ECG Landed Property Collection?

[bullman]

Found a good deal at last in D15. Off I go for viewing with cheque.

[land118]

Found a good deal at last in D15. Off I go for viewing with cheque.

Solid man! Early bird catches the worm. Best of luck!

[Blue]

I was looking very hard in D15 and most original condition small inter terrace are going for 1100 to 1200 psf

Smaller landed houses like studios and 1 bedders in condos sell at higher psf because of low quantum in terms of $$$.

You be surprised that a search on propertyguru for D20 - smaller land 1000 sqft are asking $1500psf already!

[Blue]

Looking at my friends' landed, I would say landed is actually high maintenance. Those that claim low maintenance actually didn't really maintain well, or are very lucky with their sound structure, good contractors workmanship, lack of pests or weeds, no heavy digging nearby etc. So you won't get into arguments over maintenance in landed, but you either save and let the house rot or pay to restore the condition.

Try buying apartments or cluster house, and you will know what is high maintenance. This is especially true if you hardly use the facilities while your neighbours use / abuse them to the max extent, and you'll have to pay for their actions.

Landed if designed and built correctly, can save a lot on maintenance. Most problem area is the exterior facade which need to invest in wall claddings that are weather proof. No need to pay $300 to $400 per month like condos. Condos if want to repaint the weathered facade have to wait 5 yrs and see if sinking funds enough to support or not. Landed, you can do it anytime or even DIY.

[buttercarp]

I think that in your case, the difference can get you a baby Lambo.

I'd rather use that kind of money to buy an MM.
Btw.... did you get the landed that you were eyeing at?

[hyenergix]

Try buying apartments or cluster house, and you will know what is high maintenance. This is especially true if you hardly use the facilities while your neighbours use / abuse them to the max extent, and you'll have to pay for their actions.

Landed if designed and built correctly, can save a lot on maintenance. Most problem area is the exterior facade which need to invest in wall claddings that are weather proof. No need to pay $300 to $400 per month like condos. Condos if want to repaint the weathered facade have to wait 5 yrs and see if sinking funds enough to support or not. Landed, you can do it anytime or even DIY.

DIY for landed is impractical, dangerous and not cost-effective. If you can afford to stay in landed, please don't scrimp on maintenance. It's like seeing luxurious drivers kenna parking ticket - Malu.

[buttercarp]

DIY for landed is impractical, dangerous and not cost-effective. If you can afford to stay in landed, please don't scrimp on maintenance. It's like seeing luxurious drivers kenna parking ticket - Malu.

Ya lor.... just set aside $300 aside every month, as though paying monthly maintenance in a condo.

[lajia]

Try buying apartments or cluster house, and you will know what is high maintenance. This is especially true if you hardly use the facilities while your neighbours use / abuse them to the max extent, and you'll have to pay for their actions.

Landed if designed and built correctly, can save a lot on maintenance. Most problem area is the exterior facade which need to invest in wall claddings that are weather proof. No need to pay $300 to $400 per month like condos. Condos if want to repaint the weathered facade have to wait 5 yrs and see if sinking funds enough to support or not. Landed, you can do it anytime or even DIY.

why cluster house high maintenance? I thought condo also paying maintenance? I would say it will not be worthwhile if you pay and not able to use the facility or something like that...in fact, i prefer cluster house got security, got gym, etc...i dont intend to rebuilt or to do anything extra or modify it though. and at least i know the area is guarded especially some of us go on business trip often. safety also one impt aspect.

[amk]

... Most problem area is the exterior facade ...

how much do you pay to maintain the carpet grass ?

do u have a small pool ? how much do u pay for the maintenance of the pool ?

[Blue]

DIY for landed is impractical, dangerous and not cost-effective. If you can afford to stay in landed, please don't scrimp on maintenance. It's like seeing luxurious drivers kenna parking ticket - Malu.

It depends on what kind of maintenance. Dun tell me touching up the paint on ur boundary wall and gate, grass cutting also use professionals? Of cos if u need to paint the 3rd floor of ur facade wall, u need scaffolding and cant DIY. Luxurious car drivers kena parking ticket sometimes not bec of saving $ but could be other reasons such as dun wan to squeeze in cramped parking lots with the possibility of a dented door by some irresponsible idiots. They rather risk paying $70 parking on double yellow lines than to risk spending $500 just to get their ferraris resprayed the entire door panel.

Also, it is not merely abt how much one makes but how much one saves from what he makes.

Beco of pple like u, landed owners always kena ketoh when looking for contractors cos they will charge exhorbitant prices!

