Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Singapore, a Millionaire's country.

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    56

    Default Singapore, a Millionaire's country.

    Reading through articles and articles about housing hitting the 1 million mark, Be it the $1000 psf condos, to the 900k HDBs. Even now, it is news to find private houses below the $1m price range.

    It is almost impossible to live in Singapore without being a millionaire. Remember the days where people's dream were to become millionaires.

    Now that their dreams have come true, is this really what they were expecting?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    637

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FilthyRich
    Reading through articles and articles about housing hitting the 1 million mark, Be it the $1000 psf condos, to the 900k HDBs. Even now, it is news to find private houses below the $1m price range.

    It is almost impossible to live in Singapore without being a millionaire. Remember the days where people's dream were to become millionaires.

    Now that their dreams have come true, is this really what they were expecting?
    Depends on how it is defined. For many they are "house poor". Their condo may have inflated to over 1million but their mortgage is still substantial.

    Even if no mortgage, you can't eat or spend your toilet so your wealth is locked up if your apt is pretty much your only asset.


    Merrill Lynch describes HNWIs as those who hold at least US$1 million in financial assets with both excluding collectibles, consumables, consumer durables and primary residences.

    This definition of millionaire seems to make more sense to me.
    The definition of all assets = 1 million including your home - really no one is better off unless you are prepared to cash out and ship out of Singapore.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    444

    Default

    It's not the assets alone that determine whether the person is millionaire... it's net worth.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    349

    Default

    Total net worth = Assets - liabilities - own residence

    A millionaire is someone who has at least one million (I prefer in USD) in assets, minus all debts and minus the value of the place he is staying.

    Reason: since you need to live in this place anyway, whether your residence increases or decreases in value has nothing to do with you.

    The way to become a millionaire:

    1) Buy/rent your residence at its best value.

    2) Buy with cash or pay off the loan as soon as you can.

    3) After (personal) loan-free, save for sound investment.

    ... and becoming a millionaire won't be far in sight.

    P.S. You can reach there earlier if you change the currency sign before the million
    Last edited by vip; 25-05-12 at 15:17.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    56

    Default

    I believe with a million dollars aside from Asian countries, you can do a whole lot more. house, car, with lots more spare

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    349

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FilthyRich
    I believe with a million dollars aside from Asian countries, you can do a whole lot more. house, car, with lots more spare
    The same amount may be used differently in different countries. But they may not be comparable to Singapore in terms of quality of life, including safety, efficiency, air quality, etc. And you don't need to be a millionaire in Singapore to enjoy all these!

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    2,094

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by vip
    The same amount may be used differently in different countries. But they may not be comparable to Singapore in terms of quality of life, including safety, efficiency, air quality, etc. And you don't need to be a millionaire in Singapore to enjoy all these!
    well said..

    I took the road less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.” - Robert Frost quotes (American poet, 1874-1963)

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    8,926

    Default 寸金难买寸光阴

    寸金难买寸光阴

    天生我材必有用,千金散尽还复来。
    Ride at your own risk !!!

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    2,141

    Default

    cheap housing r aplenty for 80% of the population, 300k to 400k hdb r plentiful. many can retire as early as 40s if they dont chase after material wealth and status.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    8,926

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Allthepies
    cheap housing r aplenty for 80% of the population, 300k to 400k hdb r plentiful. many can retire as early as 40s if they dont chase after material wealth and status.
    Me not chasing material wealth ... we are only trying to hedge against inflation so we will not need to burden anybody when retiring

    Think about it, reported inflation is 5%, actual inflation could be as high as 7% ... CPF OA paid 2.5% ... CPF SA/MA paid 4% ... 10y corp bond paid 5%

    How to survive without investment properties to hedge?
    Ride at your own risk !!!

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    6,003

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera
    Me not chasing material wealth ... we are only trying to hedge against inflation so we will not need to burden anybody when retiring

    Think about it, reported inflation is 5%, actual inflation could be as high as 7% ... CPF OA paid 2.5% ... CPF SA/MA paid 4% ... 10y corp bond paid 5%

    How to survive without investment properties to hedge?
    But it depends on whether you can find tenants paying decent rental, or another crazy buyer paying an even higher price. If not the maintenance and interest rate will eat more into the investment. Really in a dilemma now.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    8,013

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hyenergix
    But it depends on whether you can find tenants paying decent rental, or another crazy buyer paying an even higher price. If not the maintenance and interest rate will eat more into the investment. Really in a dilemma now.
    So now when looking for tenants, die die also must secure at least 2 year rent and avoid the headache of looking for tenants every year and the potential hazard of leaving the unit empty for prolong period of time...

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    4,990

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Allthepies
    cheap housing r aplenty for 80% of the population, 300k to 400k hdb r plentiful. many can retire as early as 40s if they dont chase after material wealth and status.
    Ya but how many hdb can one buy? It is useless for generating passive income if its the only property you have.

Similar Threads

  1. Singapore becomes world's most vaccinated country
    By reporter2 in forum Coffeeshop Talk
    Replies: 1
    -: 29-08-21, 17:02
  2. Replies: 0
    -: 04-10-16, 18:59
  3. Hong Kong Overtakes Singapore in Millionaire numbers
    By hutsutau in forum HDB, EC, commercial and industrial property discussion
    Replies: 2
    -: 21-06-13, 21:30
  4. Singapore is most emotionless and least positive country
    By phantom_opera in forum Coffeeshop Talk
    Replies: 5
    -: 21-12-12, 11:56
  5. Welcome to Millionaire Country!
    By mr funny in forum HDB, EC, commercial and industrial property discussion
    Replies: 10
    -: 14-10-09, 22:51

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •