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Thread: ECO at Bedok South near Tanah Merah MRT (FEO)

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera
    @Amber Woods .... why compare to SOHO?? SOHO is 3.4m high ceiling ... personally I will not buy too

    Just put it this way, at preview, 1152sqft 3br cost 1200psf ... that should be the reference for comparison ... not SOHO prices
    You bring up a very good point. SOHO is 3.4m high so it is different.

    The developers are selling this idea but I don't. They (the developers) are laughting their way to the bank if more people buy into their idea.

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    SOHO of only 3.4m cannot do much. It has to be at least 4.3m to have a mezzanine floor.
    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera
    @Amber Woods .... why compare to SOHO?? SOHO is 3.4m high ceiling ... personally I will not buy too

    Just put it this way, at preview, 1152sqft 3br cost 1200psf ... that should be the reference for comparison ... not SOHO prices

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC33_2008
    SOHO of only 3.4m cannot do much. It has to be at least 4.3m to have a mezzanine floor.
    Already said ... the SOHO layout of ECO is a mistake ... u open door see kitchen and toilet

    For me SOHO is the biggest con of the years
    Ride at your own risk !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amber Woods
    SIgh!

    Instead of criticisig my writing in this thread, you are now trying to confuse readers with a SINGLE QUOTE from another thread on a different subject and said you understand.

    I am usually polite with my writing and hence I have no wish to engage you any further. Readers will decide the credibility of your doing.
    u quoted "I find these lines very familiar when discussing or negotiating with housing agents. I shall fade away from this thread for obvious reasons"

    There is nothing wrong of being housing agents, they put in their hard work to earn their livings. And in fact, there are many successful ones as well.

    I find your statements are rather insulting to me, when I asked u to share, u cannot share at all, just pointing to the web links and ask people to do their research and saying the lines I wrote very familiar.

    I read your past postings to understand you better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera
    Already said ... the SOHO layout of ECO is a mistake ... u open door see kitchen and toilet

    For me SOHO is the biggest con of the years
    Believe SOHO,Townhouse,compact 2/3 bedroom residential properties will each have its own preferred buyers in addition to the usual 3/4 bedroom & PH units. That's why there are more of them in the markets being built by developers now and most are selling rather well.

    One man's meat is another man's poison. One need to know that diversity is strength. All of them (SOHO/Townhouse/Compact) can live happily ever after in the same development with shared resources(pool/Gym/tennis court etc.)...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu1245
    Believe SOHO,Townhouse,compact 2/3 bedroom residential properties will each have its own preferred buyers in addition to the usual 3/4 bedroom & PH units. That's why there are more of them in the markets being built by developers now and most are selling rather well.

    One man's meat is another man's poison. One need to know that diversity is strength. All of them (SOHO/Townhouse/Compact) can live happily ever after in the same development with shared resources(pool/Gym/tennis court etc.)...........
    u bought one ... if for own stay no comment ... i am only commenting based on rental perspective (i.e how to justify much higher rental with only 0.5m higher ceiling)
    Ride at your own risk !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vip
    http://propertysoul.com/2012/10/08/the-fear-of-losing-out-part-ii-eco-showflat/

    The fear of losing out (part II: eCO showflat)

    October 8, 2012

    One Sunday afternoon hubby and I drove past the second property that I bought in 2003.

    Next to it, we were surprised to see the carpark almost full at the eCO showflat.

    The site of eCO is an empty slope right in front of Bedok Court. I remember the grass on this slope has been replanted at least twice in three years, probably to hold the loose soil.

    On the left of the site is a whole stretch of land built with Terraces and Semi-Detached houses, extending all the way to the coastline.

    Mentioned in his book Secrets of Property Millionaires, this is also where property investor Rayney Wong bought three Semi-Detached houses at $1.8 to 1.9 million at the peak of the property market in 1996, and later forced to sell at a loss of $1.3 million.

    We were greeted by a Far East sales representative. As you may know, an in-house sales is usually less experienced than an agency representative.

    So when the Far East staff commented that Bedok Court is an HUDC, I quickly bit my lower lip not to let out a giggle.

    He was also convinced that we would come back after driving around the neigborhood. Unfortunately, he forgot to take down our contacts before we left.

    Anyway, the first showflat showcased a 2-bedder with basic finishings, tiny rooms and no bathtub.

    The 3-bedder showflat was no better. It claims to have 1,270 sq ft but looks at most 900 sq ft, losing the precious space for the big balconies. The combined living and dining room is so small that it can only fit a long (rather than round-shaped) dining table. The kitchen is much smaller than the ones in all the 1-bedders I’ve purchased before. The crowd there made the place look even more crammed.

    The sales representative told us that there were only two units of 3-bedders left (really?). They are selling at $1.8 million and $1.83 million (i.e. $1,417 psf and $1,441 psf respectively) after discount. The condo blocks are facing each other with no view at all. And the units won’t be ready until 2017.

    What? For $1.8 million, I can buy a 2,400 sq ft full seaview 3-bedder at nearby Bedok Court with less than $750 psf. And even a 600 sq ft 1-bedder is asking over $1 million (over $1,700 psf).

    He asked us to be fast, hinting at a few group of buyers at the discussion tables ready to place a deposit.

    I could vaguely recall when I went to view my nearby second property in 2003, the 1-bedder was also close to 1,200 sq ft. Unlike the eCO, it came with huge living/dining room and bedroom. And it was asking for only $300 psf!

    During the two viewings, I was the only buyer there. The agent almost begged me to buy.

    I remember looking out of the window at the breath-taking seaview, wondering why no other buyer came to fight with me for this big ‘gem’ here.

