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Thread: A few CCR transactions sold at a loss (reported in The Edge)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    2 losses at the sail:

    Sold 31 MAR 2015 2 MARINA BOULEVARD #XX-XX 1,798sq ft 1,992psf
    Bought 4 MAY 2011 2,503psf

    Sold 2 APR 2015 6 MARINA BOULEVARD #XX-XX 614sq ft 2,037psf
    Bought 24 JUN 2008 2,227psf

    Who was the forumer that used to lived at the Sail and couldn't stop bragging about how good it was to be living there? He likes to put down everyone who is not Chinese, and like to sound like an expert on everything. What was his handle?

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    can't remember. was it j-dog or something?

    Quote Originally Posted by stalingrad View Post
    Who was the forumer that used to lived at the Sail and couldn't stop bragging about how good it was to be living there? He likes to put down everyone who is not Chinese, and like to sound like an expert on everything. What was his handle?

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    interestingly, the DUO Residences caveat which I've reported on has been removed from both squarefoot and URA sites. hmm...

    Quote Originally Posted by bullman View Post
    I am not an expert on this but I think the name cannot be transferred without incurring SSD, regardless of the structuring. Even with water-tight documentation, the buyer is taking a big risk paying for everything when the title is ultimately not transferred. Maybe some conveyance specialist can share regarding this topic?

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    The Grange:

    Following:

    Sold 26 FEB 2015 3 GRANGE GARDEN #XX-XX 2,303sq ft 1,802psf
    Bought 2 MAY 2008 2,692psf

    we have:

    Sold 27 MAR 2015 1 GRANGE GARDEN #XX-XX 2,282sq ft 2,279psf
    Bought 19 AUG 2009 2,213psf

    My question is, why didn't this 2nd buyer buy at the auction which was virtually uncontested? different facing worth $1m? both units are quite similar in sized standard 4 bedroom units at this project.

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    Belle Vue

    SOLD 6 APR 2015 25 OXLEY WALK #XX-XX 2,271sq ft 1,673psf
    BOUGHT 17 JUL 2009 1,847psf

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    Dear Bargain Hunter,

    Can a caveat be `un-lodged' after it's been lodged in a public site? interesting...
    When you have eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth

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    St Regis

    Sold 6 APR 2015 31 TANGLIN ROAD #XX-XX 3,757sq ft 2,050psf
    Bought 15 JUN 2006 2,333psf

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherlock View Post
    Can a caveat be `un-lodged' after it's been lodged in a public site? interesting...
    http://www.aboutsingaporeproperty.co...-a-price-fall/

    so could my earlier speculation be correct? the seller's name remained but whatever deal he did with someone who lent him some money caused a caveat to be lodged by the lender who wanted to stake his interest in this unit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    http://www.aboutsingaporeproperty.co...-a-price-fall/

    so could my earlier speculation be correct? the seller's name remained but whatever deal he did with someone who lent him some money caused a caveat to be lodged by the lender who wanted to stake his interest in this unit?
    You could well be right on this but it also seem a bit weird that the seller is able to repay it in such a short span of time.

    So next time you lend someone $$ make sure you lodge a claim on his/her property
    When you have eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherlock View Post
    Dear Bargain Hunter,

    Can a caveat be `un-lodged' after it's been lodged in a public site? interesting...
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    Feedback Received Date : 24/10/2007

    Dear Mr

    Thank you for your feedback. We have investigated and confirmed that the caveat of this unit at Southbank was lodged after the sub-purchaser signed fresh agreement with the developer. However, in lodging the caveat, the sub-purchaser quoted the price paid by the original purchaser instead of the sub-sale price. We have therefore removed the record since it does not reflect the actual transaction price. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.


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    Your earlier feedback received on 24/10/2007 :

    Is there a mistake on the unit price on Sep-07 for SouthBank Apartment for 583 $psf.

    Floor Area (Sqft) Unit Price ($psf) Date
    904 527,000 583 Sep-07
    SOUTHBANK NORTH BRIDGE ROAD Apartment

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    i doubt the "seller" has paid back. its more like ura realised that its not a real caveat and removed it?

    Quote Originally Posted by sherlock View Post
    You could well be right on this but it also seem a bit weird that the seller is able to repay it in such a short span of time.

    So next time you lend someone $$ make sure you lodge a claim on his/her property

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    3 straight losses at the sail:

    Sold 6 APR 2015 2 MARINA BOULEVARD #XX-XX 893sq ft 1,644psf
    Bought 25 NOV 2010 1,791psf

    Sold 2 APR 2015 6 MARINA BOULEVARD #XX-XX 614sq ft 2,037psf
    Bought 24 JUN 2008 2,227psf

    Sold 31 MAR 2015 2 MARINA BOULEVARD #XX-XX 1,798sq ft 1,992psf
    Bought 4 MAY 2011 2,503psf

    P.S. read about Mr. Ku Swee Yong being quoted on the edge and using our bro dtrax's theory of forex gains despite selling at loss. is he reading our forum and lifting info from here?

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    Not a loss on paper but a loss in reality.

    4 Mar 2015 18 Spottiswoode Park Road #0x-03 388 1,974 7 Feb 2011 1,778 76,100 1,486 2.6

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    This one really idiot. Buy in July 2009 also can lose money.


    BELLE VUE RESIDENCES

    6 Apr 2015 25 Oxley Walk #0x-23 2,271 1,673 17 Jul 2009 1,847 -394,200 2,089 -1.7

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    aiyo, cannot like that say pple one. it was a matter of big units going out of fashion, "unhelped" or undone by the multiple measures from jan 13 2011 all the way till TDSR in mid 2013. must have some sympathy.


