Capitaland launching Bedok Mrt Development

**phantom_opera** · 14-10-11, 17:47

if not because of stock market is bad, you think CAPL will sell so fast? Wait till STI bounces back to 3k ... no 1.5kpsf no talk

might as well buy CAPL if you think the bottom already established, at least I can see CAPL goes to $3.5 from 2.5 if everything turns out to be ok ... most of us will get hit by 60% LTV restriction + 4y SSD, risk vs return is terrible vs if you buy stock

Dow futures up 79

**DC33_2008** · 14-10-11, 17:47

How much upside do you think this will have in 2 years time?

Originally Posted by hopeful

was looking at centro price list as comparison for bedok.
1000sq ft @ 1700psf for 30+ stories.

Just hoping that this bedok condo is not as pricey as centro.

**DC33_2008** · 14-10-11, 17:50

$1300-$1400psf is priced beyond hdb graders and some investors given the uncertainty in the economic climate in the next 1-2 years.

Originally Posted by DaytonaSS

The high floor with unblocked view one shld be in high $1400 range

**hopeful** · 14-10-11, 18:00

Originally Posted by DC33_2008

How much upside do you think this will have in 2 years time?

still sorting out my thoughts.

Wont rise up much i think, because of SSD.if price increase 20%, original owner only earn 8% after 2 years because of stamp duties(12%) . not covering agent costs etc.

but if buy during recession, the volume also very low, seller also unwilling to sell because have stamp duties. Even if sell at cost, imagine his initial deposit left 20% - 12%=8%. Seller take a 60% hit on his original investment. so unless really desperate, no firesales for this bedok condo.

sorry, still sorting my playbook.

**azeoprop** · 14-10-11, 18:27

Floorplan layout reminds me of the luxurie @ sengkang with mini bedrooms and ultra big balconies.

The 4 bedroom balcony as big as living room + 2 bedrooms.

**DaytonaSS** · 14-10-11, 19:12

Originally Posted by DC33_2008

$1300-$1400psf is priced beyond hdb graders and some investors given the uncertainty in the economic climate in the next 1-2 years.

I think the Indian PRs whom make a good profit from hdb the last 3 years might grab to upgrade. There are alot of them in bedok. 2 bedder 1.5m range Shld have no prob finding buyers in my opinion.

**hyenergix** · 14-10-11, 21:12

My guess is around $1400 psf for 2 bedders low floor.

**yjcai** · 14-10-11, 21:54

Originally Posted by phantom_opera

if not because of stock market is bad, you think CAPL will sell so fast? Wait till STI bounces back to 3k ... no 1.5kpsf no talk

might as well buy CAPL if you think the bottom already established, at least I can see CAPL goes to $3.5 from 2.5 if everything turns out to be ok ... most of us will get hit by 60% LTV restriction + 4y SSD, risk vs return is terrible vs if you buy stock

Dow futures up 79

safdie bishan capl no 1.8k psf no talk. bedok one no 1.5k psf no talk. there is no way they giv reasonable price beside the mrt.

if loan gogo its 1.25% + 3m sibor. Getting scarier

**radha08** · 14-10-11, 22:05

Originally Posted by bullman

I could be wrong, but its more like:

$1350-$1450 for 1BR and 1+1
$1250-$1350 for 2BR
$1150-$1250 for 3BR
$1050-$1150 for 4 BR

tks for rough guide...

**radha08** · 14-10-11, 22:06

Originally Posted by phantom_opera

if not because of stock market is bad, you think CAPL will sell so fast? Wait till STI bounces back to 3k ... no 1.5kpsf no talk

might as well buy CAPL if you think the bottom already established, at least I can see CAPL goes to $3.5 from 2.5 if everything turns out to be ok ... most of us will get hit by 60% LTV restriction + 4y SSD, risk vs return is terrible vs if you buy stock

Dow futures up 79

makes a lot of sense...

**DC33_2008** · 14-10-11, 22:30

May offer 5% discount and furniture voucher for the 1st batch.

Originally Posted by radha08

tks for rough guide...

**radha08** · 15-10-11, 08:25

in summary if priced reasonabaly and for an investor with strong risk appetite in case of any weakening of economic conditions within next few years i feel this launch offers good oppurtunity compared to a lot of other property launches in the east....

just go in with eyes/ears closed and keep them closed for next 4 years....

**phantom_opera** · 15-10-11, 09:38

they will sell you lousy units first, once that is done, break even, keep the rest until bus interchange opens, if CAPL not doing this, Liew should be fired

**DC33_2008** · 15-10-11, 09:40

IMO, which are the lousy units?

