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anyone has a reliable electrician to recommend?
No need to do any extra cabling as it's already provided for fibre.
Just get your Optical Network Terminal box and hook the fibre cable under the OpenNet box and from the latter, hook a cat 5 or 6 ethernet cable to the data point of ethernet box next to the OpenNet box. However, you will have to leave the ONT box inside your DB housing!
Next, hook a cat 5 or 6 ethernet cable to your modem/router/etc from any any data points (living room/bedroom) and you are all set to go!:cool:
Thanks for the info! I went earlier to take a look at the jacks in the bedrooms and thought they were phone line jacks. :banghead:
OpenNet > optical fibre cable > Optical Network Terminal > cat 6 > data box (next to OpenNet)....inside the DB housing.
Outside at the living rom or bedroom
data box > cat 6 > wifi modem > cat 6 > MIO TV box > hdmi > AVR/TV
Note: cat 6 is the ethernet cable.
hdmi is the video/audeio cable
AVR is the audio video receiver
Hope the above is clear!:)
Super clear! Do we need high end hdmi cables?
Francis Woo
10-03-14, 20:29
Make sure it reads fast speed on the hdmi cable sleeve or hdmi 1.4/1.4a and you are safe for both 2D and 3D viewing!:o
No need to spend on expensive cable e.g. Monsters HDMI or other branded ones.
My unit actually has an ethernet jack in the DB box (where the opennet termination box is), and another in the living room. So we can put the fiber router, etc. in the living room - no need to add additional wiring.
Does you unit have?
and I agree with the other poster's recommendation on the Ethernet over Power solution. I've been using it for a few years now, very happy with it. Many companies make it - TP Link, D Link, etc etc etc.
Hi guys,
i understand from my electrician, it seems that the telephone line is cat 5 or 6.
which means you need to convert your telephone port socket to RJ45(lan port) and thats all..
i am going by this means, but have not done it yet..
just to share this alternative as hacking/conceal is quite:(
Hi guys,
i understand from my electrician, it seems that the telephone line is cat 5 or 6.
which means you need to convert your telephone port socket to RJ45(lan port) and thats all..
i am going by this means, but have not done it yet..
just to share this alternative as hacking/conceal is quite:(
Its not that simple. Only 1 of the data point can be the primary link to fibre termination point. The rest of the data points need to be secondary links to the primary data point.
Initially I thought to put wireless modem/router & mioTV in living area which already has an existing data point. Next I will install data points in other bedrooms but electrician says need to do piping from living area to bedrooms which is not recommended as it would cost a bomb as it will require a lot of hacking/conceal to link them from living area to each bedroom.
Another choice is that you can choose to convert the existing telephone port in bedroom to data port, but it will result in the data port in living area not useable unless you do piping from that bedroom back to living area.
The headache is that mioTV will mostly not be next to your computer, so you will still need to spend some money for the piping if you want concealed.
In the end, I choose to convert 2nd bedroom's telephone point to data point, then do concealed piping to master bedroom for mioTV.
So its better to have your electrician to do the concealed wiring before you move in or do any other renovations.
Its not that simple. Only 1 of the data point can be the primary link to fibre termination point. The rest of the data points need to be secondary links to the primary data point.
But you need a router for this configuration that has a DHCP server to assign local IP addresses (most do).
Another choice is that you can choose to convert the existing telephone port in bedroom to data port, but it will result in the data port in living area not useable unless you do piping from that bedroom back to living area.
Hmm, messy. Even though old school telephones are almost obsolete these days!
The headache is that mioTV will mostly not be next to your computer, so you will still need to spend some money for the piping if you want concealed.
In the end, I choose to convert 2nd bedroom's telephone point to data point, then do concealed piping to master bedroom for mioTV.
So its better to have your electrician to do the concealed wiring before you move in or do any other renovations.
Why not use the Ethernet-over-Powerline adapters? (true, it will take away 2 of the abysmally insufficient power outlets, but it's a very solid option that doesn't require an electrician or DIY re-wiring ;-)
Francis Woo
11-03-14, 10:07
Adding additional data line is very messy with cabling work and wires running round. Personally, I would prefer WiFi which is pretty fast nowadays and in a small apartment, the coverage will be excellent without any dropouts! The other option of PowerLine adapters is also commonly used now and performance wise, it's just as good!:)
But you need a router for this configuration that has a DHCP server to assign local IP addresses (most do).
Hmm, messy. Even though old school telephones are almost obsolete these days!
Why not use the Ethernet-over-Powerline adapters? (true, it will take away 2 of the abysmally insufficient power outlets, but it's a very solid option that doesn't require an electrician or DIY re-wiring ;-)
mio TV set box doesn't have WIFI capability. You have to wire it to the modem/router. So still must do concealed wire from 2nd bedroom (computer room) to master bedroom (TV room).
mio TV set box doesn't have WIFI capability. You have to wire it to the modem/router. So still must do concealed wire from 2nd bedroom (computer room) to master bedroom (TV room).
I tot MioTV is useless? the channels are.... :(
Francis Woo
11-03-14, 13:36
mio TV set box doesn't have WIFI capability. You have to wire it to the modem/router. So still must do concealed wire from 2nd bedroom (computer room) to master bedroom (TV room).
Get Singtel to provide you a WiFi Modem since you are into MIO TV!:rolleyes:
I tot MioTV is useless? the channels are.... :(
I did consider MyRepublic's 1 Gbps plan ($49.99 / month) but felt its not suitable because their digital line can not port over. So retaining digital line from singtel cost about $10 per month. Plus you got to pay for the router $170 + installation fee $58.
In Singtel's 200 mbps entertainment plan, if your family has 4 SingTel lines, all of them get to enjoy 25% discount off monthly subscriptions plus free annual handset upgrade for the main line. I also can retain my home digital line. They also give free wireless WIFI modem and free installation (if you sign up during IT Show period).
So if I don't want mio TV, I will still pay the same amount monthly.
As I said, Mio TV doesn't have WIFI, you need to insert a cable from it directly into the WiFi Modem. Singtel can provide the this wiring from modem to mio TV box but it will be non-concealed.
It will look ugly with non-concealed so let the electrician to do the concealed wiring first so later no need to worry about seeing exposed wiring all over the place.
My personal experience with WiFi and concrete walls is pretty poor, which is why I prefer Ethernet over Powerline. My 2 cents ;-)
My personal experience with WiFi and concrete walls is pretty poor, which is why I prefer Ethernet over Powerline. My 2 cents ;-)
You wouldn't get the maximum speed with Ethernet over powerline, it is similar to WiFi, only extends the area of coverage. Wired connection is always the best.
Hi guys,
i understand from my electrician, it seems that the telephone line is cat 5 or 6.
which means you need to convert your telephone port socket to RJ45(lan port) and thats all..
i am going by this means, but have not done it yet..
just to share this alternative as hacking/conceal is quite:(
1. quite unlikely HH use Cat5e or Cat6 cable for telephone line, as phone line usually use 2 pairs cable and Cat cable is 4 pairs.
2. all telephone jacket/lines are connected to the telecom JB inside the DB. so even though they are Cat cable, you still have to pull out from telecom JB and make RJ45 connector by yourself, before connect it to a switch/router.
3. recommend to use AZtech Homeplug - so you can transmit MIO TV to another room. a pair costs less than $100.
it's similar to wire. there is model available for Gbps/fibre.
HH confirmed that the PE certified plumbing drawing (showing a tap at balcony) is a mistake and informed the revised drawing is ready for collection. :doh:
"The revised drawing is ready for collection and you may collect it at the Management Office from Monday to Friday from 830am to
530pm."
NorthernStar
12-03-14, 07:41
1. quite unlikely HH use Cat5e or Cat6 cable for telephone line, as phone line usually use 2 pairs cable and Cat cable is 4 pairs.
2. all telephone jacket/lines are connected to the telecom JB inside the DB. so even though they are Cat cable, you still have to pull out from telecom JB and make RJ45 connector by yourself, before connect it to a switch/router.
3. recommend to use AZtech Homeplug - so you can transmit MIO TV to another room. a pair costs less than $100.
it's similar to wire. there is model available for Gbps/fibre.
i know a few new condo nowadays use RJ45 for the TEL line. most likely it will be a cat5e..
For my condo, we were surprised to see developer used cat6 cable for Tel line. so we just need to convert some Tel lines to Lan lines.
HH confirmed that the PE certified plumbing drawing (showing a tap at balcony) is a mistake and informed the revised drawing is ready for collection. :doh:
"The revised drawing is ready for collection and you may collect it at the Management Office from Monday to Friday from 830am to
530pm."
If you collect it, means you accept their mistake.
Are you sure you want to let them get away with it?
Otherwise, you can use the evidence you got on hand to discuss with your lawyer about it so HH will spend money to do for their mistake.
1. quite unlikely HH use Cat5e or Cat6 cable for telephone line, as phone line usually use 2 pairs cable and Cat cable is 4 pairs.
2. all telephone jacket/lines are connected to the telecom JB inside the DB. so even though they are Cat cable, you still have to pull out from telecom JB and make RJ45 connector by yourself, before connect it to a switch/router.
3. recommend to use AZtech Homeplug - so you can transmit MIO TV to another room. a pair costs less than $100.
it's similar to wire. there is model available for Gbps/fibre.
I have double checked with my electrician, the existing telephone lines is using CAT 5E. So it will not affect the performance. But if you are going to extend the wiring less than 100metres further, it is recommended to use CAT6E.
I have double checked with my electrician, the existing telephone lines is using CAT 5E. So it will not affect the performance. But if you are going to extend the wiring less than 100metres further, it is recommended to use CAT6E.
I am getting a bit confused by all the possible methods available. I need both StarHub and Mio tv in both my living room and master bedroom. :doh:
At times, you need to give those workers a lashing, so pissed off, imagine my balcony walls that are not painted, so they say will paint it nicely, drop by today and guess what, they simply just paint over without removing the bird droppings. :simmering:
Francis Woo
12-03-14, 17:40
I am getting a bit confused by all the possible methods available. I need both StarHub and Mio tv in both my living room and master bedroom. :doh:
Starhub using SCV point which is available in the living and master bedroom so no problem!
MIO TV is using ethernet connection from the data rj45 socket data box, again no problem!
Relax!:)
Francis Woo
12-03-14, 18:18
I have double checked with my electrician, the existing telephone lines is using CAT 5E. So it will not affect the performance. But if you are going to extend the wiring less than 100metres further, it is recommended to use CAT6E.
Nowadays, new condos come with Telephone and Data line connections using Cat5E and are on RJ45 sockets. Gone were the days of RJ11 socket for telephone connection.
However, to convert current telephone cat5e to data line, you will need an electrical knowhow to rewire the cables in the Junction or Distribution box in the DB housing. Good luck!
As MSHLIN suggested, why go thru' all the hassle when you can go the power line home plug way! Easy and cheap!:)
Starhub using SCV point which is available in the living and master bedroom so no problem!
MIO TV is using ethernet connection from the data rj45 socket data box, again no problem!
Relax!:)
Oh.. so its just the fibre Internet that I should be worry about?
Francis Woo
12-03-14, 18:30
Also no need to worry! As explained in my previous post, you just need to connect the WiFi modem to the data box in your living room, connect your MIO box to it and you are all set to go!:)
I found that on balconies, outside the door, the left side and right side are both short of one layer, is this considered defect?
