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    Quote Originally Posted by stalingrad
    I went to many FEO projects, BH, lakeshore, hillview regency, gardenvista. they all look the same, cramped and stuffy with IKEA furnishings. You see one and you have seen them all.

    I just don't buy anything with the FEO logo.
    one of their strategies is to target HDB upgraders ...who are used to multi storey carpark...who are used to living in 3 bedroom 850-900 sqft ..

    so when they have 1200-1300 sqft for 3 bedroom ...its heaven to them ... so they BUY ...

    a friend of mine used to live in Heritage View .. 3+1 1163 sqft ... paid about 800k at launch ..

    in late 2006 i recommended him to sell ..at 870k for his 1163 sqft 99 yr FEO project , heritage view at North buona vista area .. and ...
    bought a FH , 3 + 1 , 1660 sqft at South buona vista rd ...

    he didnt make much from the sale..BUT after 1 yr ... Heritage view never went above 1 mio, for that 1163 sqft ... BUT his South buona vista unit, FH 1660 sqft went to almost 1.5 mio ....

    he thanked me with a paid golf game at Ria Bintan ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    one of their strategies is to target HDB upgraders ...who are used to multi storey carpark...who are used to living in 3 bedroom 850-900 sqft ..

    so when they have 1200-1300 sqft for 3 bedroom ...its heaven to them ... so they BUY ...

    a friend of mine used to live in Heritage View .. 3+1 1163 sqft ... paid about 800k at launch ..

    in late 2006 i recommended him to sell ..at 870k for his 1163 sqft 99 yr FEO project , heritage view at North buona vista area .. and ...
    bought a FH , 3 + 1 , 1660 sqft at South buona vista rd ...

    he didnt make much from the sale..BUT after 1 yr ... Heritage view never went above 1 mio, for that 1163 sqft ... BUT his South buona vista unit, FH 1660 sqft went to almost 1.5 mio ....

    he thanked me with a paid golf game at Ria Bintan ...
    Agree, it is better to invest in Prime FH projects than 99 leasehold projects as the former would appreciate at a much faster rate. Depending on which time you enter the market, it could also depreciate faster.... current prime projects had fallen about 20% to 40%???? on average?


    High risk high gain, low risk low gain. A mistake is made when you end up with high risk low gain/no gain/lost but not when you have low risk low gain/high gain. BH is a low risk project that time. Even clementi woods and varsity park are low risk projects, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    You do have a sense of humor ..i am sorry i called you OLD MAN before ...
    huh? It alright manz! Don't mentioned it.. the CW incident I expecting the defender cher coming in actually..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonleelk
    Garden Vista is actually D21...same as Jardin and Floridian. However, the later 2 are FH.

    All 3 basement carparks.
    Yup Yup.. you are right. But FEO only do the marketing for Floridian. The rest I think by Wing Tai/Orchard Parade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Condorich
    I quite like BH though not a owner there. I do agree that savings in MSP should translate to cheaper prices and it seems that it is not the case. Caspian versus Mi Casa, similiar pricing and one with basement carpark. Well, if I am a developer, I would use demand and supply to set the pricing and not my actual cost as I would want to maximise my profits, nothing wrong with that. Simple economics dudes :P
    Econ? demand and supply? How I wish you are the developer than, I will certainly buy from you in bear time..

    I would say land cost, construction cost, development charge + plot ratio x land size = GFA to set the cost. Then come design, demand + supply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalingrad
    yes, demand and supply will determine prices. So, we the buyers will not demand FEO properties given its shoddy quality and multi-storey car park. yes, I fully agree that all FEO properties are crap, including blue horizon, where even the windows don't open fully, not to mention the noise from west coast highway.

    Some ang moh wrote a story a year or two ago saying that blue horizon is haunted. Not sure that is true or not, but his story makes interesting reading.
    If it don't get you any trouble, how about sharing the BH haunted story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple3
    Econ? demand and supply? How I wish you are the developer than, I will certainly buy from you in bear time..