Originally Posted by phantom_opera

they will sell you lousy units first, once that is done, break even, keep the rest until bus interchange opens, if CAPL not doing this, Liew should be fired

**phantom_opera** · 15-10-11, 09:43

Originally Posted by DC33_2008

IMO, which are the lousy units?

all the low floors facing out

it is a shame CAPL has the following floor plan, open kindergarten at home at balcony?

**DC33_2008** · 15-10-11, 10:03

Lower floor unit may be better than the upper floor unit facing the track from the noise perspective as there is a terrace with greens.

**devilplate** · 15-10-11, 10:19

Originally Posted by DC33_2008

Lower floor unit may be better than the upper floor unit facing the track from the noise perspective as there is a terrace with greens.

Tat will be ground flr.....2nd flr upwards will not be spared.....imagine everytime kena bio by commuters in the train.....no privacy, track noise, road noise and air pollution! Wow!

**devilplate** · 15-10-11, 10:22

Shd follow feo strategy

Launch few stacks at a time wif various facing....

Cannot just launch all lousy units.....nid to create a hype by releasing some gd units

U see how successful euhabitat is? Super lousy location actually....99lh, next to pie and far from mrt.....FEO my idol!

**DC33_2008** · 15-10-11, 10:25

Not sure if ERA is good in their marketing strategy.

Originally Posted by devilplate

Shd follow feo strategy

Launch few stacks at a time wif various facing....

Cannot just launch all lousy units.....nid to create a hype by releasing some gd units

U see how successful euhabitat is? Super lousy location actually....99lh, next to pie and far from mrt.....FEO my idol!

**TKT** · 15-10-11, 10:27

Originally Posted by phantom_opera

all the low floors facing out

it is a shame CAPL has the following floor plan, open kindergarten at home at balcony?

Its a disgrace!

**kane** · 15-10-11, 10:37

The balcony of the 4 bedder is huge!!

There should be a rule that no longer allows extra allowance on balcony and air con ledge and bay window etc, all to be counted under GFA!

**devilplate** · 15-10-11, 10:52

Originally Posted by kane

The balcony of the 4 bedder is huge!!

There should be a rule that no longer allows extra allowance on balcony and air con ledge and bay window etc, all to be counted under GFA!

All counted under gfa except 1st 10% foc balcony and 100% foc ac ledge as long within 1m width

How much construction cost can developer saves by building balcony?

Buy feo projects la! No oversized balcony....whahahhaa

Capland=crappyland

Most recent projects by capland

Interlace layout still decent but also got tons of big big baywindows

**mantrix** · 15-10-11, 10:53

anyone knows the name of this project?

**devilplate** · 15-10-11, 11:04

Originally Posted by mantrix

anyone knows the name of this project?

Pending...but got agt put bedok residence

**rattydrama** · 15-10-11, 11:16

Originally Posted by devilplate

Pending...but got agt put bedok residence

cheapo name with high price tag...

**acidic.straw** · 15-10-11, 11:22

Originally Posted by devilplate

Pending...but got agt put bedok residence

d'Bedok

**kane** · 15-10-11, 11:26

Originally Posted by devilplate

All counted under gfa except 1st 10% foc balcony and 100% foc ac ledge as long within 1m width

How much construction cost can developer saves by building balcony?

Buy feo projects la! No oversized balcony....whahahhaa

Capland=crappyland

Most recent projects by capland

Interlace layout still decent but also got tons of big big baywindows

My point there should be no FOC on air con ledge and 10% FOC on balcony.

**devilplate** · 15-10-11, 11:37

Originally Posted by kane

My point there should be no FOC on air con ledge and 10% FOC on balcony.

I m ok wif 10% foc balcony becoz balcony provides some shade....greener mah....10% balcony just nice.....not too big or small....but ac ledge

Isit alot cheaper to build balconies? Since its included in gfa after first 10%?

**kane** · 15-10-11, 11:43

Balconies are fine like you say, so the developer at their discretion can decide how much balcony to allocate based on the desired lifestyle effect. And they will bid for the land accordingly. Why is there the need to give them the 10% allowance to subsidise their cost of land acquisition? It's giving free money to developers no?

**devilplate** · 15-10-11, 11:51

Originally Posted by kane

Balconies are fine like you say, so the developer at their discretion can decide how much balcony to allocate based on the desired lifestyle effect. And they will bid for the land accordingly. Why is there the need to give them the 10% allowance to subsidise their cost of land acquisition? It's giving free money to developers no?

Their aim is to give incentive for developers to build balconies as it also forms part of the criteria of duno wat green award...lol

Give them free 10%, developer also factor into their bid px....effectively i tink govt dun lose out....not really foc.....end consumer pay for it though.....but if no balconies, many projects will look like hdb bto flats liao....whahaha

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