[Blue]

why cluster house high maintenance? I thought condo also paying maintenance? I would say it will not be worthwhile if you pay and not able to use the facility or something like that...in fact, i prefer cluster house got security, got gym, etc...i dont intend to rebuilt or to do anything extra or modify it though. and at least i know the area is guarded especially some of us go on business trip often. safety also one impt aspect.

Usually cluster hses are of smaller scale, ie not more than 30 hses. There is no economies of scale to engage contractors to do landscaping, general cleaning, pool and lift maintenance, let alone paying for 2 security guards salaries on shift rotations. The monthly maintenance fees just for these will be high. There is hardly any balance left to be put into sinking funds for repainting works and other repairs.

[xebay11]

Luxurious car drivers kena parking ticket sometimes not bec of saving $ but could be other reasons such as dun wan to squeeze in cramped parking lots with the possibility of a dented door by some irresponsible idiots. They rather risk paying $70 parking on double yellow lines than to risk spending $500 just to get their ferraris resprayed the entire door panel.

Shhhh dun let the cat out of the bag, I am one of them hee hee.....must add in that not everytime u park illegally u will get fined....it is a sum of probability and then there is also the benefit of convenience...you would not believe this but I save hell lots by doing this then paying actual parking fees everytime.

[xebay11]

how much do you pay to maintain the carpet grass ?

do u have a small pool ? how much do u pay for the maintenance of the pool ?

Dun have carpet grass, pave the whole external and/or put in artifical grass and plastic timber decking.

[stl67]

how much do you pay to maintain the carpet grass ?

do u have a small pool ? how much do u pay for the maintenance of the pool ?

carpet grass is a nightmare.. in the end give up. so what I did was to buy some lose piece of granities and lay on top and then buy stone pebbles to spread around. still can see some wild grass squeezing out through the pebbles.
about swimming pool, i was told it is about min $80 dollar/mth.
i know how to maitain the koi filtration system but wonder if they are similar to the swimming pool.
in the end, all voice down to time, lazy lah if the owner wants to DIY.

[lajia]

Usually cluster hses are of smaller scale, ie not more than 30 hses. There is no economies of scale to engage contractors to do landscaping, general cleaning, pool and lift maintenance, let alone paying for 2 security guards salaries on shift rotations. The monthly maintenance fees just for these will be high. There is hardly any balance left to be put into sinking funds for repainting works and other repairs.

so how many is ideal?? this is a diff question...too many u pay too little and can be over crowded and then if too few, u pay a lot and maybe like u said, not enough fund to do this and that...i guess this also got to consider the land size.

[Blue]

so how many is ideal?? this is a diff question...too many u pay too little and can be over crowded and then if too few, u pay a lot and maybe like u said, not enough fund to do this and that...i guess this also got to consider the land size.

If want to buy cluster, look for bigger developments eg. Verdana, Poets Villa. I have a frd who stays in cluster with only 7 houses in the entire development. First 2 years, everything is so nice and neat. Maintenance fees are low as well since facilities are new. As time goes by, maintenance fees just climb higher each year. Contractors all start to raise prices quoting reasons of inflation and higher salaries for their staff. Worst is those owners who rent out to expats. These expats no need to pay maintenance and just abuse the facilities. They even invite frds to come happy hour evey other day. The other owners who stay there suffer and have to pay for their actions. Any repairs or rectifications have to go through the Management Committee. There's also all kinds of regulatons and by-laws to abide with.

Having your own landed, you control the damage done to your property. At least you pay for your own actions. You can design it in such way to save maintenance. Whatever you want to do, it is up to you and no need to get approvals (except if the works require government authorities approval of cos). The drawback is your own facilities may not be as huge scale as the clusters or condos.

[Blue]

carpet grass is a nightmare.. in the end give up. so what I did was to buy some lose piece of granities and lay on top and then buy stone pebbles to spread around. still can see some wild grass squeezing out through the pebbles.
about swimming pool, i was told it is about min $80 dollar/mth.
i know how to maitain the koi filtration system but wonder if they are similar to the swimming pool.
in the end, all voice down to time, lazy lah if the owner wants to DIY.

In other countries, pple maintain their own pool and grass patch. I dun see how difficult is that for our hses whereby the land is so much smaller. You just need to hv the equipment and the time to do it.

[stl67]

In other countries, pple maintain their own pool and grass patch. I dun see how difficult is that for our hses whereby the land is so much smaller. You just need to hv the equipment and the time to do it.

True, in sg, malaysia most owners ask contractors to come and maintain, hardly DIY because the labour here is still ok.
In Australia and Europe, most people DIY because labour is way too high. I got 1 German colleague who used to repair/maintain his motor bike in his younger days.

[realestates1]

ECG in the realestate of the process What is mean by ecg? can u explain me?