Flood Prone Condos

[sfwoo]

Gentle Reflections and Tessarina in Bukit Timah had their basement carparks filled with waters that comes once in fifty years.

For Tessarina, time flies, and "fifty years" went by in less than 2 human years.

Once a car is totally submerged, probably need to scrap. Unless one wants to strip the car to its carcass, and rebuild...may not be worth it. Insurance will probably declare "Act of God". Condo management will point to sign board telling motorists they park "at own risk".

Perhaps, we shud keep track of those condos with history of flooding, and allow us to follow old adage of CAVEAT EMPTOR.

[azeoprop]

These are the PUB identified flood prone low lying areas in Singapore:

i) Chinatown (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);)/ City area
(Mosque Street (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);), Pagoda Street, Temple Street, Trengganu Street, Upper Pickering Street (between South Bridge (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);) Road and New Bridge Road), South Bridge Road, Upper Hokien Street (between South Bridge Road and New Bridge Road), Chulia Street (beside UOB Plaza), Circular Road and McCallum Street / Boon Tat Link.
ii) Tanjong Katong area
(Dakota Crescent, Meyer Place, Meyer Road, Dunman Road, Fort Road, Rose Lane and Stadium Road)
iii) Geylang area
(Guillemard Road (between Lor 26 to 32 Geylang), Lor 4 to Lor 22, Geylang, Lor 101 to 106, Changi (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);) Road and Langsat Road)
iv) Area off Jalan Besar (between Weld Road and Kitchener Road)
v) Lorong Buangkok

[sfwoo]

Cluny Court?
Telok Kurau?
Opera Estate?

All these place kena this time round also.

[Komo]

Perhaps areas near reservoirs are safe from floods.

[sfwoo]

Perhaps areas near reservoirs are safe from floods.

HAHAHA!
How to explain floods in Thomson area?
Got MacRitchie and Pierce next door, still flood!

[Komo]

HAHAHA!
How to explain floods in Thomson area?
Got MacRitchie and Pierce next door, still flood!

That true. But perhaps areas nearer are ok. eg I suppose the waterfront series fronting the bedok reservoirs should be quite safe. Usually areas immediately surrounding reservoirs have very large drainage, some could even run through the development.

[proud owner]

That true. But perhaps areas nearer are ok. eg I suppose the waterfront series fronting the bedok reservoirs should be quite safe. Usually areas immediately surrounding reservoirs have very large drainage, some could even run through the development.


all the condos on Pasir panjang hill .. pepys hill , kent ridge mid hill all safe


notice the flood areas are central and east ... ?

[azeoprop]

Perhaps areas near reservoirs are safe from floods.

In Dec 2006, after days of heavy rain, the thomson nurseries were badly flooded by surging waters from MacRitchie Reservoir.

http://www.wildsingapore.com/news/20061112/061220-1.htm#to1

[azeoprop]

Freak weather do happen, in 2001, a typhoon hit Johor and affected Singapore as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_Storm_Vamei

...but orchard road was not flooded...:beats-me-man:

[Komo]

Come to think of it....projects near reservoirs need to "worry" of possibility of surging water from the reservoir, I can also imagine that the ground could be softer, possibly from the water seeping through the ground from reservoir....are projects near reservoirs required to design and build with such risks considered?

[Douk]

Cluny Court?
Telok Kurau?
Opera Estate?

All these place kena this time round also.

Anyone know which lorong in TK floods?

[Squall8888]

Saying it is act of god is an insult to god. This is clear cut gross negligence. They get some idiot foreign workers who sweep litters into drains - so long nobody sees it, his job is done. And of course, no checks and balances from relevant departments - the ultimate failure I feel. They are the managers but they failed to supervise.

If everything can be attributed to god, there shouldn't be insurance company around. And no need to court. Because everything is act of god. What kind of nonsense is that. If a tree falls during heavy rain, it is the lack of maintenance. It is a joke to see highly educated people sprouting nonsense.





Gentle Reflections and Tessarina in Bukit Timah had their basement carparks filled with waters that comes once in fifty years.

For Tessarina, time flies, and "fifty years" went by in less than 2 human years.

Once a car is totally submerged, probably need to scrap. Unless one wants to strip the car to its carcass, and rebuild...may not be worth it. Insurance will probably declare "Act of God". Condo management will point to sign board telling motorists they park "at own risk".

Perhaps, we shud keep track of those condos with history of flooding, and allow us to follow old adage of CAVEAT EMPTOR.

[mezo]

All the flooded areas in photo :

http://www.asiaone.com/static/multimedia/gallery/100717_flood/

[august]

opera estate
Jalan Ma'mor (balestier)
some landed hses around Coronation and King's rd
thomson rd (shop houses)
changi rd (shop houses)
cluny court
the tessarina
gentle reflections (bt timah)
norma terrace (bedok)


p.s. an owner of a prosche car (king's rd) was furious.. car just repaired in the last flood, now kena again

[azeoprop]

opera estate
Jalan Ma'mor (balestier)
some landed hses around Coronation and King's rd
thomson rd (shop houses)
changi rd (shop houses)
cluny court
the tessarina
gentle reflections (bt timah)
norma terrace (bedok)


p.s. an owner of a prosche car (king's rd) was furious.. car just repaired in the last flood, now kena again

He should buy the duck tour amphibious vehicle instead haa haa...prosche is useless in singapore. :doh:

[kane]

same as those tessarina owners.

[focus]

These are the PUB identified flood prone low lying areas in Singapore:

i) Chinatown (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;)/ City area
(Mosque Street (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;), Pagoda Street, Temple Street, Trengganu Street, Upper Pickering Street (between South Bridge (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;) Road and New Bridge Road), South Bridge Road, Upper Hokien Street (between South Bridge Road and New Bridge Road), Chulia Street (beside UOB Plaza), Circular Road and McCallum Street / Boon Tat Link.
ii) Tanjong Katong area
(Dakota Crescent, Meyer Place, Meyer Road, Dunman Road, Fort Road, Rose Lane and Stadium Road)
iii) Geylang area
(Guillemard Road (between Lor 26 to 32 Geylang), Lor 4 to Lor 22, Geylang, Lor 101 to 106, Changi (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;) Road and Langsat Road)
iv) Area off Jalan Besar (between Weld Road and Kitchener Road)
v) Lorong Buangkok

Don't scare me leh.. Dakota Crescent got flood??
These 2 recent floods have been nearer to the old airport road and further down dakota mrt.. Think Dakota Crescent road area don't have...

Wahlau. hope PUB is wrong as they have always been :p

[devilplate]

Don't scare me leh.. Dakota Crescent got flood??
These 2 recent floods have been nearer to the old airport road and further down dakota mrt.. Think Dakota Crescent road area don't have...

Wahlau. hope PUB is wrong as they have always been :p

jump ship to WB lor...multi storey carpark...:D

[Wild Falcon]

Add to list:-

opera estate
Jalan Ma'mor (balestier)
some landed hses around Coronation and King's rd
thomson rd (shop houses)
changi rd (shop houses)
cluny court
the tessarina (Bukit Timah)
gentle reflections (bt timah)
norma terrace (bedok)
Goodman Road landed (Meyer)
Tanjong Katong landed
Joo Chiat
Telok Kurau

Safe areas are those on high ground lor, like Telok Blangah Hill, Astrid Hill, Hillview etc.

[focus]

jump ship to WB lor...multi storey carpark...:D



I just did a google and found Dakota Crescent flood last year but it never reached the rented flats..
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/yournews/video.php?posterid=523&vidid=704

So .. if it reach the grass patch, WB and DR all ground floor units Gone..

But then.. i remember that DR itself is on higher grounds coz I walked by the footpath along the canal, the ground level of DR is around my shoulder level.

Dunno how.. must stay to know :p

[devilplate]

I just did a google and found Dakota Crescent flood last year but it never reached the rented flats..
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/yournews/video.php?posterid=523&vidid=704

So .. if it reach the grass patch, WB and DR all ground floor units Gone..

But then.. i remember that DR itself is on higher grounds coz I walked by the footpath along the canal, the ground level of DR is around my shoulder level.

Dunno how.. must stay to know :p

u r right...footpath along canal lower by about 1m...so even canal flooded...ground flr units quite safe...only worry is ur precious cars in basement carpark

[Wild Falcon]

I think if designed well, basement carpark should be ok. So many basement carparks but only Tessarina and one other condo kena jialat jialat.

[august]

I just did a google and found Dakota Crescent flood last year but it never reached the rented flats..
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/yournews/video.php?posterid=523&vidid=704

So .. if it reach the grass patch, WB and DR all ground floor units Gone..

But then.. i remember that DR itself is on higher grounds coz I walked by the footpath along the canal, the ground level of DR is around my shoulder level.

