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Thread: A few CCR transactions sold at a loss (reported in The Edge)

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    Turquoise

    Sold 24 JUL 2014 55 COVE DRIVE #02-09 2,777sq ft 1,450psf
    Bought 2 NOV 2007 2,553psf

    according to the edge, sold by the same vietnamese owner who also had #03-09 firesold at 3.88m.

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    forgot to inform the other bros here that this project's name is:

    Sophia Residence

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    Sold 31 JUL 2014 9 SOPHIA ROAD #08-15 2,293 1,168psf
    Bought 2 SEP 2009 1,153psf

    could not cover stamp duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    actually this is ok rite? this is actually just a 3 bedder with a roof terrace?
    i only heard larger units have difficulty securing rental unless they drop their prices. Rented out mine less than 3wks after defects to a corporate tenant. Quite a number of japanese and french pple in the area as well as students

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    congrats! wah students so rich can rent sophia residence?

    Quote Originally Posted by dtrax View Post
    i only heard larger units have difficulty securing rental unless they drop their prices. Rented out mine less than 3wks after defects to a corporate tenant. Quite a number of japanese and french pple in the area as well as students

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    congrats! wah students so rich can rent sophia residence?
    Super lol. Even got 4 holland students got budget for 6k+/mth.. but only 4months short term. I have seen another indian teenager studying arts school with 6.5k budget for 3rm.. dunno why need so large space

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    that's good to know.

    Quote Originally Posted by dtrax View Post
    Super lol. Even got 4 holland students got budget for 6k+/mth.. but only 4months short term. I have seen another indian teenager studying arts school with 6.5k budget for 3rm.. dunno why need so large space

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    Not a big problem. Most people are content with HDB. And most people will not want to live at CCR. So the problem is almost non-existent. Maybe investors will think paying 30% more is worth it in CCR but again, it is an extremely small percentage and investors have big pockets. So they are a happy group. So I don't see any problem at all.

    The more pressing issues are always transport (still in a mess), HDB (resolved long ago) and inflation. Inflation maybe hit those lower income but it is a small % as well. CPF minimum could draw more votes away than private property prices. I don't even see TRS or TOC writing articles on private properties so the complaint trend of housing has died off.





    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear View Post
    Yah, wonder whether heartland HDB upgraders will vote for them since OCR private property prices gone up >60% and they can't buy cheap because of ABSD and more foreigners and PRs buying in OCR to save on ABSD? They more heart-pain when they see rich folks can now buy cheap cheap in CCR while they still need to pay so much for OCR private properties? They top up another 20-35% they can buy CCR FH instead of OCR 99LH private BUT they can't afford because of the restrictive TDSR limiting them the amount they can buy!

    And wonder whether HDB owners (upgraders and non-upgraders) will vote for them since HDB resale prices crashing too and lease buy-back value will also crash!

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear View Post
    Yah, wonder whether heartland HDB upgraders will vote for them since OCR private property prices gone up >60% and they can't buy cheap because of ABSD and more foreigners and PRs buying in OCR to save on ABSD? They more heart-pain when they see rich folks can now buy cheap cheap in CCR while they still need to pay so much for OCR private properties? They top up another 20-35% they can buy CCR FH instead of OCR 99LH private BUT they can't afford because of the restrictive TDSR limiting them the amount they can buy!

    And wonder whether HDB owners (upgraders and non-upgraders) will vote for them since HDB resale prices crashing too and lease buy-back value will also crash!
    I don't think our voters are so narrow minded and vote out the govt just because cannot upgrade. A huge percent of HDB residents are happy where they are. This huge percent already can constitute majority in SG. I agree with Thomastansb that housing is no longer an issue as most will have gotten their BTOs or resale.

    Other issues like elitism in schools, alternative non mainstream views etc are more pressing issues to tackle.
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    Where there is kelong, there is guni.
    No kelong no guni.
    More kelong = more guni.

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    Glad to know that my tenant decided to renew his corporate lease yesterday. Did not ask for reduction in rent and always pays on time.
    Quote Originally Posted by dtrax View Post
    Super lol. Even got 4 holland students got budget for 6k+/mth.. but only 4months short term. I have seen another indian teenager studying arts school with 6.5k budget for 3rm.. dunno why need so large space

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC33_2008 View Post
    Glad to know that my tenant decided to renew his corporate lease yesterday. Did not ask for reduction in rent and always pays on time.
    Yah alot of jap expats on corporate lease these days surprisingly. The senior VP of a big jap bank secure my unit the very next day on viewing

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    Turquoise

    Sold 24 JUL 2014 55 COVE DRIVE #02-09 2,777sq ft 1,450psf
    Bought 2 NOV 2007 2,553psf

    according to the edge, sold by the same vietnamese owner who also had #03-09 firesold at 3.88m.

    Wow 7 years,with opportunity/interest foregone at 5% , its another $5 mio or so.....

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    Marina Bay Residences #14-02 1130 sq ft

    Bought 11 Jul 2007 2000psf
    Sold 8 Aug 2014 1947psf

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    Orchard Scotts

    Bought 17 MAY 2010 7 ANTHONY ROAD #09-28 2,110 sq ft 2,080psf $4,388,000

    put up for mortgagee sale by colliers, any takers?

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    Estilo

    Bought 3 SEP 2007 71 WILKIE ROAD #05-01 495sq ft 1,705psf $844,074

    also put up for mortgagee sale by colliers.

    anyone can help?

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    The Coast

    Sold 11 AUG 2014 278 OCEAN DRIVE #07-13 2,024sq ft 1,900psf
    Bought 27 JUL 2007 2,020psf

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    Oceanfront

    Sold 8 AUG 2014 293 OCEAN DRIVE #02-17 1,711sq ft 1,578psf
    Bought 20 SEP 2010 1,753psf

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    Reflections

    Sold 7 AUG 2014 25 KEPPEL BAY VIEW #09-78 840sq ft 1,465psf
    Bought 6 JUN 2013 1,548psf

    pay SSD until face green green?!

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    indicative price is $3.5m. -20.2%.

    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    Orchard Scotts

    Bought 17 MAY 2010 7 ANTHONY ROAD #09-28 2,110 sq ft 2,080psf $4,388,000

    put up for mortgagee sale by colliers, any takers?

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    Word on the street (The Edge) is ARA has sold 12 of its final 13 units in Grange Infinite to an indonesian at 2100psf. Ave purchase price was 2600psf. Final unit is super penthouse 9,462 sq ft penthouse asking for $20m.

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    Wow! This Indonesian must be having the last laugh! Bought at almost 20% below ARA purchased price! Prove that property prices have crashed!
    Those who have holding power will win!

    See all those CCR firesales? They are benefiting the truly rich immersely!


    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    Word on the street (The Edge) is ARA has sold 12 of its final 13 units in Grange Infinite to an indonesian at 2100psf. Ave purchase price was 2600psf. Final unit is super penthouse 9,462 sq ft penthouse asking for $20m.

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    after 2007 crash, ARA thought they had a good deal buying at 2600psf.

    Grange Inifinite had 68 units. the first 15 units were sold at 3025 to 3292psf, mostly (13) at around 3200psf in sep 07.

    ARA then took 49 units at:


    7 MAR 2008 27 GRANGE ROAD #33-01/02 ETC NEW SALE 128,608 STRATA 2,667 343,021,350 PRIVATE

    2667psf for standard units. + 4 penthouses:


    7 MAR 2008 27 GRANGE ROAD #35-01 NEW SALE 5,436 STRATA 1,900 10,328,400 PRIVATE
    7 MAR 2008 27 GRANGE ROAD #34-01 NEW SALE 5,339 STRATA 1,900 10,144,100 PRIVATE
    7 MAR 2008 27 GRANGE ROAD #36-01 NEW SALE 9,462 STRATA 1,573 14,882,300 PRIVATE
    7 MAR 2008 27 GRANGE ROAD #20-03 NEW SALE 6,039 STRATA 1,750 10,568,250 PRIVATE

    hmm, based on my calculation, ARA bought 145,422 sq ft (excluding the 9462 sq ft PH) at 2572psf.

    So the indonesian took 9 standard units and 3 penthouses at 2100psf.

    The only unit left to sell is #36-01, asking for $20m.


    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear View Post
    Wow! This Indonesian must be having the last laugh! Bought at almost 20% below ARA purchased price! Prove that property prices have crashed!
    Those who have holding power will win!

    See all those CCR firesales? They are benefiting the truly rich immersely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear View Post
    Wow! This Indonesian must be having the last laugh! Bought at almost 20% below ARA purchased price! Prove that property prices have crashed!
    Those who have holding power will win!

    See all those CCR firesales? They are benefiting the truly rich immersely!
    I suppose ARA may have the last laugh buying back below 2kpsf. Hehe only dreaming, need ebola level disaster for that.
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    So ARA didn't succeed in the suit? ARA couldn't flip out at a profit hence cried foul?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    So ARA didn't succeed in the suit? ARA couldn't flip out at a profit hence cried foul?
    ARA lost the case twice in their bid to suspend the remaining payment to Chip Eng Seng, but i'm not sure if they eventually succeeded in claiming some damages back.
    http://www.stproperty.sg/articles-pr...-units/a/72333

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    helios residences

    no prior caveat lodged, but i think its this unit:

    http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listi...ios-residences

    #07-01
    11 AUG 14
    1,668 SQFT
    $2,665 PSF
    $4,446,000

    as reference:

    #08-01
    25 JAN 13
    1,668 SQFT
    $3,545 PSF
    $5,914,500

    #06-01
    24 MAR 14
    1,668 SQFT
    $2,990 PSF
    $4,988,000
    Last edited by bargain hunter; 26-08-14 at 20:25.

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    hmm, maybe not that advertised unit, as the unit size is different. but the prices of 06, 07 and 08 varied by so much within a year.

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    Even if Ebola disaster strike ARA also got no chance to buy back cheaper because they already sold at the absolute possibly lowest price that anybody in distress will need to sell at such price! People who can hold will not sell at such cheap price, Ebola disaster happening or not............

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelonguni View Post
    I suppose ARA may have the last laugh buying back below 2kpsf. Hehe only dreaming, need ebola level disaster for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    helios residences

    no prior caveat lodged, but i think its this unit:

    http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listi...ios-residences

    #07-01
    11 AUG 14
    1,668 SQFT
    $2,665 PSF
    $4,446,000

    as reference:

    #08-01
    25 JAN 13
    1,668 SQFT
    $3,545 PSF
    $5,914,500

    #06-01
    24 MAR 14
    1,668 SQFT
    $2,990 PSF
    $4,988,000
    Any reason why Helios can command much higher price than Vermont?

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    Default Wide range in psf

    Have been reading up on projects at cairnhill area. Seems that the psf range is wide though projects are around the same age and the distance between them is probably less than 5 mins walk apart. Also curious why some are priced so much higher than the rest. As per what some have mentioned, if we can find any new projects priced around $2k to $2300psf at cairnhill area, it is quite a safe buy?

    A newbie to the forum. Hope to get some views from the experts here. Thanks.

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