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Thread: if you paid the booking fee for a unit but seller decided to increase price..

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    Default if you paid the booking fee for a unit but seller decided to increase price..

    can you still cancel the transaction and get the deposit back?since before paying the deposit both seller and buyer agree to the price but after getting the deposit, seller decided to up price..can get back the full deposit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtreme_46
    can you still cancel the transaction and get the deposit back?since before paying the deposit both seller and buyer agree to the price but after getting the deposit, seller decided to up price..can get back the full deposit?
    Are you issued with the option to purchase form? if yes, tell seller to fly kite. otherwise, you are entitled to your deposit.

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    OTP is legal binding. All stated there..

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    so, if he had issued the seller with Offer to Purchase along with the booking fee, seller has every right to accept, reject or counter offer the price. nothing legal binding yet.

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    most important is OTP signed yet?

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    If seller bank in the cheque stated as 1%, it's deemed that seller has accepted the offer.

    Buyer can seek legal action.

    This for PC. HDB I think it's slightly different..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cnud
    If seller bank in the cheque stated as 1%, it's deemed that seller has accepted the offer.

    Buyer can seek legal action.

    This for PC. HDB I think it's slightly different..
    what if seller never bank in cheque

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    Quote Originally Posted by august
    most important is OTP signed yet?
    if OTP not signed yet? cos only paid the 1% to secure the unit..but seller now want buyer to counter offer cos he say he received higher offer

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    i tot valid OTP is issued togeher with a cheque.if yes, the seller cannot run away whether he got bank in the cheque or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtreme_46
    if OTP not signed yet? cos only paid the 1% to secure the unit..but seller now want buyer to counter offer cos he say he received higher offer
    If OTP not signed, but cheque issued but not banked in. Then your agent needs to go fly kite.

    If agent solid, he will secure signed OTP before presenting to buyer...

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    ur agent sucks then. the most basic he also never do! change agent!

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    no otp, means the seller hasn't accept your bid legally and officially.

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    your agent can say price ok, you write cheque, reaches the seller's house. as long as the seller doesn't issue theotp to you, you don't have a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cnud
    If OTP not signed, but cheque issued but not banked in. Then your agent needs to go fly kite.

    If agent solid, he will secure signed OTP before presenting to buyer...
    Nops, now the practice, the buyer must come out with the 1% chq and present to the seller.
    The seller will then decide whether to issue OTP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laguna
    Nops, now the practice, the buyer must come out with the 1% chq and present to the seller.
    The seller will then decide whether to issue OTP

    yes. buyer got to fill up Offer To Purchase first and issue cheque, then seller issues Option To Purchase after that. solid agent will make sure both are settled properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laguna
    Nops, now the practice, the buyer must come out with the 1% chq and present to the seller.
    The seller will then decide whether to issue OTP
    I will make sure that the seller is ok with my offer before I issue the cheque. If the agent says the owner wants to see the cheque before accepting the offer, the owner is not keen to sell or the agent is fishing at a price lower than what the owner expects, I wouldn't bother to give the agent the cheque. When I issue the cheque, I expect the agent to return with the signed OTP within the next few hours. I tell the agent not to waste everyone's time, if there is no deal, why bother with the cheque.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sh
    I will make sure that the seller is ok with my offer before I issue the cheque. If the agent says the owner wants to see the cheque before accepting the offer, the owner is not keen to sell or the agent is fishing at a price lower than what the owner expects, I wouldn't bother to give the agent the cheque. When I issue the cheque, I expect the agent to return with the signed OTP within the next few hours. I tell the agent not to waste everyone's time, if there is no deal, why bother with the cheque.

    yes. should be like this.
    the genuine agent usually will not even want to take the cheque, unless seller has agreed.

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    Agent's job is to close deal. If the agent is fairly confident that the deal can be close at slightly below seller target price, it is right for him to collect cheque for negotiation with seller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtreme_46
    if OTP not signed yet? cos only paid the 1% to secure the unit..but seller now want buyer to counter offer cos he say he received higher offer
    You mean the seller kept the cheque, did not sign the OTP but instead upped the price?

    Why would he keep the cheque?

    I think that's irregular and your agent ought to be shot!

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    The seller cannot withhold the cheque. If he doesn't accept the offer, he needs to return it.

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    it will be advisable to put an expiry date at the back of the check so seller cannot keep and wait for better offers

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    anything can happen within that context of few hrs between issuance of cheque with OFFERtp and getting back the OPTIONtp.

    until then its at the whims of the seller to accept or not. no point panicking. in a busy market years back, i ever have issued for a few units and waiting on whichever comes back. until OPTIONtp is signed and in your hands then considered done deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuncle
    anything can happen within that context of few hrs between issuance of cheque with OFFERtp and getting back the OPTIONtp.

    until then its at the whims of the seller to accept or not. no point panicking. in a busy market years back, i ever have issued for a few units and waiting on whichever comes back. until OPTIONtp is signed and in your hands then considered done deal.
    Yes. Agents play important role. He will judge who is the weaker hand, or more desperate to sell or buy. It depends on the market sentiments. Whether it's seller or buyer market.

    If I am buyer, I will issue cheque with OTP filled in and get seller signature while agent nego with seller. If seller refuse then LL..

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    I also kena once before... Agent called and congratulated me that my offer has been accepted, met me up to collect the cheque and sign offertp... Agent seemed so confident and i very kay kiang immediately go sell away some shares to raise funds for the 20% ....

    Gome home waited and waited and waited how come no news from agent... called the agent then she apologetically told me seller needs more time to think, give them end of the week. Then end of the week told me seller decided not to sell

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    But the cheque is never banked in. If seller did not sign OTP but bank in the cheque, it's considered seller accept the offer by buyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cnud
    But the cheque is never banked in. If seller did not sign OTP but bank in the cheque, it's considered seller accept the offer by buyer.
    Ya the cheque was not banked in... so there was nothing i could do except for fxxking the agent upside down.

    So i agree with cnud that agent plays a very important role here in ensuring that its a secured deal.

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    u all keep saying agent play an important role but in buying private property where got agent represent buyer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtreme_46
    u all keep saying agent play an important role but in buying private property where got agent represent buyer?
    Have wat. But agent represent buyer also got its share of problem. Any agents would love to co-broke with seller agent. It's the seller's agent that may not want to co-broke.. That is the problem..

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    for agents who dont cobroke i immediately fire them

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuncle
    for agents who dont cobroke i immediately fire them
    Fire from the back....

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