Dunno how.. must stay to know :p

aiyo u are on high floor u scared wat? :D

[focus]

u r right...footpath along canal lower by about 1m...so even canal flooded...ground flr units quite safe...only worry is ur precious cars in basement carpark

Haha.. Hopefully the architect got the sense not to have any ventillation vents facing the river.. My cars not precious.. the condo more precious... Imagine the price fall if everyone knows Dakota Crescent condos are like Tessarina...

[focus]

aiyo u are on high floor u scared wat? :D
Still ..it is inside my area mah.. still mentally disturbing when you sleep at night and hear heavy downpour.. donno must wake up to shift cars or not.. keke

Devilplate happy that he got multistorey carpark.. :(

大雨大雨，大雨不愁
我有multi-storey carpark, 你有大头。。 :p

[teddybear]

Correction - It should be "Upper Thomson Road (shop houses)". :D


Add to list:-

opera estate
Jalan Ma'mor (balestier)
some landed hses around Coronation and King's rd
thomson rd (shop houses)
changi rd (shop houses)
cluny court
the tessarina (Bukit Timah)
gentle reflections (bt timah)
norma terrace (bedok)
Goodman Road landed (Meyer)
Tanjong Katong landed
Joo Chiat
Telok Kurau

Safe areas are those on high ground lor, like Telok Blangah Hill, Astrid Hill, Hillview etc.

[maisonjai]

http://motoring.asiaone.com/Motoring/News/Story/A1Story20070523-8123.html
i was also in the middle of this flood outside Delta Hse, few cars mati trying to cheong thru the knee high depth towards RV.

here's a list
http://www.pub.gov.sg/products/drainage/Pages/FloodList.aspx?Print2=yes

seems like Waterfront living everywhere.

[devilplate]

http://motoring.asiaone.com/Motoring/News/Story/A1Story20070523-8123.html
i was also in the middle of this flood outside Delta Hse, few cars mati trying to cheong thru the knee high depth towards RV.

here's a list
http://www.pub.gov.sg/products/drainage/Pages/FloodList.aspx?Print2=yes

seems like Waterfront living everywhere.

based on the list...cannot see dakota crescent...meaning we r safe?:D

[DC33_2008]

Unless the water breaks its bank which will be really serious.

[peterng8]

u r right...footpath along canal lower by about 1m...so even canal flooded...ground flr units quite safe...only worry is ur precious cars in basement carpark

MSP still has its advantage:D ...can sleep soundly even there is a storm outside...:sleep:

[maisonjai]

based on the list...cannot see dakota crescent...meaning we r safe?:D

focus more relieved after reading the list ;) .

if flood i think mrt station 1st to kena, i believed they must have done something to drainage.

Remember showflat got a kayak? Is that a hint :D from UOL..haha. Should we buy 1, u never know when u need it. Should be fun rowing to MB garden.

[devilplate]

focus more relieved after reading the list ;) .

if flood i think mrt station 1st to kena, i believed they must have done something to drainage.

Remember showflat got a kayak? Is that a hint :D from UOL..haha. Should we buy 1, u never know when u need it. Should be fun rowing to MB garden.

not bad leh...den really become true waterfront living:D

[maisonjai]

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_554813.html
this photo kinda cute but pity the owner.

[devilplate]

but really duno who's the culprit...

global warming? MRT contruction? marina barrage?:beats-me-man:

[sfwoo]

but really duno who's the culprit...

global warming? MRT contruction? marina barrage?:beats-me-man:

The most recent flood, newspapers blame Typhoon...But of course, not everybody believes what they read.

[smallant]

if true.... the flood area seems to be expanding.... But what to do.... the drains is expensive.. will take time to build.. got to be realistic lah...

cannot be every where also build flood canals rite ? You want canals or condos ? The ans is obvious rite ! Already got marina barriage to catch all those water and release else lagi more floods.. you guys should be thankful !

As to those photos.. the same photos are being circulated leh.. So may not be fair.. All pt to the same old usual place lah..

Let's not rush to conclusion and pre judge.. Let the relevant authoriities do their job lah.... And sure somewhere along the drains might be more chokes.. SO you must also do yr part.. Dun anyhow throw rubbish...

[august]

if true.... the flood area seems to be expanding.... But what to do.... the drains is expensive.. will take time to build.. got to be realistic lah...

cannot be every where also build flood canals rite ? You want canals or condos ? The ans is obvious rite ! Already got marina barriage to catch all those water and release else lagi more floods.. you guys should be thankful !

As to those photos.. the same photos are being circulated leh.. So may not be fair.. All pt to the same old usual place lah..