    I would say land cost, construction cost, development charge + plot ratio x land size = GFA to set the cost. Then come design, demand + supply.
    Yes... that is basic cost... the minimum cost that a developer should be selling to break even. Anything above it is margins and profit... demand + supply will determine the margins and profit.

    I believe in really bear times, developers could also be off loading at or below cost, cheap sales. Anyone can share a example? 1997?


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    Blue Horizon, Tower B, one of the 2 bedrooms unit in 20th storey has been sold for $751250 (969) $776 psf dated 29 July 09. After this, hope price of other units at BH will go up too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JXCHIA
    Blue Horizon, Tower B, one of the 2 bedrooms unit in 20th storey has been sold for $751250 (969) $776 psf dated 29 July 09. After this, hope price of other units at BH will go up too.
    Hmm.. I heard from some agents that Coastal Height (the new condo next to BH) will be launched soon. Is it true?

    If so, the psf may not be in the $700 psf range since the developer tendered for the land at the peak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas
    Hmm.. I heard from some agents that Coastal Height (the new condo next to BH) will be launched soon. Is it true?

    If so, the psf may not be in the $700 psf range since the developer tendered for the land at the peak.
    Is the horizon from here really BLUE! There is flaring from the chimney coupled with long vehicles along the coastal road!

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    21 West Coast Crescent #13-03
    99 Yrs From 14/08/2000
    $735
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    27 West Coast Crescent #07-21
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    21 West Coast Crescent #07-02
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    27 West Coast Crescent #17-23
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    23 West Coast Crescent #12-10
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    29 West Coast Crescent #06-25
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    29 West Coast Crescent #20-25
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    Thumbs down You Blue on Blue Horizon???

    Hi all,

    I read all your responses in this thread & couldn't find a single positive comment on this condo..

    1) First off, do you own a unit in this condo?
    2) With so many grouses, and so much "advice" to others to sell out of this condo, its not hard to look deeper into some of these "advice" as attempts to "short" this condo prices?
    3) Granted you have experience in other FEO projects, do you really think all projects from the same developer will be "lemons" forever? (P.S. even D10 super ex condos also got construction faults la...)
    4) Perhaps you should spend some time actually living in this condo, to see that it is full of life/people and the facilities are OK.
    5) I don't own a unit here (yet) but I am often there with relatives who live there. So i know what I can see, hear and feel...
    6) On fussy mentions abt the MSCPs, its like a storm in a teacup.. Hardly substantial in the grand scheme of things...
    7) Not all HDB dwellers actually live in "beehives"... some stayed in jumbo or 5 rm units that are BIGGER than the largest apartment (barring the penthouse) in BH... So not all are always awed by the "BIGGER" floor areas in these condos....and to boot, some of these HDB unit's interior decor dun lose out to the "nice" fittings in condos too...

    I am not propagating any partisan views here nor trying to be a flame bait; just adding wat i see and experience every time i am there... Pure and honest truth...

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    i find this project suits for retirement place.. really quiet.. somemore near to city.. i really like the place a lot becoz went there a few times to my ex colleagues place it do feels good. i believe IR comes this place rental will rise as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor14
    i find this project suits for retirement place.. really quiet.. somemore near to city.. i really like the place a lot becoz went there a few times to my ex colleagues place it do feels good. i believe IR comes this place rental will rise as well.

    quiet ??

    i almost bought a unit in 2006 .. but was very very turned off when i went viewing and saw chinese mainlanders ( probably tenants) eating fishballs in a satay stick while they are in the pool ...

    so so dirty

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    But i don see any now overthere.. i think tats in the past.. now is been more in the expats and the place is really better compare to 2006 which u had painted.. think u should make a trip dw there to see ba.. I recently also bring buyers there to view.. pretty gd but did not buy becoz his wife wks at novena.. sianz

    Quote Originally Posted by proud owner
    quiet ??

    i almost bought a unit in 2006 .. but was very very turned off when i went viewing and saw chinese mainlanders ( probably tenants) eating fishballs in a satay stick while they are in the pool ...

