Aquarius By the Park (D16, 99 year LH, Bedok Reservoir)

I just visited one unit at Aquarius by the Park this weekend, and I love it! Beautiful landscape, peaceful green park & partial reservoir view. Heard it has one of the biggest swimming pool in Singapore.

There is a new PIE exit just next to Clear Water, which make it very easy access to highway while the HDB blocks and Clear Water block all the noise pollution :), resort living, good facilities. They even have little shops inside (market, salon, etc.).

What is the best price for this project? Your comment please.

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This condominium at Bedok Reservoir is a high-density residential estate, which is just beside the Bedok reservoir, a great place for joggers and cyclists.
It is a self-contained condominium complex with its own convenience shop and cafeteria, you would hardly need to step outside to get your necessities

FACILITIES AT AQUARIUS BY THE PARK

• Swimming pool
• Tennis
• Squash (How come all the new projects no more Squash???)
• Clubhouse
• Function room
• Reading/Study room - good for children!
• Gym
• Sauna
• Game room
• Mini-mart
• BBQ
• Playground
• Fitness station
• Jogging track
• Covered car park
• 24 hours security

are u an agent which trying to sell

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Originally Posted by East Buyer

are u an agent which trying to sell

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No, I'm a poor buyer who are hunting for a house at EAST and yet can't find a good one - cheap and good, i mean...

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Originally Posted by Unregistered.

No, I'm a poor buyer who are hunting for a house at EAST and yet can't find a good one - cheap and good, i mean...

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Have you considerd The Tropica? The otherside of Bedok Reservoir, good feng shui, every unit at least have pool view, some even have pool + reservoir / quarry park view. the best, it's going to have a MRT station just near by the project!
The only drawback is there is no balcony... but at least no HDB behaviour to sun the laundry in the balcony! :P

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Originally Posted by Unregistered123

Have you considerd The Tropica? The otherside of Bedok Reservoir, good feng shui, every unit at least have pool view, some even have pool + reservoir / quarry park view. the best, it's going to have a MRT station just near by the project!
The only drawback is there is no balcony... but at least no HDB behaviour to sun the laundry in the balcony! :P

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Tropica is very very hot and the rooms are small some units face the longkang. ABP has some rooms that are Triangle... I dont like the layout but it is reasonably priced also the facilities are good.

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Originally Posted by East yahoo

Tropica is very very hot and the rooms are small some units face the longkang. ABP has some rooms that are Triangle... I dont like the layout but it is reasonably priced also the facilities are good.

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It seems only Tropica and Gardens at Bishan are designed according to Feng Shui...

Interesting website

http://www.infoserv.com.sg/review/tropica/index.htm

Sorry but aquarius is the crappiest of all crap in Bedok reservoir.

I keep on hearing about this BS of MRT in Bedok Reservoir.
Where got.......... All these are untrue as far as i know. They are still on paper. All speculation....so to all Bedok Reservoir Viewers, WW, BW,CW, AQBP...stop dreaming.....Please show me proof and not some doctored picture or about some minister saying that they can take train to bedok from bedok reservoir. Got proof or not....

I'm also looking for an apt in the east area and have been to aquarius as well. Do u find the ceiling in aquarius slightly lower than hdb? the furnishings are a bit old and need replacement. Other than that, the condo facilities look ok to me. But still find the price high for a 99 yr lease 7 yr old project.

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Originally Posted by easter2

I'm also looking for an apt in the east area and have been to aquarius as well. Do u find the ceiling in aquarius slightly lower than hdb? the furnishings are a bit old and need replacement. Other than that, the condo facilities look ok to me. But still find the price high for a 99 yr lease 7 yr old project.

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To be so bold to give a frank opinion of aquarius, this project is just too old.
Even though there are comments that baywater is the most pricey of the bedok reservoir condos, but there is a reason to it. I have viewed all the condos within the bedok reservoir area. Baywater commands the highest yield, aquarius the lowest.

Who said price is dropping???

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THE TROPICA $738,000 1,227 $601 Mar-08
THE TROPICA $765,000 1,227 $623 Feb-08
THE TROPICA $720,000 1,227 $587 Nov-07
THE TROPICA $768,000 1,227 $626 Sep-07
THE TROPICA $680,000 1,227 $554 Jun-07
THE TROPICA $590,000 1,227 $481 Jun-07
THE TROPICA $652,000 1,227 $531 Jun-07
THE TROPICA $618,000 1,227 $504 Apr-07
THE TROPICA $600,000 1,227 $489 Apr-07
THE TROPICA $580,000 1,227 $473 Feb-07
THE TROPICA $545,000 1,227 $444 Jan-07
THE TROPICA $620,000 1,227 $505 Jan-07
THE TROPICA $530,000 1,227 $432 Oct-06
THE TROPICA $530,000 1,227 $432 Oct-06
THE TROPICA $500,000 1,227 $407 Jul-06
THE TROPICA $530,000 1,227 $432 Jul-06
THE TROPICA $518,000 1,227 $422 Apr-06
THE TROPICA $535,000 1,227 $436 Dec-05
THE TROPICA $525,000 1,227 $428 Apr-05
THE TROPICA $520,000 1,227 $424 Oct-04
THE TROPICA $538,000 1,227 $438 Jun-04
THE TROPICA $562,000 1,227 $458 Dec-03
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THE TROPICA $840,000 1,496 $561 Nov-07
THE TROPICA $900,000 1,496 $602 Sep-07
THE TROPICA $820,000 1,496 $548 Aug-07
THE TROPICA $860,000 1,496 $575 Jan-07
THE TROPICA $615,000 1,496 $411 Aug-05
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THE TROPICA $650,000 1,507 $431 Jan-07
THE TROPICA $600,000 1,507 $398 Jun-06
THE TROPICA $580,000 1,507 $385 Feb-06
THE TROPICA $670,000 1,507 $445 May-03
THE TROPICA $725,000 1,507 $481 Jul-02
THE TROPICA $725,000 1,507 $481 Jul-02
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THE TROPICA $845,000 1,518 $557 Dec-07
THE TROPICA $870,000 1,518 $573 Nov-07
THE TROPICA $910,000 1,518 $599 Aug-07
THE TROPICA $630,000 1,518 $415 May-05
THE TROPICA $620,000 1,518 $408 Sep-04
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AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 785000 1324 593 May-08
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 820000 1324 619 Mar-08
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 810000 1324 612 Jan-08
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 800000 1324 604 Jan-08
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 765000 1324 578 Jan-08
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 820000 1324 619 Dec-07
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 665000 1324 502 Jun-07
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AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 730000 1227 595 Feb-08
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 712000 1227 580 Feb-08
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 680000 1227 554 Jan-08
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 716000 1227 583 Dec-07
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 710000 1227 579 Dec-07
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 760000 1227 619 Nov-07
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 740000 1227 603 Oct-07
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 650000 1227 530 Jul-07
AQUARIUS BY THE PARK 580000 1227 473 Jun-07

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Originally Posted by bedok

To be so bold to give a frank opinion of aquarius, this project is just too old.
Even though there are comments that baywater is the most pricey of the bedok reservoir condos, but there is a reason to it. I have viewed all the condos within the bedok reservoir area. Baywater commands the highest yield, aquarius the lowest.

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visited bay water, well, it's new, so every thing is modern, however, one of room is just too tiny too dark to be used, the entire project is just too small to invite friends. the worst, i don't like the location, just site beside busy PIE, Bedok North and Reservoir road, i just can't image how to sleep in the road center...

Location wise, of course water wave is even better, but you have to pay more...

Given $100K difference selling price, you can use it to totallly renovete the AQPB, and yet enjoy the bigger landscape, full facility and quiet environment.

AQPB is cheap and good if it's for your own stay. So let's wait for the price drop below $500psf. soon...

By the way, when I went to see the units in BW and AQ, unlike half year a lot, i'm the only one to view and the agent follow up very badly. Less unit is put on sales now, but even less buyer to view. According to the agent, very little phone calls now a day...

Tug of War!

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Originally Posted by easter2

I'm also looking for an apt in the east area and have been to aquarius as well. Do u find the ceiling in aquarius slightly lower than hdb? the furnishings are a bit old and need replacement. Other than that, the condo facilities look ok to me. But still find the price high for a 99 yr lease 7 yr old project.

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Yah, noticed that. Need to redo everything as most of the unit do up a lot of buid-in furniture....

1. the master bedroom no place to put a TV. how?
2. 3rd bedroom is L sharp, have to use as study room only
3. Kitchen is so old. redo is a must. $$$
4. toilet is so old, need to knock down the bathtub and replace with jacuzzi. $$
5. can't remember the common toilet, is it no window? how come so dark?

Given above must-do action list, how much is the best price shall we offer for this 99 yr lease 7 yr old project? your comments please!

$450psf --> $600K for 1324 sq ft unit : not possible already, right?
$500psf --> $660K: too much to offer?
$550psf --> $728K: dare to try?
$600psf --> $800K: current price, but nobody to offer :o

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Originally Posted by Blueboy

I keep on hearing about this BS of MRT in Bedok Reservoir.
Where got.......... All these are untrue as far as i know. They are still on paper. All speculation....so to all Bedok Reservoir Viewers, WW, BW,CW, AQBP...stop dreaming.....Please show me proof and not some doctored picture or about some minister saying that they can take train to bedok from bedok reservoir. Got proof or not....

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here you are...
http://www.purehype.org/assets/image...re_mrt_map.jpg

Look it carefully, the new line will by pass all those AQ, CW, BW and WW, the nearest is have a Reservior station at Sin Song, then straight away to Quarry Park - that means The Tropica will have MRT station at their door drop!
No wonder the price in Tropica is higher than AQ & CW, even though no balcony at all.

so....WW, BW,CW, AQBP...stop dreaming.....

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Originally Posted by Unregistered123

It seems only Tropica and Gardens at Bishan are designed according to Feng Shui...

Interesting website

http://www.infoserv.com.sg/review/tropica/index.htm

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Aquarius is D16, Tropica is D18!

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Originally Posted by Unregisteredalso

Aquarius is D16, Tropica is D18!

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Originally Posted by ABC123

Just as scheduled, URA has just invited developers to submit bids for the 3.2ha site, just beside The Tropica. Interest is expected to generate alot of interest.
The site is well connected to major arterial roads and expressways such as Tampines Expressway and the Pan Island Expressway. The Tampines MRT station and bus interchange, which is located in close proximity to the sale site, will provide convenient access to all parts of the island.
Near to Hitech wafer Park Industry yet not too close.
View of Bedok Reservior yet no busy/noisy road as compared to the opposite bank of the Reservoir.....

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So the price will increase for Tropica! more reason to have one MRT station in the quarry park, in 8 more years...

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Originally Posted by Let's be patient

visited bay water, well, it's new, so every thing is modern, however, one of room is just too tiny too dark to be used, the entire project is just too small to invite friends. the worst, i don't like the location, just site beside busy PIE, Bedok North and Reservoir road, i just can't image how to sleep in the road center...

Location wise, of course water wave is even better, but you have to pay more...

Given $100K difference selling price, you can use it to totallly renovete the AQPB, and yet enjoy the bigger landscape, full facility and quiet environment.

AQPB is cheap and good if it's for your own stay. So let's wait for the price drop below $500psf. soon...

By the way, when I went to see the units in BW and AQ, unlike half year a lot, i'm the only one to view and the agent follow up very badly. Less unit is put on sales now, but even less buyer to view. According to the agent, very little phone calls now a day...

Tug of War!

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yes,i agree. AQ is only good if for own stay and families with kids. For investment, it's totally out if purchase at this price above $600 psf. today, news out there another new condo project for tender beside The tropica, going to price at lesser than $700psf, with that, it seem like a fool to rush in and buy AQ now. Not to forget the amt we need to spend to revamp the whole unit... and to live with surfacing defects over the years since it TOP, it's appealing to buy from new projects if we can wait.

So I think the price u mentioned is possible to aim at. Cos 99 yrs lease project always have this shortfall as compared to FH and 999. imagine another few years, it'll be more than 10 years old. maybe by then, the price will go down to similar to melville park units.

just my views, to live on hopes that MRT will be round the corner is just something to smoke us buyers. How long is that going to be? 5 or 10 or 15 years? Maybe by the time I close both my eyes, the mrt still not up there. Just give us enough buses to travel for other family members or visitors, otherwise I guess most of us drive, so mrt or not is not a key attractive factor. Not to forget the construction problem and noise that accompany with it if ever MRT is built.
Anyway AQ is still one of our shortlisted choices due to work distance personal preference.

June 18, 2008
Tampines residential site up for tender

Offer seen as acid test for property market after recent signs of upswing
By Joyce Teo, Property Correspondent

A NEW home site on offer in Tampines, overlooking Bedok Reservoir, could shape up as an acid test for the property market after recent signs of a revival.

The Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) yesterday invited developers to submit bids for the 3.2ha site at the junction of Tampines avenues 1 and 10.
Some property consultants said the 99-year leasehold site's suburban location meant completed homes could command prices of up to $700 per sq ft (psf), which is slightly higher than neighbouring condominiums. They say the land could fetch anywhere between $107 million and $165 million.


The site, with a maximum gross floor area of 66,655 sq m, is next to The Tropica condo, where caveats show recent deals were done for between $547 psf and $622 psf, or $590,000 to $1.13 million. Other nearby condos include Aquarius By The Park, The Clearwater and the recently completed Baywater, which fetched $600 psf to $680 psf.

Mr Leonard Tay, director of research at CBRE, said: 'Based on these comparables and taking into account higher construction costs, we expect that a new 99-year leasehold project in this location may fetch prices of around $700 psf.'

This would translate to a possible land price of $200 to $230 psf per plot ratio for the site, he added.
But some others expect a more cautious response, in view of the current fairly quiet market and the risk of falling prices.
On Monday, the URA released figures showing that private home sales had rebounded from the previous months' lows. But the sales were still way below last year's figures.
Consultants such as Ms Tay Huey Ying of Colliers International said the upswing in activity could be the result of developers testing the market with launches.
Mr Ku Swee Yong, Savills Singapore's director of business development and marketing, said bids for the Tampines plot could come in as low as $150 to $180 psf per plot ratio.
At this price, the successful developer could sell the apartments for $650 psf to $700 psf, he added.
Although the site fronts Bedok Reservoir, not all the apartments will have a view of the lake, said Mr Ku.
Mr Tay said that as the site is on the north-western boundary of Tampines New Town, it is about five to 10 minutes' drive from Tampines Central and Tampines MRT station.
Residents can also head for Tampines Retail Park on Tampines Avenue 10, where Giant, Ikea and Courts are located, he added.
The tender for the Tampines site will close on Aug 12.
It is a confirmed list site under the Government's land sales programme. These sites go on sale on specified dates.
The Government also sells land under a reserve list, in which sites are put up for sale only after developers have indicated interest by committing to a minimum bid. This month, the Government is expected to announce its land sales programme for the second half of the year.
http://www.straitstimes.com/Free/Sto...ry_249071.html

http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIM...-%20jttamp.pdf

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Originally Posted by easter2

just my views, to live on hopes that MRT will be round the corner is just something to smoke us buyers. How long is that going to be? 5 or 10 or 15 years? Maybe by the time I close both my eyes, the mrt still not up there. Just give us enough buses to travel for other family members or visitors, otherwise I guess most of us drive, so mrt or not is not a key attractive factor. Not to forget the construction problem and noise that accompany with it if ever MRT is built.
Anyway AQ is still one of our shortlisted choices due to work distance personal preference.

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Actually the worst hit at the moment is BAYWATER the main road is like kissing the condo. Wonder if they feel the vibration everytime a bus goes past. So clearwater and ACQ is still a consideration. SEE ACQ has the bus service, eatery, shop etc and one of the better pools. BAYwater is so small, you cant even walk around the condo you will probably walk into the guard post or something. The Tropica at the moment only low floor selling but looks like the upcoming development and train and United world College will add the boast!! But yes it is D18 afterall and the layout not fantastic.
There are still some crazy sellers that advertise their houses for 700-800 per Sq feet at these condos.... err wonder they hit any gondo buyer since here we looking at below 500 per sq feet!

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Originally Posted by East Yahoo

Actually the worst hit at the moment is BAYWATER the main road is like kissing the condo. Wonder if they feel the vibration everytime a bus goes past. So clearwater and ACQ is still a consideration. SEE ACQ has the bus service, eatery, shop etc and one of the better pools. BAYwater is so small, you cant even walk around the condo you will probably walk into the guard post or something. The Tropica at the moment only low floor selling but looks like the upcoming development and train and United world College will add the boast!! But yes it is D18 afterall and the layout not fantastic.
There are still some crazy sellers that advertise their houses for 700-800 per Sq feet at these condos.... err wonder they hit any gondo buyer since here we looking at below 500 per sq feet!

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Totally agree! The sellers insist to sell at sky high price and saying "if not I will rent it out". But look my weekend exprirents, there is no BUYER/VIEWER at all to view the house, and some of the vacant units are full of dust! If rental so good, why vacant there to collect dust?

Wake up lah, those 99 LH owners, see the bad news from stock markets, one after another.... why not break the ice, let go the units at reasonable price?

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Originally Posted by bedok

To be so bold to give a frank opinion of aquarius, this project is just too old.
Even though there are comments that baywater is the most pricey of the bedok reservoir condos, but there is a reason to it. I have viewed all the condos within the bedok reservoir area. Baywater commands the highest yield, aquarius the lowest.

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5 years later, Baywater will be old also, the layout, design will be out dated. By then, which project still has a selling point? Old AQ cheap with bigger facility? Or Baywater located in the mid of main road with mini facility? While new projects (WW, new one beside tropica), new MRT station at quarry park, I guess BW will drop to the cheapest project in Bedok Reservoir...

For AQ, at least it's good for own stay with family and children, any time still can find this kind of buyers...
Prefer AQ to the rest, only if the price can go below 550psf...

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Originally Posted by East Yahoo

.... err wonder they hit any gondo buyer since here we looking at below 500 per sq feet!

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Ever think of Elias Green (D18)? it's below 500psf now...

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Originally Posted by Unregistered.

Ever think of Elias Green (D18)? it's below 500psf now...

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Elias Green URA Avg Prices

Year 2008:
Avg Price=$ 689,500
Avg PSF =$ 448
Total Sold=6

Year 2007:
Avg Price=$ 587,581
Avg PSF =$ 380
Total Sold=31

Year 2006:
Avg Price=$ 457,724
Avg PSF =$ 299
Total Sold=29

Year 2005:
Avg Price=$ 444,544
Avg PSF =$ 287
Total Sold=18

Year 2004:
Avg Price=$ 455,779
Avg PSF =$ 297
Total Sold=15

Year 2003:
Avg Price=$ 490,889
Avg PSF =$ 316
Total Sold=9

Year 2002:
Avg Price=$ 596,071
Avg PSF =$ 387
Total Sold=7

Year 1999-2001:
Avg price=$ 679,552
Avg PSF =$ 440
Total Sold=48
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Suprise! The price even lower than HDB EA and Melview Park......

Less than $300psf 2 years ago! Seems the cheapest cond in Singapore! What's wrong? Any particular reason? Any one knows?

I heard someone buying Baywater for 1.1 Million. It seems that Baywater prices are on the rise. It will be much higher that Aquarius and Clearwater because it is on the WW side of the area.

So far i have not seen it in Caveat but i was told that it will be coming out by late June, mid July..

Anybody has information on this..

Heard that there will be a new project launched this weekend @ Pasir Ris, just next to MRT, and price could be around $600psf.... (hopefully!)

Implication to all the projects in bedok Reservoir?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered.

Heard that there will be a new project launched this weekend @ Pasir Ris, just next to MRT, and price could be around $600psf.... (hopefully!)

Implication to all the projects in bedok Reservoir?

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I don't think so....Pasir Ris and Bedok Reservoir totally diffrernt area.
Back to WW, AQ, CLW and BW....for BW...it seems to be the best unit so far even from WW. WW unit is so small

Any thoughts on BW vs WW properties?

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Originally Posted by Baywater buy

I don't think so....Pasir Ris and Bedok Reservoir totally diffrernt area.
Back to WW, AQ, CLW and BW....for BW...it seems to be the best unit so far even from WW. WW unit is so small

Any thoughts on BW vs WW properties?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered1

5 years later, Baywater will be old also, the layout, design will be out dated. By then, which project still has a selling point? Old AQ cheap with bigger facility? Or Baywater located in the mid of main road with mini facility? While new projects (WW, new one beside tropica), new MRT station at quarry park, I guess BW will drop to the cheapest project in Bedok Reservoir...

For AQ, at least it's good for own stay with family and children, any time still can find this kind of buyers...
Prefer AQ to the rest, only if the price can go below 550psf...

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You are really a BW supportor! :) Will the option from Unregistered1 convince you?

WW is definetely over priced, BW is too small... why not to wait for the new project next to Tropica?

in my humble opinion, if i'm spending 1 mil to get BW, I would rather look for an apt in district 15. Some apartments projects have similar condo facilities with lesser units sharing. definitely more attractive to stay in exclusive brandnew apartments. last heard 3BR at blu coral going at $900+K. Adara after discount 1 mil.