    Quote Originally Posted by thomastansb View Post
    This one really idiot. Buy in July 2009 also can lose money.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    St Regis

    Sold 6 APR 2015 31 TANGLIN ROAD #XX-XX 3,757sq ft 2,050psf
    Bought 15 JUN 2006 2,333psf
    even buy in 2006 at the start of the upturn and hold 9 years can also lose money, so let's not be too critical on anyone.

    basically if you need to sell big CCR today, you will get slaughtered. These guys bought tanglin freehold/oxley freehold at low $2000s psf which would have been good prices in recent years....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    aiyo, cannot like that say pple one. it was a matter of big units going out of fashion, "unhelped" or undone by the multiple measures from jan 13 2011 all the way till TDSR in mid 2013. must have some sympathy.
    Yes, those who bought at Duchess Residences have been slaughtered. They just don't know it or have not been willing to admit it. I really have no sympathies for them, frankly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    aiyo, cannot like that say pple one. it was a matter of big units going out of fashion, "unhelped" or undone by the multiple measures from jan 13 2011 all the way till TDSR in mid 2013. must have some sympathy.
    By the way, it is not just on the resell market. The rental market is very harsh on big units too. Duchess Residences, the butt of many of our jokes, is renting for about $3.5 psf, about the same at my humble OCR Carabelle.

    But the owners still want $2,000 psf for sales of their units, while Carabelle is selling for only $1,200-$1,300psf. I don't know what is in the pipes of DR owners. CCR is crumbling down in slow motion, even as we speak.

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    Don't worry, OCR private property prices also crashing..............

    Game start again - See who has stronger holding power to endure and more fire power to buy CHEAP CHEAP.....................

    Quote Originally Posted by stalingrad View Post
    By the way, it is not just on the resell market. The rental market is very harsh on big units too. Duchess Residences, the butt of many of our jokes, is renting for about $3.5 psf, about the same at my humble OCR Carabelle.

    But the owners still want $2,000 psf for sales of their units, while Carabelle is selling for only $1,200-$1,300psf. I don't know what is in the pipes of DR owners. CCR is crumbling down in slow motion, even as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear View Post
    Don't worry, OCR private property prices also crashing..............

    Game start again - See who has stronger holding power to endure and more fire power to buy CHEAP CHEAP.....................
    The game has run on for many years already, coincided with the rise of the COE. If COE (at least Cat A) does not fall, I really don't see how OCR can crash. Just need to consider carefully who are the ones buying property and cars and you will understand the demand profile of both.
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    Nathan Suites re-named as Nathan Ville?

    17 APR 2015 10 NATHAN VILLE 21 NATHAN ROAD #XX-XX CONDOMINIUM FREEHOLD 1,776sq ft STRATA 1,900psf $3,374,400

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    10 APR 2015 10 BOTANIC GARDENS VIEW 9 TAMAN SERASI #XX-XX APARTMENT FREEHOLD 1,679sq ft STRATA 2,978psf $5,000,000


    10 APR 2015 9 TAMAN SERASI #XX-XX 1,679sq ft 2,978psf 8 FEB 2013 2,299psf

    can anyone explain what's going on with this kelong caveat? surely no one will pay almost 3000psf for a unit with a market price of 1700psf?

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    relax dun get so excited... this is not a kelong caveat: it's a shop

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    5 in a row for St Regis in 2015:

    Sold 17 APR 2015 33 TANGLIN ROAD #XX-XX 4,069sq ft 2,028psf
    Bought 29 MAR 2010 2,450psf

    Sold 16 APR 2015 33 TANGLIN ROAD #XX-XX 5,543sq ft 2,129psf
    Bought 14 JUL 2006 2,594psf

    Sold 6 APR 2015 31 TANGLIN ROAD #XX-XX 3,757sq ft 2,050psf
    Bought 15 JUN 2006 2,333psf

    Sold 23 JAN 2015 33 TANGLIN ROAD #XX-XX 3,897sq ft 2,002psf
    Bought 19 JUN 2006 2,872psf

    Sold 17 JAN 2015 33 TANGLIN ROAD #XX-XX 4,941sq ft 1,923psf
    Bought 17 OCT 2006 2,890psf

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    And 2006 and 2010 aren't all time high years. 2006 is still relatively cheap in fact.




    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    5 in a row for St Regis in 2015:

    Sold 17 APR 2015 33 TANGLIN ROAD #XX-XX 4,069sq ft 2,028psf
    Bought 29 MAR 2010 2,450psf

    Sold 16 APR 2015 33 TANGLIN ROAD #XX-XX 5,543sq ft 2,129psf
    Bought 14 JUL 2006 2,594psf

    Sold 6 APR 2015 31 TANGLIN ROAD #XX-XX 3,757sq ft 2,050psf
    Bought 15 JUN 2006 2,333psf

    Sold 23 JAN 2015 33 TANGLIN ROAD #XX-XX 3,897sq ft 2,002psf
    Bought 19 JUN 2006 2,872psf

    Sold 17 JAN 2015 33 TANGLIN ROAD #XX-XX 4,941sq ft 1,923psf
    Bought 17 OCT 2006 2,890psf

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    yes, all these units are now too big to swallow units.

    Quote Originally Posted by thomastansb View Post
    And 2006 and 2010 aren't all time high years. 2006 is still relatively cheap in fact.

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    seems like bargains below $3M is harder to come by

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    Precisely....I'm waiting till neck long long..��

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    Have lah.. Saw Venturo in balmoral just sold for $1.9... The last time I was looking, some units sold for $2.1 a$2.2m

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