I have attached pic, how do I make it visible?
Also no need to worry! As explained in my previous post, you just need to connect the WiFi modem to the data box in your living room, connect your MIO box to it and you are all set to go!:)
I see. I am just concerned on the wifi strength. Later fibre speed becomes adsl speed. Lol!
why my upload pic always fail? want to upload a pic showing the balcony door ceramic tile left side and right side short of one layer. is that considered as a defect? my pic is 500+kb in jepg format. why I cant attach it here?
why my upload pic always fail? want to upload a pic showing the balcony door ceramic tile left side and right side short of one layer. is that considered as a defect? my pic is 500+kb in jepg format. why I cant attach it here?
If you can provide a link to the pic, I can help you insert here.
Francis Woo
12-03-14, 21:20
I see. I am just concerned on the wifi strength. Later fibre speed becomes adsl speed. Lol!
Haha, you worry too much:). I m on WiFi and can tell you that it's a okay!;)
Haha, you worry too much:). I m on WiFi and can tell you that it's a okay!;)
My master bedroom is quite far from the living room too.
Francis Woo
12-03-14, 22:48
Try it first and if you are not satisfied with the speed, get the power line home plug! No rewiring hassle!
Starhub using SCV point which is available in the living and master bedroom so no problem!
MIO TV is using ethernet connection from the data rj45 socket data box, again no problem!
Relax!:)
I disagree. It is a problem because Jason wants to install mio TV boxes in both living room and master bedroom.
There is no issue with the 1st mio TV box in the living room but to install a 2nd mio TV box in master bedroom, it will be a major project to do concealed wiring tapping from living room across passageway, 3rd bedroom, 2nd bedroom before arriving at master bedroom. That would easily cost a 4 digit figure. If non-concealed, then would be cheaper.
mio TV Box doesn't have WIFI capability to connect to the modem.
I disagree. It is a problem because Jason wants to install mio TV boxes in both living room and master bedroom.
There is no issue with the 1st mio TV box in the living room but to install a 2nd mio TV box in master bedroom, it will be a major project to do concealed wiring tapping from living room across passageway, 3rd bedroom, 2nd bedroom before arriving at master bedroom. That would easily cost a 4 digit figure. If non-concealed, then would be cheaper.
mio TV Box doesn't have WIFI capability to connect to the modem.
Oh... Maybe I should go down to the telcos and check with them too.
Portobello
13-03-14, 13:44
Hi,
Does anyone know if the panel above the folding door of the toilet at the yard is sealed with a glass panel or louvre window? Mine is open, not sealed. Is it a defect? Thanks
Just got reply from LTA about the main gate of vacanza@east:
(In the first email, I question why LTA reject the vacanza@east main gate design so late , and make the condo without main gate now.(which I heard from VE management office.))
below is the reply from LTA:
We wish to clarify that we do not regulate the building main gate provision/ gate design to any development. You may obtain more information from your developer and their consultant.
That means the main gate issue is due to developer, but not LTA.
Just got reply from LTA about the main gate of vacanza@east:
(In the first email, I question why LTA reject the vacanza@east main gate design so late , and make the condo without main gate now.(which I heard from VE management office.))
below is the reply from LTA:
We wish to clarify that we do not regulate the building main gate provision/ gate design to any development. You may obtain more information from your developer and their consultant.
That means the main gate issue is due to developer, but not LTA.
HoiHup is trying to smoke us big time... Many times i can just zoom past the main entrance and into the carpark without being stopped.
Hi,
Does anyone know if the panel above the folding door of the toilet at the yard is sealed with a glass panel or louvre window? Mine is open, not sealed. Is it a defect? Thanks
don't understand your question. can you post a photo here.
I have no folding door in toilet, or at yard.
only one 2-piece glass window and only the upper one can be open.
Just got reply from LTA about the main gate of vacanza@east:
(In the first email, I question why LTA reject the vacanza@east main gate design so late , and make the condo without main gate now.(which I heard from VE management office.))
below is the reply from LTA:
We wish to clarify that we do not regulate the building main gate provision/ gate design to any development. You may obtain more information from your developer and their consultant.
That means the main gate issue is due to developer, but not LTA.
What? Let's get our lawyers to whack Hoi Hup!:simmering:
don't understand your question. can you post a photo here.
I have no folding door in toilet, or at yard.
only one 2-piece glass window and only the upper one can be open.
The yard area only has one louver window beside the sliding door. That cannot be closed and it's easily pried opened.
What? Let's get our lawyers to whack Hoi Hup!:simmering:
I am not sure what to do next, since only the management office told me that LTA reject the main gate, I don't have any black and white.
But I think we need to push them to build a main gate since it is very important, else our swimming pool and play ground will be used as a open facility.
below is the full letter
"
Our Ref: LTA/P&P/TPL/DBC/F20.019.000/8454
Date : 13-Mar-2014
Tel : 6332 8374
Fax :
Enquiry on property Vacanza@east main entrance issue
FEEDBACK NUMBER: 20140303-0463
We refer to your email of 3 March 2014.
We wish to clarify that we do not regulate the building main gate provision/ gate design to any development. You may obtain more information from your developer and their consultant.
We thank you for writing in.
Yours sincerely
Lee Chor Teck
Principal Engineering Officer
Development & Building Control
Roads & Transportation
"
Francis Woo
13-03-14, 16:49
If you need MIO TV in your master bedroom as well, you will have 3 options
1. approach Sngtel to wire another data line to your bedroom (20m wiring is free, thereafter, you pay the difference in the length).
2. buy power line home plug and hook the ONT/MIO box to it
3. rewire the telephone line to a data on at the JB/DB.
Your choice really...good luck.
I am not sure what to do next, since only the management office told me that LTA reject the main gate, I don't have any black and white.
But I think we need to push them to build a main gate since it is very important, else our swimming pool and play ground will be used as a open facility.
below is the full letter
"
Our Ref: LTA/P&P/TPL/DBC/F20.019.000/8454
Date : 13-Mar-2014
Tel : 6332 8374
Fax :
Enquiry on property Vacanza@east main entrance issue
FEEDBACK NUMBER: 20140303-0463
We refer to your email of 3 March 2014.
We wish to clarify that we do not regulate the building main gate provision/ gate design to any development. You may obtain more information from your developer and their consultant.
We thank you for writing in.
Yours sincerely
Lee Chor Teck
Principal Engineering Officer
Development & Building Control
Roads & Transportation
"
Can you forward the reply to hoi hup?
If you need MIO TV in your master bedroom as well, you will have 3 options
1. approach Sngtel to wire another data line to your bedroom (20m wiring is free, thereafter, you pay the difference in the length).
2. buy power line home plug and hook the ONT/MIO box to it
3. rewire the telephone line to a data on at the JB/DB.
Your choice really...good luck.
Ok. Thanks for the advice. Will go check them out.
Can you forward the reply to hoi hup?
But now the problem is HH never reply the email why there is no main gate in VE, the "LTA reject the plan" is from management office, they only told me without any document.
What? Let's get our lawyers to whack Hoi Hup!:simmering:
From what I heard, it got nothing to go with LTA or landed property complaints, it's down to the transponder for our cars, it can't detect if vehicles coming from the sides thus they remove the main gate, which is kind of ridiculous as anyone just come in and out of the condo, after observing for half an hour, I realize especially those agents, just smile and wave to the guards and enter the premises, not safe at all.
Divert attention, do all the toilets have the white block to put items or only master bedroom toilet?
From what I heard, it got nothing to go with LTA or landed property complaints, it's down to the transponder for our cars, it can't detect if vehicles coming from the sides thus they remove the main gate, which is kind of ridiculous as anyone just come in and out of the condo, after observing for half an hour, I realize especially those agents, just smile and wave to the guards and enter the premises, not safe at all.
Divert attention, do all the toilets have the white block to put items or only master bedroom toilet?
Well, at least it's good to have an official reply from hoi hup.
From what I heard, it got nothing to go with LTA or landed property complaints, it's down to the transponder for our cars, it can't detect if vehicles coming from the sides thus they remove the main gate, which is kind of ridiculous as anyone just come in and out of the condo, after observing for half an hour, I realize especially those agents, just smile and wave to the guards and enter the premises, not safe at all.
Divert attention, do all the toilets have the white block to put items or only master bedroom toilet?
yes, even i just drove n rode in w/o even looking at the guards.
white block to put things only in master toilet for my B4
Just went to singtel shop. The staff told me to check whether there is a distribution board in the DB box and whether all the points in the apartment are data points.
my bathroom is without that white solid shelf ...:doh:
Both the bathroom or?
Just went to singtel shop. The staff told me to check whether there is a distribution board in the DB box and whether all the points in the apartment are data points.
the answer is no and no.:D
I disagree. It is a problem because Jason wants to install mio TV boxes in both living room and master bedroom.
There is no issue with the 1st mio TV box in the living room but to install a 2nd mio TV box in master bedroom, it will be a major project to do concealed wiring tapping from living room across passageway, 3rd bedroom, 2nd bedroom before arriving at master bedroom. That would easily cost a 4 digit figure. If non-concealed, then would be cheaper.
mio TV Box doesn't have WIFI capability to connect to the modem.
I have a solution/idea:
1. get the 2nd TV box - I don't know how but maybe buy from Singtel?
2. in your mio modem, configure VLAN 20 to another Ethernet port
3. from this port, connect a Cat5e cable to a Homeplug
4. use another homeplug in master room, pair them.
5. from this homeplug, connect a Cat5e cable to TV box
6. connect your TV to TV box.
It just an idea, not proved to work.
Singtel also provide another solution:
http://techsupport.singnet.com.sg/overview
Stupid contractor created stupid problem which requires a stupid solution.
Ask the three guards to rotate shift to guard the main gate by one guard sitting in the middle of the road to force drivers to stop.
Cars I am not so worried because we have the automatic barriers.
Public I am worried because they can literally walk past the guards and into the condominium.
I am not sure what to do next, since only the management office told me that LTA reject the main gate, I don't have any black and white.
But I think we need to push them to build a main gate since it is very important, else our swimming pool and play ground will be used as a open facility.
below is the full letter
"
Our Ref: LTA/P&P/TPL/DBC/F20.019.000/8454
Date : 13-Mar-2014
Tel : 6332 8374
Fax :
Enquiry on property Vacanza@east main entrance issue
FEEDBACK NUMBER: 20140303-0463
We refer to your email of 3 March 2014.
We wish to clarify that we do not regulate the building main gate provision/ gate design to any development. You may obtain more information from your developer and their consultant.
We thank you for writing in.
Yours sincerely
Lee Chor Teck
Principal Engineering Officer
Development & Building Control
Roads & Transportation
"
From what I heard, it got nothing to go with LTA or landed property complaints, it's down to the transponder for our cars, it can't detect if vehicles coming from the sides thus they remove the main gate, which is kind of ridiculous as anyone just come in and out of the condo, after observing for half an hour, I realize especially those agents, just smile and wave to the guards and enter the premises, not safe at all.
Divert attention, do all the toilets have the white block to put items or only master bedroom toilet?
for mine, only 1 white block in mbr shower cubicle. none in the common toilet.
Why can't we write a petition to HH with all our concerns and cc lta.. Let the 2 fight and we wait and see. Best cc our mp in our estate..
the answer is no and no.:D
Huh? So all the points I see in the living room and bed rooms are not data points?
Why can't we write a petition to HH with all our concerns and cc lta.. Let the 2 fight and we wait and see. Best cc our mp in our estate..
I can help to highlight to MP. So we need the petition first.
I can help to highlight to MP. So we need the petition first.
I do not think it will be productive to involve an MP and LTA has already stated they are not involved. Looks like its between owners and HH.
Today the guards sit outside. When it starts raining ......
I don't think it has to do with the transponder too as alluded to by a former earlier. We just need a barrier at the entrance and the current barrier system inside the car park should still stay though it will be better to locate it at the car park entrance below the V@E sign.
If the ingress and egress barriers are fitted close enough, it will also prevent people from walking in away from the guardroom.
Anyone knows who/how to contact HH about this? I don't know how this works but can we not accept the completion of the development (until the security matter is satisfactorily resolved)?
I do not think it will be productive to involve an MP and LTA has already stated they are not involved. Looks like its between owners and HH.
Today the guards sit outside. When it starts raining ......
I don't think it has to do with the transponder too as alluded to by a former earlier. We just need a barrier at the entrance and the current barrier system inside the car park should still stay though it will be better to locate it at the car park entrance below the V@E sign.
If the ingress and egress barriers are fitted close enough, it will also prevent people from walking in away from the guardroom.
Anyone knows who/how to contact HH about this? I don't know how this works but can we not accept the completion of the development (until the security matter is satisfactorily resolved)?
I had highlighted to my lawyers who handled the purchase but they had not gotten back to us also. Take our money and run liao.
May I know in the kitchen, who has listed the space (sides stuffed with plywood leaving a huge space for insects in the middle) under the oven as a defect and have got it rectified?
Thanks!
If you can provide a link to the pic, I can help you insert here.
Thank you for your kindness. let me try one more time.
Is below considered a defect?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7311/13146469805_1338f19b6b_b.jpg
I think it's not a defect. the hole on the sliding rail is to drain water, so the outside tile has to be like that for water flow.
Thank you for your kindness. let me try one more time.
Is below considered a defect?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7311/13146469805_1338f19b6b_b.jpg
May I know in the kitchen, who has listed the space (sides stuffed with plywood leaving a huge space for insects in the middle) under the oven as a defect and have got it rectified?
Thanks!
Its the final defect that was rectified on 4th March for me. But they did not do a good job. In the end, I bought my own and DIY to touch up the remaining loss ends because if I wait for them, it will delay my renovation.
Francis Woo
14-03-14, 22:18
Thank you for your kindness. let me try one more time.
Is below considered a defect?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7311/13146469805_1338f19b6b_b.jpg
If you are referring to the water outlet, it's not! However, the workmanship on the left side edge between the vertical and horizontal threads is definitely not acceptable and has to be reworked. Definitely a defect!
Its the final defect that was rectified on 4th March for me. But they did not do a good job. In the end, I bought my own and DIY to touch up the remaining loss ends because if I wait for them, it will delay my renovation.
thanks superman. will go remind them again i want it covered properly. and for e balcony tiles pic near e water outlet posted above i also listed the poor finishing as a defect. wanna close one eye but insects will make their home beneath e oven for sure. totally un acceptable:simmering:
I think it's not a defect. the hole on the sliding rail is to drain water, so the outside tile has to be like that for water flow.
If you are referring to the water outlet, it's not! However, the workmanship on the left side edge between the vertical and horizontal threads is definitely not acceptable and has to be reworked. Definitely a defect!
Thank you both! Looking forward to meeting your guys around. :cheers1:
We visited our unit today. Had the joint defect inspection exactly 2 weeks ago. Only very few minor things done so far.
We arrived in the morning and were a bit shocked to find our door closed and unlocked! But shortly after, one of the (managers?) from the building office (malaysian chinese I think) who assisted in our joint inspection came by and said don't worry his workers are in and out today. hmm..
Any way, we inquired about the tiles (we have one of the lucky units where the color of some of the tiles DON'T match the others!)
We told him we just want it all replaced. He said, no, they can't do that, but the tile guys are coming on Tuesday, and what they'll do is put on a new sealant (i think), and repolish, and that will fix the color issue (along with the other blemishes). He said it worked well for other units.
I am skeptical. Anyone else have experience here?
a unit on my floor had all their tiles hacked n replaced
We visited our unit today. Had the joint defect inspection exactly 2 weeks ago. Only very few minor things done so far.
We arrived in the morning and were a bit shocked to find our door closed and unlocked! But shortly after, one of the (managers?) from the building office (malaysian chinese I think) who assisted in our joint inspection came by and said don't worry his workers are in and out today. hmm..
Any way, we inquired about the tiles (we have one of the lucky units where the color of some of the tiles DON'T match the others!)
We told him we just want it all replaced. He said, no, they can't do that, but the tile guys are coming on Tuesday, and what they'll do is put on a new sealant (i think), and repolish, and that will fix the color issue (along with the other blemishes). He said it worked well for other units.
I am skeptical. Anyone else have experience here?
i am lucky to have only a tile w a couple blue stains and they say they will not replace the tile but will rectify w chemical. a fren in tile biz told me this is possible but will take hrs to lighten the stains only. my reno contractor told me dat replacing e tile will take only 2 hrs but then cannot guarantee same tone
a unit on my floor had all their tiles hacked n replaced
this is probably the best solution maybe but will take more time. so depends on what you want and what you can live with
this is probably the best solution maybe but will take more time. so depends on what you want and what you can live with
I just want my tiles to look "correct" - I don't care how they do it! ;-)
My concern is with tiles that are obviously damaged where they filled it in. Don't think chemicals can fix that... :(
I just want my tiles to look "correct" - I don't care how they do it! ;-)
My concern is with tiles that are obviously damaged where they filled it in. Don't think chemicals can fix that... :(
yes agree totally. on another thing: anyone noticed what looks like small transparent round stoppers on ur door frame? at the part where ur room or toilet wooden door may come into contact with after you close the door. 1 high & 1 low. i noticed them on my common door frame but not on the others.
yes agree totally. on another thing: anyone noticed what looks like small transparent round stoppers on ur door frame? at the part where ur room or toilet wooden door may come into contact with after you close the door. 1 high & 1 low. i noticed them on my common door frame but not on the others.
yes I also raise it as defect because some door frames have only 1 pc, but the indian guy from service center said it's not as it's for alignment. dont know he did not understand or act blur. but it's minor and can be fixed by ourself thus i did not insist. :(
Francis Woo
17-03-14, 14:58
Just got a call from Kumar that the defects will be fully rectified by today and that we can have a joint inspection on Wed 4 pm.
Those interested to catch him can come down during the inspection and grill him on defects that you need clarification!:)
38#01-09
Just got a call from Kumar that the defects will be fully rectified by today and that we can have a joint inspection on Wed 4 pm.
Those interested to catch him can come down during the inspection and grill him on defects that you need clarification!:)
38#01-09
Huh? My neighbour sia. Your mum happens to have two small dogs?
Francis Woo
17-03-14, 15:57
No lah! My unit is going to be rented out!:)
Blacknight
17-03-14, 22:23
Huh? My neighbour sia. Your mum happens to have two small dogs?
Yah the 2 small dogs are peeing everywhere they go in the estate, don't see the old woman carrying any poo bag too. Beware your steps:scared-4:
Blacknight
17-03-14, 22:34
Read many complains on the defects here, which clearly are not the service office fault. They just took over the shit from the contractors. Rule of thumb is be nice to people, no?
While we upgraded our lifestyle with more luxurious home and cars, we need to upgrade ourselves too. Just my humble opinion:tongue3:
Is this a defect ? Should developer paint the wall for us?
currently the wall is not painted and easy to be scratched.
Is this a defect ? Should developer paint the wall for us?
currently the wall is not painted and easy to be scratched.
think u didnt manage to attach the pix?
think u didnt manage to attach the pix?
Some useful tips found on the net:
http://sharonanngoh.com/buy-sell/common-defects/
Some useful tips found on the net:
http://sharonanngoh.com/buy-sell/common-defects/
Thanks for your useful information.
Is this a defect ? Should developer paint the wall for us?
currently the wall is not painted and easy to be scratched.
iirc, all walls include celling will have a lay of base paint(white) so you still need to engage painter to repaint to your house.
Did anyone managed to get their parquet flooring redone? Mine has all differing colour tones and has squirly white marks on the wood grains. it's terrible. the contractors obviously didn't colour match the pieces before laying them.
iirc, all walls include celling will have a lay of base paint(white) so you still need to engage painter to repaint to your house.
thanks, I have enquired some agents for painting price, which around 1200 to 1500 for two bedroom house.
Did anyone managed to get their parquet flooring redone? Mine has all differing colour tones and has squirly white marks on the wood grains. it's terrible. the contractors obviously didn't colour match the pieces before laying them.
me too. but I dunt want to redo the parquet flooring. I just request developer change parts of parquet floor which got problem.
me too. but I dunt want to redo the parquet flooring. I just request developer change parts of parquet floor which got problem.
What problem did you have with the flooring? Swirling marks? I thought they won't because it is a 'natural' product?
Did anyone managed to get their parquet flooring redone? Mine has all differing colour tones and has squirly white marks on the wood grains. it's terrible. the contractors obviously didn't colour match the pieces before laying them.
Mine was redone yesterday, took them one full day, a lot of work involved.
Another way is ask them to varnish the parquet flooring.
Meeting Maria to collect my keys at 3pm later, major defects rectified, left some minor ones, btw anyone got their main door replaced?
Is this a defect ? Should developer paint the wall for us?
currently the wall is not painted and easy to be scratched.
For mine, under the sunlight, if you observe at the sides, can see some walls not painted nicely and equally, when consulted, they say it's the brush which is bullshit, in the end, they repaint the walls for me, going down to see how it look shortly.
What problem did you have with the flooring? Swirling marks? I thought they won't because it is a 'natural' product?
some are quite dark, comparing with others.
looks like burned before.
Francis Woo
19-03-14, 19:28
There are 2 serious and some very minor defects still not rectified. Kumar told me that these will be completed by Friday. Will see then!:(
I submitted my key to Kumar in order for my unit's rectification on Feb 18 and up to now, only my kitchen is rectified. 90% still unrectified after one month!!
I plan to shift in end May!
There are 2 serious and some very minor defects still not rectified. Kumar told me that these will be completed by Friday. Will see then!:(
Have an odd question.
Has anyone looked behind the wall switches? Know if they are wired with a neutral wire?
betterman1234
19-03-14, 22:19
Have an odd question.
Has anyone looked behind the wall switches? Know if they are wired with a neutral wire?
What kind wall switches ? For light switches , neutral wire is not required.
For double pole switches , yes there are neutral wires , usually use for water heater switches , cooker hob switches , cooker hood switches etc.
Most of my rectifications done, left with the glass panel door for the kitchen yard which they ordered, replaced when ready, and also the main door which also ordered, replaced when ready. Cheers
this is probably the best solution maybe but will take more time. so depends on what you want and what you can live with
Most of my rectifications done, left with the glass panel door for the kitchen yard which they ordered, replaced when ready, and also the main door which also ordered, replaced when ready. Cheers
May I ask what's the defect on your main door? Why need to replace? Thanks.
Francis Woo
19-03-14, 23:16
I submitted my key to Kumar in order for my unit's rectification on Feb 18 and up to now, only my kitchen is rectified. 90% still unrectified after one month!!
I plan to shift in end May!
If you don't threaten, they don't move! I asked him to sign my notification that if the rectifications are not completed within a month, I will engage my contractor to do it and charge the cost to them.
If you don't threaten, they don't move! I asked him to sign my notification that if the rectifications are not completed within a month, I will engage my contractor to do it and charge the cost to them.
wow power. after 1 mth they have another 14 days to get it done b4 u activate ur own contractors. means actually its 1.5mths. just dat u need to do e work of getting quotes after 1 mth
some are quite dark, comparing with others.
looks like burned before.
Mine has like 3 different shades of brown all randomly placed. Some panels even has the squirly marks which is really ugly.
U just tagged those "burnt" panels? Was the end result acceptable to u?
thanks, I have enquired some agents for painting price, which around 1200 to 1500 for two bedroom house.
hi guys, for internal painting job, Nippon is highly recommended. just painted my B4 2 bedder unit last week. very professionally done! Nippon is having a promo now............. check it out!
http://www.nipponpaint.com.sg/services/professional-painting-service/current-promotions/paint-and-save-promotion/
hi guys, for internal painting job, Nippon is highly recommended. just painted my B4 2 bedder unit last week. very professionally done! Nippon is having a promo now............. check it out!
http://www.nipponpaint.com.sg/services/professional-painting-service/current-promotions/paint-and-save-promotion/
thanks for the tip! there's no hidden cost to the $1,050 / $950?
Mine has like 3 different shades of brown all randomly placed. Some panels even has the squirly marks which is really ugly.
U just tagged those "burnt" panels? Was the end result acceptable to u?
Of course not acceptable, but no choice except to change all floor.
how do you deal with your floor?
Of course not acceptable, but no choice except to change all floor.
how do you deal with your floor?
Have yet to file my defects but from the looks of it, it's going to be a complete overhaul. :doh:
was just worried that they would not accommodate to the request as it's a major job and just blame it on the wood's natural design.
hi guys, for internal painting job, Nippon is highly recommended. just painted my B4 2 bedder unit last week. very professionally done! Nippon is having a promo now............. check it out!
http://www.nipponpaint.com.sg/services/professional-painting-service/current-promotions/paint-and-save-promotion/
Thanks, mine is also 2 bedroom, the price is quite good.
how long do they paint for your house?
hazellimhj
20-03-14, 10:53
Most of my rectifications done, left with the glass panel door for the kitchen yard which they ordered, replaced when ready, and also the main door which also ordered, replaced when ready. Cheers
Hi, like to check on what's yr defect to get the main door replaced? Our door has some scratches but Kumar did not say that he is going to replace it :scared-5:
The condition of the metal railings on my balcony is really really bad. Rusted all over. I wonder how they're going to rectify this.
The condition of the metal railings on my balcony is really really bad. Rusted all over. I wonder how they're going to rectify this.
Yes. They used very bad stainless steel grade. Mine also same problem.
How do main contractor rectify for it? Any idea?
Yes. They used very bad stainless steel grade. Mine also same problem.
How do main contractor rectify for it? Any idea?
They will repolish the railing to remove the rusty spots and owner have to maintain thereafter...
They will repolish the railing to remove the rusty spots and owner have to maintain thereafter...
wow... seems hard to maintain as outdoor.
My neighbour's unit is more worst then me. She said she will ask main con to redo new one. I know unlikely to get new one.
May I ask what's the defect on your main door? Why need to replace? Thanks.
veneer bulging out at the bottom the door, after few times repaired, nothing seems to be able to fix it so have to replace the door
Hi, like to check on what's yr defect to get the main door replaced? Our door has some scratches but Kumar did not say that he is going to replace it :scared-5:
For scratches, they will only touch up, but of course you can insist they change a new one for you if its not acceptable. For mine, scratches have been touched up with some kind of tapes but the colour will be slightly off, but the veneer bulging out its not acceptable for me, imagine haven't move it, already bulging out, what if its get worse, if contacted with water, it will further damage the door, thus insist on replacing the door.
The condition of the metal railings on my balcony is really really bad. Rusted all over. I wonder how they're going to rectify this.
Use a magnet to try, if it stick on the railings, means they used the cheaper grade of stainless steel.
To fix this problem, the best to powercoat it but will be costly, ask the developer to pay?
Cheaper alternative is use stainless steel cleaner to go over one layer, then use car sealing wax. Eg, turtle wax
Just clarified a few things with Mr Patrick today. Wall light fixtures at balcony area are fine.Toilet exhaust fans are fine too. Their concerns are mainly on concealed wiring and other electrical staff.
Thanks, mine is also 2 bedroom, the price is quite good.
how long do they paint for your house?
Hi, mine completed in 1 day job....... was expecting 2 days max. I even got the painters to sand and smoothen some wall/ceiling areas. Very professionally done.
thanks for the tip! there's no hidden cost to the $1,050 / $950?
no hidden costs........ we went for the top package S$1150/-
the was no paint smell at all.
Use a magnet to try, if it stick on the railings, means they used the cheaper grade of stainless steel.
To fix this problem, the best to powercoat it but will be costly, ask the developer to pay?
Cheaper alternative is use stainless steel cleaner to go over one layer, then use car sealing wax. Eg, turtle wax
Thanks for alternative solution.
Francis Woo
21-03-14, 20:47
Another round of joint inspection and the final analysis, to replace two homogenous floor tiles at the sliding door area and re-sand a small portion of the 2nd bedroom wall and re-paint to be completed next week Wednesday.
I spent an hour today instructing their workers to touch up and clean up the whole place. The balcony's steel railing was reworked with steel polisher and now look okay!:)
I emailed URA about the interim park at Lengkong Empat and Jalan Selamat (Lengkong Tujoh) and received this positive response:
"The land parcel at the intersection of Lengkong Empat and Jalan Selamat is zoned Residential (3-sty mixed landed) in Master Plan 2008 for low density housing. An interim park was implemented as part of the Jalan Senang Estate Upgrading Programme (EUP) works. There are no immediate plans to develop the site and we will keep the interim park for as long as it is not required for development. "
Akira Fudou
21-03-14, 23:12
Any conclusion on the main door? whether it is suppose to stay ajar when fully open?
and the suppose "Mama" shop become a learning centre? :doh:
Francis Woo
21-03-14, 23:29
According to Fire Safety requirement, all Fire Rated door is not allowed to be left opened! Hence, there is no magnetic stopper to hold the door ajar.
You can always ask your block supervisor in charge to adjust the hydraulic lever at the top of the door frame to hold the door ajar at an 90 degrees angle. Again, at your own risk but you are not alone:)
Cheers
They will not adjust the door for you. You have to do it yourself. Find a right sized allen key to fit the hole. Loosen it and adjust it to suit your requirement by sliding it along the groove. One its in the desired position, just tighten it and done!
Akira Fudou
22-03-14, 08:38
thank you guys for the clarification and work around... since it is not a defect i will just leave it for the time being...
Francis Woo
22-03-14, 10:18
They will not adjust the door for you. You have to do it yourself. Find a right sized allen key to fit the hole. Loosen it and adjust it to suit your requirement by sliding it along the groove. One its in the desired position, just tighten it and done!
If you are in Blk 38, get hold of Kumar to get his man to do it. He did it for my door and you can quote me if he refused!:)
Just completed my joint inspection with Mr. Kumar. Took half hour but according to him, rectification will take about a month for the 45 defect items!:scared-1:
I thought you did your 1st joint inspection on 20 February?
If Kumar can only finish your defects on 26 March, it will be beyond the maximum of 4 weeks rectification time.
So are you going to claim anything from the developer for loss of rental income?
Based on my estimated calculation: At least $3200 to $3500 on rental income + $150 to $300 on property tax + $308 on maintenance fee for leaving your home empty for 5-6 weeks. That's worth more than $3600. :2cents:
Another 2 weeks past, till now Kumar has not approached me on the outstanding issue with my main door frame & balcony railing issues.
Went to check on the rectifications today. This is week 3 since joint inspection 3 saturdays ago (so 1 more week plus a couple of days left!)
I was happy to see the workers FINALLY sorting out my tile situation. They are in the process of replacing some of then damaged tiles. They will then do the chemical / repolishing (hopefully this afternoon). This, they claim, will solve the two tone color issue!
They have also done a lot of repainting, fixed cracks, added more sealants around pipes, this past week, etc.
Fingers crossed we're be ready to go in a week's time.
Francis Woo
22-03-14, 15:43
I thought you did your 1st joint inspection on 20 February?
If Kumar can only finish your defects on 26 March, it will be beyond the maximum of 4 weeks rectification time.
So are you going to claim anything from the developer for loss of rental income?
Based on my estimated calculation: At least $3200 to $3500 on rental income + $150 to $300 on property tax + $308 on maintenance fee for leaving your home empty for 5-6 weeks. That's worth more than $3600. :2cents:
Another 2 weeks past, till now Kumar has not approached me on the outstanding issue with my main door frame & balcony railing issues.
I submitted mine on the 22nd Feb, so technically, they have until 26th to complete all the stuff. My final inspection will be on the 26th next week Wednesday. Hope they will have replaced the 2 chipped floor tiles and reworked the uneven wall in the 2nd bedroom by then!:scared-5:
Any conclusion on the main door? whether it is suppose to stay ajar when fully open?
and the suppose "Mama" shop become a learning centre? :doh:
I can help you with the Allen key, less than one minute job, I'm equally surprised too, trading shop become learning school
Portobello
22-03-14, 18:39
I can help you with the Allen key, less than one minute job, I'm equally surprised too, trading shop become learning school
Learning School? Does it mean that outsiders can also come in our estate?? :scared-4:
Learning School? Does it mean that outsiders can also come in our estate?? :scared-4:
that's ridiculous. shall we complain to Management?:simmering:
that's ridiculous. shall we complain to Management?:simmering:
I totally agree! It's ridiculous!! If they're going to open a learning centre, it should serve the residents only.
Any conclusion on the main door? whether it is suppose to stay ajar when fully open?
and the suppose "Mama" shop become a learning centre? :doh:
What is this "Mama" shop?
Do you mean that the retail shop next to the management office has turned into a tuition centre for students? :scared-3:
What is this "Mama" shop?
Do you mean that the retail shop next to the management office has turned into a tuition centre for students? :scared-3:
if so this will create un-necessary additional traffic!
I am equally upset if this is the case. What sort of special arrangement/deal is this?
The developer/Management should remember how the property is being marketed in the first place. While I didnt buy VE because there is a Mama Shop, it is definitely an important factor to take into consideration to balance the disadvantages of this development located inside the Kembangan area.
What is this "Mama" shop?
Do you mean that the retail shop next to the management office has turned into a tuition centre for students? :scared-3:
What is this "Mama" shop?
