Freak election result, Shaken confidence

[Rosy]

The signs are there. The tide is irreversible. S'pore will evolve into a two-party system. Who's to say that this will not be for the best? The new generation is no more subservient. They stand up for Singapore but they also stand up for authenticity, integrity and fairplay. Recently, we read in the media about so-and-so (Minister, Speaker, MPs) living in HDB flats. Well, they are a tiny minority among the elite - and who's to say they don't own foreign prioperties and private properties in S'pore? When you are authentic, people can tell. No point faking it. If you have to try too hard, then it's not authentic. This by-election is another wake-up call!

So you are trying to say ministers cannot be rich?

[Regulators]

They can be rich, but not at the expense of public funds. If they are rich from their own business, they can consider themselves self-made and that is fine. If an ordinary minister (unknown to the world) gets paid more than obama for doing 1/1000 of what obama does, then something is very wrong.

So you are trying to say ministers cannot be rich?

[Rosy]

They can be rich, but not at the expense of public funds. If they are rich from their own business, they can consider themselves self-made and that is fine. If an ordinary minister (unknown to the world) gets paid more than obama for doing 1/1000 of what obama does, then something is very wrong.

This is not what i gather from that comment.

[august]

They can be rich, but not at the expense of public funds. If they are rich from their own business, they can consider themselves self-made and that is fine. If an ordinary minister (unknown to the world) gets paid more than obama for doing 1/1000 of what obama does, then something is very wrong.

[buttercarp]

bro i bought my toyota vios left 2 years to scrap for $15k...2 years time i scrap get back $10k..where got expensive...BUT if people want hi-class car or NEW car what to do...pay $$$$...dont blame govt/coe....its all about your expectation...i also have one suzuki last year bought at $17k....next year scrap also get back about $10k...ok what 2-cars...recently i just sold my honda jazz left 3 years for 23k...when i bought my vios...can LA bro..but people want merc/bmw sorry cannot help you...

Yup bro.... I agree with you on your method!
That's what I told my hubby that when it is time to scrap his car, if COE is still high, either do what you do, ie buy old old about to scrap car and drive for a year or 2, then wait and see the market rate.

Or splurge on a new car, drive for 1 year then sell and buy a new one, so as to minimize on the depreciation per year, ie provided the COE remains high or go higher.

[yowetan]

Yup bro.... I agree with you on your method!
That's what I told my hubby that when it is time to scrap his car, if COE is still high, either do what you do, ie buy old old about to scrap car and drive for a year or 2, then wait and see the market rate.

Or splurge on a new car, drive for 1 year then sell and buy a new one, so as to minimize on the depreciation per year, ie provided the COE remains high or go higher.

The second method doesn't sound wise based on calculation.

[Doom]

No they can be rich. They can be qualified. But thew rich and the highly qualified don't always resonate and empathise with people. So the PAP try and downplay welath and qualifications. But it has to be real. WP's Lee Li Lian barely passed PSLE, went to Poly after O levels. Png Eng Huat also something like that. And many others too . . . maybe their humble background makes them able to connect with bread and butter issues and with heartlanders. So when the PAP tries and go down this route, to act humble and meagre, well, it just doesn't work. Unless it's true. It needs to be real and authentic.

So you are trying to say ministers cannot be rich?

[Rosy]

No they can be rich. They can be qualified. But thew rich and the highly qualified don't always resonate and empathise with people. So the PAP try and downplay welath and qualifications. But it has to be real. WP's Lee Li Lian barely passed PSLE, went to Poly after O levels. Png Eng Huat also something like that. And many others too . . . maybe their humble background makes them able to connect with bread and butter issues and with heartlanders. So when the PAP tries and go down this route, to act humble and meagre, well, it just doesn't work. Unless it's true. It needs to be real and authentic.

Your words are contradicting.

[RCT]

car is necessity for them coz he has a family to ferry around on weekends.

Stingy and being rich is too different idea totally.. Please do not stingy = poor...

Stingy means one want to get the best out of his money..

If you eat at hawker center you need $5/- but when you eat the same food at restaurant you will need $20/-. So how will you spend? But does not mean eating at hawker center mean poor right? Let time I study I eat hawker center.. Now I am working I also eat hawker center.. Even as my pay increase, I still eat in hawker center.... Do it mean I am stingy? I don't feel so as I feel it is more value for money to eat in hawker center..

[zzz1]

Yes. I have seen rich parents refuse to pay for their children university school fees.

Isit??
some parent use CPF to pay and later childern got to return back....

[ichigo55]

It's proven .. ESP from so much discussed on the net ... The current gen of people have great resentment for success and wealth ... Whether or not its through hard work or opportunities ... It doesn't matter to them as they are not part of the circle ... This is really dangerous going forward ...

[Doom]

You mean contradictory?

In what way?

Your words are contradicting.

[Rosy]

Isit??
some parent use CPF to pay and later childern got to return back....

Real life examples.