    so so dirty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor14
    But i don see any now overthere.. i think tats in the past.. now is been more in the expats and the place is really better compare to 2006 which u had painted.. think u should make a trip dw there to see ba.. I recently also bring buyers there to view.. pretty gd but did not buy becoz his wife wks at novena.. sianz
    in that case happy for the owners staying there ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor14
    i find this project suits for retirement place.. really quiet.. somemore near to city.. i really like the place a lot becoz went there a few times to my ex colleagues place it do feels good. i believe IR comes this place rental will rise as well.
    quiet? blue horizon? isn't there noise from west coast highway for west/south/north facing units (not pool facing)? we've viewed such facing units and cannot stand the noise. guess east facing or pool facing not noisy but didn't view any. or u mean residents there not noisy?

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    or u mean residents there not noisy? I guess so. I notice that projects with big outdoor common area (pool, BBQ pit) tend to be noisier, coz more people have fun outside and all pool facing units can hear their noise, especially if the blks surround common area, sound is trapped inside and echo back. BH is U shape, and BBQ pits/children playground scattered in separate places.

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    my quiet is refering to the ppl there and the ambience.. i mean as long there is road there will sure be noises jus like ppl say wan to stay near mrt station but don want to hear the mrt noise.. there are pros and cons.. what most of the buyers wan is resale value, the feeling towards the project, surrounding gd schs etc.. but most impt is money well spent.. hee..

    Quote Originally Posted by housewife
    or u mean residents there not noisy? I guess so. I notice that projects with big outdoor common area (pool, BBQ pit) tend to be noisier, coz more people have fun outside and all pool facing units can hear their noise, especially if the blks surround common area, sound is trapped inside and echo back. BH is U shape, and BBQ pits/children playground scattered in separate places.

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    Hi, any sellers or agents here? I am keen to buy one 2 room or 2.5 rooms at blue horizon. If you have sellers kindly contact me at 81688088 (Francis) tks

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    Quote Originally Posted by JXCHIA
    Hi, any sellers or agents here? I am keen to buy one 2 room or 2.5 rooms at blue horizon. If you have sellers kindly contact me at 81688088 (Francis) tks
    15/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES CDO 99 1216
    $905 $1,100,000
    Val:$0k John Lee 93837878 2289160
    Details 20/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99

    ANTHONY 93630688 2291649
    Details 20/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99

    Lena Low 90090700 1934996
    Details 20/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 1200
    $825 $990,000

    SEAN LOW J T 93870005 2093971
    Details 19/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES CDO 99 1163
    $851 $990,000

    Val:$0k SERENE LOW S L 96954599 2273821
    Details 19/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 1163

    TERENCE 98730948 2278521
    Details 13/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES CDO 99 1152
    $964 $1,110,000
    Val:$0k ANTHONY 93630688 2286062
    Details 13/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES 99

    WINSON CHAN 94890990 2289155
    Details 13/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES 99

    Lena Low 90090700 1811108
    Details 13/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 960
    $833 $799,680
    DANIEL 97554568 My Shop Front 1834418
    Details
    11/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 1163

    Janet Fong 96420875 2195934
    Details 09/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES CDO 99 1216
    $806 $980,000
    Val:$0k SERENE LOW S L 96954599 2257092
    Details 06/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 1163

    MR CHEW 91688998 2278532
    Details 05/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 1152
    $859 $989,568
    ELVIN CHEONG 90697177 2084700
    Details 27/02/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 1163
    $712
    Lena Low 90090700 1696081
    Details 27/02/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 904

    Lena Low 90090700 2039652
    Details 27/02/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99

    TERENCE 98730948 2268812
    Details 26/02/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99

    DANNY KOH C K 90303338 2266551
    Details

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    Quote Originally Posted by Condorich
    15/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES CDO 99 1216
    $905 $1,100,000
    Val:$0k John Lee 93837878 2289160
    Details 20/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99

    ANTHONY 93630688 2291649
    Details 20/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99

    Lena Low 90090700 1934996
    Details 20/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 1200
    $825 $990,000

    SEAN LOW J T 93870005 2093971
    Details 19/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES CDO 99 1163
    $851 $990,000