Do you mean that the retail shop next to the management office has turned into a tuition centre for students? :scared-3:
it's a playgroup class for 18 to 30 months old. :doh:
it's a playgroup class for 18 to 30 months old. :doh:
I suppose that's the only type of business that could afford the rumored outrageous rental of 6k (I heard from an agent, may not be totally correct)
While I have a young daughter who could benefit from a playgroup in our neighborhood, since I already put down a deposit for a playgroup on jalan kembengan several months ago, i think a mama shop would be a wiser option for the bulk of the residents...
it's a playgroup class for 18 to 30 months old. :doh:
Very disappointing! With only 1 retail shop, if no café, they should be running a convenience store at the minimum which everyone needs it at one time or another! :simmering:
Very disappointing! With only 1 retail shop, if no café, they should be running a convenience store at the minimum which everyone needs it at one time or another! :simmering:
Guess we have to plan our eggs consumption a little better :( NTUC is a long walk away!
I can help you with the Allen key, less than one minute job, I'm equally surprised too, trading shop become learning school
Are you 100% sure that the retail shop has been rented out to someone who intends to run a learning centre?
I still see it being advertised $6000 on CommercialGuru website as at 21st March 2014.
Link: http://www.commercialguru.com.sg/listing/17037929/for-rent-retail-shop-within-vacanza-east
I am also puzzled why the rental is so high? I seen other condo project trying to rent out their commercial shop at only half the price ($3000) which is a more reasonable figure.
Akira Fudou
23-03-14, 10:38
i actually do not mind that the convenience shop is not happening. i dont like the idea of having tom dick and harry coming in and go as and well they like... the stupid entrance is already giving so much trouble and now couple with this childcare establisment, all hell break loose...
I still see it being advertised $6000 on CommercialGuru website as at 21st March 2014.
Link: http://www.commercialguru.com.sg/listing/17037929/for-rent-retail-shop-within-vacanza-east
I like how the douche bag is saying the space is suitable as an "internet cafe". wtf.
Regarding the gate issue, I would like to propose a petition to Hoi Hup. They need to give us the proper explanation instead of getting the condo management to give us a cocktail and bull story of local authorities not allowing Vacanza to have one. This is already clarified by LTA. We cannot take this lying down or just complaining in here.
Regarding the gate issue, I would like to propose a petition to Hoi Hup. They need to give us the proper explanation instead of getting the condo management to give us a cocktail and bull story of local authorities not allowing Vacanza to have one. This is already clarified by LTA. We cannot take this lying down or just complaining in here.
That usually happen when we set up resident committee to propose changes or the developer or management team. A gate is a must, current situation is anyone can just come in, it's just not safe.
That usually happen when we set up resident committee to propose changes or the developer or management team. A gate is a must, current situation is anyone can just come in, it's just not safe.
We can't wait until one year later after the DLP period then form the resident committee then kpkb. Too late.
We can't wait until one year later after the DLP period then form the resident committee then kpkb. Too late.
Agreed, putting ourselves in danger, how shall we go ahead with it?
Agreed, putting ourselves in danger, how shall we go ahead with it?
why not all of us set a date and talk to the management that we need a gate. I strongly believe that action is louder than words here.
it's 200% sure as the banners for open house (on 30 Mar) have been set up everywhere (at least I have seen two around Kembangan area).
http://1drv.ms/1nS4E1l
PS. Not able to upload photo here. it happens often. :(
Are you 100% sure that the retail shop has been rented out to someone who intends to run a learning centre?
I still see it being advertised $6000 on CommercialGuru website as at 21st March 2014.
Link: http://www.commercialguru.com.sg/listing/17037929/for-rent-retail-shop-within-vacanza-east
I am also puzzled why the rental is so high? I seen other condo project trying to rent out their commercial shop at only half the price ($3000) which is a more reasonable figure.
Francis Woo
24-03-14, 10:42
Use the app calls Photobucket (it's free), upload the photos there and then copy the photo from the IMG file and paste it over here!
I am with you guys on this gate issue, let's fix a date and time for all to meet and talk to HH!
it's 200% sure as the banners for open house (on 30 Mar) have been set up everywhere (at least I have seen two around Kembangan area).
http://1drv.ms/1nS4E1l
PS. Not able to upload photo here. it happens often. :(
Advertising of the learning centre beyond the boundary of the condominium is 100% not acceptable. They are inviting outsiders to come in.
I have just wrote an email to Patrick on the security matters & unauthorised use of Vacanza @ East Condominium facilities. Will be waiting for his reply.
I will only be free to meet up from 18th April onwards after I have moved in!
Why is this development so rojak?
Seems like a private development to a certain extent then we've got the issue of the free entry and child care opened to public which will then allow the non-residents to wander all over...
Neither here nor there...
Next you will see the shuttle bus ferrying in non-residents...
Reminds me of the Trojan horse, where the enemies were hiding in the structure to get in. Once they are in... ATTACK!!!
siewsphone
24-03-14, 17:10
Maybe you guys can gather outside the learning center to protest on the open house day. :scared-2:
below is the reply for HH regarding the main gate:
"
We would like to inform that there will not have any entrance barrier at the development as we have not obtained the necessary approval from the authority for the installation. Nevertheless, our guards will be carrying out stringent checks and enforcement at the entrance to upkeep the security of the development.
We hope the above clarifies.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Nicolle Koo (Ms)
Property Manager
"
when I ask for what approval and from which government department, there is no more reply.
I think we need to go to legal ways to protect our right.
by the way, today I walked into vacanza without showing anything, nobody stops me.
one question regarding our wooden floor, can we polish our wooden floor?
because kumar told me he only can wax the floor , the wooden floor cannot be polished?
anybody know why?
so far, I cannot accept his reply.
one question regarding our wooden floor, can we polish our wooden floor?
because kumar told me he only can wax the floor , the wooden floor cannot be polished?
anybody know why?
so far, I cannot accept his reply.
I request them to varnish the parquet flooring, quite acceptable for me, it's their so called polished. For the answer to cannot Polish is ridiculous, just that it will be more tedious and time consuming.
Maybe you guys can gather outside the learning center to protest on the open house day. :scared-2:
I saw the people rented the shop taking measurements for their shop, the opening date if not wrong is 30th march, later I go down, take photo of the banner before leaving.
Advertising of the learning centre beyond the boundary of the condominium is 100% not acceptable. They are inviting outsiders to come in.
I have just wrote an email to Patrick on the security matters & unauthorised use of Vacanza @ East Condominium facilities. Will be waiting for his reply.
I will only be free to meet up from 18th April onwards after I have moved in!
Totally agree!!. I would insist on a retail shop that serves V@E residents exclusively. This was what was promised when we bought the units. Before you know it, everyone who has paid for the learning centre fees will make use of the facilities!!.
Akira Fudou
24-03-14, 19:36
We need to also gather all other residents that are not in this forum.
im getting real frustrated at how things unfold... crap...
Quote: Next you will see the shuttle bus ferrying in non-residents...
I oredi know of one incident an outsider (A person coming to quote for some works ) who took shuttle bus whereby I am shock to see her walking in from the shuttle bus stop area...
the absence of the gate is totally unacceptable......guess have to contact the chairman of hoihup to see if this is their standard.......people are just walking in n out......not saying cars
now still allow service provider to reach out to public........what rights do we have to counteract this.......6,000 / 445 units = $13 / $308 maintenance fees = 4%................i think even $2,000 rental for a convenience shop/ cafe to serve residence needs is worth much more than this.........any consultation with the residents necessary........hopefully there is no takeup rate else its really headache
Just send Hoi Hup an official letter and politely let them know the media is always interested in news.
Nicolle is sprouting nonsense. 'Stringent checks'? I don't even see 'basic checks'! Vehicles and people are just whizzing in.
"We would like to inform that there will not have any entrance barrier at the development as we have not obtained the necessary approval from the authority for the installation."
So the phrase in bold/italic/underlined - so they are saying it wil be obtained - just not yet.
Right now, the only thing missing at the main entrance is a neon sign with the words - OPEN TO PUBLIC
below is the reply for HH regarding the main gate:
"
We would like to inform that there will not have any entrance barrier at the development as we have not obtained the necessary approval from the authority for the installation. Nevertheless, our guards will be carrying out stringent checks and enforcement at the entrance to upkeep the security of the development.
We hope the above clarifies.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Nicolle Koo (Ms)
Property Manager
"
when I ask for what approval and from which government department, there is no more reply.
I think we need to go to legal ways to protect our right.
by the way, today I walked into vacanza without showing anything, nobody stops me.
when I ask for what approval and from which government department, there is no more reply.
I read this as she is lying. And she cannot come up with another lie to cover the earlier ones.
Just send Hoi Hup an official letter and politely let them know the media is always interested in news.
Involving the media can be a double-edged sword. And we are at the losing end. As far as HH is concerned, V@E is a project completed - they have other fish to fry .....
I think this Pre-Sch, Prodigy, is going into condos to setup their branches.. the newly TOP Minton, also has a branch of this school :
http://prodigy.edu.sg/preschool/contact-us/
Totally agree!!. I would insist on a retail shop that serves V@E residents exclusively. This was what was promised when we bought the units. Before you know it, everyone who has paid for the learning centre fees will make use of the facilities!!.
I am appalled by this! How can the shop unit serve outsiders???
The Vacanza prospectus (or whatever that marketing book is called!) says that Other Facilities include a "Commercial Shop Unit". Do we have a case? A learning centre is not a shop is it?
iwantgizmos
25-03-14, 01:20
Pre-sch kids might also add to the noise during the day...
This might be a secondary factor to some, but I think a home should be tranquil and peaceful, i.e. an escape from the hustle and bustle of life....
Between now and the time we form our own mgt committee, aka 1 year from feb 2014 (dunno which date), we as individual house owners cannot do anything to change the current rules and management committee.
This is unless a significant number of house owners (I dunno how many percent is significant) file a class action through lawyers against HH with a reasonable cause. A threat to security and no convenience shop that was publicized are good reasons to file a complaint to the BCA. This involves money.
Practical side, most residents of new TOP condo tolerate/work alongside their mgt committee to resolve critical issues and I believe security is one of the critical issues.
Current attitude of HH is to pacify the residents as long as possible unless hand over the powers to the resident committee next year Feb 2015. In Singapore, talking to our MP also can help to persuade HH to address our concerns about security and no-show of convenience shop. That's how much we can do as a class action.
Pre-sch kids might also add to the noise during the day...
This might be a secondary factor to some, but I think a home should be tranquil and peaceful, i.e. an escape from the hustle and bustle of life....
People people, please understand the dynamics of this situation.
First, the shop space is a privately owned unit. The owner is out to maximize his profit and apparently he/she/it will be getting above market returns for his investment. 6000 monthly rental is awful lot of money. The owner may or may not be an owner of a residential unit here and frankly the owners does not care about how the shop affects our lives.
What can we do now? Nothing. The laws of Singapore protects the shop owner. This is a pro-trade country. The owner can choose to rent out to whoever as long as it is within the laws of this country. Even if he opens a massage joint, so as long as he obtains the proper license, it is also possible. The Police also will take a look at his location before giving their approval. In our case, a massage liven r may be difficult to obtain. So currently the owner got a education centre license, if something were to happen to this license, then no more enrichment class. U get the idea right? Talk to MP and this license may get revoked.
What can we do in the future? One year from now, we have formed our mgt com. The council members may propose to restrict the operating hours of the shop citing reasons as limiting disturbance to public after certain hours or restrict use of facilities quoting security of premises as reasons. We may be able to reach agreement with the owner without lawyers if the owner is understanding. If not understanding then again, arbitration is another solution. In a years time, We can also install gates and instruct guards to check all vehicles/pedestrians. Once u restrict access, you can also control the crowd better.