Let's not rush to conclusion and pre judge.. Let the relevant authoriities do their job lah.... And sure somewhere along the drains might be more chokes.. SO you must also do yr part.. Dun anyhow throw rubbish...

the barrage may very well be part of the problem instead of solution ~

[devilplate]

cud be ah neh cleaners sweep rubbish into the drain?:D

[focus]

not bad leh...den really become true waterfront living:D

Wa ... like that .. mai tu liao..
we start company to build kayak berths along WB and DR...

Sentosa and Keppel got Yatch Berth..
We Got KAYAK! :)

[maisonjai]

Ya Kun Kayak berth? Riverside Teh tarik drink all u can.

[smallant]

The Marina barrage is the vision for our water lah.. Without it.. may not have enough clean water to drink leh... Still too early to tell... all the gates open.. the water should flow.. if water no flow out.. means u singaporeans throwing too much rubbish in the drains to choke it ..

[urban]

The Marina barrage is the vision for our water lah.. Without it.. may not have enough clean water to drink leh... Still too early to tell... all the gates open.. the water should flow.. if water no flow out.. means u singaporeans throwing too much rubbish in the drains to choke it ..

1 in 4 residents is a foreigner. Do not blame Singaporeans for all that is nasty in Singapore.

[august]

1 in 4 residents is a foreigner. Do not blame Singaporeans for all that is nasty in Singapore.
more like 1 in 3 now...

[devilplate]

more like 1 in 3 now...

ya lor..very scary...i was in a lift and tot all singaporeans until they start to tok

cant really tell nowadays

[cashrich]

beware more to come in the tradditional rainy season..

good luck Singapore!... Flood Flood Flood at?

[focus]

more like 1 in 3 now...

More like 1 in 2 I feel if you include the Malaysians.

Last time it was mainly malaysians working here but we don't feel pressured since we are culturally similar.

But nowadays, I go food court, I go shopping mall, half the time I will be served by a foreigner.


Nothing against foreigners. It's more of acclimatizing myself to the new environment. We are in a transient to a global cosmo city.. my PM Lee says.

I would have gone to taiwan or China or Australia to live if not for my aged parents. Why feel like a foreigner in your own country? Might as well be a REAL foreigner in taiwan or China where I can live a moderately luxurious lifestyle. :P

[firehorse]

......
I would have gone to taiwan or China or Australia to live if not for my aged parents. Why feel like a foreigner in your own country? Might as well be a REAL foreigner in taiwan or China where I can live a moderately luxurious lifestyle. :P

Then the residents in Taiwan or China or Australia will say the same thing about you. Some Australian is already resenting immigrants.

[Komo]

ya lor..very scary...i was in a lift and tot all singaporeans until they start to tok

cant really tell nowadays
Mrt even more scary...always surrounded by foreigners. Really thought I'm in a foreign country. really feel relief or a little sense of home when I saw or heard a singaporean.

[focus]

Then the residents in Taiwan or China or Australia will say the same thing about you. Some Australian is already resenting immigrants.

True :) But at least I am really a foreigner in a foreign land. Now I am a foreigner in my native land.. :p

Anyway, I know what you mean, I've studied in Australia (Queensland) and some of the current affairs programme debate about foreigners. That's why the govt came up with more strigent rules like ensuring you need to pass your English and think now you have to pass test on Cultural/History of Australia.

[smallant]

aiya.. whether 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 are FTs.. we still majority... still need to set gd examples.. See rubbish.. pick up mah.. else if every drain got choked..
then flooding .. we suffer leh..
Now we got a slew of measures to prevent flooding,, see... our efficiency.. :) am sure we can overcomes these small floods .. Compared to China... ours are small... and nothing leh ...:D

[Komo]

aiya.. whether 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 are FTs.. we still majority... still need to set gd examples.. See rubbish.. pick up mah.. else if every drain got choked..
then flooding .. we suffer leh..
Now we got a slew of measures to prevent flooding,, see... our efficiency.. :) am sure we can overcomes these small floods .. Compared to China... ours are small... and nothing leh ...:D
we so worried because affect property prices leh:D

[proud owner]

aiya.. whether 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 are FTs.. we still majority... still need to set gd examples.. See rubbish.. pick up mah.. else if every drain got choked..
then flooding .. we suffer leh..
Now we got a slew of measures to prevent flooding,, see... our efficiency.. :) am sure we can overcomes these small floods .. Compared to China... ours are small... and nothing leh ...:D


smallant .. you have a very commendable attitude ...

precisely becos singapore is so small ... everything should be mush much easier to tackle .. and yet .. we have just as much problems ..

so do they really deserve 1 mio salary ?