    Now thinking back, I am grateful for this. For over the years, the property had generated very good rental return. At the end, I managed to sell it for a 119 percent profit.

    At this moment, with this crowd of enthusiastic buyers hustling before my eyes, I couldn’t help but wondering what’s on their mind.

    Are they hoping that this property can still give them a reasonable rental return at $1,400 to 1,700 psf? Or it can miraculously double in value when they sell it in a few years’ time?

    Do they have the need for accommodation so imminent that there is no other alternative but to buy right now?

    Or is it simply the Singapore kiasu culture that makes the fear of missing the boat more frightening than making a big loss?

    Believe some are long term investors looking at rental or own stay. If these people can hold onto this property even if there is a crisis, why dicourage them from buying? For those who want to speculate property, then have to watch out as nothing is for sure.

    Judging from past inflation (e.g. price of coffee in 2003 vs 2012(now)), will property price go up or down over long term(10yrs or more). You can judge for yourself........

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    alamak 2003 is the sars year of course nobody come and view property la...u go and do viewing and agent suddenly take out tissue paper...Ah Ah Ahhhh Choooo" u dive on the floor take cover how to sign OTP...

    http://infopedia.nl.sg/articles/SIP_...009-06-03.html

    2003 u dare to buy sure win ma....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laguna
    In response to the above posting, I think the writer has only seen one new project. If he has the opportunities to see more, he will realise all the new developments are of the about same standard in term of space usage.

    Next, I searched up and down the entire price list of these two units mentioned, sorry to say, there are no such units.
    @Laguna,
    So the 1.8 million for the 2 units of 3 bedrooms is FAKE?
    I recall Mrs Soh bought at this price:
    Retiree Soh Poh Neo, 56, said she bought a 1,152 sq ft three-bedder for
    > $1.37 million, or $1,188 psf, as an investment for her son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CP5211
    @Laguna,
    So the 1.8 million for the 2 units of 3 bedrooms is FAKE?
    I recall Mrs Soh bought at this price:
    Retiree Soh Poh Neo, 56, said she bought a 1,152 sq ft three-bedder for
    > $1.37 million, or $1,188 psf, as an investment for her son.
    I think so...I went to eCO yesterday to take picture before the closing of the 3 -bedroom showflat...and after checking, there is no such units at such prices....

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    Thought all condos are sold but per latest price list, 2 condos (15-31 and 15-30) still available ... Effect of the MAS regulation ...

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    What's the price tag on those 2 units?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC33_2008
    SOHO of only 3.4m cannot do much. It has to be at least 4.3m to have a mezzanine floor.
    3.4m SOHO can sell better in the middle earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kane
    What's the price tag on those 2 units?
    Per price list on website, before discount its around

    a. 15-31 = $2,340K for 1,356 sqf and
    b. 15-30 = $2,240K for 1,367 sqf

    After discount of 14.5% (assuming 10% base+2% vicinity+1%vicinity +1.5% FV)

    a. 15-31 = $2,000K for 1,356 sqf ($1,475psf) and
    b. 15-30 = $1,915K for 1,367 sqf ($1,401 psf)

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    $2m for a 3 bed, are the units that alluring??

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    Quote Originally Posted by kane
    $2m for a 3 bed, are the units that alluring??
    These two should be the loft units

    perhaps these are the two units referred by vip

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    Ok that explains the $2m price tag. At 1300 including loft area, effective built in should be 1050sqft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadiny
    Per price list on website, before discount its around

    a. 15-31 = $2,340K for 1,356 sqf and
    b. 15-30 = $2,240K for 1,367 sqf

    After discount of 14.5% (assuming 10% base+2% vicinity+1%vicinity +1.5% FV)

    a. 15-31 = $2,000K for 1,356 sqf ($1,475psf) and
    b. 15-30 = $1,915K for 1,367 sqf ($1,401 psf)
    This is quoted by
    http://propertysoul.com/2012/10/08/t...-eco-showflat/
    The sales representative told us that there were only two units of 3-bedders left (really?). They are selling at $1.8 million and $1.83 million (i.e. $1,417 psf and $1,441 psf respectively) after discount.

    cannot reconcile the numbers lah....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laguna
    This is quoted by
    http://propertysoul.com/2012/10/08/t...-eco-showflat/
    The sales representative told us that there were only two units of 3-bedders left (really?). They are selling at $1.8 million and $1.83 million (i.e. $1,417 psf and $1,441 psf respectively) after discount.

    cannot reconcile the numbers lah....
    The discounts are removed, lowered so the list price though remain unchanged but effective price has increased.

    My guess only lah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kane
    Ok that explains the $2m price tag. At 1300 including loft area, effective built in should be 1050sqft?
    There about
    especially when u exclude the staircase and the double volume for the loft

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    482 units done
    so far, no unit been returned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laguna
    482 units done
    so far, no unit been returned
    0 return rate, thats amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuncle
    0 return rate, thats amazing
    Looking at the timeline
    should hv better view next week

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    Top seller in Sept.

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    The new upper changi road site (beside tanah merah) is closed!

    Highest bid is by Keppel Land at $8,518.75 psm of GFA which is even higher than Fragrance/worldclass site and Eco of $7,277 psm and $5,750 psm respectively!!!!

    Eco chiong!

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    $791psf
    FEO is going to up the price
    HUAT

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    $791psf
    FEO is going to up the price
    HUAT

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    Btw Far east and gang did bid for this land at $7,151 psm, ranking 4th in term of bid value!

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    Congratulations. Is this be the 2nd highest psf bid of OCR?

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    Fragrance bidded aggressively as well, lost out to Keppel by a margin... bidded $739 psf.

    Really bang balls...

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