I am equally upset if this is the case. What sort of special arrangement/deal is this?
The developer/Management should remember how the property is being marketed in the first place. While I didnt buy VE because there is a Mama Shop, it is definitely an important factor to take into consideration to balance the disadvantages of this development located inside the Kembangan area.
People people, please understand the dynamics of this situation.
First, the shop space is a privately owned unit. The owner is out to maximize his profit and apparently he/she/it will be getting above market returns for his investment. 6000 monthly rental is awful lot of money. The owner may or may not be an owner of a residential unit here and frankly the owners does not care about how the shop affects our lives.
What can we do now? Nothing. The laws of Singapore protects the shop owner. This is a pro-trade country. The owner can choose to rent out to whoever as long as it is within the laws of this country. Even if he opens a massage joint, so as long as he obtains the proper license, it is also possible. The Police also will take a look at his location before giving their approval. In our case, a massage liven r may be difficult to obtain. So currently the owner got a education centre license, if something were to happen to this license, then no more enrichment class. U get the idea right? Talk to MP and this license may get revoked.
What can we do in the future? One year from now, we have formed our mgt com. The council members may propose to restrict the operating hours of the shop citing reasons as limiting disturbance to public after certain hours or restrict use of facilities quoting security of premises as reasons. We may be able to reach agreement with the owner without lawyers if the owner is understanding. If not understanding then again, arbitration is another solution. In a years time, We can also install gates and instruct guards to check all vehicles/pedestrians. Once u restrict access, you can also control the crowd better.
I don't agree with your opinion.
we are the house owner of this project, we have the right to protect ourselves. At least we need to keep our home peaceful and safely.
I hope all our resident to email/call related government department or developer to explain our requests.
If we cannot get the answer and solve the problem, we need to go legal way to protect us.
I have get reply from LTA, and now waiting for reply from hoi hup, if still no reply, maybe we need to contact other departments such as URA, CEA, CASE or whatever.
Hi Del1000, I was editing my message because saying nothing can be done now seems to be demoralizing. But I got timed out.
Sure, I wrote that we can approach all avenues of public service and make our case on security and then the type of establishment within our premises. Maybe the law must be changed to define allowable business type within a residential area.
I thank you for taking immediate action to contact LTA and HH because I am also a concerned resident like everybody in this forum.
I don't agree with your opinion.
we are the house owner of this project, we have the right to protect ourselves. At least we need to keep our home peaceful and safely.
I hope all our resident to email/call related government department or developer to explain our requests.
If we cannot get the answer and solve the problem, we need to go legal way to protect us.
I have get reply from LTA, and now waiting for reply from hoi hup, if still no reply, maybe we need to contact other departments such as URA, CEA, CASE or whatever.
I fully agreed with Dell1000. mama-shop is not first concert, but safety & privacy are.
This a private condo, not a public house or mall.
We should have right to request the current manage to ban non-resident to enter the premises (that's what security guard is supposed to do). Then the learning centre can be closed or only benefit the residents.
I don't agree with your opinion.
we are the house owner of this project, we have the right to protect ourselves. At least we need to keep our home peaceful and safely.
I hope all our resident to email/call related government department or developer to explain our requests.
If we cannot get the answer and solve the problem, we need to go legal way to protect us.
I have get reply from LTA, and now waiting for reply from hoi hup, if still no reply, maybe we need to contact other departments such as URA, CEA, CASE or whatever.
Now the problem is what we expect the thing to be is in reality not turning out.
Can a lawyer or experienced forummer please advise us
How to get HH to install a main gate for us? Can we prove that HH is negligent about our security?
Who has the right to determine the type of business run within our residence? Is it a joint rights or 100% right of the mgt com?
Please advise us because we need to set the facts right.
I fully agreed with Dell1000. mama-shop is not first concert, but safety & privacy are.
This a private condo, not a public house or mall.
We should have right to request the current manage to ban non-resident to enter the premises (that's what security guard is supposed to do). Then the learning centre can be closed or only benefit the residents.
I think this Pre-Sch, Prodigy, is going into condos to setup their branches.. the newly TOP Minton, also has a branch of this school :
http://prodigy.edu.sg/preschool/contact-us/
I believe the layout for Minton is different from Vacanza whereby the commercial lots at Minton are demarcated to restrict access of outsiders into the residential premise.
Vacanza's commercial lot is located inside the the development with full access to all blocks and facilities.
My opinions:
Your developer does not owe you all a gate (unless it has been explicitly spelled out in the brochure & S&P to you), so unlikely you can do anything. Solution is to install one after your MCST is formed.
As to the business, well, now I probably understand why your development has no gate to gate up (so that patrons can get to the business unit?).
As to what business can operate there, not sure. Can check with URA?
Now the problem is what we expect the thing to be is in reality not turning out.
Can a lawyer or experienced forummer please advise us
How to get HH to install a main gate for us? Can we prove that HH is negligent about our security?
Who has the right to determine the type of business run within our residence? Is it a joint rights or 100% right of the mgt com?
Please advise us because we need to set the facts right.
siewsphone
25-03-14, 14:46
Developer not stupid, they know how to cover their back side, check your documents properly, they always has the rights to change what they want, the devils always in a detail, your probably can find something similar in the documents such as visual representations, illustrations, photographs and renderings are intended to portray only impressions of the development and cannot be regarded as representations of facts.
My opinions:
Your developer does not owe you all a gate (unless it has been explicitly spelled out in the brochure & S&P to you), so unlikely you can do anything. Solution is to install one after your MCST is formed.
As to the business, well, now I probably understand why your development has no gate to gate up (so that patrons can get to the business unit?).
As to what business can operate there, not sure. Can check with URA?
I don't agree with your opinion.
we are the house owner of this project, we have the right to protect ourselves. At least we need to keep our home peaceful and safely.
I hope all our resident to email/call related government department or developer to explain our requests.
If we cannot get the answer and solve the problem, we need to go legal way to protect us.
I have get reply from LTA, and now waiting for reply from hoi hup, if still no reply, maybe we need to contact other departments such as URA, CEA, CASE or whatever.
below is reply from Hoi Hup;
"
We need to get the approval and clearance from different authorities for different area in order to obtain TOP. The request for the installation of the entrance barrier was not concurred by LTA during the point of submission.
"
this is the first time officially indicate the reason of the main gate.
Thanks for the update Dell.
So if the LTA is the reason, not HH's intention to omit the main gate/barrier gate, then we may be able to speak to the MP of the area. Anybody knows who is the MP in charge? We should belong to the East Coast GRC.
below is reply from Hoi Hup;
"
We need to get the approval and clearance from different authorities for different area in order to obtain TOP. The request for the installation of the entrance barrier was not concurred by LTA during the point of submission.
"
this is the first time officially indicate the reason of the main gate.
below is reply from Hoi Hup;
"
We need to get the approval and clearance from different authorities for different area in order to obtain TOP. The request for the installation of the entrance barrier was not concurred by LTA during the point of submission.
"
Spoke to the management yesterday and they claimed it is URA who did not approve the gate. So somebody is lying or both are.
below is reply from Hoi Hup;
"
We need to get the approval and clearance from different authorities for different area in order to obtain TOP. The request for the installation of the entrance barrier was not concurred by LTA during the point of submission.
"
this is the first time officially indicate the reason of the main gate.
If this is true, then perhaps they had budgeted for the gate? If so, Then at the very least, they should deposit those budgeted funds in the management account, so that if it needs to wait until we gain control in a years time, that money is there and we won't have to pay out of the normal reserve that came from our management fees!
below is reply from Hoi Hup;
"
We need to get the approval and clearance from different authorities for different area in order to obtain TOP. The request for the installation of the entrance barrier was not concurred by LTA during the point of submission.
"
this is the first time officially indicate the reason of the main gate.
I recall reading in this forum someone wrote to LTA and LTA replied this has nothing to do with them?
The banner by Prodigy Learning states that it also offers enrichment and tuition for primary and secondary school students. So who is going to control who goes in and out of the property? Seriously ridiculous! This is a PRIVATE property, so why are we allowing non residents to come in anytime they like?
This is by far the most OPEN condo entrance i've ever seen. Till now i still do not understand why the barrier is built so far down the slope and not within sight. Why isn't the guardhouse built in the middle with two barriers for IN n OUT? Imagine during rainy days, the visitors have alight and change pass?
By the way, are you guys going to push for the tap in the balcony as drawn in the plumbing plans approved by a PE?
Spoke to the management yesterday and they claimed it is URA who did not approve the gate. So somebody is lying or both are.
in the first place they should label that as "subject to approval" in the showroom model and brochure
Spoke to the management yesterday and they claimed it is URA who did not approve the gate. So somebody is lying or both are.
Thanks for this. I have sent an email to all three parties, HH, LTA and URA asking what the deal is.
I expect a response in the next day or two from LTA and URA, but HH? I am not holding my breath.
Chris
dexterchua88
26-03-14, 10:40
I have spoken to the management about the child learning centre. They are aware of it and are looking into the matter. Being a private condominium, I
don't understand how it is possible for the owner of the centre to put up advertisement and arrange an "open house" to the estate. If there is no action taken, I can foresee streams of cars going into Vacanza to drop or pick up the children by non-residents. Adding on, carpark lots are quite limited and the centre is surrounded by blocks and facilities. I am not sure what will be the outcome but I do hope that this child learning centre is not open to public and I certainly do not want to get caught in a congestion when non-residents are queuing up to pick or send their children to the centre in our private condominium. :beats-me-man:
The banner by Prodigy Learning states that it also offers enrichment and tuition for primary and secondary school students. So who is going to control who goes in and out of the property? Seriously ridiculous! This is a PRIVATE property, so why are we allowing non residents to come in anytime they like?
I'm quite certain that the owner of the commercial unit or the mgmt of the learning centre has obtained regulatory and legal advice / clearance at their end. If the residents take legal action, I'm not sure to what extent this would help. We may end up in a protracted and costly process.
In my view, we can prevent outsiders totally only if we have a gate at the entrance. We should therefore push for the installation of the main gate.
dexterchua88
26-03-14, 12:19
according to what I have heard from management is that they are aware it's a child learning centre but certainly not one that is opened to public.
Thanks for the update Dell.
So if the LTA is the reason, not HH's intention to omit the main gate/barrier gate, then we may be able to speak to the MP of the area. Anybody knows who is the MP in charge? We should belong to the East Coast GRC.
We belong to Kembangan- Chai Chee. Our MP is Mr Tan Chuan-Jin. I do help out at his MPS every week. I dont mind bringing this to his attention as well as to the Jalan Senang NC as well.
Can you guys forward me all the correspondence between the developer, LTA, URA and so on? I will forward all the information to Mr Tan next Mon if possible.
My email is
[email protected]
I have spoken to the management about the child learning centre. They are aware of it and are looking into the matter. Being a private condominium, I
don't understand how it is possible for the owner of the centre to put up advertisement and arrange an "open house" to the estate. If there is no action taken, I can foresee streams of cars going into Vacanza to drop or pick up the children by non-residents. Adding on, carpark lots are quite limited and the centre is surrounded by blocks and facilities. I am not sure what will be the outcome but I do hope that this child learning centre is not open to public and I certainly do not want to get caught in a congestion when non-residents are queuing up to pick or send their children to the centre in our private condominium. :beats-me-man:
I agree. That is so weird. Who actually decides what goes on there?
