history and culture. Bring centralised, there will be no characteristics and area of focus ..

And that will bring about greater choices

[The_Way_I_See_It]

Do you think this will work?
Having centralised schools both primary and secondary in each district (East, West, South, North, Central).
Example east of Singapore will have one big secondary and primary school (similar to polytechnic size) and every student staying in the east district goes to this centralised school. This way the govt won't have to build smaller schools all over the place.
What pros and cons?

we turned into a North Korea aka communist state overnite. Then this is possible b'cos everyone must follow instructions of the state ...

[Kelonguni]

Do you think this will work?
Having centralised schools both primary and secondary in each district (East, West, South, North, Central).
Example east of Singapore will have one big secondary and primary school (similar to polytechnic size) and every student staying in the east district goes to this centralised school. This way the govt won't have to build smaller schools all over the place.
What pros and cons?

And name them Singapore Primary School 1, Singapore Primary School 2 etc? Just like several Asian countries?

I think it won't work. The traffic jams will get extremely bad in the morning. Just queue outside any popular school during peak hours and you will sense how bad it can be.

It will be a logistic nightmare controlling a few thousand teachers per school and hundreds of thousands of children per school.

This is a suggestion to revert everything to central control just as we have managed some success in decentralizing. Are you sure?

[howgozit]

I thought the whole idea is to de-centralise rather than centralise. Spread it out asmuchas possible

[Arcachon]

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm

I went to NUS High Open House in 2006 and to take a good look at the what the school can provide as compare to neighborhood school. They are given all the Best the gov. can provide.

http://www.nushigh.edu.sg/

[ysyap]

Do you think this will work?
Having centralised schools both primary and secondary in each district (East, West, South, North, Central).
Example east of Singapore will have one big secondary and primary school (similar to polytechnic size) and every student staying in the east district goes to this centralised school. This way the govt won't have to build smaller schools all over the place.
What pros and cons?

Each year say there are about 40000 students going to sch, there'll be about 8000 students per level per district. In a typical primary school with 6 levels, there'll be 48 000 students in one school. MRT breakdowns, roads will crack and nobody wants to stay even 2km from there. Economy will suffer and property prices will plummet in that area. It will take at least 3 hours before traffic is cleared. Even Universities are not that congested with may at most 20 000 students.

[hyenergix]

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm

I went to NUS High Open House in 2006 and to take a good look at the what the school can provide as compare to neighborhood school. They are given all the Best the gov. can provide.

http://www.nushigh.edu.sg/

Every school a good school:
http://www.moe.gov.sg/initiatives/ev...l-good-school/

Oh really?

[COS]

Centralised school doesn't mean one secondary school for the whole of Singapore. Maybe one big school for one or two districts. Have the centralised schools located somewhere away from main traffic for example taking the location of Temasek Poly.
Lessons timing can start later maybe at 10am instead so no need to send all kids to schools early in the morning at 7am causing all the jam. There will be a transport network oversee by the school to pick up kids from home, parents can drop their kids anytime before 10am and go to work.
This big school can have a big library, huge canteen, fast food, child care, supermarkets, cinemas, gaming center etc. Kids can stay in school after lessons for hours if their parents are coming in late to pick them.

[COS]

Each school has it own favour , history and culture. Bring centralised, there will be no characteristics and area of focus ..

And that will bring about greater choices

Why not? Take example there's 10 centralised secondary school (aka district school) in Singapore, I'm sure each school will have their own culture. And there will be one national sports day for these schools where the best from each school compete against each other.

[ysyap]

Centralised school doesn't mean one secondary school for the whole of Singapore. Maybe one big school for one or two districts. Have the centralised schools located somewhere away from main traffic for example taking the location of Temasek Poly.
Lessons timing can start later maybe at 10am instead so no need to send all kids to schools early in the morning at 7am causing all the jam. There will be a transport network oversee by the school to pick up kids from home, parents can drop their kids anytime before 10am and go to work.
This big school can have a big library, huge canteen, fast food, child care, supermarkets, cinemas, gaming center etc. Kids can stay in school after lessons for hours if their parents are coming in late to pick them.

Lol... if sch starts at 10am, then parents can't send their pri sch kids to sch... system may not be sustainable...

[zzz1]

Why not? Take example there's 10 centralised secondary school (aka district school) in Singapore, I'm sure each school will have their own culture. And there will be one national sports day for these schools where the best from each school compete against each other.

Why not u share the thought of the pros? Would be delighted to hear your view and perspective ..

[COS]

Why not u share the thought of the pros? Would be delighted to hear your view and perspective ..

For discussion nia, but anyways my thoughts:

- A big district school with many facilities such as childcare, gaming center, library, gym, cinema, swimming pool, fast food restaurant, supermarket will more likely appeal to the kids and they will probably stay back after school hours waiting for their parents to pick them up.
- Parents can be sure that their kids will most likely be in school enjoying the facilities after school hours.
- Parents can send their kids anytime before 10am to school. If a dad works 9am this means he can send his kid in later. A dad working 7.30am can send his kid in earlier and his kid will probably check into the school gaming centre awaiting lessons at 10am. This means there's no need for the whole Singapore to send their kids to school at the same time 7am and causing all the jam.
- If there's family at home, the school can further take charge of transport picking up students at designated points reducing the need for parents to send their kids to school. And this pick up timing will be out of the peak hours period because lessons starts at 10am

I think still got a few more pros but let the rest absorb the few points given above.