[Regulators]

To add, Koh Poh Koon should know that after having trained for donkey years in medical school, his talent would be an utter waste in politics. Singapore is always facing a shortage of specialists, so it is definitely a wrong move to have people of these professions in politics.

No they can be rich. They can be qualified. But thew rich and the highly qualified don't always resonate and empathise with people. So the PAP try and downplay welath and qualifications. But it has to be real. WP's Lee Li Lian barely passed PSLE, went to Poly after O levels. Png Eng Huat also something like that. And many others too . . . maybe their humble background makes them able to connect with bread and butter issues and with heartlanders. So when the PAP tries and go down this route, to act humble and meagre, well, it just doesn't work. Unless it's true. It needs to be real and authentic.

[Simi]

Bro, exact same sentiments here.

I would like to urge PM Lee to let WP run the transport and MND ministries. See if they can bring down car price without causing jams, bring down property price without costing thwm losing their parliamentary seats.

Wont be surprised if they can

S&C has already been down since taking over Aljunied Hougang Town Council


MND ?
AIM saga will become an INVESTIGATION instead of a review


Then again
will PM Lee allows that ?

[RCT]

Your words are contradicting.

I agree that minister can eat big money.. but if you screw up, you have to be sack.. agree?

[ecimbew]

He is not really stingy. I wear casio instead of 2nd hand tag huer.

Thrifty and stingy are different.

My hand phone double up as a watch. Stingy?

[evergreen]

PAP lost = confidence shaken??
People are more knowledgeable now and they want sustainable growth with the growth benefiting all Singaporeans. I think there will be improvement now that the PAP lost 1 seat.

Isit??
some parent use CPF to pay and later childern got to return back....

Parent can submit a waiver to CPF so that the children don't have to return the money. I don't see anything wrong with the children paying the parents back. I insisted on paying my dad back the money because it only took me a year to save it but it took him years to earn it.

[Rosy]

To add, Koh Poh Koon should know that after having trained for donkey years in medical school, his talent would be an utter waste in politics. Singapore is always facing a shortage of specialists, so it is definitely a wrong move to have people of these professions in politics.

Interesting. So which kind of profession is considered dispensable?

Becoming MP is a complete waste? Serving the nation is a waste?

[ecimbew]

To add, Koh Poh Koon should know that after having trained for donkey years in medical school, his talent would be an utter waste in politics. Singapore is always facing a shortage of specialists, so it is definitely a wrong move to have people of these professions in politics.

Doctors after serving the bond will prefer a less hectic pace.

[Rosy]

My hand phone double up as a watch. Stingy?

Exactly. Stingy is being used loosely.

[Doom]

You're right. And they try hard to connect. Too hard it becomes unbelievable. He says after he and his wife bought their first flat, they realised they were only left with $11.50. Now . . . a doctor married to another doctor, and they only have $11.50! They have lost touch with reality or they think Singaporeans are so naive.

To add, Koh Poh Koon should know that after having trained for donkey years in medical school, his talent would be an utter waste in politics. Singapore is always facing a shortage of specialists, so it is definitely a wrong move to have people of these professions in politics.

[Rosy]

Doctors after serving the bond will prefer a less hectic pace.

I do not see politics is less hectic.

In fact every move and words will be subjected to public critics.

[Simi]

Yup, i agree with you. The issue is they who complain has gotten their priorities all wrong.

They who do not complain blame all the Opposition Parties in Singapore

They who do not complain say Let the MIW works in peace
They believe the MIW so much so that these men in white can "Fly Sky Drill Earth" talk until got "Dragon and Phoenix"

[Regulators]

Are you asking because you really don't know? anyone with a degree with a decent character can sit in parliament to air views, but not everyone that is decent with a degree can remove a cancerous tumour from someone's colon.

Interesting. So which kind of profession is considered dispensable?

[ecimbew]

I do not see politics is less hectic.

In fact every move and words will be subjected to public critics.

You are right. It's like attending to them at clinics. The difference is the pain is amplified by media and public scrutiny.

[Regulators]

the rule is simple, say the right thing or say nothing. that applies to private as well as public office.

I do not see politics is less hectic.

In fact every move and words will be subjected to public critics.

[leesg123]

I am heartened to also know that WP's Mr Low said this:
http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking...trend-20130127
Mr Low said this was why he had taken pains to stress to voters the role the WP is able to play at this stage in its development. The party is "not ready" to form an alternative government and come up with a full set of alternative policies yet, he said.
What the WP can and will do is to point out problems in existing policies and offer policy suggestions, said Mr Low. He believes Singapore has a "competent government" but it can do better and "tilt" policy directions, such as in alleviating cost of living pressures on Singaporeans.

Salute to him as he is also aware of the possibility of a freak election in the next GE. I hope that the other leaders within the WP also share similar stand.

[Rosy]

Are you asking because you really don't know? anyone with a degree with a decent character can sit in parliament to air views, but not everyone that is decent with a degree can remove a cancerous tumour from someone's colon.

U did not answer directly and omitted some.

[Rosy]

the rule is simple, say the right thing or say nothing. that applies to private as well as public office.

Same apply to public forum.