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    Default US Debt increases by 4 billion per day

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/u-s-...a-took-office/

    In order to totally cancel out the effect of debt increase, you need to print 120b per month
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    That's where the conundrum takes place - fiscal cliff. Haha

    I have been pondering over this as well

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    Bernanke cannot print 120b per month because of China / Japan and world reserve currency in USD

    If he did that China/Japan may start dumping treasuries and the world will quickly exit the US currency as reserve

    So it is a balancing act, print 30% of debt

    But hoh, if Op Twist is 45b per month, MBS is 40b per month, then it is 85b per month, about 2/3 of the debt increase per month liao ... of course, lots of such money haven't gone into circulation, the saving grace for now
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/u-s-...a-took-office/

    In order to totally cancel out the effect of debt increase, you need to print 120b per month
    i hope they have enough ink...

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    TIPS ETF Rises to All-Time High on QE3, Inflation Expectations

    he he he he ... I wonder what China / Japan will do next
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    Quote Originally Posted by radha08
    i hope they have enough ink...
    is digital no ink required, US Fed buys MBS/bonds but crediting the banks accounts parked with Fed
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera
    is digital no ink required, US Fed buys MBS/bonds but crediting the banks accounts parked with Fed
    as long as he flying helicopter it wont stop enjoy the ride...


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    Wing tai bot that tiny piece of land for half a billion, us debt up 10x of that amount in one day, no wonder land price up a pathetic 1psf per day
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    After they pump zillion of dollar into the banking system.... They will crash the banking system computer. They will say "no need to panic, systems are being restore". In the mean time your money is stuck. They will issue a new promisory note backed by gold as a replacement. When the system is restored, your old dollar wil be significantly depreciated to the new gold backed promissory notes.

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    Thumbs down

    they can do a reset or start some wars.

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    Since US has the largest gold reserve in the world, they will push the gold price to highest possible....maybe 10.000 an oz. In the mean time hard asset will appreciate in value.

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    Remember there is a debt ceiling.

    You cant simply print and spend as the report suggest.

    QE is not spending either so if that is taken for calulation than its wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47
    Remember there is a debt ceiling.

    You cant simply print and spend as the report suggest.

    QE is not spending either so if that is taken for calulation than its wrong.
    I think with all these debts... They only try to manage it. Up to a point they can. Attempt to repay it is impossible.

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    Debt ceiling that's why usd not crashed yet
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    Default US debt up 195b in October, 6.3b per day

    As of several hours ago, US announced the total debt as of October 31, or the first completed month of fiscal 2013. The number: $16.262 trillion. This means that in the month of October, Uncle Sam went to town, and raised $195 billion. This amounts to $6.3 billion per calendar (not work) day, and $262 million per calendar (not work) hour.

    to put things into perspective ... USD195b can buy about 500 pieces of Prince Charles Crescent in Singapore

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    See the debt clock
    http://www.usdebtclock.org/

    then u will see how fast it is

    and the world debt clock

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laguna
    See the debt clock
    http://www.usdebtclock.org/

    then u will see how fast it is

    and the world debt clock

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

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    Annual US Debt Creation Now Amounts To 25% Of GDP Compared To 8.7% Pre-Crisis

    The US government is now trying to repay old debt by borrowing more; in 2010, average annual debt creation (including debt refinance) moved above $4 trillion, or almost one-quarter of GDP, compared to the pre-crisis average of 8.7% of GDP."
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    16.5T and counting ... don't worry, market already factored in a debt escalating to 20T or 150% of GDP

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera
    16.5T and counting ... don't worry, market already factored in a debt escalating to 20T or 150% of GDP

    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...0Deficit_0.jpg
    Japan did not die!!!
    so if US follow Japan to take the % of debt to GDP, then US still have tons of rooms to grow their debts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera
    TIPS ETF Rises to All-Time High on QE3, Inflation Expectations

    he he he he ... I wonder what China / Japan will do next


    Interest rates rising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laguna
    Japan did not die!!!
    so if US follow Japan to take the % of debt to GDP, then US still have tons of rooms to grow their debts!
    Basing a past experience on a future event possibility can prove to be very costly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera
    Annual US Debt Creation Now Amounts To 25% Of GDP Compared To 8.7% Pre-Crisis

    The US government is now trying to repay old debt by borrowing more; in 2010, average annual debt creation (including debt refinance) moved above $4 trillion, or almost one-quarter of GDP, compared to the pre-crisis average of 8.7% of GDP."
    Don't worry - everyone is all-in, not just the US. The only question would be who stands the highest chance of being the last one standing.

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    As a side note, I wonder how many of the seniors in this forum recognise that they were in the right time at the right place. By the latter it is obviously Singapore, and the former that they were in the expansionistic phase of the debt super cycle that spans every 70 to 90 years.

    I have seen a lot of youngster bashing in this forum. While some is justified, others are too extreme and generalised.

    Knowing what I know, I find the advice that has worked for many seniors here to be impractical for what is likely to come. Those of my generation should spend the effort in looking for new opportunities or new ways of creating money rather than relying solely on the tried and tested. In short: Different eras, different methods, but with everlasting principles.

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