[Komo]

did singapore just earn another world record...the most flooded country? (how about measuring in terms of % flooded area of country land size?) or .... perhaps yet another world record...the most number of fallen trees due to rain!

[smallant]

Hey Proud Owner .... given spore is small.. it is complex leh... 3 times flooding within a span of 1 mth and we do indeed have a lot of excuses of wat could have caused it Typhoons, rubbish choke, tidal, irresponsible rubbish throwers, insufficient capacity etc but no idea of the exact cause of the moving flood.. Seems to me, a lot of previously new unfloodable areas are coming onto the flooding radar. I reckon that tis is worth more than a million dollar problem.. :)

[azeoprop]

I think we should show more concern on global warming and its effects. Few years down the road, what is known as freak weather now will be much more common, are we ready for that? :2cents:

[maisonjai]

I think we should show more concern on global warming and its effects. Few years down the road, what is known as freak weather now will be much more common, are we ready for that? :2cents:

indonesians will feel more at home here, just like jakarta.:cool:

[smallant]

Sigh,,,,, No amt of engineering can stop that kinda of floods. Act of God.. :scared-4:

[devilplate]

MM lee mentioned build super big canal etc goto sacrifice for roads etc wor...always a trade-off on land usage.

but there must be some other underlying reasons....3rd flash floods oredi!

i remember last time flood due to continuous rain for few days....nvr heard of few hrs of rain causing flood leh!:scared-3:

[taggy]

MM lee mentioned build super big canal etc goto sacrifice for roads etc wor...always a trade-off on land usage.

but there must be some other underlying reasons....3rd flash floods oredi!

i remember last time flood due to continuous rain for few days....nvr heard of few hrs of rain causing flood leh!:scared-3:

this morning got heavy rain again... anyone hear any flood news ? ;)

[maisonjai]

MM lee mentioned build super big canal etc goto sacrifice for roads etc wor...always a trade-off on land usage.

but there must be some other underlying reasons....3rd flash floods oredi!

i remember last time flood due to continuous rain for few days....nvr heard of few hrs of rain causing flood leh!:scared-3:

Singapore, May 30, 2008 - (ACN Newswire) - Singapore will play host to more than 20 international high-level meetings, forums, award ceremonies and workshops on the sidelines of Singapore International Water Week, the global event on water solutions which will be held here from 23 to 27 June 2008.

should have flood that week, ho sey liao cos we got no solution & water leaders around the world will know that we have more than enough water. Anyway even if it's the barrage, no one will admit it, it's our showcase to the world. Barrage is the act of men against the act of God. haha :tsk-tsk: Barrage is good idea, design something wrong? No one really knows

[august]

Sigh,,,,, No amt of engineering can stop that kinda of floods. Act of God.. :scared-4:

the fella nowadays no need to pay him any attention

[smallant]

After the floods... the mozzies will flourish.... If prolong floods.. someone mention about foundation issues... Tis is scary man...
:scared-1:
Since act of god.. better pray..

[proud owner]

the fella nowadays no need to pay him any attention



he is like GOD to many singaporeans ...

he was the PM for many many yrs with low salary ..

now no more PM .. hence cho cho cabinet to create SM , MM post for him ... let him make some millions lor ...


since he is God to many .. and flood is act of God , according to God ..

so how ?

[devilplate]

he is like GOD to many singaporeans ...

he was the PM for many many yrs with low salary ..

now no more PM .. hence cho cho cabinet to create SM , MM post for him ... let him make some millions lor ...


since he is God to many .. and flood is act of God , according to God ..

so how ?

tats another reason y u decide to migrate to NY? hehe

[august]

tats another reason y u decide to migrate to NY? hehe
smart to have an exit option ~

[smallant]

Chiam... Now even home insurance and car insurance for these flood proned areas going UP !

Every oppty to milk the cows ! :banghead:

[proud owner]

Chiam... Now even home insurance and car insurance for these flood proned areas going UP !

Every oppty to milk the cows ! :banghead:


cantonese says ..

chan lei siong, lor lei mang

'while you are injured, take your life'

[smallant]

aiya... tis is reasonable .. they making losses.. if everyone bankrupt.. no one insurance ?? how then ... :sleep: you got no choice rite ?? if every one uses the same excuses and charge the same rate ?