[ysyap]

For more discussion nia...

One school per district cannot cater to the vast differences in skills, etc. From sporting dexterity to intellectual giftedness, a conducive environment is always preferred to stimulate and spur a child towards excellence. Any single school will never adequately cater to that sort of diverse student profile.

If banding is proposed to allow that conducive environment, then its like putting 15 different schools in one piece of land. Why not just spread out the schools then...

[zzz1]

For discussion nia, but anyways my thoughts:

- A big district school with many facilities such as childcare, gaming center, library, gym, cinema, swimming pool, fast food restaurant, supermarket will more likely appeal to the kids and they will probably stay back after school hours waiting for their parents to pick them up.
- Parents can be sure that their kids will most likely be in school enjoying the facilities after school hours.
- Parents can send their kids anytime before 10am to school. If a dad works 9am this means he can send his kid in later. A dad working 7.30am can send his kid in earlier and his kid will probably check into the school gaming centre awaiting lessons at 10am. This means there's no need for the whole Singapore to send their kids to school at the same time 7am and causing all the jam.
- If there's family at home, the school can further take charge of transport picking up students at designated points reducing the need for parents to send their kids to school. And this pick up timing will be out of the peak hours period because lessons starts at 10am

I think still got a few more pros but let the rest absorb the few points given above.

Wah.... The school become a small village , fully self contained plus entertainment ..

Yap.. Th whole Singapore nn need to rush to school at the same time, al jamm up...

[COS]

For more discussion nia...

One school per district cannot cater to the vast differences in skills, etc. From sporting dexterity to intellectual giftedness, a conducive environment is always preferred to stimulate and spur a child towards excellence. Any single school will never adequately cater to that sort of diverse student profile.

If banding is proposed to allow that conducive environment, then its like putting 15 different schools in one piece of land. Why not just spread out the schools then...

I have different view on this. I think a big district school with all the varies and mega facilities give every kid a chance to try out different activity and will actually bring out the special talent in each kid. How is it possible for each neighbour school right now to have such facilities?
Imagine pooling the resources of all the neighbourhood schools and build a super campus with gym, golf range, gardens, swimming pool, music school, mega sports complex and etc. Every kid in this super campus will have a chance to try out different stuff and find the one they excel in. To me kids education is not like buying car or property where only the rich can afford. Every child regardless of background, should be given the same opportunity to learn on equal ground and they will eventually find the stuff that they are good in and maybe, maybe they get to represent Singapore someday.

[COS]

Wah.... The school become a small village , fully self contained plus entertainment ..

Yap.. Th whole Singapore nn need to rush to school at the same time, al jamm up...

Ya, nowadays kids education so stressful liao. Go school many many homework, go home still got tution on weekend, where got life? Need to balance also mah so set up entertainment in school to reduce their stress and make them stay in school also. Now they also hang out in shopping malls and gaming center after school right?

[ysyap]

I have different view on this. I think a big district school with all the varies and mega facilities give every kid a chance to try out different activity and will actually bring out the special talent in each kid. How is it possible for each neighbour school right now to have such facilities?
Imagine pooling the resources of all the neighbourhood schools and build a super campus with gym, golf range, gardens, swimming pool, music school, mega sports complex and etc. Every kid in this super campus will have a chance to try out different stuff and find the one they excel in. To me kids education is not like buying car or property where only the rich can afford. Every child regardless of background, should be given the same opportunity to learn on equal ground and they will eventually find the stuff that they are good in and maybe, maybe they get to represent Singapore someday.

Agreed that every child, regardless of family financial condition, should have access to most, if not all facilities in schools. If we ask govt to pump in that huge amount of $$ to build a centralized school with mega facilities, just spread that money to build these same facilities in individual schools to avoid a huge congestion in gyms, etc. Stampede kills.... Lol... anyway its really an interesting discussion!

[onglai]

Do you think this will work?
Having centralised schools both primary and secondary in each district (East, West, South, North, Central).
Example east of Singapore will have one big secondary and primary school (similar to polytechnic size) and every student staying in the east district goes to this centralised school. This way the govt won't have to build smaller schools all over the place.
What pros and cons?

wat's the purpose of doing this? comparing to what we have now.
save construction cost?

[Shanhz]

yah sounds novel.

instead of one school at one location, you have say 5-8 schools at one location. eg: something like the mega ITE at amk. then all facilities can be combined and well utilised. then the above mentioned like after school care and other things can all come together. there will be more interaction between all schools. CCAs can cross schools, and there will be critical mass to create niche CCAs like maybe fencing or what. and swimming pool within school compound.

best part is.. can boost TFR. because more chances of kids mixing and pro-creating. oops.

but will have 5-8 times the traffic when parents come and go.

[COS]

yah sounds novel.

instead of one school at one location, you have say 5-8 schools at one location. eg: something like the mega ITE at amk. then all facilities can be combined and well utilised. then the above mentioned like after school care and other things can all come together. there will be more interaction between all schools. CCAs can cross schools, and there will be critical mass to create niche CCAs like maybe fencing or what. and swimming pool within school compound.

best part is.. can boost TFR. because more chances of kids mixing and pro-creating. oops.

but will have 5-8 times the traffic when parents come and go.

yup there will be opportunity for every student to find out what they are good at and hopefully the country will further develop thr talent to international level.
Students from each district mega school gets to compete with each other maybe on a National school sports day. I'm sure it will be interesting.