I'm quite certain that the owner of the commercial unit or the mgmt of the learning centre has obtained regulatory and legal advice / clearance at their end. If the residents take legal action, I'm not sure to what extent this would help. We may end up in a protracted and costly process.
In my view, we can prevent outsiders totally only if we have a gate at the entrance. We should therefore push for the installation of the main gate.
Ok. We can go on talking and talking. Maybe we should meet and have a formal meeting. We can request representatives from Hoi Hup to meet up with us at Vacanza to settle all these issues. :banghead: If not, its off to the media.
But we do need support from everyone here or any other residents we can get to support us.
I got a response from URA:
"We have not rejected any proposal for installation of entrance barrier/gate at Vacanza @ East.
The development proposal is based on the design and layout provided by the developer."
I'll forward to Jason.
I got a response from URA:
"We have not rejected any proposal for installation of entrance barrier/gate at Vacanza @ East.
The development proposal is based on the design and layout provided by the developer."
I'll forward to Jason.
I received exactly the same reply. Question is, does this mean there was no gate in the design submitted in the first place.
So, URA and LTA have stated they are not involved with the barrier. I chatted with the mgmt. some time back and learned that the barriers were actually installed but they were told to remove or TOP will not be given. Same as the shelter over the trellis walkway linking the car park to Blks 36/38 - they had to remove those too (although the ones at the extreme ends were not). Things are getting really murky and only HH knows the truth.
So, URA and LTA have stated they are not involved with the barrier. I chatted with the mgmt. some time back and learned that the barriers were actually installed but they were told to remove or TOP will not be given. Same as the shelter over the trellis walkway linking the car park to Blks 36/38 - they had to remove those too (although the ones at the extreme ends were not). Things are getting really murky and only HH knows the truth.
Who specifically told you all that?
He will need to be responsible for what he said if we can prove that all those are false information.
I highlighted the walkway matter to Jasmine on 8 February and she replied that it will be covered within next 2 months. This I assumed it will be done by April.
I wonder WHO told HH to remove the barrier and walkway cover.
URA and LTA have confirmed they were not involved in the barrier issue.
So, URA and LTA have stated they are not involved with the barrier. I chatted with the mgmt. some time back and learned that the barriers were actually installed but they were told to remove or TOP will not be given. Same as the shelter over the trellis walkway linking the car park to Blks 36/38 - they had to remove those too (although the ones at the extreme ends were not). Things are getting really murky and only HH knows the truth.
I wonder WHO told HH to remove the barrier and walkway cover.
URA and LTA have confirmed they were not involved in the barrier issue.
Maybe BCA?
http://www.bca.gov.sg/BuildingControlAct/building_control_act_objectives.html
Hi Jason,
Thank you for agreeing to put this security issue to the MP Tan. He is a vocal MP and would likely to act on this issue.
Have anybody write to BCA about the gate? Was it removed because the private housing owners protested to BCA?
Cheers.
Ok. We can go on talking and talking. Maybe we should meet and have a formal meeting. We can request representatives from Hoi Hup to meet up with us at Vacanza to settle all these issues. :banghead: If not, its off to the media.
But we do need support from everyone here or any other residents we can get to support us.
I got reply from HH wrt the learning centre at #01-43
//Quote
We would like to clarify that we did not grant any approval for the Child care centre to operate their business out of the precinct of Vacanza@East. We will reiterate the guideline to the tenant.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Nicolle Koo (Ms)
Property Manager
//Unquote
Hi Jason,
Thank you for agreeing to put this security issue to the MP Tan. He is a vocal MP and would likely to act on this issue.
Have anybody write to BCA about the gate? Was it removed because the private housing owners protested to BCA?
Cheers.
For the gate barrier, I received email from HH: it is baned by LTA.
I received email from LTA: it has no relationship with them.
Now I wrote email again to LTA to double confirm this, waiting for the reply.
For the gate barrier, I received email from HH: it is baned by LTA.
I received email from LTA: it has no relationship with them.
Now I wrote email again to LTA to double confirm this, waiting for the reply.
Maybe you should attach your correspondence email from LTA to HH and vice versa to let them know that no one is fooling anyone.
Once they know that you have had all parties verified, someone's got to fess up.
For the gate barrier, I received email from HH: it is baned by LTA.
I received email from LTA: it has no relationship with them.
Now I wrote email again to LTA to double confirm this, waiting for the reply.
I don't understand why the LTA would "ban" the barrier??? What does the existence of the barrier got to do with them? Anyway vacanza is at the end of the road; there is no way we will cause traffic inconveniece to others except for the few landed houses just outside our entrance.
I seriously think HH is trying to smoke us big time!!
Maybe you should attach your correspondence email from LTA to HH and vice versa to let them know that no one is fooling anyone.
Once they know that you have had all parties verified, someone's got to fess up.
yes, I have attached HH reply in the email to LTA for double confirm, hope to get more information.
We belong to Kembangan- Chai Chee. Our MP is Mr Tan Chuan-Jin. I do help out at his MPS every week. I dont mind bringing this to his attention as well as to the Jalan Senang NC as well.
Can you guys forward me all the correspondence between the developer, LTA, URA and so on? I will forward all the information to Mr Tan next Mon if possible.
My email is
[email protected]
Hi, Jasonetee, I have forward you the related email , please check your email box.
dexterchua88
27-03-14, 12:11
I got reply from HH wrt the learning centre at #01-43
//Quote
We would like to clarify that we did not grant any approval for the Child care centre to operate their business out of the precinct of Vacanza@East. We will reiterate the guideline to the tenant.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Nicolle Koo (Ms)
Property Manager
//Unquote
It will be interesting to see what will be the outcome of this centre.
Hi, Jasonetee, I have forward you the related email , please check your email box.
thanks Jason & Dell. i looked at the brochure again, indeed there is not main gate or barrier proposed. :doh:
thanks Jason & Dell. i looked at the brochure again, indeed there is not main gate or barrier proposed. :doh:
I don't think that is something that appears on any property brochure in SG. Unless there is no security like in a small development then there will be a gate. We're not looking for a gate - just a security barrier.
Anyway, I do not recall who said the barrier was removed. It was on the day I collected the key and there were two other residents in the mgmt. office chatting. At that time, I do not even know who's in the mgmt. team. Cannot hold the mgmt agent accountable - it should be the developer.
I got a response from URA:
"We have not rejected any proposal for installation of entrance barrier/gate at Vacanza @ East.
The development proposal is based on the design and layout provided by the developer."
I'll forward to Jason.
Thanks! I received your emails.
Who specifically told you all that?
He will need to be responsible for what he said if we can prove that all those are false information.
I highlighted the walkway matter to Jasmine on 8 February and she replied that it will be covered within next 2 months. This I assumed it will be done by April.
That's good to know. I was wondering whether my family and I had to get wet when we return home or go to the car park during rainy weather.
Hi, Jasonetee, I have forward you the related email , please check your email box.
Thanks! I am abit confused on who sent me what. But I will compile whatever I received and show to Mr Tan next Monday.
I don't think that is something that appears on any property brochure in SG. Unless there is no security like in a small development then there will be a gate. We're not looking for a gate - just a security barrier.
Anyway, I do not recall who said the barrier was removed. It was on the day I collected the key and there were two other residents in the mgmt. office chatting. At that time, I do not even know who's in the mgmt. team. Cannot hold the mgmt agent accountable - it should be the developer.
I was also told that the residents outside Vacanza complained to LTA/Hoi Hup about having the gantries as they would cause traffic issues outside their homes. :confused:
I was also told that the residents outside Vacanza complained to LTA/Hoi Hup about having the gantries as they would cause traffic issues outside their homes. :confused:
I heard that story too. Security barrier or no security barrier, there may still be a short line if the guards perform "stringent checks" (to quote from HH) and stop every car. In any case, based on info here, LTA has stated they are NOT involved. It boils down to HH really.
I believe the reality is those residents are sore about losing their 'private' road side car parking spaces even if they are illegal to begin with. Look at all the other condos. There are even those with barriers right next to major trunk roads and cars still line up outside the road to get in. Its a major trunk road - not a small lane deep inside sleepy Kembangan estate.
Actually, the issue is not with cars getting in because those without the transponders will not be able to go through the car park gantry.
The actual issue is with the possibility of non-residents walking into the compound without proper verification / registration.
The solution could be as simple as erecting an access card controlled gate beside the guard house where all walk-in and out, irrespective of resident or non residents must bypass.
Those with access cards will of course be able to enter but non-residents will have to be verified/ registered at the guard post before gaining access.
But then again, there could be the risk of having cars using the 'mini round-about' to drop off non-residents who will then directly access the compound.
Now how will that be managed?
As for the shuttle bus, the driver can be instructed to view each passenger's access card before allowing them to board - especially at pick up points outside. It's a small bus with limited seats. The process shouldn't take long.
What a good suggestion indeed!
See what excuse they then give? :o
If this is true, then perhaps they had budgeted for the gate? If so, Then at the very least, they should deposit those budgeted funds in the management account, so that if it needs to wait until we gain control in a years time, that money is there and we won't have to pay out of the normal reserve that came from our management fees!
How about a meet up this Sat or Sunday?
1. Jason (Jasonetee)
2.
3.
4.
Hi all!
I'm in a 2 bedder. Does anyone have the problem of both air cons in the living area being turned on/off simultaneously?I cant seem to turn just one of it off/on. Appreciate if anyone could share what its like in your unit.
Thanks
dexterchua88
27-03-14, 19:16
Same here because the air-cons are located quite close to each other. :D
Francis Woo
27-03-14, 20:22
How about a meet up this Sat or Sunday?
1. Jason (Jasonetee)
2.
3.
4.
What about the timing, morning or afternoon!:)
Hi all!
I'm in a 2 bedder. Does anyone have the problem of both air cons in the living area being turned on/off simultaneously?I cant seem to turn just one of it off/on. Appreciate if anyone could share what its like in your unit.
Thanks
One way is to off the main switch of one of the air-cond in the DB. This means that you turn on the same switch in the DB every time you wish to on that air-cond.
Its not a defect, this happens in all condos/flats when 2 air-conds are too near each other.
that's what management said about boarding the shuttle bus - must with an Access card. But in fact the driver never check - no problem for now as so few ppl take it.
for the barrier, it's a no-brain design: one at the slope near block 42 and one at the tunnel to car park. Why? Just one at the main entrance is sufficient.
What if car with a transporter run to one of the two barriers, how can it turn back?
And the one in front of MSCP-1 is even better than one before block 42.
I saw a delivery truck had to reverse back to roundabout from the MSCP-1 all the way.
Actually, the issue is not with cars getting in because those without the transponders will not be able to go through the car park gantry.
The actual issue is with the possibility of non-residents walking into the compound without proper verification / registration.
The solution could be as simple as erecting an access card controlled gate beside the guard house where all walk-in and out, irrespective of resident or non residents must bypass.
Those with access cards will of course be able to enter but non-residents will have to be verified/ registered at the guard post before gaining access.
But then again, there could be the risk of having cars using the 'mini round-about' to drop off non-residents who will then directly access the compound.
