MALAYSIA TO BUILD OIL REFINERY AND PETROCHEMICAL PLANT IN JB

**DC33_2008** · 13-05-11, 21:21

Not good news to northern home owners and investors.

**cheongster** · 13-05-11, 21:34

Even now, just stand at the punggol jetty beach and loo across. Its not a beautiful sight. The real bad news is that its something we cannot control. We can't control how others choose, intentionally or unintentionally, to face their ass.

**mantrix** · 13-05-11, 21:42

is OK, nothing much to look at anyways

there's a sea separating the 2 countries - both physical and symbolic

**kingkong1984** · 13-05-11, 22:33

Originally Posted by mantrix

is OK, nothing much to look at anyways

there's a sea separating the 2 countries - both physical and symbolic

Do u know that pollution can affect the whole island depending on wind direction? Look at all the smoke around us. Nowhere in Singapore is spared.

**DC33_2008** · 13-05-11, 23:10

More vertical cigarette sticks puffing in JB. Haze from south and puffing from north.

**kingkong1984** · 13-05-11, 23:14

Originally Posted by DC33_2008

More vertical cigarette sticks puffing in JB. Haze from south and puffing from north.

Yup, bad area.

East should be the best?

**hyenergix** · 14-05-11, 01:01

Some petrochemical plants use river water or sea water for cooling. It is common for the heat exchangers to leak and the pollutants will flow into the water bodies. It is also common for process upset that results in materials sent to the flare stacks, which might not be operated properly. This is bad news for residents staying in the north.

But is it confirmed? Malaysia usually likes to announce grand plans without good follow-ups.

**devilplate** · 14-05-11, 01:09

Originally Posted by hyenergix

Some petrochemical plants use river water or sea water for cooling. It is common for the heat exchangers to leak and the pollutants will flow into the water bodies. It is also common for process upset that results in materials sent to the flare stacks, which might not be operated properly. This is bad news for residents staying in the north.

But is it confirmed? Malaysia usually likes to announce grand plans without good follow-ups.

Oredi got chemical plants....add 1 more ok lor....lol

**hyenergix** · 14-05-11, 01:16

Adding refineries is the start for the growth of downstream chemical plants. If true, then the residents there can look forward to more chemical plants in the near future.

**devilplate** · 14-05-11, 01:28

Originally Posted by hyenergix

Adding refineries is the start for the growth of downstream chemical plants. If true, then the residents there can look forward to more chemical plants in the near future.

Den whole sg will not b spared.... Better hf a backup plan

**hyenergix** · 14-05-11, 01:32

New plants that are making $ are not a major issues. Old corroded plants that are not making $ are safety hazards. The residents will probably see the problems in another 10-20 years' time.

**devilplate** · 14-05-11, 01:36

Originally Posted by hyenergix

New plants that are making $ are not a major issues. Old corroded plants that are not making $ are safety hazards. The residents will probably see the problems in another 10-20 years' time.

Oredi got existing plants affecting punggol.....

**DC33_2008** · 14-05-11, 08:14

Feasibility study is underway. Infrastructure development that genetrates $ is quite likely to come true. The queston now is the site as the prevailing wind direction in singapore is NE and SW.

Originally Posted by hyenergix

Some petrochemical plants use river water or sea water for cooling. It is common for the heat exchangers to leak and the pollutants will flow into the water bodies. It is also common for process upset that results in materials sent to the flare stacks, which might not be operated properly. This is bad news for residents staying in the north.

But is it confirmed? Malaysia usually likes to announce grand plans without good follow-ups.

**Komo** · 14-05-11, 08:46

Believe Sgp can voice concern on the ground of environmental pollution to population etc. Block it if possible? There could be international guideline nonsuch issues. For example they cannot just build a nuclear plant just across right even if it is not near to any of their population?

**devilplate** · 14-05-11, 08:55

Originally Posted by Komo

Believe Sgp can voice concern on the ground of environmental pollution to population etc. Block it if possible? There could be international guideline nonsuch issues. For example they cannot just build a nuclear plant just across right even if it is not near to any of their population?

But its like a big bro bullying small bro....

Now double n triple cfm die die dun buy JB ppty

Iskandar will b affected anot?

**DC33_2008** · 14-05-11, 08:57

It is difficult. See what Simon Tay has been pushing for the haze issue but it is still around today. They will tell you the effluent from the stacks will be conformed to WHO standards, etc. Even in Singapore, developments near Jurong Island still get the soot. $ seems to be more important than people's health.

Originally Posted by Komo

Believe Sgp can voice concern on the ground of environmental pollution to population etc. Block it if possible? There could be international guideline nonsuch issues. For example they cannot just build a nuclear plant just across right even if it is not near to any of their population?

**joelx** · 14-05-11, 10:49

Originally Posted by Komo

Believe Sgp can voice concern on the ground of environmental pollution to population etc. Block it if possible? There could be international guideline nonsuch issues. For example they cannot just build a nuclear plant just across right even if it is not near to any of their population?

Yes, sg should voice up. Foreign minister should say something, why is George yeo keep quiet, is time to voice up..hahaha...oops..ehhh..ask tpl to comment

**focus** · 14-05-11, 15:18

Eh.. in the straits time article..., the Johore(not JB) refinery complex is going to be situated east of Changi Airport ..

Google maps, go to Pengerang , Johor.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story...8&sec=business

Basically, Malaysia wants the whole of Johor to be filed with heavy industries to smoke us out.. hehe..

Btw, the reason cited was it allows VLCC to go there coz of the depth of the water. My question is .. why Malaysia never built mega port to take away PSA business? Or is it going to happen soon?

**ozcraze** · 14-05-11, 15:20

based on map in yest's ST, seems like the plant will be at east of s'pore.....? dunno if will affect our ecp beach....

Originally Posted by kingkong1984

Yup, bad area.

East should be the best?

**ozcraze** · 14-05-11, 15:22

erm..... wind directions not NE and SE instead?

Originally Posted by DC33_2008

Feasibility study is underway. Infrastructure development that genetrates $ is quite likely to come true. The queston now is the site as the prevailing wind direction in singapore is NE and SW.

**devilplate** · 14-05-11, 18:01

Originally Posted by focus

Eh.. in the straits time article..., the Johore(not JB) refinery complex is going to be situated east of Changi Airport ..

Google maps, go to Pengerang , Johor.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story...8&sec=business

Basically, Malaysia wants the whole of Johor to be filed with heavy industries to smoke us out.. hehe..

Btw, the reason cited was it allows VLCC to go there coz of the depth of the water. My question is .. why Malaysia never built mega port to take away PSA business? Or is it going to happen soon?

Wah lau

So how.....only separated by tekong......the whole eastern region will suffer.....omg

**devilplate** · 14-05-11, 18:09

Msia damn evil....smoke us from punggol liao n now attack from the east

Msia so big n yet die die build super close to singapore

**kingkong1984** · 14-05-11, 18:18

Originally Posted by devilplate

Msia damn evil....smoke us from punggol liao n now attack from the east

Msia so big n yet die die build super close to singapore

Trying to copy as much as possible. They can cause land is cheaper.

Since so close, will definitely take away business.

**Regulators** · 15-05-11, 10:52

This was one of my favourite discussion topics, kindly refer to an old thread that I started last year in may

http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php?t=9474

**zzz1** · 15-05-11, 11:38

Originally Posted by DC33_2008

Not good news to northern home owners and investors.

they plan to build at pengeran area which is off desaru ..
Singapore's closest proximity is Tekong Island eastern coast..

Technical speaking is at the eastern side of Singapore

**zzz1** · 15-05-11, 11:40

Originally Posted by focus

Eh.. in the straits time article..., the Johore(not JB) refinery complex is going to be situated east of Changi Airport ..

Google maps, go to Pengerang , Johor.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story...8&sec=business

Basically, Malaysia wants the whole of Johor to be filed with heavy industries to smoke us out.. hehe..

Btw, the reason cited was it allows VLCC to go there coz of the depth of the water. My question is .. why Malaysia never built mega port to take away PSA business? Or is it going to happen soon?

Singapore and regional area is around 12-15 me draft max...

**zzz1** · 15-05-11, 11:43

Originally Posted by devilplate

Wah lau

So how.....only separated by tekong......the whole eastern region will suffer.....omg

the first to suffer is the cheap seafood village there , near the sungai rengit
every week end, can see the village is packed with sg car that drive 100km to reach there..

**maisonjai** · 14-05-12, 14:39

Massive Johor refinery to pull in S$49b in investments
04:45 AM May 14, 2012

PENGERANG (Johor) - The mammoth Refinery and Petrochemical Integrated Development (RAPID) in south-eastern Johor will become Malaysia's biggest development project with Prime Minister Najib Razak revealing yesterday that investors are ready to pump in RM120 billion (S$49 billion) into the refinery hub.

"The RAPID project is part of the Economic Transformation Programme, and the government has identified it as a high-impact project with enormous economic spin-offs for the people in the area," Mr Najib said at RAPID's official launch at Pengerang yesterday.

The Prime Minister said RAPID will transform Johor into one of the world's biggest hubs for oil and gas, Bernama reported. Besides Malaysian oil company Petronas, Mr Najib said a Taiwanese oil and gas company and German firm BASF will be pumping money into the area.

RAPID will be able to produce 9 million tonnes of petroleum products and 4.5 million tonnes of petrochemicals annually.

The Sultan of Johor, Sultan Ibrahim, yesterday said that the massive refinery project was a "blessing" for the state, and that residents should be happy that their children will not have to move elsewhere to find jobs.

Pengerang, less than 5km from Singapore's Pulau Tekong, will all but vanish with the arrival of the refineries.

Residents, who are dependent on fishing, are concerned with pollution from the plants. Agencies

http://www.todayonline.com/World/EDC120514-0000030/Massive-Johor-refinery-to-pull-in-S$49b-in-investments

**carbuncle** · 14-05-12, 15:01

惨咯参咯。污烟瘴气的。。。我的town 会变成我的妈呀!town

**phantom_opera** · 14-05-12, 15:08

Looking at the location, Changi / Tanah Merah / Pasir Ris will be hit first

Changi Airport may be surrounded by dark fumes

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