    Val:$0k SERENE LOW S L 96954599 2273821
    Details 19/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 1163

    TERENCE 98730948 2278521
    Details 13/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES CDO 99 1152
    $964 $1,110,000
    Val:$0k ANTHONY 93630688 2286062
    Details 13/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES 99

    WINSON CHAN 94890990 2289155
    Details 13/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES 99

    Lena Low 90090700 1811108
    Details 13/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 960
    $833 $799,680
    DANIEL 97554568 My Shop Front 1834418
    Details
    11/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 1163

    Janet Fong 96420875 2195934
    Details 09/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES CDO 99 1216
    $806 $980,000
    Val:$0k SERENE LOW S L 96954599 2257092
    Details 06/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 1163

    MR CHEW 91688998 2278532
    Details 05/03/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 1152
    $859 $989,568
    ELVIN CHEONG 90697177 2084700
    Details 27/02/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 1163
    $712
    Lena Low 90090700 1696081
    Details 27/02/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99 904

    Lena Low 90090700 2039652
    Details 27/02/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99

    TERENCE 98730948 2268812
    Details 26/02/10 05BLUE HORIZON
    WEST COAST CRES APT 99

    DANNY KOH C K 90303338 2266551
    Details
    lazt to see one by one, can call me tks

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    Quote Originally Posted by JXCHIA, 22 March 2010 11.33 pm
    lazt to see one by one, can call me tks
    Err ... "Condorich" has provided you with the contacts for free and now you want him to call you? I just wonder why would he want to do that? Who knows? Maybe he has nothing better to do or maybe he owes you a living?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reporter
    Quote Originally Posted by JXCHIA
    lazt to see one by one, can call me tks
    Err ... "Condorich" has provided you with the contacts for free and now you want him to call you? I just wonder why would he want to do that? Who knows? Maybe he has nothing better to do or maybe he owes you a living?
    This is really very very strange.

    Shouldn't the interested buyer be the one to call the advertisers and make comparisons?

    The world gets stranger by the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlrx
    This is really very very strange.

    Shouldn't the interested buyer be the one to call the advertisers and make comparisons?

    The world gets stranger by the day.
    There are "good" buyers...and then you have the rest.

    Ask for "song".

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    SINGAPORE: A woman who was suffering from depression has been sentenced to 15 months' probation for stealing drinks and rice from a condominium storage room.

    Ong Shi Han, a 23-year-old law graduate, stole eight boxes of Pokka drinks, a sack of rice and some electrical items - a two-pin power plug and an extension socket - from a storage room in Blue Horizon condominum in West Coast Crescent in November 2011.

    The items were worth about S$450.

    She committed the offence with her boyfriend, Jeremy Kuek Beng Kiat, also 23. Kuek, an aeronautical engineering student, was sentenced to a day's jail and fined S$3,000 in May.

    In addition to stealing the items, Kuek also forged two receipts to prove that he and Ong had paid for the stolen goods at Giant Tampines hypermarket and Guardian Health and Beauty.

    Ong was ordered by the district judge to attend psychiatric treatment to alleviate her depression. Noting that Ong's condition is the underlying cause of her behaviour, the judge also ordered Ong to comply with her medication regime.

    Ong's parents, who were both in court, signed a S$6,000 bond to ensure her good behaviour.

    After sentencing, Ong changed from a pink dress into a green top and black skirt and wore hair extensions to avoid being recognised.

    -CNA/ac

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    Even old condo Blue Horizon also playing catch-up game.. and breaking its own record in term of psf..

    BLUE HORIZON WEST COAST CRESCENT Condominium 1,150,000 958 Strata 1,200psf Mar-13

    All thanks to its neighbour FEO Seahill.. reaching 1800psf

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    Default Re: Blue Horizon (D5, 99-year leasehold, Far East Organization)

    Hi, anyone looking to sell 3 or 3+1 bedroom at Blue Horizon? Looking for stacks XX-09, XX-13, XX-16 or XX-22. Please mail at [email protected] if interested.

    Thanks!

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