Now how will that be managed?
As for the shuttle bus, the driver can be instructed to view each passenger's access card before allowing them to board - especially at pick up points outside. It's a small bus with limited seats. The process shouldn't take long.
ya, if they don't park their car illegally on the roadside.
This is a 2 way traffic road. So queue on the left side should not block their gates.
Their complaints sounds not logical/valid.
I was also told that the residents outside Vacanza complained to LTA/Hoi Hup about having the gantries as they would cause traffic issues outside their homes. :confused:
The solution could be as simple as erecting an access card controlled gate beside the guard house where all walk-in and out, irrespective of resident or non residents must bypass.
Those with access cards will of course be able to enter but non-residents will have to be verified/ registered at the guard post before gaining access.
There already is one, but not on the guard house side, but on the other side of the entrance. It's lame though and no one will use it if there's a wide open entrance for cars!!
How about a meet up this Sat or Sunday?
1. Jason (Jasonetee)
2. Constantia (canggl)
3.
4.
I can on sun afternoon
Hi all!
I'm in a 2 bedder. Does anyone have the problem of both air cons in the living area being turned on/off simultaneously?I cant seem to turn just one of it off/on. Appreciate if anyone could share what its like in your unit.
Thanks
It's the same for me.. I "wrap" my palm around the controller sensor and point it to the unit sensor "grey colour" and tada...
There already is one, but not on the guard house side, but on the other side of the entrance. It's lame though and no one will use it if there's a wide open entrance for cars!!
ya. y the access card gate beside e huge entrance which is w/o barrier. smell a rat. of cos just walk in thru e big empty entrance right?? points to the suspicion dat barriers were initially planned at e main entrance:confused:
ya. y the access card gate beside e huge entrance which is w/o barrier. smell a rat. of cos just walk in thru e big empty entrance right?? points to the suspicion dat barriers were initially planned at e main entrance:confused:
EXACTLY! Something happened but HH isn't saying .... but beat about the bush instead.
I can on sun afternoon
Let's do Sunday afternoon at 1pm?
There already is one, but not on the guard house side, but on the other side of the entrance. It's lame though and no one will use it if there's a wide open entrance for cars!!
Really?? That's just poor design which renders the gate redundant.
Since the harware is already available, will the removal and installation of the gate be expensive?
The gate can be relocated next to the guard post and the car park barrier can be relocated to the main entrance.
If we are not getting any cooperation from the authorities or HH and the cost of relocating these items are relatively small, let's just do it ourselves when we take over in a year's time.
Really?? That's just poor design which renders the gate redundant.
Since the harware is already available, will the removal and installation of the gate be expensive?
The gate can be relocated next to the guard post and the car park barrier can be relocated to the main entrance.
If we are not getting any cooperation from the authorities or HH and the cost of relocating these items are relatively small, let's just do it ourselves when we take over in a year's time.
Afterall, perspectives differs. If they could build shelter for Blk 36 and 38 residents after handing over the keys, surely something could be worked out for the gate and not wait for a year. Having said, IMO, we should work something to what Jason had proposed. Rather than posting here lamenting on the design flaws here and there, it is kinda more concrete to meet up and talk about what we residents really want.
For the meet up on Sun, I do not think we will have the numbers to talk something concrete and furthermore, not all residents access this forum. (My guess on the rough feel of unique username) If we could, I suggest, forecast a date some 2 - 3 weeks later, and settle some kind of notice of meet-up for residents to be informed. We could run up more numbers to lend weight to our "demands". Otherwise, putting myself in their shoes, everyone has an opinion and more often than not, they differs. Who should they satisfy? If they are not the majority, I will put their request on hold first..
Afterall, perspectives differs. If they could build shelter for Blk 36 and 38 residents after handing over the keys, surely something could be worked out for the gate and not wait for a year. Having said, IMO, we should work something to what Jason had proposed. Rather than posting here lamenting on the design flaws here and there, it is kinda more concrete to meet up and talk about what we residents really want.
For the meet up on Sun, I do not think we will have the numbers to talk something concrete and furthermore, not all residents access this forum. (My guess on the rough feel of unique username) If we could, I suggest, forecast a date some 2 - 3 weeks later, and settle some kind of notice of meet-up for residents to be informed. We could run up more numbers to lend weight to our "demands". Otherwise, putting myself in their shoes, everyone has an opinion and more often than not, they differs. Who should they satisfy? If they are not the majority, I will put their request on hold first..
Yupz! I will pm my contact number to those who list down their names.
There already is one, but not on the guard house side, but on the other side of the entrance. It's lame though and no one will use it if there's a wide open entrance for cars!!
Yeap. The pedestrian gate beside the wide open entrance really look weird.
Looks really funny and cute if anyone taps and walk through when there is free access lobang on the left.
Yupz! I will pm my contact number to those who list down their names.
Pls include me.
However, I do not think we should wait for a year. HH has to resolve this security issue. There could be false finger-pointing too and its important to strike while the iron is hot.
Pls include me.
However, I do not think we should wait for a year. HH has to resolve this security issue. There could be false finger-pointing too and its important to strike while the iron is hot.
Noted! Thanks!
I can be sure that the barrier was previously installed and removed, although the real reason is sort of unknown to the residents, I still believe it's due to the transponder of the cars which I heard, and I agreed also that the removal of the system is costly so we should demand an answer for HH. We need the security for the condo.
I'd like to join you but I am only available after 2.00pm.
Let's do Sunday afternoon at 1pm?
FYI everyone, the child care is supposed to have it's "open house" today....
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FYI everyone, the child care is supposed to have it's "open house" today....
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Hmm ......if this learning centre really opens up to the public, this place is gonna be like a HDB with a swimming pool.
The toilet and sauna beside the centre will become a public toilet.
Who can stop the students or parents from using the other facilities?
The swimming pool, the park, the playground.
Should we be paying a lower maintenance fee since everything is now going to be shared with the public and we just cannot stop it.
Definitely, the centre cannot survive on just Vacanza Residential Customers.
Getting more and more upset.
I can be sure that the barrier was previously installed and removed, although the real reason is sort of unknown to the residents, I still believe it's due to the transponder of the cars which I heard, and I agreed also that the removal of the system is costly so we should demand an answer for HH. We need the security for the condo.
There are so many versions give.
LTA rejected, Landed Owners complaint, URA, Transponder.
I am not sure but someone did mention that gate is not installed for a reason.
To welcome business from outside for the Commercial Unit.
The truth, only HH knows.
dexterchua88
29-03-14, 10:04
Hmm ......if this learning centre really opens up to the public, this place is gonna be like a HDB with a swimming pool.
The toilet and sauna beside the centre will become a public toilet.
Who can stop the students or parents from using the other facilities?
The swimming pool, the park, the playground.
Should we be paying a lower maintenance fee since everything is now going to be shared with the public and we just cannot stop it.
Definitely, the centre cannot survive on just Vacanza Residential Customers.
Getting more and more upset.
In the first place, this is a private condominium. Being private, it's not to be opened to public. I hope the management will make it clear to the child centre. I do not wish to encounter congestion when I am going to work or coming home and have to face non-residents driving in to pick or drop their children.
FYI everyone, the child care is supposed to have it's "open house" today....
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sorry my mistake, i mean tomorrow, sunday.
I am not sure if you all realised.
There is a warning letter pasted by our Management dated 26 March 2014 on every block's life lobby to threaten confiscating our full $1000 deposit placed for renovation and move-in/out because they found leftovers/remains by some inconsiderate residents/contractors/subcontractors.
I wonder what's everyone opinion about that.
They seem to be more concerned on protecting the external areas to obtain their statutory completion status rather than protecting the residents.
Furthermore, I wrote an email to Patrick about the child care problem on 24 March 2014 (Monday), and it has been over 5 business days but there is no response to me when the 'OPEN HOUSE' event is happening tomorrow. Really saddens me that our Management team is not doing their job to protect the residents and choose to ignore instead! :(
I saw that letter in Management office this Wed.
For the littering, every resident should be responsible for the cleanness in the public area.
For the learning centre, I wrote to Nicolle and Patrick and received reply from Nicolle. You can see my earlier post.
I am not sure if you all realised.
There is a warning letter pasted by our Management dated 26 March 2014 on every block's life lobby to threaten confiscating our full $1000 deposit placed for renovation and move-in/out because they found leftovers/remains by some inconsiderate residents/contractors/subcontractors.
I wonder what's everyone opinion about that.
They seem to be more concerned on protecting the external areas to obtain their statutory completion status rather than protecting the residents.
Furthermore, I wrote an email to Patrick about the child care problem on 24 March 2014 (Monday), and it has been over 5 business days but there is no response to me when the 'OPEN HOUSE' event is happening tomorrow. Really saddens me that our Management team is not doing their job to protect the residents and choose to ignore instead! :(
So tomorrow will be a good time to be meeting. We can let our feelings be known to the tenant and they should think twice about letting outsiders use our facilities. Hopefully more of us can make it tomorrow.
FYI everyone, the child care is supposed to have it's "open house" today....
Someone from the management office (didn't get his name though) approached me at the carpark. He's said he just got to know last night that the learning centre is not approved. I'm not sure what this means. Let's see if the open house will still happen tomorrow.
I saw that letter in Management office this Wed.
For the littering, every resident should be responsible for the cleanness in the public area.
For the learning centre, I wrote to Nicolle and Patrick and received reply from Nicolle. You can see my earlier post.
Just came back from Vacanza after meeting some contractors. Saw the door of the learning centre open. Took a peak and saw that it was almost fully done up. Managed to talk to the operators and confirmed they are targeting non - residents as well. Can't help to have a lingering feeling that the reason for the demise of our main gantries are due to this learning centre.
Someone from the management office (didn't get his name though) approached me at the carpark. He's said he just got to know last night that the learning centre is not approved. I'm not sure what this means. Let's see if the open house will still happen tomorrow.
Erm.. They are putting up the decorations and balloons as I am typing this now.
For those who are concerned about the learning centre and the main gantry issues but couldn't make it for the meet up tomorrow, can also pm me your contacts and details so we can add you in the list of concerned residents. Adds weight to our request to Hoi Hup if we can get the numbers.
Someone from the management office (didn't get his name though) approached me at the carpark. He's said he just got to know last night that the learning centre is not approved. I'm not sure what this means. Let's see if the open house will still happen tomorrow.
The management is so passive on this. If they know it is not approved, why aren't they stopping the open house tomorrow. Instead of putting warning about litter at lift lobby, they should be putting warning letter at the learning center that without approval the open house cannot proceed.
So sick of this development with all the defects, gate issue and now this.
I'll try to make it tomorrow.
dexterchua88
29-03-14, 19:38
The guards will have to be informed not to allow non-residents to enter.
The guards will have to be informed not to allow non-residents to enter.
All my contractors went in today without being stopped at all. Now machiam open house lor.
All my contractors went in today without being stopped at all. Now machiam open house lor.
Shouldn't they start keeping the gantries closed? I went today and they were wide open.
I saw that letter in Management office this Wed.
For the littering, every resident should be responsible for the cleanness in the public area.
For the learning centre, I wrote to Nicolle and Patrick and received reply from Nicolle. You can see my earlier post.
Is it warning or it's already officiated for the forfeit of the $1000 we paid for?
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